101 Underground Buried Downspouts [ 2020 - 2021 ]
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2020
- 101 Underground Buried Downspouts [ 2020 - 2021 ]
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101 Underground Buried Downspouts [ 2020 - 2021 ]
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Great videos very informative. The only suggestion I have is maybe taking the music off because it's hard to hear your commentary.
I agree. Great info, but music is making harder to understand what you are saying.
I, too, fell that when the content is good that there isn't need for intrusive, overbearing, and distracting music.
Yea please remove the music
Dude, I'm a pipe welder, and have been running commercial and industrial piping systems, I give it to you, this looks like a straight up mechanical piping system with vents, strainers, and the whole 9, I have to do 2 separate french drains in front of my house, and I thought all of this would have been over kill, but this has been stupid helpful, keep up the great content dude 🤙🤙🤙
Love your videos. We are getting ready to bury our downspouts and your content has been so educational and helpful!! Thank you!
Throughly enjoyed this vid. Thank you! Great information
What a tease, cutting to the demonstration vid at the end and stopping it before showing water coming out the grate 😉 I’ve always run them to daylight, was hoping to see it in action!
great video, would love to see these systems in action during a storm, and maybe some winter videos as well. Wish you guys were in Wisconsin to work on my house. I have 2 downspouts that I have wanted to bury for years now. Your videos are giving me lots of great ideas.
Your videos are great! I just had water in my basement which I believe is due to an inadequate underground water drainage. I had a drainage man come to my house but after looking at your videos, he was going to do it all wrong. I just wish you guys were located in southeastern pennsylvania. Now I have to find another contractor. Thanks for the education!
Thx for the helpful information , will try to construct my project like this.
So much information, thank you so much!
Awesome video! Thank you!
this is a great video im getting into gutter guards / seamless gutter installation and also i want to do French drains helped open my eyes to other things that may be needed
Great video. I appreciate your honesty about moving away from the pop-ups to d-box + 6 inch round / 9x9 inch outlet basin.
For those who need to drain the roof runoff water to a French drain system, in order to get the water away from the house, how close /far away should the discharge be to /from the drain pipe?
Will the d-box also catch leaves and other debris that comes out of gutters?
Can you post a video that shows a French drain system that discharges to the curb?(via curb hole?) is it recommended to do this with a 4 inch or 6 inch drain pipe?
I live in VA and it’s rare to find a catch basin/storm drain like what you see in Michigan. My home doesn’t have one.
Thanks, I’ve been studying your videos for a few years now and they’ve been extremely helpful.
wow you do such a good job....hard to find these days. thanks
Awesome - thank you!!
These vids are awesome and very informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I just have a question about grade for a job like this. How do you calculate grade when there are multiple downspouts coming from different points and going into multiple d-boxes?
Found your videos and now I wish you were in Wayne county too! I’ll keep getting ideas since my downspouts have triple wall and pop-ups now
Hello, Can you use a 6” pop up emitter instead of the 6” open grate one the downspout discharge basin? Thanks for the great videos!
Great video. I've watched a bunch of your content but haven't heard you mention a Dbox system as much. Is this because there was no other french drain trench and it was only a down spout drainage. You mentioned this is the ideal set up, if you only have one down spout is it necessary?
Will you use a “D box” when you can daylight the draintile or tie into the storm sewer? I just don’t like pop-ups and avoid them if I can and if I do I put in a foot of River rock lined in fabric under it.
I do like the idea of the vent. I use clean outs and will sometimes put screens on the lower side of the Y when the water carries debris.
For long runs exiting the d boxes, do you ever need to vent the d boxes?
My gutter downspout is 3inch x 4inch (over-sized) Does boffman tile make a gutter adapter for this size downspout to connect to their vented y-adapter?
Can you connect downspout drains to french drains? Almost like a combo solution for one side of a house?
