Quality PVC pipes remove gutter water from problem area
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2023
- This back yard was holding water with no clear solution. We piped the gutter water to the street, taking that water off the back to help alleviate the standing water.
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Major props for hand digging that trench. I feel like many crews wouldn't have exercised the kind of professional judgment that you guys do and it would have been a major headache for the homeowners when they hit those lines. Great job as always.
The guys did a great job with this one!
I really enjoy your 'complete' videos, Shawn. Getting to see the system in operation is the cherry on top!
Best part of the videos imo
Same. I love the rain footage!
I don’t think the pvc looks that bad at the back, it actually matches the windows and the gutters👍🏻
+1
Function over form all day every day especially when water is involved.
I enjoy watching and listening to The three of you solve problems and work together to finish each job.
Thank you Ken! 👍
Shaun and Team have great wisdom digging that last stretch to the road. Imagine the carnage if yal had just started trenching 😂😂. Great work.
We would have taken out the internet right away and the client would not have been happy.
My suggestion is to tell them to remove the leaf guard system they are nothing but trouble. I do the same work as you do and run into this all the time. Leaf guards do such a great job of keeping the leafs out a lot of times they keep the water out especially in a downpour.
I agree Brett. The leaf guards need to be cleaned off a couple times a year to keep them flowing.
Thanks for the video, I'm on flood watch in Davenport Iowa 🛶🧱
I hope you don't get any flooding around your place Charles!
I always learn something new from your videos, Shawn. In this case, putting two downspouts on a long gutter to help take care of the capacity. That will help with my over-burdened gutters which can't always manage big downpours. Thanks! 👍👍
My gutter guy explains it using a funnel as an example. No matter how large the funnel is, the limiting factor is the outlet of the funnel being smaller. Add more outlets (downspouts) to create multiple points of exit. I assume gutter contractors don't do this to save money in a way that no one notices.
Good job (as always). Figures that the roof transfer would remain a problem. Too much "fast moving" water for those narrow gutters. The gutterguards aren't helping here either.
In rainy areas, architects really need to consider roof design.
@@lukeknowles5700 and drainage
I think the pipe looks good! They can do some nice landscaping with low bushes.
Hi Shaun, that gutter guard is the problem. Hardly any holes in it to let the rain water through, so it acts like ski jump and water doesn’t stop at the gutter and goes straight over the edge. Just remove the gutter guard all together as any leaves and debris will go down the down pipe and all the way to the street. With PVC pipe there is nothing to stop or snag it. Cheers Steve from Australia
I thought about that too. Perhaps we could remove that last panel of gutter guard next to the downspout?
@@GCFD that gutter guard does not allow the water to get through it quick enough. If it is just steady light rain it would be ok but anything any heavier then the ski jump comes into effect. My house in Australia has never had any form of gutter guard for 40 odd years when it was built and we have 4inch PVC pipe and never any blockages.
@@GCFD I'd definitely follow up with the homeowner to see if water skips over that gutter when it's raining heavily. We had lots of problems on a similar steep roof pitch, and had to remove the gutterguard to allow water to land in the gutter.
I thought that as well but I would move the down pipe from offloading on the roof and put it straight into the second down pipe
Either leave old style cover off, replace with newer stainless steel mesh covers ( they stop the water from flowing over), or upgrade to 6” gutters on that bottom row.
You should invest in a sod cutter. You could cut the sod off first and then neatly lay it back down at the end saving time and money on grass seed and straw. Plus it would look a lot nicer.
Two videos in one day?! Bull, you're firing on all cylinders!
Hahah I have a few more to make when I can get the time. 👍
Another great video...kudos to a great crew you have there!!
Thank you Doc!
Great video I’m in the process of putting some pvc drainage in now. The hand digging is really underestimated until you do it
For sure! Hand digging is a lot of work! Best of luck with your project. 👍
I thought that pipe would look bad on the house like that but it actually looks fine.
I think so too Shawn. Clients usually love the pipe simply because the problem is solved.
Great job Shawn. I know they will enjoy their home better now.
Thank you Brent!
Excellent, Yet another Resume Spiff, Modding gutters, very slick, The Pizza ( Added Qty Count haha ) Hand digging FTW & good call...Not really w the white trim around the house it technically blends in where it is.
Thank you!
That's why your company is the best. Great call on the hand digging!
Thank you! The guys really called it on this one.
