Why did Rachel Steal Her Father's idols ?
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- Why did Rachel steal her father's idols? (Genesis 31:19)
In Genesis 31:17-21 NKJV we read:
17 Then Jacob rose and set his sons and his wives on camels. 18 And he carried away all his livestock and all his possessions which he had gained, his acquired livestock which he had gained in Padan Aram, to go to his father Isaac in the land of Canaan. 19 Now Laban had gone to shear his sheep, and Rachel had stolen the household idols that were her father’s.
Clearly though Laban had idols. Though Jacob being a man of God why would his wife steal her father's idols?
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If you’re trying to “purge idols and idolatry” from your home you DON’T take them with you!
Read the Book Of Jasher
It has nothing to do with her "wanting " his idols.
This idols work as mediums.
She did not wanted her dad to enquire about where they were going.
@@rosaclapshaw364interesting thought.
That's what I was thinking.
@@SikiDlanga yes my friend, the Book Of Jasher will clear many things, I am so thankful, The Lord is Good, he is most kind to those who love Him.
Shalom 🌿
This whole event really shows the foolishness of paganism. How could you have a god that can be stolen from you?
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Like in the book of Judges
Simple: those weren't mere ídols but also served as seas of autenticity to show you owned a property, that's why he was so desperté to remover them, they were akin to your property papers
It seems pretty obvious to me that she stole them thinking they might help her to become pregnant. Her sister had 6 sons, she had 1. Also, Laban had not given Jacob dowries for either girl, so she felt entitled to them. The fact that she didn't tell her husband shows she knew that what she did was not right.
I agree. Alot of ancient gods were fertility gods. It is ironic that she dies in childbirth. It is shame that Jacob never prays for Rachel like his father did for Rebekah .Maybe it would have lead her to turn to God instead of idols.
She already had kids and used mandrakes to get pregnant.
. I dont know but a lot of women died in childbirth in those days
She was already preggers with benjamin though when she stole them.
@kathleenwagner3259 Genesis 31:32 Jaccob prayed that whoever stole the idols would die as punishment, not knowing it was Rachel.
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I think Rachel’s motive : she was mad at her father Laban. It was revenge for : she waited 7years to marry Jacob, and while she was getting dressed for her wedding- her father (deceived her and Jacob) gave her sister to her fiancé to marry!! Much later, It was her one act ( her deceit ) that cost her everything- Jacob not knowing she took worthless idols, spoke death over her (Gen31:32) and she died in childbirth. The spirit of deceit bounced from one person to another Rebecca, Laban, Jacob, Rachel and then Jacob’s sons over Rachel’s child Joseph.
Working things out in our own strength and ability, instead of waiting on God, costs us dearly.
Yeah I had the same feeling reading this story. Out of spite for her dad and probably entitlement too, since Laban didn't give her inherritance.
It was not revenge. Rachel pbuh, didn't want her father to worship false Idols,
so she stole them to destroy later.
Rachel and Jacob knew her father was going to deceive him so they made signs. When Leah pbuh was to be married, Rachel gave her the signs out of love for her sister.
She stole them because they were made of gold and silver and worth a fortune... the fortune Laban ought to have paid Jacob and never did.
This is true.. Bcoz of this she couldnt reach canan....
There’s nothing in the narrative to support that they were made of expensive metals. Most idols of that era were carved from stone. A golden or silver idol was exceedingly rare
Its interesting that in revelation God uses an unclean woman riding a beast as a symbol of mystery Babylon. An unclean woman in Israel custom is a woman having her period. Rachel claimed this while sitting on a beast hiding her stolen Idols. There is something about this that deserves further study.
True
Tx for the revelation
I concur with the third point. she ‘d watched her dad use those gods for years and felt she’d need them, too
She represents the bride that will bury the false gods, and turn to the LORD in the "is to come"
According to Mesopotamian customs 15th - 20th century BC, the individual who possesses the household gods inherits after their father and assumes the role of head of the household. Considering this tradition, the practical woman was contemplating staking her claim on her father’s assets in the future.
According to the Book of Yashar (Jasher),
those household idols are divination items which with a ritual could tell you where something missing is. Which is why Rachel took it so that Laban could not locate them.
Book of Yashar 31:44
(read the whole chapter)
That book is not inspired scripture, so it may contain inaccurate accounts, but it does make sense within context and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case. Genesis 30:27 shows that Laban claimed to perform a sort of divination, which presumably was done with these idols.
@@ExaltedTilemaker Didn't Yehoshua (Joshua) speak of it in reference? 🤔
@@ExaltedTilemaker Who decided that it's not inspired scripture? Kindly tell.