Hello..Just ordered materials from you to do open french drain in back of my house in swale to keep water from seeping down into my basement block. My question is..I'm gonna be running two lines high octane for french drain then using the HD blue for my gutter downspouts and it will all discharge to daylight..so will i or do i need to use distribution boxes for my downspouts? I have a total of 3 downspouts to capture and if so how many should i be using? It's a 2 story home 2 gutters are main and 1 is for a short run overhang roof section. Thanks so much for all the hard work and awesome content. Gives us homeowners the confidence and know how to do a professional job.
What’s a “rain event?” Is it kind of like rain?
If you drill holes in the bottom of the basin that is within 5-10’ of the foundation (right after the downspout, not the end of the line basin), does that amount of water leeching back towards the foundation create an issue?
can you do a video of how to charge to install drainage systems like a French drain please
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This is my latest video and it covers everything you might see at your home. Thank you for commenting and watching.
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mosquito cake(s) wrapped In stockings suspended from a screw inside the box.
How deep do you typically bury pipes for downspouts?
Thank you so much for this video, super informative! Do you do a D Box when you only have one downspout running into it?
I’m running some downspout lines soon at my house and I would have done it all wrong if I didn’t see your vids, thanks so much!
hi, i'm between neighboring houses and there is a valley which drains runoff. i want to install an underground gutter system. my gutters are facing the valley on both sides of neighbor. is it common to install the d-box in the valley or this should be avoided and rerouted along the valley? thank you very much!
I was waiting for you to say "acts as a clean out" that's pure life of system
And also vents are genius due to "air behind water" principle
If your flimsy corrugated pipe freezes up it's just going to burst. Also, solid PVC is going to carry water away faster than corrugated pipes. Corrugated is also going to catch all the shingle dust in the corrugations, before it even reaches the d-box, impeding flow.
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Do you charge per foot of tile laid? If so, how much do you charge per foot? Would this cover the entire bill? Thank you
Is the outlet base the same as a catch basin?
Great solution. I wish you guys service Canada too. 😂
Can you adapt a French drain pipe To a double walled downspout pipe?
Based on climate, how do you determine how deep the down spout pipes need to be so they don’t freeze up?
In one of the houses it looked like the D box was 5 ft from the downspout. Doesn’t this disrupt the velocity during a downpour? If you can discharge to daylight do you need a d box. Didn't you make a video before that says the single walled pipe was self cleaning. I hope you are close to starting that forum! Does all triple wall have a black lining? Do mosquitoes and worms crawl in the 6" round or 9" square discharge vents? The last video looked like the trench was shallow, what was the total depth?
Why not just use a “Y” fitting for the two downspouts into the main line? Seems like all the water momentum is lost in the box which otherwise would have flushed leaves and shingle gravel.
But the loss of momentum allows the gravel to settle in the easily accessible box rather than the bottom of the pipe in the yard. Flushing can happen but he said it takes a large downpour and it could clog in the meantime.
When drilling holes in the bottom of the D-box, would it make sense to put an inch or two of gravel underneath the D-box, or just put it right on top of the soil?
Yes it does help to put stone under and around it. Thank you for commenting
Do you ever put pea gravel beneath the D-box?
I am a plumber the way I always explain a vent on a drainage system is do you know how if you hold your finger over the top of a straw you can hold water in it but it soon as you let your finger off the top of the straw the water drains out that’s what I like in it to
I like that example also!
Agreed Tim Karcher. I think calling it a vent is a stretch. It may help vent but very very little. Cleanout is a better term although I can see why he wouldn't wanna call it that being that it implies possible future maintenance.
Question: what are professionals like you called? I need someone that understands everything from the downspouts sizing for a giving roof to the drainage system or dry well to evaluate the drain system. I have called two basement waterproofing companies and they seem to know a lot about the basement side of things but don't really focus as much on outside.
Excavation company or Pipe layers
How do you get the residual water out of the pipe in a northern winter climate before freeze? Or is it not an issue with enough drainage slope thst most water comes out and what remains just freezes and expanded inside the partially filled pipe cavity?