I’m becoming more convinced with your camera work we can expect Gate City Foundation: The Movie
Haha that's hilarious!
Edit: I need a script 👍
Awesome job fellas! Good call on the hand trenching - well done!
Thank you Sarah!
Another great job! Good call on the hand trenching. Another example of not enough downspouts. I was wondering about adding dirt at the back and low and behold you talked about that right after I had the thought.
Nice Steve! that would be the phase 2 on this job if the water is still a problem.
I'd like to suggest that when you dig that you have a slope'er guy & a dig guy. The slope guy would be looking toward the home & digging at the ideal low-slope. A regular shovel dig can fit an 8 inch pipe so the hand-dug quotes might have a price that allows for larger pipe. 8-inch pipe can almost be level where in my city they use a concrete-CB to then run triple 4-inch pipes through the curb that are 2ft apart (triple 4 through the curb is the city's limit).
We will be installing some 8" PVC at Carson's new garage so that will be interesting.
You say the pipe looks bad above ground. I see a professional quality well job done . The installation looks great.
Thank you Scott! Most homeowners agree that the pipes are a thing of beauty for solving their problems.
Beautiful job and thrilling rain footage ! Thanks Shawn for another great video. Your cinematography is stunning!
Thank you! I've come a long way with the filming aspect. I'm a biologist after all.
Nice looking install at the house.
Thank you David 👍
Just a bit of downspout from the bottom of the existing upper downspout to through the leaf guard would solve that problem.
I wasn't sure that the gutter was overflowing as much as water going across that leaf guard without making it through it.
Great point! 👍
Superb method of core drilling!
Thank you Tony! It saves so much effort trying to place pressure on the core drill. This would typically take over an hour.
Great video, seen so many landscapers in my area installing drains systems that have no fall and basin boxes that end up holding water.
I see it all the time too! I don't get it.....water flows downhill. Is it that difficult to understand?
Yes. That merely exacerbates the problem(s).
Educational, interesting, and entertaining. Can't ask for more!
Thank you EJ! I'm glad you approve!
In Minnesota, there is a required 24" from the cutting edge of the equipment to the located facility, so if there is a 20" conduit pipe, add 24" to each side. Its against the law to use any machine to dig within the tolerance zone. I'm not surprised the utilities were off. Here I think they can be at least +/- 3 feet from the utility without any liability.
Do huh?
Here it's 18" I think. I imagine they just marked an old line and not the fiber that we found.
" good crew members who know how to work. I like it
Thank you MK! They are my greatest asset for sure.
Amazing work. Been watching you early on and seeing how far your company has come made me want to invest in myself and open my own business (has nothing to do with drainage) but I love watching these videos.
They are my go to for simple joy.
Thank you RC! Thanks for your continued support! - Shawn
Im not one to tell someone what to do but you should try to to contact the manufacturer of your tools and try to get them to sponsor your video of see if they will pay you to advertise their equipment such as work ladder/shovel/shoes/gloves
Just a thought.
You should try to get them sponsors now
You did good work. I bet the homeowner is still quite disappointed to see all that standing water afterward. A couple basins that with a pump discharge into your PVC would be nice to see. Maybe the neighbor would go in on a french drain between the properties that tee'd into the PVC before the curb.
Damit RUclips with its algorithm, I was thinking to myself that its been a while since ive seen any of your videos and went to check on your channel to make sure everything was all good and here we are with about 5 new videos that never showed up in my feed and ive been a day one subscriber!
Very very thorough ! A rarity these days . To be commended .
Thank you!
If you all gonna be running around d in the rain you should think about applying rainx to your windshield. Makes seeing out much much easier.
Great idea!
Thanks Shawn, I hope repair/rebuild season started in there, so we can see your jobs more frequently.
I have a bunch of videos ready to make. it just takes a lot of work to make them. I still enjoy it though.
I love your work!
Looks great, been using the knowledge from your videos for a drainage project at home. I have a downspout that discharges onto pavers and has been causing them to dip. The downspout now goes into a channel drain and along into a underground pipe I trenched in *full bubble. We use a modular gutter system here so its easy to join two downspouts into one pipe and in the summer i'm going to rework another section of gutter thats holding water and add another downspout into the new drain.
Nice work! I know it's hard work and I'm glad you're getting it done!
Thanks for posting your info. I found it informative.
