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X Transbots Commander Stack Vs Takara Tomy Ultra Magnus
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the wheels on the feet of the MP Magnus flips around to show faux wheels, to be more "toon accurate"
I love when the detail in an MP figure represents what it might have looked like on the show if the animators had had a lot more money and time - rather than rushing to meet deadlines
This is a clear case of Takara’s being a much earlier release. Had this release been within the last two years, this score would’ve been much closer, with maybe a different winner.
I mean yeah but you could say that for every older figure
We can't use the excuse for Takara's being older. Being older is not an excuse for bad designs.
Agreed. X-Transbots is clearly standing on the shoulders of the MP as I expect anything coming out years after the original.
Not to pick on this response... there are others... but it's like Takara got 1/2 way done getting the transformation setup and decided... just make the front look good. They have bots of that area that are still top choices... but for UM they failed to make it finished.
@@voodoo9449 sure they did, but none trying to do what they did by intercepting the entire cab into the transformation instead of doing like every other version and just doing a bot/armor combo.
Just to put things in perspective, 7 years ago when Ultra Magnus was released X-transbots released a dusty Scourge missing its beard and Bobby couldn’t really recommend it. Glad to see they’ve come a long way.
Ultra Magnus is definitely a little dated but I think it works on the shelf. I don’t need UM to have Spider-Man level articulation.
To be fair that Takara was born in a different time when masterpieces just got started. Its still the collectors must have. Going to display mine in alt mode. Xtrans in bot.
Xtransbot Ultra Magnus is a hard mf figure!!!💯💪🔥🔥🔥 They killed it!!! IM NOT EVEN A FAN OF ULTRA MAGNUS!!!! But u will not be disappointed in this purchase!!!! Xtransbot 👑 of the Ultra Magnus!!! I have both figures. And NO ISSUES WITH XTRANSBOT AT ALL!!! DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING U SEE OR HEAR!!!!
Stop shilling, Keith. Go rotate Commander Stack's shoulders backwards until they unscrew themselves. It won't take you long. And don't move the hip flaps too much or they'll crack.
I’m still like Takara. He looks like the big guy in your group you don’t F with. Again. I always look for Toon and Toy look. Not just toon. I like the fact that he’s bigger too. There was a saying about him in the toon. I believe it’s in only Human episode. He might not be graceful but very powerful. Again. Tak looks like he can kick A. X looks like six shot will Kill him. Thanks for the review.
But didn't Six Shot kill him?
Also, when you consider how close they were in the sculpt, design and paint early on and that's probably just going to sit on a shelf or display cabinet as opposed to actually being played with, I'd say the choice is primarily personal.
Even after the slaughter it’s not worth the swap. Takara Ultra Mag has shelf presence and I actually have grown to hate the extra work for less detail the toon craze has ushered in. I definitely started collecting at the right time. I hate to see Xtransbots going hyper toon as well. They were actually the only company holding on to some detailed figures. Oh well. Great video Skully!
Okay but this figure isn't at all hyper toon accurate. Commander Stack has heroic proportions a lot like early Fanstoys. Quite different from the way the animation model looks (and for the better, I'd say). 🤷♂️
Is it jus me or is there a lot of kick back because an XTB figure won a vs??? Maybe, jus maybe if we give companies a chance to grow jus like the #1 company grew (FT) we can get the prices to course correct for the whole market...
Oh yeah, most people that watch BSF love FT and only care about them. They see XTB as trash..
@@anthonyc2347 Being honest with you, even though this Ultra Magnus is amazing and the definitive G1 Masterpiece of the character; the folks of X-Transbots kept screwing over their customers again and again for years with their disgraceful QC issues and transformations that can give you PTSD. They earned a infamous reputation in the fandom so it's no wonder the comments have a bias against the figure just because of the company's name
@The Dark Knight screwed customers? Have they not given replacement parts or even figures? People are so dramatic, other companies have the same issues.
I don't know, not saying I disagree with the result, but maybe the intention. To me, this is sort of like comparing Transform Element TE-01 to MP-01. It was two different times with two different intentions. But then again, I'm not a big third party buyer, so I'm not sure my opinion is relevant lol. Either way, I love these comparison videos!
