Jin and Jack Attempt level three in the headset game | 3 Body Problem | Netflix
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- Jin (Jess Hong) and Jack (John Bradley) encounter other players attempting to solve the three body problem with… varying results.
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Jin and Jack Attempt level three in the headset game | 3 Body Problem | Netflix
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Across continents and decades, five brilliant friends make earth-shattering discoveries as the laws of science unravel and an existential threat emerges. 
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They missed the epic part when he starts the computer, I want this in a scene
isn't this the banker that gave Stannis and Cersei all that gold?
Lol, yep, Mark Gatiss, he's friends with the creators.
@@jeffbachman2949 If you're not trying to get Mark Gatiss into your sci-fi franchise, then you're doing it wrong.
No he is Mycroft, Sherlock's older brother.
Thats a solid incestment if there ever was one..
No. He's a vet that accidently kills all his animals.
Isaac Newton looks suspiciously similar to Mycroft Holmes :P
I never thought Reece Shearsmith would be in this show. What a surprise
Well he is bch, get use to it
So the goal is to have as many survive when there is no solution.
thats why they look up into the stars and find another solution, leave to another planet.
If one survives they all survive.
@@toddkes5890 so they reproduce by mitosis? otherwise you'd need 2 to survive
@@insertcognomen "If one survives" is the phrase from the movie. According to another post the way they reproduce is 2 merge together, then they split into 3-5 'children' who have the combined knowledge of their parents.
The real goal is that this is an indoctrination training simulator... with a bonus objective.
The point is to get them to identify with the Trisolaran, the San-Ti. They are a nameless faceless identity, so this game gives them an identity - all with a particularly unique girl, which is indicative of its designer. That's more of an easter egg though, as she's immediately sacrificed in level 1, but also persistent over EVERY failure.
The point is to explain why they're invading and why they have to. There is no solution to the three-body problem, it's a thought experiment with no known solution. The actual real life theorem is something to checkout here. Practically speaking even if they solved it, that planet cannot sustain life through so many unique cataclysms, all of which are shown.
"If one survives they all survive"... that's because they can be rehydrated. But in this unique anti-gravity situation, rehydration won't work if they are lifted off world. Certain cataclysms are so inherently destructive they lose everything... and there may be more.
The computer army also mirror the Trisolaran themselves - they think as a hive mind, like a computer, they're "one". There is no separation between them, which is why their leader can give orders to so many all at once. They're fundamentally connected. They rely on "guests" to solve the 3-body problem, which are likely divergent thinkers or a subset of their best minds, but they're still attached. They favor these thinkers because that's how the Trisolaran work, they don't favor humans solving issues because typically we aren't necessarily smarter than them, as they are more methodical... though it's suggested that they went through many periods of similar religious doctrine before they advanced past it.
But they do note that brain activity in the subject here was record high, suggesting that they are very interested in our problem solving ability... and how much they identify with the girl, who is a symbolic representation of their own race. A child-like voice, omnipotent, who's begging for help. It's meant to invoke the deaths of their own "children".
And there's a secret "bonus". If a subject were to solve the 3 body problem, or even better, contextualize a better answer to a question they failed to ask appropriately - they could theoretically save the original Trisolaran's... who notably are likely the pacifists who stayed behind. Their culture split, the invaders on ships, but many stayed. Why? Likely because they disagreed with the abandoning of their home and the conquering of another.
Whether that sentiment stayed is unknown, but given that there are 2 sophon computers, likely one at home and one flying, if a user COULD solve the 3-body problem it would be VERY useful for the people at home.
As an experiment it has no solution, the point of it is that it degrades - but a user could, theoretically, come up with a way to fix their original homeworld... or give them data that could be used for them to develop their own solution. Humans are unique, their technology may be primitive but their minds may prove useful. That's likely a distant hope, but should someone ever solve the issue of survival in such a unique way they'd be taking notes.