Lol.. when Shaun goes “uh-oh” I thought the same thing 😂😂
Haha
Great video as always. Nothing for me to comment on your work. Just advance congrats on the soon-to-be 50k subs.
Hi I am long time follower of the channel and want to say Thank you for all the videos. I really love the professionalism and effort, put in each one of the jobs you do. The videos have improved greatly over the years and your craft as well. You always have all the needed tools and materials needed for the job, and your knowledge have helped you many time do the job properly and better than most.
I have a very similar issue and plan to do the same, the water runs past the gutters in heavy rain, because my roof pitch is too high, i plan on adding more downspouts but again the water skips past on high torrential storms.
My 2nd plan also it do a whole french drain on that whole side of the house, this will take care of the water that skips past the gutters and splashes down below on rhe flat land next to the house. I do have a gradual drop towards the backyard, my problem digging that french drain is going to be all the roots from a nearby oak tree. I love this channel by the way ive learned so much. Its all a process of elimination and moving water away from the house.
If you can keep that gutter water in a pipe that would be way better than a FD.
Love your videos and all the knowledge you share!!!
I might be picky but the end drain PVC pipe exposed to the outside is really UGLY!!! I would recommend painting them to match the grass or mulch.
Great job. Agree to slope land away at the back and put a sump pump with a channel drain or PVC underground with holes connected to it.
That would be phase 2 if needed.
Good job Shaun, you certainly have a great team working with you.
For sure! They are my biggest asset!
Great video. I don't see why the homeowner could not just regrade that area next to the house and slope the dirt away from the house.
Instead of regrading what's there, we would need to bring in dirt to build up along the house. That's phase 2 if the client wants to do it. 👍
@@GCFD Yes. That is what I meant to say. Add dirt to the side of the house in order to regrade. Thank you for the clarification.
Good to see the after in actual drain in action.
👍 It's my favorite part!
Great work!
Nice clean job. It's nice to see the gutters were clean and flowing well. It made your work stand out : )
Yep! Thank you!
You guys are wonderful, these videos are great entertainment too
Thank you!
You have a great team.
Yes they are my biggest asset!
In our Town we don't drill holes in the curb. We would end the pipe next to the curb and install a Tee pointing up and down. The bottom of the Tee would dump the water into the crushed stone under the curb and make it's way to the Town Drainage System. The top of the Tee would be a clean out to remove dirt and leaves. Nice videos Tnx
👍 coring the curb is called Tying into the city's stormwater management system.
Well done, got lucky with that utility locating screw up
Yep! That might have been an old line that was located instead of the live one.
If you don't have the Bobkitten with you, your can always use a chunk of 2x4 and your pickup tire to push against when coring the curb...
for sure! We've used the tire before and it works well.
Fantastic great work
Thank you Julie!
nice drone shots!
Thank you! I'm glad you noticed because I was really proud of that last one. It's hard to get those continuous shots without being too jerky. 👍
Nice work as always. You should put an old rag or towel between the ladder & gutter so the paint doesn't get scratched off the gutter or use one of those anti-slip ladder helpers...much safer.
Thank you Max! I really need to buy a new ladder too but I so rarely use it.
The height of the fall is determined by the height of the PVC pipe "sealed connection" to the down spout pipe. You could get your down hill spout to carry rain water over a 5 foot obstable as long as your connection pipe is a couple of feet higher than that 5 foot obstable...and all the PVC pipe is welded together between both ends. Simple...just like your city water towers are connected to a very tall "water tower". Their pipes rise and fall continuously because their water source is so high "and" the water is flowing thru a sealed pipe.
Great point Larry. The 1:1 ratio of the pipe wouldn't give you as much head as a water tower though. Those create a huge delta P to provide water pressure to the city.
Great job again! Makes a lot of sense to do some gutter work yourself, it's drainage after all, just a bit elevated.
Yep! haha
Hi Shaun, that gutter guard looked like that would stop a lot of water getting into the gutter if you have a good down pour.
For sure. Maybe remove one panel of gutter guard by the new downspout?
Great video, well done on the hand trenching think it saved a lot of pain! My thoughts about the over flowing gutter is that the gutter guard is not allowing the water through quick enough in heavy rain. Maybe removing some or all of it on that stretch would cure the problem. I think now you have the PVC run to kerb it would be self cleaning, guess that is the owner’s call based on the amount of “leafage” there is around. In the uk there is a gutter guard called Hedgehog, it’s like an oversized, bristly pipe cleaner that lays in the gutter, think that would work well if you guys have such a thing. 👋🇬🇧😀
That's a great idea! I think the HO was trying to save some money on the gutter stuff, so removing a panel of gutter guard might be the ticket.
