es aterrador pensar en que su propia madre (o talvez su padre) la creo en ese juego solo para morir dolorosamente, una y otra y otra vez, rogando que la salven
Don’t get your hopes too high for a season 2. With the ratings & the review scores & the budget & Netflix being Netflix, this show has a decent shot of being a Season 1 and done.
@@KingCrimson82 Netflix uses unknown internal metrics to decide whether or not to renew a show. They have canceled a bunch of sci-fi & fantasy shows that were #1 in the US at some point.
It’s funny how the Shan-ti make it seem like they’re just refugees looking for a new place to live, but at the end of the season you know they are conquerors, and their intentions are nothing but hostile
Variety has named it the number 1 show of the week with 1.6 billion minutes viewed. I hope Netflix will start season 2 soon! Thanks Netflix! Great show!
They can't lie in their native language: It is implied that they have some sort of super-fast optical form of "speech" which directly translates their thoughts to information. Thus they cannot have an internal dialogue separate from their communication. The instant they think the word, it is spoken. But they learned to do it through text/speech eventually...
@@RainbowDevourer i thought it was that they literally didn't understand the concept of deception until a human described it to them. isn't this scene from before that?
@@heck6225 in the Netflix show, kind of. In the Chinese show and book it’s a bit more fleshed out. It’s more that their communication and their thought is the same so they didn’t initially understand the implications between separating thought and communication, and lying can be part of that. But they understand lying, their entire plan for Earth is based upon deception. It’s that they didn’t initially understand a distinction between communication and thought. It’s a subtle difference but also a big one.
she is just a small alien child. in the books, They read human fairy tales because they do not have literature like humans and have the scientists read to their children. They don't understand metaphors.
@@Kj99xone of the main themes of the book/show is that humanity would be incapable of peace if we were invaded by entities from another world so peace was never an option to begin with
The main theme of the books was that the universe out there was extremely hostile. That was the reason why the universe was silent for so long. Once the location of a civilization was known, it would inevitably be wiped out and replaced. The San-ti's did not speak with one voice and the first response to Ye Wenjie's message as shown in the show was from a San-ti telling her not to answer because it would be the end of humanity.
Season 1 (the first book) is meant to be an introduction to Season 2 and 3 which get a lot more wilder. If you thought season 1 was too much, just wait and see.
I think originally their plan to conquer humanity would’ve probably led to them just subjugating us, but after learning about lies they concluded that we couldn’t live with them.
If you aren’t into the books’ story line you are in for one hell of a treat. I’m don’t know if they will get into it next season but they have already merged the three book storylines so maybe they will…it’s pretty gnarly.
Why do I have a feeling those who were left behind on the trisolar planets are the "undeserved" and "unaligned" ones left to be doomed rather than volunteers or resource limitations
nope. Sounds like something we'd do. While I'm not certain what criteria they used to choose who was on those ships, I can assure you that the vast majority of their world is of one mind in the sense that they're unified. Their species is beyond desperate, especially when any of the 'chaotic eras' could literally be their last one.
@@mandasity I don't buy it. Even the first alien we contacted was like "Bro, don't message back, the others will take over." On a basic level variety in a species and a society is vital for survival through many different circumstances. I think a dissenting voice is inevitable in any intelligent, social species. Even if the Trisolarans aren't individually minded like we are I would be shocked if there wasn't a group that opposed the decision to conquer Earth and even resisted. I like OP's idea that the Trisolarans left the pacifist faction behind to their fate. I've forgotten so much of the book, need to reread, but I remember having the impression our view of the Trisolarans is very skewed by how and why we meet them.
@@forrestpenrod2294 the book showed the one listener as a dissident, and mentions 2 periods of time where their civilization was closer to mirroring ours. Everything else you just said is your own words and has no basis in the books. It's logical sure and a valid point too, despite the fact that you're making assumptions of how a potentially infinite number of varying societies might look based off of a single solitary data point :P, but there is literally no more elaboration than the one dude and the two periods of time. 1 was in the past the 'princeps' (leader) of their world explained to the listener. The second was when *SPOILER* during the period before the fleet arrives when both cultures started adopting qualities of the other's, but it is also implied that a degree of it was just more deception on their part. I can't argue that it's a pleasant thought to see ourselves in other societies though.. it would be comforting to find that kinship.
No. They evolved to accept sacrifice. The entire concept of "resource limitation" is one axiom of why every civilization in the cosmos is hostile towards one another, though.
@@forrestpenrod2294 Yes, the Listener can't be unique. He may even be in the majority. But as the opening of the book/show reminds us, good individuals are at the mercy of cruel regimes.
Netflix, PLEASE! Approve season 2! The series are GREAT! Solid 8/10, I wanted to give 9 but... It's almost there Please, don't cancel the show, it's really good: sci-fi part about aliens, their and ours tech, characters drama (especially Will's story!), action/shocking/beautiful scenes - I loved it all!
Bro, it's Netflix. They gonna cancel it. Or fire all the good writers by season 3 to save money, then cancel it after it becomes bad. it's Netflix dude. I'm so sorry the writers of Game of Thrones are gonna waste more years of your life....
We would love for you to meet your welcoming committee, I am pleased to introduce the Black Templars and Dark Angels. Oh is that xeno-tech you have there, yes that will need to be inspected by the Adeptus Mechanicus….
That's what I found particularly creepy, I caught myself buying into the aliens' narrative, empathising with them, before the sinister realisation comes that they've been manipulating or "priming" us.
@Thisisahandle701 That's the point. How many predators do you just attack their lunch? They wait or let the prey feel safe. That's what they are doing letting us think we can advance faster etc. The whole time they have been working against us by kissing ass and making us feel oh how smart you are.
@@Thisisahandle701 I'm not certain that's what's happening per se. These creatures aren't like humans at all, they're a much different species. Much of what's happening is a fundamental lack of communication. "You are bugs" isn't a threat despite the context. It also means that you are social creatures that should work together. This distortion doesn't come straight from the aliens, it comes from the Sophon playing out an algorithm. It's a time bomb they armed, but it isn't them. It's hal 9000. These buffers create chaos, they create confusion. The simulations suggest they almost all work as one, but there's still a leader, two scientists and then the players. That suggests some autonomy among them, and they snicker and coerce to get their way. They torture one another. They are a hive mind, but they don't always necessarily agree. I know where the books are going, but there's a subtle subtext that our communication is inherently faulty. We invited them, but was that necessarily wrong? In the 400 years of flight should we have tried a different tact? They get into defeatism, but deterrence only works so long. The three body problem has no solution, but that's inherently the issue. They asked the wrong question. With a thousand ships and advanced technology, fixing a planets orbit could've been done. The aliens dumb down the scenario for humans because they don't want to reveal their advanced technology, but had they, they may have realized that humans individual thinking might've solved their problems in their home world - and from the start, they have the means to communicate with THAT society. Fixing a planets orbit sounds insane, but there's moments where gravity is completely disturbed on the planet. It's in their symbol. You can fix the problem right there if you have 1000 ships. It's a beginning and an end point. If you solve the problem by changing the question, you change the whole scenario. In the end of the book series everyone does work together, with forces they've never met or even understand. The real horror here is that the predator and prey relationship is entirely circumstantial, you can be BOTH. In every decision they make where they frontload violence, it's proven to be largely moot. The boat attack was entirely unnecessary, they were supposed to see the drive. Where was the guy going with the drive? He wasn't trying to save it. He was trying to give it up to stop the attack. He was likely told to hand it over. That's a microcosm for every conflict. The rationalizations of killing one society for another only leads to self assured destruction, because you need each other. You need "more". In the end there's peace only in the mutual dying of every race, but finally they figure that out and leave behind something selflessly for everyone. ... had science not become a race to kill one another, it might've been a race to save everyone. That's the real horror here.
