Yankees or Mets: Bigger threat to the World Series? | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Stephen A. Smith and Chris "Mad Dog" Russo are on First Take debating who the bigger threat to the World Series will be.
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I really really wish Undisputed would talk about baseball like this. I think alot of Networks underestimate how many people, including younger people, still do care about baseball.
Undisputed just talks about lebron and Tom Brady
So I’m a sports fanatic I love every sport because that’s what I love but baseball….. it’s still run by people who believe in the “Old Way” where pitches can be prissy girls who get mad at home runs or can literally beam you with a baseball upwards of 90 MPH no one wants to watch or listen to that honestly
Steph A. just explained why they don't. You need theater.
I here you but baseball is more of old people sport than young people sport
100% agree. I’d also include NHL as well. Most people are tired of them beating the same old NFL and NBA topics to death
Great to see MLB talk in ESPN.
BARELY.
And surprise-surprise, it was MOSTLY about New York. 😒
Said this once and I’ll say it again… When First Take talks baseball it’s the best part of first take. Now all they have to do is talk about more then the New York teams
The only reason they're talking about baseball is because it's the Yankees and the Mets, who are both New York teams. Stephen A only ever talks baseball when it's about the Yankees because they're his team. First Take still leans mostly towards the NFL and NBA.
No Stephen A only talks about baseball when he can talk about how much he hates baseball
@@UnbreakableKDL I agree and He's know Baseball it not his thing anyways When it comes to the pro Baseball League became a tainted league.
The Empire State Propaganda Network drones on and on about New York teams all of the time without much merit because A: Local ratings, and B: They're regional HOMERS.
Think about it... they go on and on every preseason about the Jets; a team that hasn't even BEEN to a Super Bowl in over 50-years less won one. Same with the Giants, although they have at least had more success. The Knicks... 🤣 Same as the Jets. And the Mets haven't won a WS since '86, and they get all SORTS of attention. And this Yankees team isn't that great, really. They're top-heavy with home run hitters. And when the home runs stop, so does their winning. Plus they have bad team chemistry.
They then win two games in a row and ESPN loses their sh!t over it? The first game they won in that "streak" they called it 🤣 came after losing three in a row to a division rival (Blue Jays) AT HOME. But of COURSE they leave out context. And sure, they beat Scherzer... because of errors, mainly. But again, DO NOT ADD CONTEXT, or you will upset the baby! 🤣
@@Silence_Duder_Gooder I liked ESPN better when it was mostly in Bristol, Connecticut, where it was founded.
@@44excalibur , yeah, from 1979 to around 1990 they did a great job. They were more balanced in coverage. Then Michael Jordan ascended and they got into the player promotion business. Then they got bought out by Disney/ABC and became what they once mocked and now they suck.
Why aren’t we talking about Albert Pujols home run chase. That’s the real story here. We haven’t seen a HR milestone chase like this since ‘98.
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Because he did steroids
Hes the goat !!
@@lookingforfalse4082 lol. He hasn’t ever pissed hot. And Pujols got fat 🤣🤣. He didn’t bulk up in muscle ☠️. Plus his head is the same size.
Flip we’re lucky they’re even talking about baseball 😂😂
Stephen A stepped up with the baseball analysis. So refreshing to have First Take talk about baseball
Stephen A also just questioned Jake’s durability and then complained that Buck gave him an extra day off…
When Degrom is healthy he is a beast and hands down the best pitcher in baseball
Otherwise, he's either Kerry Wood or Mark Prior.
@@Silence_Duder_Gooder he's better than that when not 100%
@@alexvaldez456av, against the Rockies. 🤣
True but he’s too injury prone
ngl he got a point bro. I'm a Yankees fan and i wanted to see us play deGrom.
As a Mets fan bro I also wanted to see Jake, but he is coming from the injury and we need him healthy for the playoffs we need to give him a bit of rest. I get the theatrics an all of that but we made the best decision for our team
The problem is Stephan A is a casual baseball fan. Taijuan Walker is a good starter for the Mets. Those games weren't blowouts and its not like the Frankie Montas isn't a potential ace for the Yankees. Did Scherzer not pitch the first game?? It's a stupid take. And the NBA has a HUGE problem with their stars resting every two or three games off the idea of load management. I wished Mad Dog would've corrected him.
but that's the point. It's because he's a casual that he knows what the mlb can do to attract more casuals. The real baseball fans are watching regardless
Taijuan Walker is not a good pitcher. He had a good first half but he has been playing for a while now & his bad side is going to come out. Taijuan Walker is a .500 pitcher. Mets will be exposed in the playoffs because you cant win with just 2 good starters.