@@-A.R.A.D- Exactly. The book of Enoch was referred to in the New testament yet they removed it. Joshua also spoke of the book of Jasher and they also removed it. If these books were mentioned in the Bible why were they removed? People don't ask questions and simply regurgitate what they are taught.
There were no gods. They couldn't do anything for Laban or against Jakob, they were made from human hands., That is why they have no power at all! It was the false faith of Rachel and of Laban that they believed that these so-called gods could do something for or against them. Maybe it was only God's will in order to destroy idolatry in the house of Laban, who put that in Rachel's heart!
Rachel was trying to protect her family from father.The mistake she made,she should have told her husband.She was favored both by God and her beloved husband Jacob!Sge bore him two impactful human being!God blessed her!!
My husband and I were reading these verses a few days ago. Given what kind of idols these were, I jokingly called them Laban’s porn collection.
Hahahaha! Well put. Our hearts are so deceptive when it comes to secret sins. I think it is as Scripture revealed, a love of gold and gods in the ancient culture
Amen
These events seem like a “type and shadow “ of what will happen of the events of the exodus and Mount Sinai
Never mind why she took her father's house idols. Why did he have them in the first place???
They were pagans from the jump, that's why God had Abraham leave that family.
Laban was pagan
My Ancient History professor said that these household idols, in addition to being objects of religious devotion, were also tokens of inheritance. That these objects could be brought forth after Laban’s death as tokens - proof - of Jacob’s right to Laban’s wealth as Laban’s heir. I haven’t read this story in a long time. Were there brothers or other male relatives who might have contested Jacob’s right to the wealth he took away with him when he fled? Remember, in ancient times, inheritance did not usually flow to daughters - only to male heirs. Other male heirs might have disputed the wealth that Jacob amassed per his VERBAL agreement with Laban (fourteen years of service in return to or his wives, children, and all the “striped” sheep). According to this hypothesis, Rachel was simply trying to preserve some evidence in case of a dispute with her father’s tribe over this wealth. Jacob, on the other hand, was done with trickery and underhanded dealing. He didn’t need to have a feud with his wives’ kin. The fact that he offers his brother half his wealth as a peace offering to end THEIR feud shows his change of heart. Rachel hoped to preserve Jacob’s wealth in the event of a dispute with her male kin. Jacob had finally reached the point where amassing wealth was no longer that important to him. If Laban’s male kin disputed his right to his wealth, he wasn’t going to fight with them over it. So, he disposed of the idols and looked to God as his inheritance.
Perhaps the closest reason for Rachel to do it because of what she believed about the idol and what she believed the idol could fulfill for her.
In the book of Jasher, Jewish literature states that in the land where Laban lived, the people all had gods that they would make. The scripture states that it involved the unalive head of a firstborn, it doesn't really say if it was human or animal, and that they would put candles around it and summon spirits from the stars, which would embody the head and it was able to tell predict the future. In the Book of Jasher it states that she took them so Laban couldn't use them to find them, the book goes on later to say that Laban used his neighbor's gods to find them. Listen to the Book of Jasher it tells a lot about their intimate thoughts and puts you there in the story. Pray the LORD shows us wisdom and gives us understanding. In Jesus' name AMEN amen
Thank You for that info. I've heard the book of Jasher has answers to other questions as well. I'm going to listen to it.
The Book of Jasher is not one of the 66 books.... don't take it as the Truth....Ezra never included it not should you....
Thanks for the "warning" Jasher is mentioned in Joshua & in Samuel Its a scholarly book that OT people read for helpful insight. Like having a dictionary or a concordance. @@gnieu1278
@@gnieu1278 you can read it but it contradicts Genesis and the book of jubilee. It read nothing like the Bible .
Excellent video! Thank you for looking at all the angles. God bless!
Perhaps they were an idol . The god of fertility since she was having a hard time conceiving like Leah and perhaps the consequence even though she repented 9:39 for her secret worship cost her ; her own life while giving birth to Benjamin the name she chose was Benoni “ the son of my sorrow “ ( because of my sin )
God even used that for our good, because centuries later He raised up Paul, a Benjamite, to be the great Apostle to the Gentiles.
You must be a mind reader. I was wondering about this yesterday as I was listening to the book of exodus, this this is the first thing I see in my recommendation as I come onto RUclips. I know she died because Jacob said, whoever took it let him die. I also wondered why the children of Israel asked Aaron to make them a god from the gold. It's like the people of that day needed to have some deity and any god would do.