Except the San-Ti are up against predators as well-humans. There's a reason why we've remained at the top of the food chain for so long. Those aliens underestimate just how brutal and violent humans can be. They just haven't seen that side of us yet.
In the book, Tisolarus was ripped into two, the description of that and how they survived it was incredible, It took 96 million years for the planet (and its new moon) to round themselves and for civilizations to begin again. I wonder why they cut that part? They made alot of changes but seeing that part of the 3Body game would have been especially cool.
@@Mr.BednaR I'm going to be judged for everything I do and say, so I'll do and say as I please. Besides, if everyone feels that is wrong, they're free to remove their own door locks at any time. Why haven't they?
I really hope in this adaptation Jin gets to meet Will at some point of time in future… it was really heartbreaking to watch jin running to Will only to find out it was too late.. 😔
Or use the Sophons to build Star miners, and send one of the stars off to be a distant trinary? Then the San-Ti can move their own planet into a decent orbit around the two remaining.
Actually, Earth is the closest stable star systems. That is the point. Tinkering with the 3 stars is too dangerous a preposition when you in the 3 star system, even if you have the tech and I don't think being able to creat a sophons allows that level.
@@zollen123 Have a read about the Goldilocks Zone/habitable planets. Finding a habitable planet that's the correct distance from a sun is the difficulty (too close and it's too hot for life - too far and it's way too cold for life). Nearest potential habitable planet for us is estimated to be about 4.2 light years away and probably isn't even suitable.
They take 4 centuries to arrive, this means that in this time they can build another huge fleet and then another and then another. The first fleet is just the beginning.
One thing about this - was it had an answer for the Fermi Paradox. We couldn't hear anyone else - because they were all staying quiet so some other group didn't come blow them up - and - the ones who didn't stay quiet - had been blown up. .
But how does everyone know they have to remain quiet? Unless they've observed other civilizations get wiped out? Or even without having made the observation themselves, every single civilization reaches the same conclusion and chooses to hide? 🤔
@@antred11 imagina que el universo es un bosque oscuro y cada civilización es un cazador con algún tipo de arma, podrías ponerte un chaleco reflectante si... pero entonces los animales hambrientos te verían
@@antred11 The key is that if you guess wrong, your species dies. So if you guess there is nobody else out there, make noise, and you are wrong, then your species dies. If you assume other races out there are friendly and you are wrong, then your species dies. If you assume there are other races out there, at least one of them is hostile/genocidal, and keep quiet, then your species can survive. Assuming a Dark Forest situation, the safest move is to keep quiet and watch.
For anyone who hasn't read the books, I found they just kept progressively getting better. And by the end of the third one my mind was so blown, I had to have a cigarette and I don't even smoke.
It’s a minor detail, but Sophon casually declaring that this is the final hope of “civilization 9478” hit me like a truck when I first watched this. It took humans well over ten thousand years to even reach agricultural in a stable environment. How long must it have taken the San Ti to do it just once? Compounding that with all the other advancements they must have made, and taking close to 10,000 times to do it… it’s a ridiculously long timescale.
For a society that advanced I would think they would have tried to build colonies on other planets and moon, or create space stations to live until they found a planet not already occupied by an intelligent species. They have the technology to take a proton and make a computer out of it and send it to Earth for various reasons. They have the materials to build 1000 space ships. Seems they had other options.
So I went into this show with absolutely no context. I hadn’t seen anything, hadn’t read anything, didn’t see a trailer… All I knew was everyone kept saying it was good. So I watched it and this scene and the one where she sends the message to come gave me literal goosebumps as they revealed it was aliens.
There are no aliens in Dune, which is cool because seriously, there's a technologically advanced civilization 4 light years from Earth? Apparently living planets are like Starbucks in Seattle. One on every corner.
That's preposterous. There is definitely not life in every star system in this series. Far from it. There are, however, far more advanced civilizations than the Trisolarans. If Humanity is a 0.7 and the Trisolarans are a 1.5, then Singer's race who wields Dual-Vector Foil is a 5 or a 6. Same with the Zero-Homers. Both have apex technology with Dimension-Strike capabilities and are a big reason the universe is collapsing down from 10 dimensions to 0.
@@eternal_napalm6442 sure, and it all happens within the span of human existence. My point, again, is that sci-fi with advanced aliens devolves into absurdity. No different than unicorns and dragons.
Remember the first level, 8 days chaotic era, 63 years stable eras. With each new civilization, which they had to start over, they had only 63 years according to the game, to prepare for the next wipe out. As time progress and learning from their failures, SanTi found only solution to last longer is to find another star system, ours is a prime candidate. NASA and the likes has been truly investing in mega telescope for this reason, in case of major wipe out, finding a prime candidate star systems.
@@analienfromouterspace well the point of the game was to show you can't predict how long/short the chaotic or stable eras were, i'm pretty sure it varied far from 63 years. they simply got lucky on the most recent stable era and it lasted long enough for them to get this advanced. and they're leaving before the next one hits.
*SPOILERS* Pretty messed up that the Sophon used little Vera's face for this propaganda game while the actual Vera killed herself after finding out the truth about the Trisolarians.
I had a sneaky suspicion about that🤔 I've only seen this one clip, looking forward to now seeing the show, but when it was like "we only need 1 of you to live", it came off as a kind of a double bluff. Figured the younger version of her is dead and they're just trying to discourage her from seppuku.
quote from the film dark city comes to mind, "you were looking in the wrong place", meaning to me it's fundamentally "difficult" to relate across time and space for different beings, yet that is the essence of the journey itself. so here you could find this is just material, given TIME humans adapt to a counter-balance, given SPIRIT the experience itself becomes the challenge for the higher entities in reflection, there are always these various circumstances that can be achieved.. yet balance is unity in totality, the path leads to one.
i know it's not like that in this show becuz that can build things like sophons...but wouldn't it be funny if the plot is all scary and they say they'll be here in a few hundred years...when they get here with their whole fleet armed to the teeth, looking super powerful and scary, and it just cuts to the next scene where their ships are just tiny and hit some random dude's head and the dude just swats it away and says "ouch, get the hell outta here!!!"