One could argue that Takara's Ultra Magnus is too old (and it is), but also there are some old molds that hold their ground better against new releases (like Soundwave vs Aoustic wave or Sphinx vs Phantasm). At the end, if Takara would gave Ultra Magnus a bit more articulation and a better design to remove the buttflap, maybe it wouldn't had win but it could be an honorable death. 🤔 Thanks for the video!
Definitely saw it coming, but I don't really see a heavy reason to swap out the figures. Like Bobby has said before we're both fans of the kind of crossover G1/updated aspect that the older figures have. And the fact that I got a great price on my Magnus means I'd be eating one hell of a upgrade price just to swap something out.
Awesome content. Sticking with Takara for now
I guess I don't disagree with any of these, but it's up to the individual to weight each factor for themselves, and for me, the transformation is worth about 10 points while the difference in accuracy, appearance, paint and scale add up to like, half a point.
I agree, how fun a figure is tends to be the biggest deciding factor for me over aesthetics
Seems about right. I love a bit of extra sculpting, but I think Magnus is one of those characters that even in the toon, has a fair bit going on anyway, so I don't find it quite as lacking as some others.
The transformation was very frustrating, the cab section especially, but I think overall its a great Magnus.
Not sure if you know about the screw 🪛 in the left arm issue. XTB looks beautiful, but 200+ with poor QC...I just can't do it. Looks outstanding cannot deny that.
Don't believe everything u see!!! Bad ass figure by xtransbot worth the money 💰 not even a ultra magnus fan!!!
Mine has no QC issues it’s worth it
And still has a “QC” sticker 😳
Jus because a person has an issue doesn't mean it's wide spread or due to handling the figure...I've seen "certain" reviewers handle figures roughly when they want that figure to look bad...I have zero QC issues with mine...
I’ve known issues on the takara as well though. My friends can’t stand. My xtb magnus is nearly perfect besides some hipskirt issues which they absolutely should’ve done better on though. and the guy who’s arm fell off was able to fix it
Yeah, that's about what I expected. Thanks Bobby.
I love the homage to *Robert Stack*
Good Review. I still prefer the TT over the XTB because I think he's more beefy looking and I think that's what he always appeared to be to me. MP22 had Faux wheels that flipped over for robot which I think was not mentioned or shown. I don't expect that to do anything, but I personally thought that was a cool gimmick they did to help make it look more toonish. I did not have any doubts that XTB would be TT. I mean come one I hope it wouldn't due to the fact it's almost 9 years old. I think the things I like about the TT version are things that I don't really need in a new figure. I like the what they did the Alt mode. I though would not be surprised if TT made an UM 2.0 at some point given the direction of MP. Looking forward to the Jive review. You have to play the Beegee's Jive Talk for that review...lol.
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The THF Hyper Magnum is a slightly improved version of the Takara MP-22 but it would not have made a difference. It's obvious XTB is the clear winner but is it worth it to sell your MP-22 and get the XTB version? In case of the Seekers that was a no brainer but imo with this one its a bit harder. The 7 year old one still has a good shelf presence. Ow and you forgot to flip the wheels on the takara one to make it more toon accurate 😉😄
Yeah, definitely contemplating the new Commander Stack but good lord the panel flipping to get there. Either way, i put the preorder in for FT Magnus.
I collect legends scale and love that they are cartoon accurate at that scale, and I love MS because, honestly, Bobby, I still like to play with them, and I don't have to worry about the material breaking, and I can fiddle with them all day. I had to stop collecting MP's in 2014 after I broke my neck and sold what I had collected up to that point. My MP10 MP13 3rd Party Arialbots and Mensor etc etc When I see what they sell now as MPs with the cartoon-accurate MP price point or CAMPPP, I want to scream. I don't know about anyone else but I really like still playing with my transformers. I don't play pretend but I transform them back and forth it relaxes me. And I love my legends scale. Neither of these seems playable.
Sorry, not flipping TT Magnus tires around in bot mode kinda bugs me.
Man that old lighting.
Takara all the way for me🙏
One sided beat Down.⚔️🔥⚔️🔥🔥❤️💯.
