@@sauce8277 It's not super uncommon in fighting games. Though generally it's a last resort when you really can't figure things out with your more practiced character.
when MkLeo's joker won, people say "MkLeo is amazing" Yes, I agree. He is the best. when Zackray's joker won, people say "zackray is carried by joker" WHY? Didn't they know zackray beat tweek, dabuz and cosmos by not joker (also 2game against nairo ) ? I despise them. It's is obviously that Zackray and his skills are amazing!
@@mimi-tm6tr I think at first people say Leo was carried by Joker, but over time the community found some brain cells and now they realize it's leo after he won over and over. They'll respect Zachary the same way soon, hopefully
I would love to see Dabuz's face at 23:57 Before that, it could go either way. After that, I was 100% convinced that Zackray would win this tournament, and I think everyone could sense that he just leveled up right in front of us.
23:57 will never not be a dope ass confirm lol. Whenever Leo does it I get hyped, same goes for Zack lol. You can really feel the salt in their opponents every time they get hit by it.
Kalmi nii-Sama Landing the hitbox to ground dsmash is harder than landing Arsene dair. Also GnW's setup would not kill from center stage or opposite stage without a lack of DI. Joker's set up kills from anywhere on stage as it kills off the top
@@taxman7617 dude I literally made a reference to the most iconic line from the smash doc. Most people in the smash scene have seen the smash doc and would immediately get the reference. I'm not gonna ruin the joke by taking the time to explain it after the quote just so one person can understand it
@@Chario_ Yea, nice, I still don’t get it. Next time don’t explain it, just put Kappa or something after the joke to make it seem like it is to people who don’t get the reference.
25:05 smashers will never cease to amaze me, look at the dude all the way to the right in the front row just lookin at his phone like he didnt just witness that
I feel bad for Maister. Just because he was playin G&W you just hear a whole bunch of "Boo"s in the audience. Constantly being boo'd at must really mess you up.
Wooktent that’s kinda bs man just learn the MU they are annoying I won’t deny but it’s like every other character why don’t people boo nairo when he nairs because people like him and palu and there’s nothing to dislike about Pac-Man or G&W
@@JesusDiaz-vm1xz I like Pac-Man, but I understand why some people don't like super campy characters. They do often grind the pace down a lot. I don't get the G&W hate, though. And agreed about endless Palu nairs: definitely not the most interesting to watch.
@@DefenestrateYourself That's not what this set showed at ALL Zack has never played a G&W before, while Maister practices with the world's best Joker. Yet when Zack pulled out the Joker in this set, he took 3 games in a row from Maister And if you pay attention to how each game went, Zack 1-stocked Maister, then 2-stocked Maister, then freaking 3-stocked Maister. That's not an "either direction", that's a curbstomp plain and simple. Hell, Maister couldn't even 3-stock Zackray's CORRIN OR SONIC, yet Zack 3-stocked his main And the reason Maister won the previous set in such a dominating fashion is because he fought Zack's Corrin. Who, I'm fairly certain we've only seen once in Ult during random v random battles at Summit
You should see KEN's sonic too, he's easily the best sonic with amazing placings, amazing wins and being able to beat MKLeo's joker twice in a grand finals
@@charakr Yeah, KEN is definitely the best sonic in Ultimate. Although since KEN doesn't leave Japan very often he wasn't on the PGR, even though he's beaten MKLeo twice. Apparently Zackray even asked him for some Sonic tips before this set started
@@taxman7617 Still wouldnt discredit him on that win. It's an impressive feat regardless. But if we look at his other amazing feats, he still got a win on Season 1 Cosmos who was the 11th best in the world at that time and wins on T, Bushi, Lea, Hikaru, Choco and Zackray
IMO this is the best Zackray set alongside his first match against Light and Void and the Super Smash Con match against Leo. Edit: Forgot about the first two matches against Tweek.