I'd bet 10$ Stephen A doesn't know who Walker is
Stephen has acknowledged that the nba has a problem to as far as superstars or stars sitting out prime example would be how he has Been hard on kyrie
@@wandameadows5736 Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling: Am I a joke to you? 😆
They want Scherzer vs Cole, and DeGrom vs Nestor, just like they wanted Leiter vs Pettitte and Hampton vs Clemens.
That would of been nice! Heck we a 2 game series ?? Why not a full 3 game or heck 4 game series
deGrom vs Cole and Scherzer vs Nestor
Nestor being in the same category as Scherzer and Degrom tells you everything you need to know. The Mets are the top dogs and the Yankees are looking up at them
@@chriscroke718 I wouldn’t even put Nestor in that category
The problem goes down to conditioning of pitchers in general. No one can stay healthy.
First ever GREAT baseball segment
I agree with this take, however when pitchers are used to having a certain # of days between starts changing that can have consequences
First time ever Stephen a Smith makes sense talking baseball
said the braves dont stand in their way bc they took 4 out of 5.... does he know atl just took 3of 4 from the mets last week???
@@datdudesp1646 no he doesn’t because he doesn’t watch baseball
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@datdudesp1646 unfortunately two Mets starters got injured the first two games so maybe it doesn’t change the outcome but it’s an asterisk for me at least one of the games
As a Yankees fan, I agree right now. I think if the Yankees heat back up once all their guys start to come back from injuries, then it's them.
If degrom and Scherzer are able to pitch in the playoffs, they will be hard to beat
Loved this take!!!
Mad dog helping Stephen a with baseball becuase ain't no way he knew all this on his own
😭
He actually did, idiot!
SAS always know about NY Baseball at least. He just doesn't talk about it a lot cause honestly most people would rather hear another cowboys story (don't agree)
That would be awesome to see that, if that happen
Stephen A actually made a point! When the best teams play you are supposed to use your ace against one of the best teams in baseball.
If the mets and yankees match up in the fall classic, the mets have a better chance to take the series in 5-6 games. The yankees have been a team that is used to winning big time and the mets, despite this season, havent been a winning team like the other team in the big city. As an astros fan, last year i was very optimistic about taking the series but deep down i knew atlanta would beat us because we were used to the big stage and the young, hungry braves were there for the first time, that team knew they had to step up and did just that. Same goes for the mets this year, this team can win but if they are put in a 7 game series to win it all, they will.
guys... they gotta follow the rotation to the number. Try tossing a baseball at even a regular speed and see how your arm feels the next day. It's impossible to throw the next day, or the few days after.
Omg they are talking BASEBALL on 1st Take! Wow! 🗽💥👏🏾🗽
DeGrom didn’t pitch that game most likely for two reasons:
1) Buck said he wanted to space out his two aces a little bit to add more longevity to the rotation rather than having the top 3 in the rotation and then two big question marks with carasco out and walker at the time (and still a little bit now) being a question mark.
2) They are being very very careful with Jake bc of what Stephen said about in terms of injuries. Their odds of going farther in the playoffs increase drastically if they have a healthy Jake.
I understand what he’s saying about the spectacle but at the end of the day it’s just one game. Bringing Citi field its first WS title isn’t. Not to mention if it is a subway series WS that’ll be a whole different level in terms of the yanks-Mets spectacle.
I mean ESPN can also cover the sport of baseball more often. It’s like 12 month coverage of NFL and NBA all year round.
He got a point with the DeGrom not pitching as a Yankees fan even if he destroyed us I would have still wanted to see him pitch at Yankees stadium
Did you see the Braves smack around the Mets in Atlanta mr smith, then the Astros? Put some respect on they name
They ain't going to talk about the Astros, Braves, or even the Dodgers at times.
brave have a losing record against the mets this season…….
Braves just smacked around the Mets and Astros did you forget about that
Stephen A Smith doesn't like any team in Georgia and I'm cool with that .:)
they didn't smack around the Astros tf!! what games were you watching?
Look at my orioles THEY WON A SERIES AGAINST THE ASTROS!
At the moment, the Mets because they have a reliable ace at the moment in Max Scherzer. Gerrit Cole has been pretty inconsistent this season and in the playoffs with the Yankees. In baseball, playoffs it is about clutch hitting and pitching.
I agree with Stephen A. on that point... I was shocked to see Degrom not pitch that 2nd game.
They could just have the star pitchers pitch and if they are scared of injuries then have a pitch limit.
I honestly the pitch clock will change everything for the better. It will add intensity.
Like the NBA added the shot clock violation.
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Buck is horrible with selecting relief pitchers so many games mets lost because of the lousy relief
All depends on injuries
Cole pitched 3 days ago, he couldn’t pitch yesterday
They are so dumb for saying that . Cole gets the ball every 5 days as every normal starter does . They want him to pitch on 3 days rest 🤣 fools we not in the playoffs tf🤦🏽♂️
@@josecerda223 I know
I was screaming at the screen
You know nothing about baseball if you think cole should have pitched
They arw dumb
Stephen A says that deGrom’s health is an issue and he needs to stay healthy then criticizes the Mets for sitting deGrom so they can give him an extra day of rest because they’re caring about his health, talking out of both sides of his mouth
Factssss Degrom should of played last night instead we got walker and how did that work out for us very bad decisions hands down
The problem is that starting pitchers go every 5th game.