Even though the Trisolarans aren't physically fully described in the book it is sort of implied that they might only be insect sized. It explains the dehydrate/rehydrate thing and living computer thing better. It's also sort of implied that the "YOU ARE BUGS" insult might be the Trisolarans projecting their insecurity onto the humans who they secretly fear.
OK, i've never read the books (which surprises me) so please forgive my ignorance, but given how advanced the Sang-Ti science and technologies are, why was Terraforming never an option?? They have quantum-twinned Sophons, they can unfold dimensions, they have star-destroying particles and even Interstellar travel. Why did they never attempt to find a world to terraform?
That's exactly the question I had - Mars and I think Venus are in the "golden area" around the sun, and suitable for terra forming. We have no claim on Venus, and little to Mars. Why not take one of those... no harm done. Assuming both the Shan-Ti and Humans are willing to play nice and get along...
They have access to certain technologies that are miracles by human standards, but those technologies have limitations, and are laser-focused in what they do. Just because they can create Sophons, doesn't mean they can tune a planet's magnetic field, or quickly fill its atmosphere with needed gasses. Terraforming, even with their technology, would take centuries. Also, even though they can travel interstellar distances, it's not an easy form of travel. It takes them 400 years to travel only a few light-years, and they'll need a great deal of supplies (especially water) to survive when they arrive. Add on to that their psychology and ideology, one that eschews art and beauty for cold pragmatism, and they won't settle for anything less than the paradise they suffer for. And one last point of order - they don't have star-destroying particles. But there are plenty of others out there in the Dark Forest who do, and they're always listening.
@@purplexeno819Its also made clear that our human understanding of Physics is wrong, tampered with by the Trisolarans and their Sophons. I suppose it would be easy ti assume that in the Trisolaran understanding of Physics, they know terraforming is impossible.
The intention, that most of us has to stay behind - but that´s alright - if one of us survive, we all survive -- to reach this level of dedication, commitment and sacrifices you have to be on a different level of understanding. I do not believe that we human would just say - oh, if one of us survive, we all survive...lol
It's not all that far out from reality, though. At the end of the day, everyone dies. If someone can live long enough to reproduce, the species lives on. And that's what matters.
Minor spoiler That's a huge plot point in the next two books/seasons haha. Rich people, governments, and organizations begin plans to build escape ships and humanity immediately starts fighting about who gets to leave. Wars almost start over it and the U.N. declares "escapism" a crime against humanity and says all resources must be put into planetary defense.
When some guy you hardly know gets evicted from his last apartment for selling weed and suddenly rings you out of the blue and tells you he is on his way to your house and needs somewhere to crash for awhile.
So in my head you'd just need the vectors of every object plus their relative velocity. But calculating that wasn't even possible for the shan-ti Dayum
I really liked this series. I also love the fact that this was based on a Chinese book. Def a new perspective on the sci-fi genre. I want MORE. Btw there’s another show with the same title. It’s… interesting. 😊
I just finished the books..if you haven't read them, you are not prepared for the consequences of Ye Wenjie pushing that button, I can't wait to see how this incredible story is adapted
I'm about to watch it after seeing this clip but at the same time... Its Netflix and they cancel shows on a whim so it is hard for people to get invested in these shows knowing that it'll probably get cancelled or its 4 years between seasons🤷🏽♂
I mean stories like this are way complicated. 90% of the population are down to Earth basic common sense and entertainment. Only a minority understood the complex science and details of a story. This is why in films you have majority into Disney products, Meg movies, and Pacific RIm 2 than a well-development and relatable medias.
This show has so many plot holes one could drive a tractor and semi truck trailer through but simpletons are easily impressed with garbage that uses big words to sound sophisticated.
@@MichaelPohoreski yea I enjoyed watching the show but there are a lot of obvious plot holes in it and they arent small ones. They're the type that kinda ruin the whole story. But its still enjoyable🤷🏽♂
I like that movie, but lying to someone is such a crap tactic because it always backfires. Imagine if Ender were an alien. ‘You lied to me and tried to manipulate me. You die. Game over’.
If you think the first part was awesome, wait for the dark forest. Better still read it - this is D&D, they have a reputation to screw up the final seasons ;-)
Based on the novel(3 books in the series) by Cixin Liu. The first season did include parts from books 2 and 3 as well. Although lots of changes with the adaptapion.
Spoiler Alert: In the second book(Which should be season 2), it will be revealed that the universe is teeming with life. Countless civilizations all competing with one another. The universe is like a dark forest filled with predators but each predator is an entirely advanced civilization. The San ti just happens to be our first contact and the nearest one. But there are others. So many others.
"And when you know your planet is doomed what si the solution?" "Built space habitats which can sustain far more people than a fleet. Long term,harvest the suns for material and energy"
Food for thought, if they had resources to build an interstellar fleet, why not stay in a long and distant orbit of the system and visit when it is non chaotic to replenish resource. Difficult but not doable with their technology. They won't have thought of interstellar travel, if we didn't invite, still other option sounds not so terrible.
They explained it in the scene. Their world could eventually be flung into interstellar space or collide with one of the stars. Since they can't calculate the 3 body problem there is no way for them to know.
This story doesn't make sense. 1. An alien civilization that has the technology that can control dimensions higher than the 3rd and manage interstellar travel should not have the need for a planet. They can create stations in space and thrive there. 2. I know the three body problem is unsolvable in the long run, but a race that advanced should be able to discover the math to predict periods of stability. For instance, break down the orbit calculations/predictions into smaller pieces at given intervals of time. That way, as time progresses, the predictions will change. Variables are time, location, and the gravitational forces.
In this series, you cannot just go waltzing around anywhere in space. Every civilization in the universe is hostile. You have to breathe with care, let alone building massive empires and stations. Also, resources are finite and the San-Ti aren't anywhere near as advanced as other species (Singer's race and the Zero-Homers)
@@eternal_napalm6442 unless the Santi are being held prisoner by other civilizations in their home planet and this fleet coming to earth are fleeing from them, then they should be able to find plenty of asteroids to mine and form new homes in.
@@AdagioPhoenix The issue isn't to solve the 3 body problem, it is the survival of their species. Even if they can predict the movement of their planet, the 3 body problems make their planet barely habitable and their make technological advancement very slow. The series doesn't explore that a lot for now, you will get more information on season 2. @eternal_napalm6442 already kinda spoiled you. But they can't really makes massive infrastructures without getting noticed. About Earth invasion, once they learned mankind existence, especially being this close, they had to destroy it. As it is said in the latter episodes, they are unable to progress as fast as humans does, in few centuries humans will be more technologically advanced than the Santi. They can't let us live, it is too much risk for them. But since, they need another planet, their goal isn't just to kill us, it is take to Earth as home. So they can't just destroy or ravage Earth, which would usually be the thing to do in their situation. They have to keep Earth good. That makes things less easy for them that it would be otherwise. That will lead to a lot of interesting consequences. This is well explained and logical in book 2 and 3, don't worry.