I still give the edge to the 15 games Zackray and Shuton played at the recent Umebura . Those games were really fast paced , and both players played super aggressively .
Maister needs to respect Arsene more. He was super aggressive, especially in game five, that’s why he got killed so early on the 2nd stock. I can sense he was frustrated. Not respecting Arsene is also the reason he lost game 3. He just threw out the key on the last stock in the most predictable scenario, not respecting Arsene’s disjoints. That was a close match and Maister should’ve played insanely cautious. You know Zack is gonna adapt the more you play, you need to take him out NOW, so be careful.
megaKstudios imo being aggressive against arsene is better than camping especially when arsene is in disadvantage. But yes magister needed to respect arsene so he won’t die early
I think PGStats did a good video on what happened here. Zackray basically learned all of Maister's defensive/counter-offensive options and just stuffed them all out
Dude whyyyy would you pick PS2 against joker ever. Sorry but the height of those platforms benefit Joker WAY too much to be advantageous for anyone else. Also shoutouts to whoever played the massively triumphant sounding part of the Banjo Kazooie theme at the end there. Perfect for this.
I honestly think it wouldn't have worked the reason I think Joker worked against maister is cuz he got to careless from the two games before. He also beat Zackray's Joker before so he probably thought it would be easy again
Nope. Maister beat Zack’s Joker in semis. This time it was more effective because Maister broke down after being killed at 54 from a up smash while he had a big percentage advantage.
@@taxman7617 ah yes when nairo and maister lost they were definetly autopiloting when the final set was 3-2 and why would maister autopilot when the battle was for summit? Stop johning for other players lol
@@lukeblaker8009 I think you missed the point of my comment.... (I was taking you seriously until you said "lol". Now I cant even look at your comment without laughing)
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 Maybe. Props to him for using a weaker character though, and not resorting to desperately character swapping to see what sticks against an enemy.
Zackray tweeted that he used sonic at the start to feel maister out. Kid is really a prodigy
he tweeted saying he used sonic to settle down and give him pace
nextlevelcrazy precisely, as to aim to understand the timing and spacing of how he needs to play to beat his opponent
That's next level meta.
@@sauce8277 It's not super uncommon in fighting games. Though generally it's a last resort when you really can't figure things out with your more practiced character.
TacitIron Hav
Yeah, Nairo does it quite a bit. Usually with ZSS, recently with DK
You guys remember when Shuton down-aired a Pikmin to recover?
Sorry, I was looking at 23:57...what did you say?
Clip of that plz.... i mustve missed the shuton clip
@@yurimidna3326 Look up Shuton vs Myran Frostbite Losers Semi's. I believe it's game 4, I know it's on PS2.
What a weird and fascinating change of tone from the first games into the final game.
Damn, he popped off.
Zackray scaring me too much today... Way too close!
Oh your icon is Joker,cool
U sound like a bich
空下狩り上スマがカッコよすぎる
最後の3タテには痺れたぜ…
24:57ここでこの演出はカッコ良過ぎる
確定演出みたいだね
ここからだ！みたいなのが燃える
when MkLeo's joker won, people say "MkLeo is amazing"
Yes, I agree. He is the best.
when Zackray's joker won, people say "zackray is carried by joker"
WHY? Didn't they know zackray beat tweek, dabuz and cosmos by not joker (also 2game against nairo ) ? I despise them.
It's is obviously that Zackray and his skills are amazing!
Bruh people still say “Leo is carried by joker lol”. Hoes won’t stop being mad.
A lot of people say MKLeo is carried by Joker
@@soulthesassyassassin3616oh sorry. i'm japanese, so I didn't know that.
@@mimi-tm6tr I think at first people say Leo was carried by Joker, but over time the community found some brain cells and now they realize it's leo after he won over and over. They'll respect Zachary the same way soon, hopefully
at first, I thought you were joking because people have been saying leo has been carried by joker pretty much since he picked up the character.
25:08 Someone guy being in the left side is thinking Zackray is God.