SHE WAS SAVING HER FATHER FROM IDOLITY... SHE RISKED HER LIFE TO HELP HER FATHER OUT OF GREAT LOVE!!! GOD IS NOT TO BE MOCKED!!! JACOB HAS HER GOD FOR HE IS GOD ELOHIM ADONAI EMANUEL!!!
I don't understand why People are blaming Rachel, what about his father who betrayed her and Jacob on the wedding night, remember Jacob was Asked for Rachel Not Leah's, only THE Almighty One Knew what was the real reason reason she was acting like that
I believe she had the spirit of idolatry. I believe it’s a curse. I had it. I always idolized someone famous or a bf. I always ended up with narcissists who needed my idolization. They become idols in your heart. I had no control over it and was unaware until I got called by Lord Jesus in 2022. Removing the idolatry has not been easy. I’m working with Jesus and I’m forming a very close relationship with him through prayer, fasting and Bible study. It is the strangest phenomenon but it’s true. I believe Rachel had it too.
I believe she was attached to them as she was raised in this belief her whole life and took them for protection
It had something to do with land and titles of the times, is what I heard. She took then as to say that land belongs to me.
They did that with the gold from Egypt!
You didnt’ mention at least two other theories. She may have taken the gods for revenge. Laben did Jacob wrong-very wrong, so as Rachael loved her husband she may have sought to harm her father by stealing something fundamental and precious to him. Another idea is that perhaps these gods represented some kind of lineage, familial authority, or even influenced inheritance of wealth in some way…a pegan version of the birthright, so Rachael may have been acting shrewdly here to effectively take over some influence in the family for herself and Jacob.
There is also a symbolic element. A woman on her period is considered unclean and here you have so called deities beneath her.
Voice irritating but good message brother
She was protecting her family. And she was going to let go of the idols. She was serving a Big God. JacobGod.
If that in the case she wouldnt have died on the way to canan.. She had stolen.. There is no excuse.. We cannot do good with evil deeds
@@mariyabathel657 if that's the case if Thou Shall Not Kill is a commandment, then Joshua leading Israelites to kill and destroy canaanites can be considered doing good with evil deeds
@@elenap3096 we would be hard pressed to explain what good Rachel was doing by lying to her father and deceiving him about where the idols were. Even Rahab the harlot, when she received mercy for helping the spies, was not praised for doing it by LYING. That's one of the things God hates!
She was holding on to her fathers Idols meaning she was looking back she did not know the God of Jacob yet and she was barren so those gods were fertility gods some of them. She was leaving all she knew so it was hard for her to let go of her past and idols so she held on to them.
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READ THE BOOK OF JASHER 🌿
She stole them because she believed in them. They were her gods too and brought comfort to her as these were the gods she grew up with. Most likely she took them for good luck of some sort.
Foolishness 😂😂😂. In original language this idol is equivalent to document of properties and assets. She stole everything of her father's for her new life. She was a good woman. I love her character
Interesting but you did not have to copy effective scenes from.The Exorcist to fashion the household gods. Do you know that A C Emmerich saw these special figurines in the houses of people in the first century They are called teraphim.and like the brass serpent and cherubim.in the Tabernacle it would appear that the Jews waived the commandment about graven images. Very difficult to find out why they did but it is clear from archaeology that they did
Does a thief need to have a reason that makes sense ? Why didn’t she throw them away a few miles away from her dad’s house ?
I said the same thing too
Wow YOU ARE ALREADY USING THE AI FOR THIS VIDEO
Imguess can say anything. They were powerful to him i guess. There never an answer
It explains this without speculation in The Book of Jasher.
The person who made this video obviously read this from the book of Jasher but "religion" won't let him make that reference. Uninspired writings are not necessarily wrong.
@@diligenceeke3023 what disqualifies it from being inspired???
@@TheKingsDaughter1995the gnostic & other teachings that undermine or contradict biblical truth thats woven throughout that book
@@TheKingsDaughter1995 Jasher doesn’t align fully with Genesis and was written during the late second temple period. It’s definitely not inspired, it’s midrash and pretty bad midrash at that
@@TheKingsDaughter1995 i’ve read it. It contradicts the Bible in the account of cain and Abel. the book of Joshua said that cain kill Abel with a stone the book of Jubilee states that Cain kill Abel with an instrument that he used to til the land, very contradictory, right?
I think Laban owes Jacob money in withheld wages. These idols were most likely made of precious materials. Melt them down and sell them.
I think she took the idols to pray to. She took them for herself.
She brought trouble to them by stealing.