Real nice. Clean your car window, dry it, then clean with alcohol and a lint free cloth. Tehn apply with an applicator Nu finish once a years car polish. Then wipe off water will bead off the window and reduce wiper chatter. sump basins yes. Liberty pumps not Zoeller! Thier switches fail!
I've had great luck with Zoeller but the supply house also sells Liberty. Thanks!
Hello from the Netherlands.
thanks for the video Shawn .
Sincerely Hollandduck
The gutter guards is the first reason it was overflowing so much before lol
For sure! We might remove that one panel of guard next to the new downspout.
I really hope the customer takes the 2nd option. That upper roof needs the down pipe directly into the PVC.
I just saw another video that used a similar hole saw drill. It was contained in a frame with geared advance.
That is probably why you’ve needed to prop yours against something and add the jack.
Good job
14:46 His Prediction was incorrect...
He Predicted UNDER 7 minutes and it took 7 Minutes exactly...
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Don't forget time fiddling with the camera! That adds at least double the time haha
I love watching these videos. so satisfying to watch, production quality is great and getting better all the time. and there is so much information.
I hope to be a homeowner soon and these videos have given me so much to think about when inspecting houses.
for the core drilling, could you fabricate a brace that hooks over the curb and comes around the back of the drill to provide the needed force?. you would be able to stop using the skid steer as a brace
you could also maybe fit a jack to the brace that could be cranked by by a hand held power drill.
Love the videos Shawn keep it up!
Thank you! I'm glad you've gained some value from my channel. No one ever considers drainage when buying a house and I have seen new homeowners who have flooding within a week of purchasing! I really like the idea of a brace that hooks the curb. That could be awesome.
I just saw the video where they moved entire concrete bridge with dawn dish soap. You should try that to get the pipe into the curb
👍 That would help for sure!
While the back and side are pretty level the front has a fair drop so a pipe running at a constant grade from the back to the curb would flow but it does require a constant change in the depth of the trench.
Great job as usual shawn, been missing your videos, they're not coming across my feed for some reason. I'll keep a lookout...take care my friend.
Thank you Troy! I have a bunch of videos to make but need to find the time.
Outstanding. When you got a great method, good crew, what can you really say?
I think so too!
good job
Great video! Thanks! :) Also beautiful grass lol
For sure! Their yard is very nice.
Great shot at 14:09 Shawn!
As a home owner who had the gutters and roof under the control of the condo board. I have had nothing but issues with their new installation. The volume of water that comes to a 6 foot span of gutter with leaf guard is just not able to keep up. Excellent job but from my experience i would suggest you bring that roof exit to the gutter. The neighbours who have a similar output on their roof have nothing but problems. The condo board and management company can't see the forest for the trees. Dealing with people who think they know is such a problem Every major rainfall the river that flies off my roof and rips the mulch of of the community flower beds is nothing that can be corrected. All I asked was to remove the leaf guard to see the difference. The idiotic replies were amazing. Everything from: its there for insurance purposes, Leaf control from my Locust tree (very tiny leaves), to the engineers have decided it is required to be there. I couldn't handle that level of incompetence any further. I was amazed.
13:00 I bet there is an OSHA inspector jumping out of their skin to yell at their monitor watching you use your feet to brace that bit! :)
Haha possibly. Luckily there is nothing on the bit to catch the boots. The worst thing is it throws water all over my shorts.
Hey Shawn, question, and maybe an idea: what if you heated up the pipe with a torch to make the end more flexible so it's not so difficult to run it into the curb? Or maybe cut a 1/4 inch strip out of the pipe (lengthwise) so that the remainder can more easily squeeze into the curb? Just some thoughts. I've been following you for a long time now and enjoy all your videos 💯
Heating up the pipe and some soapy water would help for sure! Great idea!
Drive the pipe from out side in, the way when drill the hole. It would be smoother
What about grinding a little off the outside of the pipe to make it a little smaller
Pound in a smaller section that would be less susceptible to bend force and just couple to it to complete.