They'd also refine the simulation to be more effective that way, with better themes and less ways to "game" the game. This likely doesn't happen much given how advanced their technology is, having been refined by earth sympathizers. But it likely has been updated several times - and perhaps some insights gleaned they might not have thought of.
It also gives them a VERY vivid analysis of human behavior to send back - and how they might respond to the idea of the Trisolaran. They avoid showing their true form because they aim to indoctrinate with this program.
But the individual level solution is that survival is not possible given the scenario, and that saving the planet is not a priority. This was the realization of the Trisolaran and what they based their society's plan on - but one could also go another way and ask yourself, "what would you have done?"
The answer a person gives here may be more important because there may be another way to avoid total destruction.
If someone were to say, "Make a dyson sphere, turning a planet into a space ship" or "use ships in superposition to determine predictive paths" they would listen. That might even be possible and get them slapping themselves in the forehead.
But the game ends too quickly for anyone to test that theory - and the boiling alive was meant to give humans this advanced more reason to empathize with the pain of being a Trisolaran... and how seductive calculus was to them before gravity destroyed their civilization utterly. Probably took them AGES to fix that.
They're also tracking how many times it takes average humans to solve the issue - and it's in the hundred. "You're running out of time" suggests that the cataclysms are happening the same way they did on their homeworld. This is a historical reenactment of their own struggle, complete with correct details - as to give people more data to work with, once they learn to start track... as their society likely did. This is also why people see countdowns - it's reflecting their own fear of the clock.
Lotta layers to unpack here, you can go on and on.
The point of the games is to indoctrinate people to agree, wholly, with the Trisolaran's chain of reasoning... and possibly fish for a better answer.
이 장면은 원작의 묘사를 그대로 쓰는 것이 더 재밌었을 듯 합니다. 인간으로 만든 컴퓨터가 참 인상깊었는데
That part's in the show too, but it's in a different game session.
I love the computer scene music so much. Please share it with us
Woww flying horse 😁
Epic
If their civilization is close to ours best solution would be to give the functioning to a computer.
😅wow
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Wait, if there are three suns on the sky and they are in a planet, isn’t this a four body problem?
It's because the planet has a negligible mass relative to the suns; it isn't relevant to the model.
i think its becuase the planet's existence cant affect any of the three stars in anyway.
Yy-yesss, ahem, ahem, ......we're saving that for the spinoff series.
That just makes it worse. The equation still can't be solved using algebra, and using computers to approximate them becomes woefully inaccurate over relevant timescales.
Sorry for the 2 dudes that gotten sliced into half @2:16. Lol 😄😅🤦
is this part of the netflix exist in book?
The levitating part? Yes
The human computer Yes, it's more detailed tho
All the game parts are so much better in the books.
What is the name of the phenomenon? It sounds like "sysergy" to me. Id like to know what that exactly is.
It’s called a syzygy.
“How the Hell do we do that? Nothing can survive here!”
“Well we’ll have to rush mining tech. Underground bunkers. After that we need to rush space tech so we can get into orbit. But once we pull that off it’ll be pretty easy, we’ll just have to - “
“O’Neill cylinders! Right! Those are actually pretty easy to make. Hell we could make them on Earth right now with our current level of tech if money wasn’t an issue.”
“Exactly, and money won’t be here since this is existential survival we’re talking about.”
“I was worried we might have to colonize another star system.”
“What? Hell no! I mean maybe eventually, but O’Neill cylinders are easy to build and will help us right now. We could build thousands, each holding millions of people, in relatively short order. By the time we’re able to travel to other star systems it’ll be fore pure exploration, we’ll long since have saved everyone on the planet from the three suns.”
“Yeah. In hindsight resorting to traveling the vast distances between star systems to colonize another world when it would be so much faster and safer and cheaper to just build O’Neill cylinders is the only thing that makes sense.”
“We’d have to be objectively stupid to not think that up first. Like to the point of being a transparent plot contrivance in a book.”