17:33 that camera switch is perfect
"Carelessness is your greatest enemy!"
マジで海外のどっちが勝っても盛り上がったりめっちゃ喜んでる人いるの好き
I would love to see Dabuz's face at 23:57
Before that, it could go either way. After that, I was 100% convinced that Zackray would win this tournament, and I think everyone could sense that he just leveled up right in front of us.
He finally leaned forward
I think it was over once Zackray did the Leffoble.
ザクレイがポイント取った時の外国人のリアクションすこw
ここの海外の方のザクレイソニックの論議でKENソニックの名前が出てきてて日本人としてとても嬉しい
あと、ザクレイソニック仕上げたら強いんやろうなぁww
23:57 will never not be a dope ass confirm lol. Whenever Leo does it I get hyped, same goes for Zack lol. You can really feel the salt in their opponents every time they get hit by it.
There’s also that big OOMPH put into the Arsene U-Smash that makes it super satisfying to hit with and see
It's cooler than game and watch random down smash to f smash
Idk watching Zack kill at 49% before the confirm gives me depression. That's insanely early
@@TheUltimatesonicfan1 but joker would also does at 49 fr down smash to f smash, just sayin
Kalmi nii-Sama Landing the hitbox to ground dsmash is harder than landing Arsene dair. Also GnW's setup would not kill from center stage or opposite stage without a lack of DI. Joker's set up kills from anywhere on stage as it kills off the top
ホントに演出凝ってるな…
ザクレイ ホントにおめでとう
"And now, he will try"
Nah my friend, he was trying all the way from Semis. This time Maister did break down after that up smash that killed at 54.
@@taxman7617 r/woooosh
@@Chario_ Next time you tell a joke, at least give me something to identify it please.
@@taxman7617 dude I literally made a reference to the most iconic line from the smash doc. Most people in the smash scene have seen the smash doc and would immediately get the reference. I'm not gonna ruin the joke by taking the time to explain it after the quote just so one person can understand it
@@Chario_ Yea, nice, I still don’t get it. Next time don’t explain it, just put Kappa or something after the joke to make it seem like it is to people who don’t get the reference.
これが全１ソニックの力を借りたザクレイの力
23:10 was so hype and terrifying.
25:10
ザクレイ仰いでる左の観客草
-おかこんぎょ-岡공격 vs.Nairoの時もザクレイ君が勝った時すごい嬉しそうにしてましたねw
ザクレイ教草
表現の仕方がすごいw
日本コメ欄だから言います。
5戦目の相手の顔やばすぎ
MVDやんw
25:05 smashers will never cease to amaze me, look at the dude all the way to the right in the front row just lookin at his phone like he didnt just witness that
ideal
Might be tweeting or something.
I feel bad for Maister. Just because he was playin G&W you just hear a whole bunch of "Boo"s in the audience. Constantly being boo'd at must really mess you up.
Wooktent did that really happen???
That’s dumb, I think G&W is sick!
@@JesusDiaz-vm1xz yeah. It happened to Maister here, at other tourneys, and happens to Sinji, the Pac-Man player quite often at big venues.
Wooktent that’s kinda bs man just learn the MU they are annoying I won’t deny but it’s like every other character why don’t people boo nairo when he nairs because people like him and palu and there’s nothing to dislike about Pac-Man or G&W
@@JesusDiaz-vm1xz I like Pac-Man, but I understand why some people don't like super campy characters. They do often grind the pace down a lot. I don't get the G&W hate, though. And agreed about endless Palu nairs: definitely not the most interesting to watch.
galaxy brain rebel's guard to finish off a 3 stock capping off a reverse 3-0 zackray is my god
攻略した、って感じの勝ち方やね
That moment maister got leffobled I knew he was downloaded
Daniel Dancer Eh Maister curb stomped in the previous game
@@DefenestrateYourself Hence the downloaded reverse curbstomp in this game. Still don't know why Zackray went Corrin though
@@kimjongchrist8943 Eh, It could have gone the other direction easily. Maister adapts just as well as Zac given the time.