The Tree!!!! I live it.
I cancelled my order when I saw someone trying to do that transformation. Sure I never transform them, but it should be a possibility.
My favorite part is when Bobby goes into his cave to check the scores.
I've been waiting on a figure to replace my official. I'm to see my preorder is a positive purchase.
For a figure as old as the Takara, it's still solid. Things like ab crunches weren't much of a consideration, along with many other points of articulation, when Magnus was designed, neither was the toon aesthetic. The cost of replacement is nowhere near worth it for me.
I just don’t see enough to oust the official that I spent so much money on for this character. That being said, the Fanstoys one looks to have enough differentiation and time between releases for me to where I will probably make the move then.
Never liked the Takara version. Thought it was ugly day 1. Not a good design to me. Sold it shortly after owning it. I believe the change in designers at that time affected the quality of MP 22. I only question one part of the vid where you say they put love into the arms for MP 22....which I don't agree...There are very visible sprue marks on the forearms and the hands are not very good. MP 22 is a sloppy design. I'm not an X-Transbots fan but this Commander Stack figure is the best G1 Ultra Magnus I've seen, imo. This is the only XTB figure I'm interested in and now own and it has no issues and I like to pose and handle my figures...guess I was lucky. XTB Commander Stack is definitely a figure of the year candidate...imo. Thanks for the vid.
Great video, per usual. The outcome was predictable, Takara wasn't very well received when it came out years ago. I can only hope that fanstoys doesn't try to take the 'most bland' sculpt award from XTB and produces a balance between toon and takara, Tookara, if you will.
If I had neither, I'd buy the XTB, no doubt. But it's not so far ahead of the MP just posed on a shelf that it's worth swapping. The MP holds up fairly well in that respect.
LET’S GET IT .. Been waiting on this one .. BOBBY WADDUP
Even gets an ab tilt on the xtb 😮💨 Using TFsource too is the most expensive retailer. Got my ultra Magnus for $200
Great review, as always. Despite the lopsided loss, I'll take the Takara over the newer Magnus. The transformation is a deal breaker.
Yo Bobby, how are your thoughts now on jive? Improved or still don't like it.
Honestly, the transformation engineering should go to xtb over tt. Sure, the tt is simple but lets be real, like jobbythehongs quote, who sold their soul to design this xtb. Even though the transformation is so complex, it makes the figure clean up too well and no kibble on both modes. The transformation is not as difficult, it’s quite fun. Just start with the arms then the legs so then you’d have leverage to convert the body to a cab
Would have been great to see a 3 way comparison between these 2 and KFCs Citizen Stack
I still have a soft spot for MP-22. It just feels like magnus, yknow?
XTB sure looks pretty and clean from behind, but the usual QC issues and horrid transformation plus the FT one on the horizon in the next couple of years hopefully, I'm rolling with Takara and selling of my Stack.
Takara is still my favorite.
Im not really a fan of the "new style mp" of the plastic origami where a lot of the transformation is peeling back all the panels and flipping then and/or folding them back.
The butflap is pretty terrible though.
Oh maaan, excited for this one. Let’s blood bath!
I don't have a ton of money to spend on TFs and for me the improved THF Magnus for $80 wins on value.
I agree with this outcome 100%. XTB Magnus won easily. That said... I don't think I will be swapping my Magnus. I have that version with the bendable butt flap which I believe is a KO but I can't remember for sure. 😅 Well... that one is a significant improvement to the official one and I'm happy with it. Also... It's a character that will always go to the background of the shelf because of his size. And he does look the part pretty well that there's really no need to swap him out with the XTB. At least for me. If I didn't have that one already... I would definitely go with the XTB one.
Yep that's the KO. How is it. I heard it was better than the Takara
@@maui_idw7644 much better than the Takara. Better ratchets and tolerances and if course... The bendable butt flap is a slight improvement. But, of course... This new XTB looks way better.
Takara Masterpiece(r) where Masterpiece is a registered trademark. X Transbot/Fanstoys Masterpiece where masterpiece is an adjective.
Rightfully so lol.