_Meanwhile…_
Sophon listened intently to the conversation.
“Shit, they’re right,” it said, and relayed the information to its Trisolaran masters via quantum entanglement (ignoring that quantum entanglement doesn’t work that way).
_Soon…_
The Trisolarans listened to Sophon. “Well…shit,” one said. “We really are kind of objectively stupid for going all the way to dimensional folding and invading another planet instead of just building O’Neill cylinders.”
“Truth,” admitted another.
“Of course it’s the truth, we’re objectively incapable of lying, dumbass.”
“We don’t even have asses.”
“I for one,” said a third, “am just sad that we won’t be able to finally rescue those poor people on Gilligan’s Isle.”
una vez su sistema solar tuvo 12 planetas... ahora solo queda trisolaris, los otros fueron tragados por los soles
la superficie de su planeta ya es muy inestable, un eclipse triple mas y se partirá por la mitad
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I mean I also feel a need to bring up the fact that any species that has the ability to fold a planet-sized computer down to the size of a single proton shouldn't have a problem disassembling a star or two, either, which should also allow them to handily solve their three-body problem *while also* giving them plenty of raw material to build O'Neill cylinders or even entire planets.
_ALSO_ need to bring up that supposedly the Trisolarans are from Alpha Centauri, but the Alpha Centauri system _is not a three-body system_ as it was described in the book. Alpha Centauri A and B exist in a stable two-body orbit with each other, while Proxima Centauri orbits the two at such a huge distance that from Earth it appears to be four entire lunar diameters distant from A and B. Insystem, Proxima is 13,000 AU distant from A and B - 1/5th of a light year, or 430 times the radius of Neptune's orbit. It takes more than half a million years for Proxima to orbit A and B.
If the miniseries changes the Trisolarans to be from some other star system than Centauri then their decision to invade Earth makes even _less_ sense, because it measn that to get from whatever system they're from to Sol would necessarily have required passing by like at least a dozen star systems each with abundant mineral resources for building artificial colonies.
I do not care much for this book, is my point. For all its interesting ideas, it lacks _imagination._
@@RogueShadows ¿y el agua? ¿de donde la van a sacar? necesitan mucho mas que nosotros
@@percivaldarkus3537 Water is cosmically abundant, the only thing that's rare is its liquid form (it's much more commonly ice), but I have to imagine that any species that has invented ships capable of bridging the vast distances between the stars has also invented space heaters.
In just the Sol system, for example, just Saturn's rings alone have ten times more water than all of Earth's oceans combined. Jupiter's moon Europa, despite being only 0.8% the total mass of Earth, has twice the water/ice in its oceans compared to Earth's oceans.
This is leaving aside the likelihood - Hell, the necessity, based on their observed tech in this book and later books, like the Droplet - that the Trisolarans are capable of nuclear fusion on a massive scale. They don't need to find water, they just need to find hydrogen (which comprises 90% of all atoms in the universe) and oxygen (also extremely common in the universe, 1% of all atoms, which might not sound like a lot but, trust me, it is) and start fusing them.
@@RogueShadows My brother in Christ, don't ever let logic and deeper understanding of reality/motivations get in the way of a good story. Of course once a civilization has the ability to travel interstellar distances they are far better off utilizing every atom in their own solar system before considering leaving, that's only good sense and efficient. But then we don't get the story of desperate aliens coming to boop us on the nose.
I've enjoyed the series so far, but this scene is silly. Even IF the alignment of all three stars succeeded in momentarily disrupting the planet's surface gravity, the entire planet would accelerate towards the aligned stars. The only way you'd have this effect would be if there was a meaningful difference between the gravitational force from the aligned stars acting on the planet's surface and an object on its surface. At the sort of distance you'd need to be at for the planet to remain habitable, I doubt a neutron star would be dense enough to create this effect.
Read the books it has more math and physics.