God I feel terrible for Maister. Not only he lost his summit spot, he got destruction at those last 2 games.
@@DefenestrateYourself That's not what this set showed at ALL
Zack has never played a G&W before, while Maister practices with the world's best Joker. Yet when Zack pulled out the Joker in this set, he took 3 games in a row from Maister
And if you pay attention to how each game went, Zack 1-stocked Maister, then 2-stocked Maister, then freaking 3-stocked Maister. That's not an "either direction", that's a curbstomp plain and simple. Hell, Maister couldn't even 3-stock Zackray's CORRIN OR SONIC, yet Zack 3-stocked his main
And the reason Maister won the previous set in such a dominating fashion is because he fought Zack's Corrin. Who, I'm fairly certain we've only seen once in Ult during random v random battles at Summit
これ伝説の試合でしょ
everybody really out here ignoring 23:11 huh?
Got overshadowed by 23:57
@@IronicHavoc yes, but at 23:11 a few guys in a vc i was in were saying it didn't look as polished, that was the OKAY NEVERMIND moment for us
VollrathFGC
It was cool, but it wasn't as flashy and I've already seen Leo do it, but with an up smash finish. The one with Arsene, that was cool.
This character is fair and balanced :)
VollrathFGC Leo did it first🤷♂️
まさかの日本語でびっくりした
ぬゆりさんのフィクサーですねぇ
co23 mar めいちゃん！
23:46 amazing
0:36
自分用
I get that Zackray used Sonic for a specific purpose in this set, but I still hope he'll use him more often. The Sonic play was nice to see
You should see KEN's sonic too, he's easily the best sonic with amazing placings, amazing wins and being able to beat MKLeo's joker twice in a grand finals
@@charakr Yeah, KEN is definitely the best sonic in Ultimate. Although since KEN doesn't leave Japan very often he wasn't on the PGR, even though he's beaten MKLeo twice. Apparently Zackray even asked him for some Sonic tips before this set started
@@charakr Lets give full context to that, Ken was able to beat Month 1 Leo Joker.
@@taxman7617 Still wouldnt discredit him on that win. It's an impressive feat regardless. But if we look at his other amazing feats, he still got a win on Season 1 Cosmos who was the 11th best in the world at that time and wins on T, Bushi, Lea, Hikaru, Choco and Zackray
@@charakr I agree. Ken has the number of many top Japan players.
Funny thing is KEN actually messaged zackray about sonic infor
@Wawawa No it wasn't in-games. It was right after he lost to Maister so it's totally fine.
Wawawa it would be pretty smart to text and ask for info not sure if it’s allowed probably not
@@JesusDiaz-vm1xz i don't think it's allowed if it's between games tho. If it's no in-sets, or between games, should be fine
ザクレイの後日談聞いてからみるとたった2試合でコツ掴むのはすげぇな。
実際は5試合。この前にマイスターに負けてルーザーになってるから
@@maxrichter4231 2本じゃなくて2試合なのでwinners側とlosers側の2試合ってことじゃないですかね。
maisterが空下擦る癖があってそれに攻撃合わせたんだったか
冒頭フィクサー流れてびっくりしたのは私だけ？
それ
それ
それ
ぬゆりさん凄いと思ってたけど改めて再認識させられたわ
このフィクサー誰歌ってるやつ？
You're too slow! Feels great seeing Zackray's Sonic!
23:57 ok apparently Mr. Game and watch is super light I didn't know that
Aric Ting third lightest in the game after pichu and puff
Elfy and squirtle
Yea, Arsene can kill him at 50 with up smash :(
Elfy actually tied with puff for 2nd lightest
Railblazer
Who’s Elfy
ジョーカーの2試合目から完全に対応しててまじでカッコイイ…歳下なのにすげぇよ…ザクレイ…
I love how EE said Joker is an upgrade to Sonic. Nowadays there's a strong case for Sonic being the better character
Lol the winning music they played
Couldn’t tell if it was “congrats” music for Zachray or “clown” music for Maiester bc he got bodied
世紀の瞬間
愛してるぜray
それはそうとOPかっこいいね
お前きも
@7:28 It's okay ZackRay, Homing Attack does that to everyone.