If they had the typical Earth mammal type of biology, then yes. But there are these little things on Earth called tardigrades - which can live in vacuum and survive a lot of conditions that ordinary mammals can not. So it's possible that the San Ti are similiar, with tardigrade like biology.
@@wnose It is sort of implied in the books that they might only be insect sized which also makes the living computer thing more understandable. The "YOU ARE BUGS" insult might be them projecting their own insecurity onto the humans, which has been a fan theory for a few years.
Great series but the massive hole in the whole story is that if they are a space faring civilization then it doesn't matter what happens to the planet they will survive given the level of technology shown.
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Little "Vera" so pretty and frightening at the same time.
That line "we can't wait to meet you" is so ominous. Perfect delivery.
She is a cute kid and good actress. Did the cute but creepy kid thing perfect.
es aterrador pensar en que su propia madre (o talvez su padre) la creo en ese juego solo para morir dolorosamente, una y otra y otra vez, rogando que la salven
@@percivaldarkus3537 Well, the ETO merely used the image of "Vera" to create a NPC in the game.
why is she frightening she get's killed everytime
Please don’t take too long to release season two it’s soo good
The scale of season 2 must be so wild! Sht is about to hit the fan!
Don’t get your hopes too high for a season 2. With the ratings & the review scores & the budget & Netflix being Netflix, this show has a decent shot of being a Season 1 and done.
Its likely going to be at least till 2026 😢 bit the scope is extraordinary, all three books span millions of years 😮
@@jimhsfbaywasnt it number 1 in america?
@@KingCrimson82 Netflix uses unknown internal metrics to decide whether or not to renew a show. They have canceled a bunch of sci-fi & fantasy shows that were #1 in the US at some point.
Ah classic humanity call into the void then the void answers back
Then act all "pikachu surprise face😲" when the Void gives back a _less than desirable_ answer😈👽
Well said..
@@Maya_Ruinzwell the first answer was „do Not answer“
Praise the sun!! 🙌
Who would have a thought right
It’s funny how the Shan-ti make it seem like they’re just refugees looking for a new place to live, but at the end of the season you know they are conquerors, and their intentions are nothing but hostile
Yep. The helmet game was basically a recruitment tool. None of the cultists understood what their true intentions were.
It is strongly implied that they wanted to leave parts of humanity alone, but changed their mind when they learned about lies
I haven't read the book, the Chinese tencent version says they won't allow humans to procreate.
That’s not entirely accurate, they are just refugees, but they are scared of humans and thus cannot imagine coexistence with them.
exactly like the Jews 💀
Impressed by the performance of the child actor in this scene.
Better than ricks son in the new walking dead for damn sure 🤣
@@wintergreen2.073 dude he got 5 seconds of screen time lol
That kid is good. Pulled the sweet and innocent act well.
Thats an AI
Variety has named it the number 1 show of the week with 1.6 billion minutes viewed. I hope Netflix will start season 2 soon! Thanks Netflix! Great show!
it's gonna take a year at least, chill
After rewatching this scene, I realized they really can't lie. They did believe they were invited.
They can't lie in their native language: It is implied that they have some sort of super-fast optical form of "speech" which directly translates their thoughts to information. Thus they cannot have an internal dialogue separate from their communication. The instant they think the word, it is spoken.
But they learned to do it through text/speech eventually...
@@RainbowDevourer i thought it was that they literally didn't understand the concept of deception until a human described it to them. isn't this scene from before that?
@@heck6225 in the Netflix show, kind of. In the Chinese show and book it’s a bit more fleshed out. It’s more that their communication and their thought is the same so they didn’t initially understand the implications between separating thought and communication, and lying can be part of that. But they understand lying, their entire plan for Earth is based upon deception. It’s that they didn’t initially understand a distinction between communication and thought. It’s a subtle difference but also a big one.
But they *were* invited. Ye Wenjie literally said to come to earth and conquer it.
@@thedemonhater7748 Yep. She was warned, and went ahead and called them.
For a second there, I thought Follower said, "We can't wait to eat you"! I had to turn on captions to be sure.
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@@f000ghkis this like an actual spoiler? Actually don’t tell me lol I haven’t read the book at all.
@@f000ghkIt's a cook book!
No the Trisolarians don't eat people 😂 but they did reduce the population by a lot
Sweet summer child... They will not be the ones eating...
An ultimate invasion [passive aggression] series. The alien girl sounds so polite and cordial with a sinister plan to enslave and conquer humanity.
too bad we cant have an invasion now in this highly volatile time.
she is just a small alien child. in the books, They read human fairy tales because they do not have literature like humans and have the scientists read to their children. They don't understand metaphors.
If san-ti can't decieve that means they were peaceful before the old guy spilled the beans that humans can lie
@@Kj99xone of the main themes of the book/show is that humanity would be incapable of peace if we were invaded by entities from another world so peace was never an option to begin with
The main theme of the books was that the universe out there was extremely hostile. That was the reason why the universe was silent for so long. Once the location of a civilization was known, it would inevitably be wiped out and replaced. The San-ti's did not speak with one voice and the first response to Ye Wenjie's message as shown in the show was from a San-ti telling her not to answer because it would be the end of humanity.
An absolutely mindbending series that immediatly gave off a Childhood's End vibe! MUST HAVE MORE!!!!
It's far better than that childhoods end show that came out on scifi my guy. Give it some credit loll
Cixin Liu named Childhood's End as the number one inspiration for the Three Body trilogy!
Season 1 (the first book) is meant to be an introduction to Season 2 and 3 which get a lot more wilder. If you thought season 1 was too much, just wait and see.
I agree. I haven't read the books yet, but I came across information regarding the photoids, singers, and 2D vector bombs
Zero-Homer death lines ☠️☠️
They won't get three seasons
@@B2Roland they've already been confirmed. How can you be so loud and so wrong my guy?
Supersolid shiny machines, and star destroying particles in the second one. Wild when I first read them.
Ooh boy, it's not gonna be a "we come in peace" moment.
they really are..until the red riding hood story happens
They were never coming in Peace. Perhaps to their followers but they planned on eradicating the rest of humanity. The Dark Forest Hypothesis.
I think originally their plan to conquer humanity would’ve probably led to them just subjugating us, but after learning about lies they concluded that we couldn’t live with them.
If you aren’t into the books’ story line you are in for one hell of a treat. I’m don’t know if they will get into it next season but they have already merged the three book storylines so maybe they will…it’s pretty gnarly.