Properly engineered system will drain majority of water, leaving very little behind and even if small amount of residual water does freeze, 'new' water will just flow right over the top of it and out. If that 4" pipe ever froze solid with ice, there were a lot of mistakes made in the design of the system before it ever froze.
Thank you! I have a question: I just bought a house and it has downspouts that are buried, it's already rained and snowed a few times and there are no "obvious" issues, but how do I know if the job has been done right (without digging the whole yard out 😁), what are some things/signs I can look out for? Thank you
Find where the Drains Daylight ( Discharge ) and cut back the grass
So what happen in the winter times when it’s all frozen ??.
@French Drain Main - After the downspout vent is run with the solid pipe and connected to the dbox - is the pipe that is used to empty the d-box solid or the high octane? And, if someone wanted a downspout to drain to a curb hole, how does one also drain a french drain to the same curb hole?
Wye fitting
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN I'm referring to the pipe that empties the dbox and in most of the videos ends with a pop up
Why didn't you use the Y-cleanouts on the downspouts for the house featured at the end of the video?
Looks like they used the existing downspouts and only tee'd in with their d-box and new pipe after all walkways, and planter areas for this video. Might have been customer request to use some old to save money, or they didnt want them going under concrete and messing up planter areas. Great catch though. And good question, cause he says they always use them
Can you also attach a french drain to a distribution box so it can direct water to the main outlet?
Yes
2 Simple questions :
1) How or can you prevent downspouts freeze up without heating wires ?
2) What happens to the buried lines and the discharged grills when the ground is frozen 3 feet deep with 3 feet of snow and the spring rains start to melt the roof snow and everything ?
I’m wondering that too. How do you empty the line before winter
It would seem that you are far north.
You have to look at your situation: how far away is your termination, how much slope you can achieve
I think he uses 4” pipe which is a lot.
If that isn’t enough, then go with 6” at some point or double the line further away
There are a lot of factors to consider
In this video the lines are practically on the surface which is unusual for his systems.
Use a leaf blower
@@brockkirschenmann9711 That's why they were drilling holes in the bottom of the d-box - water drains out and percs into the soil. Same thing would happen at the emitters/outlets - either a sump tube or d-box with holes in the bottom.
It is really helpful videos and links, but if you would put links to the actual products that you discuss and educate us on it would be very helpful. You have quite a range of products and for the layman that only recently started following your channel it can become quite overwhelming. This would be helpful especially if the video is specific to our situations. Since it is how we execute many of our searches for problem solving. Please consider this only as a kind request and disregard if there was a popup/link that I may have overlooked.
Why were there no vents on the three downspouts at around the 18 min. mark?
They have a different system for clean outs i will cover in a video
If I am combining 2 downspouts that are 24 feet apart into a main line, is it better to have a D box near the bottom of each downspout or can I put one near one of the downspouts and run a corrugated line from the other one 24 feet to that D box?
I think I found the answer to my question at 18:59
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Thanks for the video and valued insight. You are really exceptional in your presentation. I’d suggest NOT adding the music. It’s a bit distracting. If you feel you need it edit that track volume down as you are speaking and raise it up as “fill”. Again, good video, helpful tips, Ditch the music - you don’t need it.
The music makes it hard to hear you. And I have to learn how to fix a flooding problem so I really would like to hear you. Thanks.
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My "exit" is at the street only thing is the street is higher than the exit. The exit is downhill from the drains but also the street aka a grass culvert. Will water back up the main line when the culvert inevitably starts to hold water? Will a drain still let water escape if the exit point is under water?
Yes great question. Water seeks level on this planet so just like a straw in a drink of water, in the straw water is at the same level as the water in the glass. If you run more water through the straw it doesn't back up.
Hey thanks for responding. I couldn't really verbalize a comparison for my worried customer and your answer is easy to understand. Many home owners here (West Central Florida) are getting ripped off by these "I watched an Apple Drain Video" installers. I am glad I found your channel because even though I generally do surface not subsurface, you do things right and know a lot. Mainly the reason I dont do subsurface is seeing the full length you need to go to do it correctly. People here are hard selling the "ditch witch, half rock / half dirt" french drain special and I hate it. Oh dont forget the speedy drain surface inlets with perforated pipe for added "drainage". I have seen some crazy stuff. Anyway, I am trying to give them what I believe to be better solutions. I hope.