ゲームを通じて世界の人交流できるのってええな
Nobody:
Game & Watch: up+B
IMO this is the best Zackray set alongside his first match against Light and Void and the Super Smash Con match against Leo.
Edit: Forgot about the first two matches against Tweek.
I still give the edge to the 15 games Zackray and Shuton played at the recent Umebura . Those games were really fast paced , and both players played super aggressively .
Yo does anyone know the song playing during the Frostbite 2020 Trailer? That shit was clean AF
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
@@rainiestday the goat
Maister needs to respect Arsene more. He was super aggressive, especially in game five, that’s why he got killed so early on the 2nd stock. I can sense he was frustrated. Not respecting Arsene is also the reason he lost game 3. He just threw out the key on the last stock in the most predictable scenario, not respecting Arsene’s disjoints. That was a close match and Maister should’ve played insanely cautious. You know Zack is gonna adapt the more you play, you need to take him out NOW, so be careful.
megaKstudios Eh, Maister curb stomped Zacs joker before so
megaKstudios imo being aggressive against arsene is better than camping especially when arsene is in disadvantage. But yes magister needed to respect arsene so he won’t die early
I think PGStats did a good video on what happened here. Zackray basically learned all of Maister's defensive/counter-offensive options and just stuffed them all out
Dude whyyyy would you pick PS2 against joker ever. Sorry but the height of those platforms benefit Joker WAY too much to be advantageous for anyone else.
Also shoutouts to whoever played the massively triumphant sounding part of the Banjo Kazooie theme at the end there. Perfect for this.
After years of research I have discovered that the only character that Zackray can't play is Lucina. Sad.
my main 😭😭
He used Lucina to beat Void once
What if you want to have a spot in Grand Finals and Summit?
But Zackray brought out the MKLeo Joker and said....
no
At 22:20 he was baited. Lol. He said Katro instead of cuatro and it's suppose to be five. Oh man. I love this guys they are funny.
まさかのめいちゃん
Crazy sonic and g&w were possibly the 2 best characters in the game at the time and we didnt know
my favorite is the big guy on the left who keeps bowing to zack after he wins a game
7:20 "Arious amigou"
Set starts at 3:30
25:16 Maister wipes his nose... I'm so sad
3:05
ザクレイまじで伸びしろしかない。
ザクレイかっこよすぎるーw
24:02
普通に感心したのもあると思うけど、ここで思わずまじか...ってなるのゲッチ使ってたら分かるわ
流石に2ストの差つけられたらゲッチじゃもうどうしようもないから
Clutchest of clutch comebacks
ここまで入れ込んでるゲッチはその辺にいる。けど何故かここまで勝ち上がれてるゲッチはマイスターしかいない、強さがここまで分かりづらいトッププレイヤーはそういない。
23:55こことか酷すぎる。VIPじゃん
ほんそれ。
空下しつこいくらい多く感じるし。
I'm sad ultimate crews isn't a thing. I love crew battles
Same. They had one for the last frostbite, but not ever since.
what is the song they used for the opening?
ruclips.net/video/tc1OuEHUXiw/видео.html
thanks!
Zackray probably felt bad for Maister if he went with joker from the start
I honestly think it wouldn't have worked the reason I think Joker worked against maister is cuz he got to careless from the two games before. He also beat Zackray's Joker before so he probably thought it would be easy again
Nope. Maister beat Zack’s Joker in semis. This time it was more effective because Maister broke down after being killed at 54 from a up smash while he had a big percentage advantage.