Not that complicated. She took them as something her father valued for revenge for how he treated his family. 🎉
Religion woulsnt say take.
Jacob disapproved even cursing the memeber of his group who took from Laban.
Derek Prince didnt advise tossing out others occul possessoins doing so for deliverance due to conflict.
We belong to God, just as Jesus does:
Every person has come from the foreknowledge of God the Father, even Jesus. However, Satan has interfered in our thinking, causing separation between God and man. It was the will of God the Father to send his Son to deliver us from sin. It was Jesus who came to seek and save that which was lost (Luke 19:10), for there are many bodies joined to one spirit-and that spirit belongs to God the Father. God gave life to ALL things. In these scriptures, Jesus speaks of God giving him life (John 6:57, John 5:26). Jesus came to reconcile us back to the only true God (John 17:3), of whom all things consist and came from (1 Corin 8:6). As it is written In John 17:21-22, we are to become one even as they are one. We already know all things, but it is God's Holy Spirit that will bring all things to our remembrance (John 14:26).
What do you mean by "even Jesus". You still have no idea of whom Jesus truly was.
@@diligenceeke3023 And it’s not who Jesus was, it’s who he is. If people would actually read what Jesus is saying about the Father, they will understand all things. But this will never happen without his Holy Spirit, which is the revealer of God’s word. You say I don’t know Jesus, that’s not the question, but does Jesus knows me. I know without any doubt whatsoever that I belongs to God, because Jesus himself told me so. He always walks in the room, allowing us to see him, doing great wonders right before our very eyes. Jesus still looks up to the Father when he prays. When I pray he hears me immediately. Jesus said God is the only true God John 17:3, and that cannot be changed. He said he would magnify himself to us, and he has done just that. I am one of the happiest in the whole world.
Emmanuel, God with us. Before Abraham was, I Am. Who thought it not robbery to be equal with God..etc
Rachel was not saved in childbearing
@@Unknown.servant Yes, God with us. God's power dwells and does all things through his Son. The Father is the one true God; Jesus is his Son.
It is written plainly for all to see. Jesus said the doctrine is not HIS, but the Father who sent him. If Jesus was God as you claim, and the doctrine isn't his, then the doctrine doesn't belong to God.
God the Father speaks and does all things through his Son.
They were land markers. She was taking her inheritance and dowry.
I don't understand why "scholars" work so hard to try to find some kind of "honorable" reason for the dishonorable things God's people do...
There is only one reason that makes sense behind Rachael taking the idols and hiding them from both her husband and father and that is strong emotional attachment to them...
It's okay, Jacob is God's focal servant here, not Rachael and Jacob honored God.
agreed
I assumed she took them because they weee made of gold
Why is it that everytime I watch any video that uses AI to describe the Scriptures and the matters thereof it shows the children of Yisrael, even the Yehudi, as a light skinned people when, on the contrary, they were a darker or dark-skinned people 🤔?
Jesus saves us from sin, not from skin. Skin color is irrelevant, we do not serve the god of melanin. Every tribe and every people make sacred figures look like them, it is normal and everyone needs to get past it.
If you look at the Arabs in Saudi Arabia who are also descended from Abraham they are a mixture of white and darker skinned. The Syrians from whom Abraham came are a mixture also. As are current day Jews, the Cypriots, Kurds and Palestinians - middle eastern populations which are closely related.
There are some who suggest that Rachel wanted them for her own spiritual life and was not in covenant with YHWH....and Jacob's curse caused Rachel's death!?!?
The devil uses these false idols to deceive people by making supernatural things to happen as if it's these useless things doing it. Interesting that he didn't have any power when the prophet Elijah confronted the false worshipers of Baal on mount Carmel. He was unable to make fire come down to consume the sacrifice. God is in control. He caused fire to come down in the book of Job why not now? He can only do what the true king allows.
Don't think Supreme Being as a meagre human.
Anyway you look at it rachel lied cheated and stole and what worse she did what lots wife did and her heart was corrupted .
Jacob lied, cheated, and stole too. They were perfect for each other.
The text says Jacob " hid" the idols, hmmm... not a clean break perhaps but keeping them in reserve as a "back up." It is impossible for us to imagine what it was like being the only monotheistics in
the world. It is hard to discern leaven when you have been bowing to it for generations. Is this perhaps why Jeroboam chose Bethel as the place to set up the golden calfs?
This is why although Jesus received the Holy Spirit as a dove we receive as a fire, only fire can kill leaven.
The path of the righteous grows brighter and brighter until the full day.... walk by the Spirit beloveds.