It might've been... until they realized humans can lie lmao
Why do I have a feeling those who were left behind on the trisolar planets are the "undeserved" and "unaligned" ones left to be doomed rather than volunteers or resource limitations
nope. Sounds like something we'd do. While I'm not certain what criteria they used to choose who was on those ships, I can assure you that the vast majority of their world is of one mind in the sense that they're unified. Their species is beyond desperate, especially when any of the 'chaotic eras' could literally be their last one.
@@mandasity I don't buy it. Even the first alien we contacted was like "Bro, don't message back, the others will take over."
On a basic level variety in a species and a society is vital for survival through many different circumstances. I think a dissenting voice is inevitable in any intelligent, social species. Even if the Trisolarans aren't individually minded like we are I would be shocked if there wasn't a group that opposed the decision to conquer Earth and even resisted. I like OP's idea that the Trisolarans left the pacifist faction behind to their fate.
I've forgotten so much of the book, need to reread, but I remember having the impression our view of the Trisolarans is very skewed by how and why we meet them.
@@forrestpenrod2294 the book showed the one listener as a dissident, and mentions 2 periods of time where their civilization was closer to mirroring ours. Everything else you just said is your own words and has no basis in the books. It's logical sure and a valid point too, despite the fact that you're making assumptions of how a potentially infinite number of varying societies might look based off of a single solitary data point :P, but there is literally no more elaboration than the one dude and the two periods of time. 1 was in the past the 'princeps' (leader) of their world explained to the listener. The second was when *SPOILER* during the period before the fleet arrives when both cultures started adopting qualities of the other's, but it is also implied that a degree of it was just more deception on their part. I can't argue that it's a pleasant thought to see ourselves in other societies though.. it would be comforting to find that kinship.
No. They evolved to accept sacrifice. The entire concept of "resource limitation" is one axiom of why every civilization in the cosmos is hostile towards one another, though.
@@forrestpenrod2294 Yes, the Listener can't be unique. He may even be in the majority. But as the opening of the book/show reminds us, good individuals are at the mercy of cruel regimes.
Highest level of science fiction I've seen put film in my life. Can't think of anything that comes close. Brilliant, reading book also.
Interstellar?
@@Kumire_921 forgot that, good call.
Try star wars.. Hahahaha jokes
The Expanse?
its pretty high it made me so excited at many parts but you definitely need to watch more, there is plenty of great scifi content out there
Netflix, PLEASE! Approve season 2! The series are GREAT! Solid 8/10, I wanted to give 9 but... It's almost there
Please, don't cancel the show, it's really good: sci-fi part about aliens, their and ours tech, characters drama (especially Will's story!), action/shocking/beautiful scenes - I loved it all!
Bro, it's Netflix. They gonna cancel it. Or fire all the good writers by season 3 to save money, then cancel it after it becomes bad. it's Netflix dude. I'm so sorry the writers of Game of Thrones are gonna waste more years of your life....
@@KbearMcYumYums more like turn it into a story about white man bad
Its a good show so its obviously going to get canceled.
@@boss_niko safe to say with Netflix
Good doesn't always equal popular, hard sf is niche genre.
They reached earth only to find it heavily armed protected by the god emperor.
Can't wait to see "God Emperor's Navy" facing the droplet. A misanthrope's dream spectacle.
Ave Imperator
The Emperor protects!
Long live terra
We would love for you to meet your welcoming committee, I am pleased to introduce the Black Templars and Dark Angels. Oh is that xeno-tech you have there, yes that will need to be inspected by the Adeptus Mechanicus….
Seeing the fleet and then it shoot off was so damn chilling
"We can't wait to meet you!" was the most chilling part.
The series teaches how to prepare your prey psychologically and socially to welcome its predators...
That's what I found particularly creepy, I caught myself buying into the aliens' narrative, empathising with them, before the sinister realisation comes that they've been manipulating or "priming" us.
@Thisisahandle701 That's the point. How many predators do you just attack their lunch? They wait or let the prey feel safe. That's what they are doing letting us think we can advance faster etc. The whole time they have been working against us by kissing ass and making us feel oh how smart you are.
@@Thisisahandle701 I'm not certain that's what's happening per se.
These creatures aren't like humans at all, they're a much different species. Much of what's happening is a fundamental lack of communication.
"You are bugs" isn't a threat despite the context. It also means that you are social creatures that should work together. This distortion doesn't come straight from the aliens, it comes from the Sophon playing out an algorithm. It's a time bomb they armed, but it isn't them. It's hal 9000.
These buffers create chaos, they create confusion. The simulations suggest they almost all work as one, but there's still a leader, two scientists and then the players. That suggests some autonomy among them, and they snicker and coerce to get their way. They torture one another.
They are a hive mind, but they don't always necessarily agree.
I know where the books are going, but there's a subtle subtext that our communication is inherently faulty. We invited them, but was that necessarily wrong? In the 400 years of flight should we have tried a different tact?
They get into defeatism, but deterrence only works so long. The three body problem has no solution, but that's inherently the issue. They asked the wrong question.
With a thousand ships and advanced technology, fixing a planets orbit could've been done.
The aliens dumb down the scenario for humans because they don't want to reveal their advanced technology, but had they, they may have realized that humans individual thinking might've solved their problems in their home world - and from the start, they have the means to communicate with THAT society.
Fixing a planets orbit sounds insane, but there's moments where gravity is completely disturbed on the planet. It's in their symbol. You can fix the problem right there if you have 1000 ships. It's a beginning and an end point. If you solve the problem by changing the question, you change the whole scenario.
In the end of the book series everyone does work together, with forces they've never met or even understand.
The real horror here is that the predator and prey relationship is entirely circumstantial, you can be BOTH.
In every decision they make where they frontload violence, it's proven to be largely moot. The boat attack was entirely unnecessary, they were supposed to see the drive. Where was the guy going with the drive?
He wasn't trying to save it. He was trying to give it up to stop the attack. He was likely told to hand it over.
That's a microcosm for every conflict.
The rationalizations of killing one society for another only leads to self assured destruction, because you need each other. You need "more". In the end there's peace only in the mutual dying of every race, but finally they figure that out and leave behind something selflessly for everyone.
... had science not become a race to kill one another, it might've been a race to save everyone.
That's the real horror here.
This is exactly how we treat animals that are being farmed. It's awful
Except the San-Ti are up against predators as well-humans. There's a reason why we've remained at the top of the food chain for so long. Those aliens underestimate just how brutal and violent humans can be. They just haven't seen that side of us yet.
Whereas Dany kinda forgot about the San-Ti fleet and Sophon’s forces, they didn’t forget about her.
In the book, Tisolarus was ripped into two, the description of that and how they survived it was incredible, It took 96 million years for the planet (and its new moon) to round themselves and for civilizations to begin again. I wonder why they cut that part? They made alot of changes but seeing that part of the 3Body game would have been especially cool.