For added extra, use a tee as the splice and put a clean out on the tee top
How did the crew who marked the utility lines get it so wrong? Does that happen often? The core drilling shot was great. Thanks for two vids in one day!
I've done locate for years. Sometimes there's two lines there for three lines. One's been abandoned already and those ones that they found could have been old lines or the new lines and the person you did. The locates doesn't know that there's not very good records for the cable and the Bell companies when they're doing their work so they could have uncovered the good lines and the guy marked the deadlines. Who knows unless you cut them and you find out. But that's not how you do it. They did a good job.
Like Paddle said above, I think they marked an old line and the fiber we found was never marked.
Something else the Home Owner should do to get rid of the pond is build up the shrub bed so it's higher than the grass and slope it away from the house...
An alternative is instead of building the sunken area up, you can add a French Drain along the edge of the sunken area bordering the grass and channel it into either the pipe where it turns to run to the street or, if there isn't enough Fall, end it in a Drain Pit and run the Sump Pump pipe to the PVC at that 90...
16:00 Make a relief cut in the top of the pipe.
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20:58 Should of taken the second floor gutter to the pvc pipe rather then having it dump in the gutter below, I would think would help ease the flow and volume of the gutter. But other wise great job.
Yes the original gutter installers should have added more downspouts.
You still need a French drain under the gutter since it still appears to be flowing over.
Undersize gutter on steep pitched roofs will always overflow, hence the standing water following a downpour.
If your gutter’s drainage area is 1,000 square feet, your pitch factor is 1.1, and the rainfall intensity in your area is 6.8 inches per hour, then your adjusted square footage will be 7,480 (1,000 x 1.1 x 6.8 = 7,480), this example requires a minimum 6 inch deep flow gutter. If unsure consult gutter manufacturer for size requirements.
How satisfying. :)
Thank you Becky!
You could use your drone to film yourself when up on a ladder to keep hands free. These are awesome videos btw.
Haha why didn't I think of that!
You guys have heavy rains sometimes, so on a roof that steep you need gutter guard with larger holes to catch all the runoff.
Great point Dan! We may remove that last panel of gutter guard by the new downspout.
The style of gutter guards that have do not work with steep roofs. They block 75% of the flow into the gutters. They either need to not have guards, or a screen style guard.
Good point Maverick 👍
2:00 nice garden hose
Some 2 hole stainless straps would look better than those bricks propping the pipe out back. Also a clean out would be nice. Overall good install
That car driving with hazards in the rain, dunno why, look e like they were having trouble, I would have gone another lane over. Lol, but I'm in Phoenix where when it rains everyone loses their minds. Although it bearly rains here, but when it does, it comes down so fast and hard you can't see your hood out your windshield and you can bearly see tail lights and you slow down to 10mph on the freeway where normal is 75+.... Hoping not to get hit. Which is how we get flash floods. Lol
I had the same thing when I lived in Colorado. They can drive in snow, but not in heavy rain! I'm usually out in AZ every year riding. Last year was Tuscon, Phoenix, Sedona and then I hiked The Wave!
For jobs like this, maybe you could carry a transition coupling from sch40 to sch30; and go sch30 through the curb which would give you a little bit more wiggle room
That leaf guard would be half the problem of the overflowing gutters
Maybe we could remove that last panel of guard right by the downspout.
That pool of water: What about adding earth and so hiding the majority of the pipes above ground?
Yes that would be the next step here. For now, we got the gutter water out of the back but the HO will let me know if he wants any more work done.
I am amazed at watching your jobs where storm water dosen't drain to the kerbside in the street or to a designated council stormwater pipe in an easement on the each property as they do here in Melbourne Australia you cannot just drain a stormwater pipe into a stone pit in the ground
You're seeing the worst cases on my channel so don't forget about all the downspouts that drain out and don't cause any issues. 👍
That was a good one, but don't you think maybe sometimes that gutter guard is causing the problem because it's not letting all the water into it. It's the water's hitting it and splashing off onto the ground, so maybe in some cases like that that gutter guard could be causing the problem. There's not any trees around so I don't think you'd have to worry about it. Like if there is trees hanging over the house that's one thing. But there's no trees anywhere near that so maybe removing the gutter guard first might solve the problem. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
That is what I was thinking too
Yes, for sure. We could remove that last section of gutter guard at the new downspout but leave the rest in place. The homeowner said the gutters were clogged really bad before I looked at the job.