@@taxman7617 Zackray also played a bit better too. There's lots of factors.
Peep Zackray's twitter. As another comment noted, he used Sonic to download Maister the first two games. After that, it was a wrap.
@@IronicHavoc He actually adapted to maister, but maister didnt adapt back. Thats why he got killed pretty quickly so many times.
ジョーカーの隠し兵器感すこ
You can see the movement difference from MkLeo's joker and Zackray's joker.
Leo's Joker is better for sure, but Zackray's Joker is the closest easily. No other players who main Joker haven't gotten close up until now.
Dude Zackray makes this game look like marvel vs capcom 2 with those drag downs lol
Then what does Leo turn this game into?
What is the name of the song in the trailer? Sounded really dope
ruclips.net/video/srH34Tjjo9U/видео.html
This is the original song.
But I don’t know who’s singing in the trailer.
ruclips.net/video/tc1OuEHUXiw/видео.html
日本人としてザクレイ勝ったのはうれしいけどゲムヲ使いとしてはマイスターが勝つところ見たかった
ザクレイも勝者側準決でゲムオで勝ってるかられっきとしたゲムオ使い(困惑)
What song was used for the frostbite intro thing
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
Set was fuego....
But I need the song from that trailer though
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
The first two games of Maister were out of control
久しぶりに見に来た
空下上スマで流れ変わったね
That final 3 stock was so rude
最終ラウンドの択とコンボがキモ座りすぎてやべえ
24:00
Zack:So how’d you lose
Maister:I SD’d second stock
Honestly tho that was a good game
フィクサー、世界最強ゲムヲ、それに勝つ日本最強、熱い
Last game was insane
Did Zackray hit Maister with last hitbox of bair in Game 5? I swear he was gonna miss that
i went to sleep when it was 2-0 for maister, thinking dabuz was gonna take it home... WTF!!!!!
ザクレイのキャラは予想つかない
the only man to download maister
Railblazer Hyperbole 😂
@Pillow Oh man, I gotta disagree there.
Is there going to be another crew battle? (Please make it happen)
Download complete oh my god
What song was playing for the frostbite trailer?
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
@@rainiestdayYo thanks, but more importantly, why were you watching this so long after? Lol
Zackray was on some MKleo shit right there
Went from bodied to the bodyer in pure reverse 3-0 fashion
1分あたりから流れてる曲なんて言う曲が知ってる人いたら教えてください！
教えて頂きありがとうございます。
Man. The only person who can beat Zackray at this point is MKLeo
And Samsora. And non auto piloting Maister, and Nairo, and Marss, and...
and a lotta players in Japan
@@taxman7617 ah yes when nairo and maister lost they were definetly autopiloting when the final set was 3-2 and why would maister autopilot when the battle was for summit? Stop johning for other players lol
@@lukeblaker8009 I think you missed the point of my comment.... (I was taking you seriously until you said "lol". Now I cant even look at your comment without laughing)
Tax Man his point still stands
24:00これはわざと空上の最後が当たらないように急降下入れたから、その場に留まり上スマが当たったってことですか？
そうです、俗に言う空上落としです
what was the trailer song?
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
Song in the trailer?
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
Intro song?
It's Meychan's cover of "fixer" by nuyuri
Who did ZackRay talk to after he won? He looked like he was thanking the guy or something like that. Does anyone know?
Nicholas Hidayat probably,the man is shu-ton
勇伊佐見 Oh yeah, I didn’t notice him at first. Thank you.
Too desperate maister. Good run though.
HTT Fan Zac was the desperate one lol 😂
@@DefenestrateYourself to be fair I think both were. Maister was more visible though.
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 Maybe. Props to him for using a weaker character though, and not resorting to desperately character swapping to see what sticks against an enemy.
@@DefenestrateYourself Its not like he is playing a bad character. GAW is solid
フィクサーかっけーなー
Sonic? Oh how the mighty have fallen
すぐしゅーとんのとこ行くのがいいね