I have half a room in 3 down spouts. Shouldn't the 3 tie into a larger drain pipe
A 4" Drain Pipe handles 4 downspouts guaranteed and the line will stay cleaner because more water flushing through the line will prevent shingle gravel or sediment from settling in the pipe. Water volume is a good thing.
I can see you didn't put gravel and non woven barriers this time? Are this just run out for the gutter?
Yes just gutters and subsoil is sand.
Thanks for sharing this great informative video. Please make the music less loud its hard to understand when you speak sometimes, thank you.
Will do!!
no, music was great..adds color and energy to your content!
Yes, the music was a bit too loud in this video. Made it difficult to hear you at times. Great info!
What tape do you using for your pipe connections?
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So no textile fabric / rock is necessary in a downspout application since the pipe is solid?
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Won't the D box's drainage holes get clogged with shingle gravel?
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What’s the closest to the house you ever put a D box? Is two feet too close?
10ft plus. Middle of the run
So the d box is used to catch debris. . . How can you be so sure that the debris will make it to the d box in the first place? Is it because it has enough slope? And if thats the case then why not just run the pipe to a 9x9??
Because we run 25 ft away capillary action will move water towards foundation up to 20 ft away
So how do you insure that the pipe from the downspout to the dbox doesn't beco.e plugged with debris?
What brand of pipe do you use? Where does one buy it?
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what did you use to remove the grass?
It's called a sod cutter, you can rent them at Home Depot.
The downspouts are "vented" where the metal downspout meets the underground plastic adapters
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I've read in several places that these systems need to be buried 18-24 inches deep, whereas you're barely going just enough to bury the pipe?
Why?
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN I’m not a drain expert of any kind so I can’t say why. That was my question to you. What’s the method for depth, deep, or shallow in your case.
Agricultural do to heavy tractors and no stone around systems requires those depths. For yard drainage shallow is fine. 10 inch minimum and slope it 3% from there. It 💪works great.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN 10 inches from the bottom of the trench to grade or 10 inches over top of the pipe once it’s on the bottom?
Ahh, so shingle gravel and leaves would be why you wouldn't have downspouts empty into a french drain. Cool. sysyem.
Great video; good detailed info: please turn down (or better "off" ) the background music ;-/
Lose the background music hard to hear you.great video
Noted. Thank You for commenting.
You should my mess here in Kentucky 3 down spouts washing me away. So much water yard and driveway runs to the house all on a 1 acre lot. Backyard at passed the pool drops 20' in 20'. Guess I find a pro drink beer and watch.
I need help in Maryland and can’t find anyone who will run a single 100foot trench with 1 solid stormwater and a perforated French for less than $18,000. Is that a ripoff?
Thats sounds on the higher end but there could be more to your situation if youre consistently getting similar pricing. Its always good to check if the company has knowledge and experience in yard water drainage before choosing a company. That being said there's many variables that come in to play when pricing a job such as - Is theres trees in the work area? Is there utilities underground, underground irrigation or other obstacles to work around? Can you access the site with a machine or will it all be hand dug? What kind of soil conditions are you dealing with? Rocky, clay, sand, hills or flat land. Where will the water be discharged? Do you have to core a storm basin, use an outside sump system, run to daylight, or leech field? What size piping will be needed?
Its hard for a professional to answer that question without being on site to assess your specific situation. Hope that helps.
If you dig the trench yourself using rented equipment you can probably save money haha.
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So is the distribution box acting as your catch basin? And please, forego the music. Completely unnecessary (and far too loud).
Get rid of the background music so that I can focus on what you’re trying to explain
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Please delete the background music
PLEASE get RID of that music. I'm trying to concentrate on your very important information. That music is SO distracting.
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This is much better and more current