2:28 they look at each other like "I'm not racist but......"
"Why uncontrolled migration is not a good idea" 😂😂
@@Mr.BednaR Fr, I like to know something about people before inviting them into my home.
@logicplague unpopular stance in 2024 😂
@@Mr.BednaR I'm going to be judged for everything I do and say, so I'll do and say as I please. Besides, if everyone feels that is wrong, they're free to remove their own door locks at any time. Why haven't they?
I really hope in this adaptation Jin gets to meet Will at some point of time in future… it was really heartbreaking to watch jin running to Will only to find out it was too late.. 😔
Yes they met according to the book
Kind of.. but the circumstances are more mind blowing and shocking
@@DaddyBear205 I heard somewhere they never actually meet in the books..
@@suvamk
Yeah not face to face.
@@eternal_napalm6442
Spoilers homie. Delete this comment.
These advanced aliens would have already colonized the nearby stable star systems around their unstable home. That would be an invasion force.
Or use the Sophons to build Star miners, and send one of the stars off to be a distant trinary? Then the San-Ti can move their own planet into a decent orbit around the two remaining.
Actually, Earth is the closest stable star systems. That is the point. Tinkering with the 3 stars is too dangerous a preposition when you in the 3 star system, even if you have the tech and I don't think being able to creat a sophons allows that level.
@@biocapsule7311 Impossible, there got to be a lot of single star or twin stars systems near their home system.
@@zollen123 Have a read about the Goldilocks Zone/habitable planets. Finding a habitable planet that's the correct distance from a sun is the difficulty (too close and it's too hot for life - too far and it's way too cold for life). Nearest potential habitable planet for us is estimated to be about 4.2 light years away and probably isn't even suitable.
@@laura47311 These aliens don't need all the right conditions as we human would need. They are advance enough to survive with a stable system.
they'll get here before GRRM finishes winds of winter
...that level of savagery was uncalled for
They take 4 centuries to arrive, this means that in this time they can build another huge fleet and then another and then another. The first fleet is just the beginning.
no they can't, they are traveling too fast
@@playerx2006 only a fraction is on the fleet. The bulk of the population stayed on the planet.
@@gioilcreatore3547 oh thought you meant from the fleet make more fleets lol
yeah, that's exactly what happens later
@gioilcreatore3547 ... to die?
One thing about this - was it had an answer for the Fermi Paradox.
We couldn't hear anyone else - because they were all staying quiet so some other group didn't come blow them up - and - the ones who didn't stay quiet - had been blown up.
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But how does everyone know they have to remain quiet? Unless they've observed other civilizations get wiped out? Or even without having made the observation themselves, every single civilization reaches the same conclusion and chooses to hide? 🤔
Even Singer found it interesting we didn't have the hiding gene lol.
@@antred11 imagina que el universo es un bosque oscuro y cada civilización es un cazador con algún tipo de arma, podrías ponerte un chaleco reflectante si... pero entonces los animales hambrientos te verían
@@antred11 The key is that if you guess wrong, your species dies. So if you guess there is nobody else out there, make noise, and you are wrong, then your species dies. If you assume other races out there are friendly and you are wrong, then your species dies. If you assume there are other races out there, at least one of them is hostile/genocidal, and keep quiet, then your species can survive.
Assuming a Dark Forest situation, the safest move is to keep quiet and watch.
@@antred11 It's the theory of the Dark Forest. Nobody knows they have to remain quiet, but it can be inferred that it is the best option.
In season two the only one to welcome them would be bran the broken.
Hodor !
You guys are so unserious😂
"You'll welcome us, won't you?" Yeah, a lot can happen in 400 years lol
For anyone who hasn't read the books, I found they just kept progressively getting better. And by the end of the third one my mind was so blown, I had to have a cigarette and I don't even smoke.
It’s a minor detail, but Sophon casually declaring that this is the final hope of “civilization 9478” hit me like a truck when I first watched this.
It took humans well over ten thousand years to even reach agricultural in a stable environment. How long must it have taken the San Ti to do it just once? Compounding that with all the other advancements they must have made, and taking close to 10,000 times to do it… it’s a ridiculously long timescale.
si uno sobrevive, todos sobreviven
no es solo su estilo de vida... es su biología
Tens of millions of years, according to the book.
For a society that advanced I would think they would have tried to build colonies on other planets and moon, or create space stations to live until they found a planet not already occupied by an intelligent species. They have the technology to take a proton and make a computer out of it and send it to Earth for various reasons. They have the materials to build 1000 space ships. Seems they had other options.
So I went into this show with absolutely no context. I hadn’t seen anything, hadn’t read anything, didn’t see a trailer… All I knew was everyone kept saying it was good. So I watched it and this scene and the one where she sends the message to come gave me literal goosebumps as they revealed it was aliens.
Lisan al gaib will give them a good welcome...as written
There are no aliens in Dune, which is cool because seriously, there's a technologically advanced civilization 4 light years from Earth? Apparently living planets are like Starbucks in Seattle. One on every corner.
San-Ti left behind be like: lead us to paradise
That's preposterous. There is definitely not life in every star system in this series. Far from it. There are, however, far more advanced civilizations than the Trisolarans. If Humanity is a 0.7 and the Trisolarans are a 1.5, then Singer's race who wields Dual-Vector Foil is a 5 or a 6. Same with the Zero-Homers. Both have apex technology with Dimension-Strike capabilities and are a big reason the universe is collapsing down from 10 dimensions to 0.
@@eternal_napalm6442 sure, and it all happens within the span of human existence. My point, again, is that sci-fi with advanced aliens devolves into absurdity. No different than unicorns and dragons.
@TestUser-cf4wj Yes. Science Fiction is indeed Fiction.
Sophon has a nice voice.
Easy on the eye, too. :D
I think the actress is perfect for this role. She is calm, but also menacing at the same time.
Does that mean there were 946 previous civilizations before them that all got wiped out?
Civilization 9478, so increase that number there a tad
Remember the first level, 8 days chaotic era, 63 years stable eras. With each new civilization, which they had to start over, they had only 63 years according to the game, to prepare for the next wipe out. As time progress and learning from their failures, SanTi found only solution to last longer is to find another star system, ours is a prime candidate.
NASA and the likes has been truly investing in mega telescope for this reason, in case of major wipe out, finding a prime candidate star systems.
@@analienfromouterspace well the point of the game was to show you can't predict how long/short the chaotic or stable eras were, i'm pretty sure it varied far from 63 years. they simply got lucky on the most recent stable era and it lasted long enough for them to get this advanced. and they're leaving before the next one hits.
*SPOILERS*
Pretty messed up that the Sophon used little Vera's face for this propaganda game while the actual Vera killed herself after finding out the truth about the Trisolarians.