XTB >>>>
I think the X transbots only good thing is the shoulder rockets , looks better 😊
Bro … Get the damn batteries.. I think you n your fans are dedicated n sophisticated enough that you can go out your way to keep some damn batteries on deck big homie
No.
@@MythsAndHeroes as someone who has had to clean battery corrosion and even replace wiring in a transformer due to it, I appreciate your hatred for putting in batteries.
ouch.
That was a case of revenge, it seems. Didn't you have a comparison between MP22 and KFC Citizen Stack where Takara won?
Anywho, if FansToys doesn't screw up the pricing of their upcoming Ultra Magnus, and if they don't screw up the transformation of the inner robot (because that'll quite obviously get a repaint and possible retool as Optimus Prime akin to how NewAge did between "Octavian" (Magnus) & "David" (Prime)...), FansToys could very well have the best Ultra Magnus in the Masterpiece game. But if they overprice it...NOPE!!
This is my biggest L. I already have the Takara and won’t be switching. At least I can’t see the back of the Takara version.
I was almost 100% X-Transbots up until I saw the two side by side. I like the beefiness of the Takara, Ultra Magnus looks way more heroic. I don't see the need to swap, just canceled my XTB pre-order
It's an interesting comparison but I think that the categories X-Transbots wins are so marginal (except articulation, to be fair) that it's mostly a moot point for me. Not that I have either figure, mind you. I do think it would be worth using different retailers for price comparisons though. BBTS and TFSource often have legit scalper prices for older figures, for example.
As far as Takara's being unfinished, Shogo Hasui did the initial design and was replaced halfway through by that idiot Kobayashi who screwed up all the recent stuff, so I have to wonder if the designer change is _why_ it feels so unfinished.
Either way, I find it amusing that people will say "you don't display your figures from the back" and, in the same breath, criticise a figure for its back. Not that X-Transbots isn't better in this regard, but I wish the people who use that sort of argument to defend a figure cared about that universally and not just when it suited them. Obviously a comparison like this is different though - I mainly thinking of other people.
for me Takara wins.
Oh yeah!
Vanilla Ice quoting Gotcha , gotcha! Yep, yep!
I can’t deal with this right now lol
This will be interesting, but my money is still going to Fanstoys.
How long do you think it will take them to finish the FT magnus?
Let's figure out Dead End first, then Optimus, then The Suite with Optimus...wait by then Takara UM 2.0 is out oh boy XTB Metallic Stacks...LOL
Get the fans ready. Fans on!
Transformation-Takara by a landslide.
Quality- Takara by a landslide
Alt mode-Takara
These are huge wins for a 10 year old figure.
Something to think about.
Clearly haven't handled MX-22.
First, I don't agree with you in the slightest. Just because X-transbots uses paint doesn't make it better because if you transform them enough, the paint will start to fail over time. Especially when you have a transformation is the way it is. Second, I think that you were not as fair to takara as you were to X-transbots. I think there is a lot of favoritism from you and I haven't seen any versus videos of yours with as much, so I'm disappointed in that, I think I might be changing my opinion of your content now. Thumbs down for me.
Dude… I’m rolling with the takara. What favoritism are you talking about 😆
Holy shit, you actual child. 💀
No that the review wasn't worth watching.... but for me all it takes is looking at the back in bot mode... Takara looks like UM escaped the retirement home with his depends sagging... complete fail for MP figure to look so chuggish.
Also I think I finally nailed down something ... and I hope I'm not alone. I tend to like the toon look better not just because it's the toon look, but because it's a complete transformation... no bits hanging open or sticking out... a solid waist/side/back (feet - Bumblebee). I'd love to have that with the extra details. So if the manufacturers really want to make me bots I really would like to purchase... they make the "toon" bot and then add the details ... cartoon accurate ... toy accurate... their own take... any thing to break it up and make it look cool. I can't wait to see what Bobby has to say on it.
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Thats why i bought my XTB Magnus for only $50 using my showzstore points. I buy showzstore points for $100 a month
So... you actually paid full price because you bought the equivalent in points.
Your logic is, of course, flawless, and you should be commended for your real-life infinite money glitch.
@@GareWorks why thank you. I dont have time to spend over $100 on MPs