Why not have 2 starters split a game, and then do that every 3 days.
That’s a good idea. I think baseball is just stuck in tradition. They did change some things around though like the lineups are no longer 2 speed contact hitters then 3 and 4 homerun hitters. Now a guy like judge or rizzo can hit second.
Good Ole Stephen Naismith, props if you get that joke
At this point, it’s the Mets
Finally first take talks about Baseball when there is one month left lmaooo hysterical smfh
add the intentional walks to that.
Can’t believe they’re actually talking baseball during baseball season
Wow ESPN talking about something other than NFL or NBA. Amazing.
Yeah I think baseballs going in the right direction tho with how there having everyoen play everyone next seaosn
Yankees if we can get hot which we are doing with this 3 game winning streak we can go all the way.
We just need to get healthy before the postseason .
@@superbad001992 right health is everything when it matters.
Steve a smith right about New York Mets and yanks and New York basketball team and football 🏈
i was so upset when degrom didnt face the yankees, and im a yankees fan lol shouldn't that tell you how messed up that is, that i wanted degrom to pitch against my team
i hope he goes this hard at basketball when they have those load mangement games and stars sit
SAS didn’t mention the Cardinals and That’s where I checked out
So good to see First Take talk about baseball. Stephen A. Smith is 100% right
Hey stephan, I can think of 1000s of Yankees fans who DID NOT want to see Jacob Degrom pitch against them 😂
Managers and players are really trying to over-manage and manipulate the game and take away the excitement from the fans. The over-management has been growing more and more since I’ve watched MLB since 2012. Managers and coaches try to have too much of a footprint despite the fact the game comes down to what the players do out there
For once I agree with Stephen A. This is a great take. Baseball is on a deathbed because it’s not just simply theatre as Stephen A. Football and hockey are just simply more entertaining. It bums me out as a huge baseball fan
Baseball is different compared to the other 4 sports ,it’s literally 162 game season,which means there is a game practically every day of the season ,there is something called wear and tear and soreness
I am a die hard yankee fan.. the biggest threat as of now. L.A. they're playing sound baseball overall
Facts the yankees have been one of the worst teams since the trade deadline, it should be the Mets or LA.
The New Skip Bayless😆
There are 2 major problems with baseball. The first is that players are so bad they can't hit against the shift. So bad they won't even bunt. The second is that all they do is try to hit home runs, they're not even trying to get on base. It's strikeout or HR
Maybe the pitching is just that good
You don’t know ball
Just becuase you don’t understand the game and don’t know what’s going on within the game doesn’t mean everyone out there does too, there’s people out there who do and we enjoy the game for what it is and going to be , more exciting, more action , very underrated sport that will come back to life soon ,the game is growing and teaching like never before , MLB is a hidden gem and it’s harder then ever
Just like nba dunk or shoot threes
You obviously haven't watched Dodgers baseball this season. They do all of that CONSISTENTLY. Freddie Freeman BY HIMSELF is a shift killer. 🤣
But how COULD YOU KNOW THAT, as ESPN never seems to go into depth about the Dodgers. Unless maybe when they air a game. But even then they don't seem to know about that team.
Mets will choke and braves will win the NL East again. Go Braves
The Braves got lucky last year, gonna be another 25 years for y'all
@@1digidude you must be a Mets fan
@@armarktolbert1114 Dude It's not always about the Mets but It's about the Mets baby love the Mets alright baby let's go get a home run baby love the Mets let's go Mets.
@@1digidude 😂😂 go braves
@@1digidude, '86, bub. 😂🤣😂
The main issue is there’s too many games and not enough days off. 162 games with most teams playing 6/7 days of the week. The season should be 100 games over the same amount of time. Then these things wouldn’t happen cause players would have more rest.
@3:03
“It’s about theater…”
Yep…that’s what Stephen A’s whole career is! 😂
Just scream and people react! Haha
Uh, HELLO, the defending American League Champions have the best record in the American League right now. The disrespect us beyond ridiculous
As a Yankee hating Mets fan, Yes!!....BUT we're still the Mets, I'm smart enough not to lose sight of that. It's all about closing pitching. And the ghost of Armondo Benitez still haunts the Mets. Familiá blew us the series against the Royals. Someone will blow it this year too.
But in the NBA players load manage ALL THE TIME in critical games
When against big teams??
Where's not just Cole. Where is Nester?