What's the truth of the trisolorians?
@@Kopie0830 They want to do genocide, it's planet earth they need not us...
I had a sneaky suspicion about that🤔 I've only seen this one clip, looking forward to now seeing the show, but when it was like "we only need 1 of you to live", it came off as a kind of a double bluff. Figured the younger version of her is dead and they're just trying to discourage her from seppuku.
@@Kopie0830 they are emotionless survivalists, our existence means nothing to them
@@Kopie0830 just google the dark forest hypothesis.
An extraordinary SCI-FI series ever, kindly release S-2 fast
Exceptional series, hope they do the second and third series to finish out the trilogy 🤞
"And then Dany kind of forgot about the Trisolaran invasion fleet..."
This part brings chills
Humans: Ur coming here to be our friend right? RIGHT?
Aliens: 🙂
Of course. How could we not be friends when you are such a lovely and friendly bunch?
"...sure. why not"
Right?
quote from the film dark city comes to mind, "you were looking in the wrong place", meaning to me it's fundamentally "difficult" to relate across time and space for different beings, yet that is the essence of the journey itself. so here you could find this is just material, given TIME humans adapt to a counter-balance, given SPIRIT the experience itself becomes the challenge for the higher entities in reflection, there are always these various circumstances that can be achieved.. yet balance is unity in totality, the path leads to one.
i know it's not like that in this show becuz that can build things like sophons...but wouldn't it be funny if the plot is all scary and they say they'll be here in a few hundred years...when they get here with their whole fleet armed to the teeth, looking super powerful and scary, and it just cuts to the next scene where their ships are just tiny and hit some random dude's head and the dude just swats it away and says "ouch, get the hell outta here!!!"
Even though the Trisolarans aren't physically fully described in the book it is sort of implied that they might only be insect sized. It explains the dehydrate/rehydrate thing and living computer thing better. It's also sort of implied that the "YOU ARE BUGS" insult might be the Trisolarans projecting their insecurity onto the humans who they secretly fear.
OK, i've never read the books (which surprises me) so please forgive my ignorance, but given how advanced the Sang-Ti science and technologies are, why was Terraforming never an option?? They have quantum-twinned Sophons, they can unfold dimensions, they have star-destroying particles and even Interstellar travel. Why did they never attempt to find a world to terraform?
That's exactly the question I had - Mars and I think Venus are in the "golden area" around the sun, and suitable for terra forming. We have no claim on Venus, and little to Mars. Why not take one of those... no harm done. Assuming both the Shan-Ti and Humans are willing to play nice and get along...
They have access to certain technologies that are miracles by human standards, but those technologies have limitations, and are laser-focused in what they do. Just because they can create Sophons, doesn't mean they can tune a planet's magnetic field, or quickly fill its atmosphere with needed gasses. Terraforming, even with their technology, would take centuries.
Also, even though they can travel interstellar distances, it's not an easy form of travel. It takes them 400 years to travel only a few light-years, and they'll need a great deal of supplies (especially water) to survive when they arrive. Add on to that their psychology and ideology, one that eschews art and beauty for cold pragmatism, and they won't settle for anything less than the paradise they suffer for.
And one last point of order - they don't have star-destroying particles. But there are plenty of others out there in the Dark Forest who do, and they're always listening.
@@purplexeno819Its also made clear that our human understanding of Physics is wrong, tampered with by the Trisolarans and their Sophons. I suppose it would be easy ti assume that in the Trisolaran understanding of Physics, they know terraforming is impossible.
They should have just told them about the other earth type planets we've found, and told them to go there lol
The intention, that most of us has to stay behind - but that´s alright - if one of us survive, we all survive -- to reach this level of dedication, commitment and sacrifices you have to be on a different level of understanding. I do not believe that we human would just say - oh, if one of us survive, we all survive...lol
It's not all that far out from reality, though. At the end of the day, everyone dies. If someone can live long enough to reproduce, the species lives on. And that's what matters.
I wonder where the human who wrote 3 Body Problem got the idea of honourable sacrifice for the greater good
"The greater good" LOL
Minor spoiler
That's a huge plot point in the next two books/seasons haha. Rich people, governments, and organizations begin plans to build escape ships and humanity immediately starts fighting about who gets to leave. Wars almost start over it and the U.N. declares "escapism" a crime against humanity and says all resources must be put into planetary defense.
...sounds like a virus to be fair 😶
All i heard was "we cant wait to eat you" 😂😂😂
This is the annunakis story basically. Pleadians had to fix everything they messed up
When some guy you hardly know gets evicted from his last apartment for selling weed and suddenly rings you out of the blue and tells you he is on his way to your house and needs somewhere to crash for awhile.
Samwell Tarley spends the entire next episode researching the 3 Body problem at the Maester's Citadel in Oldtown
So in my head you'd just need the vectors of every object plus their relative velocity.
But calculating that wasn't even possible for the shan-ti
Dayum
The book states that the SanTi proved there was no solution to their 3 body.
I really liked this series. I also love the fact that this was based on a Chinese book. Def a new perspective on the sci-fi genre. I want MORE.
Btw there’s another show with the same title. It’s… interesting. 😊
All you would need is ships in the sky and humanity would tear itself to pieces😂 Doesn't even have to be a fight
We need to get our Battlestars out of the museum.
The irony being they have the technology to save their own planet.
Just about to finish dark forest need season2
I just finished the books..if you haven't read them, you are not prepared for the consequences of Ye Wenjie pushing that button, I can't wait to see how this incredible story is adapted
Ikr, am in the 3rd book & am just getting mind blown. Its freaking awesome.
Very good series.. Can't wait for season 2
Can anyone tell me the name of the OST the plays from half way through the clip?
Thank you!
I have this book, it's an amazing story.
I have a feeling alot of people are misunderstanding this show or under appreciating it. The premise is amazing and time will judge this show fairly.
I'm about to watch it after seeing this clip but at the same time... Its Netflix and they cancel shows on a whim so it is hard for people to get invested in these shows knowing that it'll probably get cancelled or its 4 years between seasons🤷🏽♂
@@ICU1337The show just came out, so cancellation depends on how well this season does.
I mean stories like this are way complicated. 90% of the population are down to Earth basic common sense and entertainment. Only a minority understood the complex science and details of a story. This is why in films you have majority into Disney products, Meg movies, and Pacific RIm 2 than a well-development and relatable medias.
This show has so many plot holes one could drive a tractor and semi truck trailer through but simpletons are easily impressed with garbage that uses big words to sound sophisticated.
@@MichaelPohoreski yea I enjoyed watching the show but there are a lot of obvious plot holes in it and they arent small ones. They're the type that kinda ruin the whole story.
But its still enjoyable🤷🏽♂
Just waiting for John Snow to sort it out 😂😂😂
I hope they don't cancel this show and renew it for next seasons. I am still not over the Netflix for cancelling Mindhunter.