Jacob wrestled personally with The Lord … face to face … he did not need a backup
@@Ken_829 Jacob would face his brother in the morning: when first running from him and found himself at the place of the Lord: he imagined in all his wildest dreams that he could cut a deal with God: by keeping his shirt ON his back and not to be killed by Esau.....
Understanding that Jacob was not the FAVOURITE masculine son that smelt of the fields.......
He stole the blessings to the BIRTHRIGHT: but God made him fight all night to keep that privilege........changed his Troublesome name and made him a Prince like his father ISAAC!
I don't think she took them because they were valuable materials, i think they were made from wood or stone and not gold or silver in those times. She took them maybe because of superstition, she grew up with these false gods and somewhat still have influence by the culture. She also didn't tell Jacob about them because she knew stealing was wrong and by this time Jacob was a changed man unlike his uncle. She knew Jacob would have objected for her to steal them regardless of her motives.
Rachel was attached to her father's idols and she was not as godly as her sister Leah. Rachel showed her lack of character by being jealous of Leah when she began bearing children while she, Rachel, was barren.That's why God blessed Leah and she bore 6 of Jacob's 12 sons, and her servant bore 2 more. Leah had far more influence in the famiIy through two thirds of the sons, than Rachel, even though Jacob loved Rachel more.
Also, Jesus is the descendant of Leah through Judah rather than of Rachel through Joseph or Benjamin. Leah was the dutiful wife, yet Rachel was the one who was not content. Rachel practiced witchcraft with the mandrake roots, and she died giving birth to Benjamin. Even though she didn't honor God in her life by her actions, God honored her by giving her a son like Joseph, and a later even greater descendant Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles. God is good, even though we never are. I praise Him for giving us beauty for ashes.
Leah was a liar and Jacob never wanted her.
@@jdschauss*Joseph is descendant of Judah not Jesus Christ.
@@kwestionowaniestatusuquo7644 Joseph was Judah's half brother, not his descendant. Also, who said that Joseph was a descendant of Christ?
@@kwestionowaniestatusuquo7644 Laban was a liar and Leah was an obedient daughter.
He should have just learned to Love Leah fully and call it a day.
Maybe so, but then Benjamin wouldn't have been born and we'd have never known Paul the Apostle.
I believe she stole them because she was still a pagan.
Followers of God want nothing to do with false gods/demons.
.....manner of women.....
Kannda beku
It is pronounced "rock el" not "rey chel". Also then "ch" is pronouned with a hard c and h .
I was wondering whether this action caused her not to get pregnant for a long time.
I've always believed it was Jacob's obsession with her, preferring Rachel over Leah is what caused her to not get pregnant for a long time.
@@elenap3096it was Jacob's apathy towards Leah that she got pregnant so easily. The Lord blessed Leah with children to love because Jacob didn't love her.
I think your theory is baseless. The most probable is that Rachel hailed from an idolatry family. So, she has a lingering feeling for them. That was why she stole them. And may be because of this act of hers, God punished her
That was the 3rd theory in the video
Jesus is not the Father
It was demonstrated that Rachel was a jealous and greedy person. The idols were quite possibly and probably made of gold or silver so simple greed could’ve been the motivating factor as she had stated before they left that her father had spent all her money.
AI is awful at exegesis.
5. they were made of precious metals and she was thinking of the money
She took the idol because they were deeds to her father's property. The deeds were written on the idol. Whoever has the idols owns the property. That's why laban wanted them back.
Ok I just wasted all this time watching this
Sadly
Well if you read the book of jasher it tells you why she stold them . Because her father lebanAnd some make them in the figures of men, of gold and silver, and go to them in times known to them, and the figures receive the influence of the stars, and tell them future things, and in this manner were the images which Rachel stole from her father. There it is
Christian doesn’t understand the Torah teachings. Rachel brought the idols to break the idolatry from her father house she knows her husband God is spirit not a idol diets. Whatever you do physically it’s happened in spiritual realm.
Ok, it’s Krishna they are committing Genocide on in this story. With King Solomon who is Māori and the origin of Hawaii South America Easter Island. New Zealand was in the North Pacific. All of these stories are tools by which they use to perpetuate Genocide on Allah and his people. Buddha and his people Krishna and his people and all Indigenous Tribes of the World. That is why the English language is created Too! Especially!!😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
God had Jacobs back , Like the couple who hid Their sold Lands money from Peter , and Holy Spirit , their Lives ended making Money an Idol ,their way of Fruitfulness instead og GOD , Ratcheal was spared from Death because her Motive was pure . Hense Her Sons where king over their siblings .