Degrom vs judge 😭😭
4:21, Stephen A. and Mad Dog Russo give you some of everything. They are the best TV sports talk duo of all time. And they have only been on together for like 6 months! 💯
Mets need to improve middle relief come playoffs they need reliable arms
If that’s the problem of baseball, that’s the problem with the NBA as well. It’s been the biggest topic of SPORTS of the last few years
DeGrom and Mad Max back to back is so unfair man.
Max was on a better Dodgers roster last year and didn't win. 🤣
It's going to be Astros v Dodgers world series. No point talking about New York
Stephen a should never be allowed to talk about baseball ever again
Even though he made sense??
@@jamestribie3387 SAS doesn't even watch the sport, he's a clown.
So no one told Stephen A that Hank has been dead since 2020?
Stephen A is right degrom should of pitched vs the Yankees but instead buck pushed him back to play vs the horrible rockies it's the subway series and Cole hasn't pitched vs the Mets in both series why is that ,both teams messed up there ,
Cole pitched Saturday, what are we talking about?
So in order for first take to talk about baseball both New York teams need to be top in their divisions.
Cole just pitched against bluejays
Neither. The answer is neither.
Neither NY team making it this year. It’s a rematch of 2017 in the WS this year
sa has a point tho abt theater!
This needs to be 15:00
Basebalistic baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well said Sir.......................
Mets don't care about the head to head with the Yankees, Mets needed to split the rotation so the bullpen is lined up better for usage against NL teams like the Dodgers series coming up in NY in a few days. Bet that series will have a larger national pull than the subway series because it has home field advantage on the line which is MASSIVE when you consider the away team will have to travel from coast to coast.
Nah it’ll have more pull among baseball fans but Yankees mets definitely has more pull in the general public. Especially considering their records and city.
As soon as I saw joly Rodriguez I knew mets would have lost he either has bad luck or pitches horrible hence his era over 5
So who does Russo think is the biggest threat?
How's sitting degrom any different then NBA stars resting
How is he knocking baseball players when star NBA players sit out almost a quarter of the season every year. It sounds like he found out about the current state of the MLB season this morning when he found out this was a segment.
Smith hasn’t been shut down this fast in a long long time.
Thank you Mad Dog. Because if Stephen A was gonna come at DeGrom for not pitching….Tell the whole story. Cole was NO where to be found and he wasn’t injured.
So did you want Cole to randomly pitch on 2 days rest?
Rare Stephen A w
Bruh Cole pitched Saturday calm down lmao, Toronto is an AL East Rival. Tell me you don’t watch baseball without telling me you don’t watch badeball
They play 162 games and as a Mets fan, I could care less about the "theater" thats for basketball Stephen A. Give my guy the extra day so he doesnt blow out another shoulder. We need him in Octobter to be 100%
Love mad dog … he’s too good
Stephen a needs to understand, we HAD to line it up so degrom would pitch in the DODGERS series!!!
Gerrit cole didn’t pitch due to pitchers not being able to pitch every day… what they think this is? Softball? They are on rotations lol.
rotations in baseball are made for a reason, 100+ pitches at 95mph+ isn’t normal. pitchers need proper training and rest. if a pitcher needs extra rest he needs the extra rest. this isnt basketball that you can play through soreness. i don’t care if it’s the most important game of the season if a pitcher isn’t 100% or is coming back from an injury and building his way up he should not be on the mound. degrom is a generational talent the best pitcher in baseball, you don’t want him re injuring himself “for entertainment” the game itself is the entertainment. cole didn’t pitch against the mets because he just simply didn’t fall into the schedule. the team’s rotation made him miss the mets games they were only 2 two game series (4 games) eventually one pitcher was going to get left out this time it was cole. it happens. i love first take but every time they talk any type of baseball it’s none sense, they need to stick to other sports leave baseball to mlb network or something else on the espn channel
The theater is in October Stephen A. So Steph Curry should have played through the ligament injury in that game against Boston because that would have been the match of the NBA final in the regular season? There is 162 games in the regular season for baseball. There is theater every day if you pay attention so get a grip Stephen A.
He ain't wrong. Mets fans should've agree with him.
Here is the thing. Buck didn't treat the Yankees like they were special from any other team. He put Joely Rodriguez in a tie game in the 7th. I think Buck is more concerned with the Braves right now than some crosstown rivalry so it makes no difference if it's the Yankees or the Rockies.
Well we'll see how that turns out isn't it. nowadays baseball players are fragile as glass I tell you.
Stephen A is right, no debate, period
No, he's not
I disagree because the Yankees do have the easier road the NL is alot tougher than the AL. The Mets lost 3 out of 4 to the Braves the following week and only lead by 2 games in the East so they havent even secured the Division yet. The Dodgers will be a tough out especially with the best record.
@@ronaldjackson2290 except the AL east is by far and away the toughest division in baseball and it’s not close