Civilization 9478, allow me to introduce you to Species 8472.
is that the Moonfall guy?
yea he is the game of thrones guy
No, it's Samwell Tarly!
Wait, if by every apocalypse they start again, how do they remember the past generations, and how do they understand that it’d happen again?
It’s shown in both the series and the books, they dehydrate until the next stable era comes.
What I don't understand is if they are so advanced why can't they just find other planets
地球距离三体最近，我们是邻居
The solution is a curse, a 3D map lolol
There is this story, and the importance of Ender's Game!
I like that movie, but lying to someone is such a crap tactic because it always backfires. Imagine if Ender were an alien. ‘You lied to me and tried to manipulate me. You die. Game over’.
@@claudiamanta1943 Yep, pretty much.
I used to crush on the San ti before my first lap dance.
This series feels like when Disney remakes German folktale.
When they touch the ground.. it reminds me of the more recent Tron movie where Flin uses his powers by touching the ground.
I can’t reconcile this with the books
Why is this cropped?
1:11 reinforce your planet
The Guardian looks like Chloe Lamour.
EDIT: Everyone who likes is naughty 😂
If no computer can predict the behaviour of three bodies indefinitely then why not just get three computers for each body? :D
Which scene is this???is it from season 1 or is it a teaser for s2???
season 1.
This is a scene from season 2000.
You told them where we were !!!!! The WoW signal was an acknowledgement of reception.... They are coming....
such a dope show lets gooooo
If you think the first part was awesome, wait for the dark forest. Better still read it - this is D&D, they have a reputation to screw up the final seasons ;-)
What series is this ?
3 Body Problem
Based on the novel(3 books in the series) by Cixin Liu. The first season did include parts from books 2 and 3 as well.
Although lots of changes with the adaptapion.
Dude made the exact same scene in moonfall...
If they were able to build protons and light speed spacecrafts I’m pretty sure they can take a planet at will
Spoiler Alert:
In the second book(Which should be season 2), it will be revealed that the universe is teeming with life. Countless civilizations all competing with one another. The universe is like a dark forest filled with predators but each predator is an entirely advanced civilization. The San ti just happens to be our first contact and the nearest one. But there are others. So many others.
I really have to make time to watch The Show.I love the box
"And when you know your planet is doomed what si the solution?"
"Built space habitats which can sustain far more people than a fleet. Long term,harvest the suns for material and energy"
The suns in that system are the problem. They'll need a stable system for resources and sustainability.
@@louisuchihatm2556 if they have drives for interstellar travel they can easily keep station
@@brll5733 TriSolarians are not infinitely technologically advanced. They are literally taking 450+ years to get to earth just 4ish light years away.
@@louisuchihatm2556 So? As long as you have fusion, you are basically set. You can harvest endless hydrogen from the suns
Civilization number 9478. Let that soak in.
I'm sure I wasn't the only one looking for "teardrop shaped objects" 🤣🤣
Nothing to worry about them, must be a peace offer of some kind.
@@mrsupremegascon
Surely it is not more durable than anything in the Solar system.
Gonna get probed!
Wishful thinking, sweethearts.
@@claudiamanta1943 😆
Food for thought, if they had resources to build an interstellar fleet, why not stay in a long and distant orbit of the system and visit when it is non chaotic to replenish resource. Difficult but not doable with their technology. They won't have thought of interstellar travel, if we didn't invite, still other option sounds not so terrible.
They explained it in the scene. Their world could eventually be flung into interstellar space or collide with one of the stars. Since they can't calculate the 3 body problem there is no way for them to know.
That would make to much sense for this series 😂
This story doesn't make sense.
1. An alien civilization that has the technology that can control dimensions higher than the 3rd and manage interstellar travel should not have the need for a planet. They can create stations in space and thrive there.
2. I know the three body problem is unsolvable in the long run, but a race that advanced should be able to discover the math to predict periods of stability. For instance, break down the orbit calculations/predictions into smaller pieces at given intervals of time. That way, as time progresses, the predictions will change. Variables are time, location, and the gravitational forces.
In this series, you cannot just go waltzing around anywhere in space. Every civilization in the universe is hostile. You have to breathe with care, let alone building massive empires and stations. Also, resources are finite and the San-Ti aren't anywhere near as advanced as other species (Singer's race and the Zero-Homers)
@@eternal_napalm6442 unless the Santi are being held prisoner by other civilizations in their home planet and this fleet coming to earth are fleeing from them, then they should be able to find plenty of asteroids to mine and form new homes in.
This is impossible due to the Dark Forest Hypothesis and the Chain of Suspicion.
@@AdagioPhoenix
The issue isn't to solve the 3 body problem, it is the survival of their species. Even if they can predict the movement of their planet, the 3 body problems make their planet barely habitable and their make technological advancement very slow.
The series doesn't explore that a lot for now, you will get more information on season 2.
@eternal_napalm6442 already kinda spoiled you. But they can't really makes massive infrastructures without getting noticed.
About Earth invasion, once they learned mankind existence, especially being this close, they had to destroy it.
As it is said in the latter episodes, they are unable to progress as fast as humans does, in few centuries humans will be more technologically advanced than the Santi. They can't let us live, it is too much risk for them.
But since, they need another planet, their goal isn't just to kill us, it is take to Earth as home. So they can't just destroy or ravage Earth, which would usually be the thing to do in their situation. They have to keep Earth good. That makes things less easy for them that it would be otherwise.
That will lead to a lot of interesting consequences.
This is well explained and logical in book 2 and 3, don't worry.
Anyone else notice its Jack and Jin like Jack and Jill went up the hill but Jack fell down and broke his crown 🤔 interesting
Cant wait to see yhe 'droplet scene' in season2
Was that a Starbucks cup on the ground?
😂
when?
Now my question is how a living can live in such an unstable planet system? Eventhough this is a sci fi book/series, it is highly unlikely isn't it?
If they had the typical Earth mammal type of biology, then yes. But there are these little things on Earth called tardigrades - which can live in vacuum and survive a lot of conditions that ordinary mammals can not. So it's possible that the San Ti are similiar, with tardigrade like biology.
@@wnose It is sort of implied in the books that they might only be insect sized which also makes the living computer thing more understandable. The "YOU ARE BUGS" insult might be them projecting their own insecurity onto the humans, which has been a fan theory for a few years.
i watched all episode. SUPERS. 🌞🌀🌞🌞
i like jin
They reached Earth only to find out Lauren Boebert is its Queen-Empress. So they just flee again
so that's it huh, we some kinda "three body problem?"
Humanity thinking alien colonisers will be peaceful ....... 🤔😈🤣
Great series but the massive hole in the whole story is that if they are a space faring civilization then it doesn't matter what happens to the planet they will survive given the level of technology shown.
They aren't a space faring civilization. That is why they have a planetary problem.