In the books, a brief trisolar alignment rips a chunk of the planet off, eventually creating a moon. This is a dramatized retelling of that event
Incorrect. Read the books
@@eden20111 Whatever is written in the books, the physics don't make sense. Consider Newton's formula for universal gravitation F=G(m1*m2 / r^2). If we assume that m1 is some object on the surface of the planet, the gravitational force acting upon it is effectively F = G(m2/r^2). Since the planet isn't burning up when the alignment occurs, it's reasonable to assume there is a roughly Earth-like distance between it and the nearest star. In Earth's case, the Earth exerts roughly G(1.47 x 10^17) on an object at its surface. Our sun exerts roughly G(9.2 x 10^13) on that same object at perihelion. In other words, if you placed the mass of 1,000 identical stars inside the space our sun occupies at the point where Earth is closest in its orbit, it still wouldn't overwhelm the object's gravitational attraction toward the Earth, let alone start pulling objects off the Earth. Edit: To anyone who might criticize, I'm omitting units as I'm simply comparing magnitude
In the books the tidal forces ripped a part of the planet and formed a moon,if didn't just magically made the people float
저 꼬맹이 넣어서 각색하려다가 예원제 캐릭터가 망가짐.
조직이 삼체세계하고 실시간으로 통신한다는걸 예원제가 알고 있었다는 말이 되기 때문임.
THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM SEASON 1 UPDATE
THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM SEASON 2 UPDATE
THE THREE-BODY PROBLEM SEASON 3 UPDATE
I really don't get the point of this game. If the object is to save as much of the alien civilization as possible, then shouldn't it be a "let's build a rocket ship" game?
no, the point is they want to test the player, do they sympathize with npc (civilians) with the game simulation that represent the 3 body problem that san ti has
they want to recruit new followers
just in case if you also miss, this game is created by mike evans and his organization with the help of sophon technology, not by san ti
It’s not a game. It’s a recruitment ad for humans
Tencent’s version much more cool . There are CPU, Monitor, Hard Disk, BUS, etc, using only the emperor’s soldier.
Disappointing Compared To The Chinese Version
Production: meh, no, we are not going to spend a cent to make the most important human in history look like how everyone knows how he looks like. Meh, just for no apparently reasons. Everything else is pretty accurate, the science and historical attire and all. But with the one single most influential human? Nah we are gonna hire someone really doesn’t look like him, wearing a haircut that is the opposite of his, and still call him that. ‘Cause we are fun and all.
Those were just other players not real historic figures
Aren't these video games stories? As in LIES? I thought the San Ti didn't know how to lie. Kinda kills the whole plot, doesn't it!?
But it were humans who monitor the game
From what I understand, in the books, it was humans who invented the game.
It basically tells how they lived. It's possible Wenji compelled them to reveal how they survived and included intricate details like the actual characters the Santi themselves. They cannot lie hence I believe it is one of the strategies Wenje sought to destroy them. Know your enemy. The only challenge is that they don't tell us how they look like. Unless in the half Canon spinoff 4th book.
There's a difference between fairy tales that are completely made up vs. what they reconstructed from their own scant pieces of history.
@@KoflerDavid I think it was developed by them, with the help of the Sophons and Wenje. Though basically those NPCs are the actual Santi. For example, in the books lore the Santi have a leader called the Princeps, more like an emperor or King as shown in the Game. I this how Wenje discovered that they know about the dark forest/Fermi paradox theory. Thus use it to her advantage with Saul/Louji. Because those VR glasses can't be built with our technology, even software of the game it self. Moreover, when Wade discovered the harddrive in the Judgement Day boat belonging to Evans. He found more than 300 petabytes of data, most of which was the three body problem.
The physics part of this show is garbage. Actually, this show is garbage.
The physics actually make sense theoretically. You’re just a moron
Wow this show is actually really dumb.
If they belived in Jesus, they'd be safe.
Nah
Not nah, yeah @@saucevc8353