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I gave up the #1 (dropped to 12) spot because I was torn between Chase and CMC and was leaning CMC as everyone was saying Chase, clear cut #1 last year.......the guy who picked 1 took CMC and won the league
His ADot is also much lower, therefore he’s catching the ball in spots where he is naturally lined up for more YAC. YAC not a complete reflection of ability to run after the catch. There is no universe where anyone would rather have Hill over Brown after the ball is caught.
@@jessemercado5264 I dont think you are understanding yourself lol. If I'm in a league with bonus points for 40 yard + catches, I want Hill. If It's full PPR, I want Amon Ra. Reek gets yards in bunches, Ra is receptions + YAC
You guys do the best analysis, by far of any of the FF podcasts. I appreciate the precise language and your ability to articulate your position. Of course you both might be largely wrong in the end. Lol
My go-to fantasy research in August is to rewatch end-of-season analysis from a few months back. Everyone is fresh off the season and not deep in the offseason rabbit hole
@@teacherblake yep and pre season 2023 right before the season starts. It's a good ego check 😂 You'll be reminded of all the things we were ''100% sure of''' that were dead wrong 😏 Go with those studs that most likely just had an outlier bad season last year.
Could you guys do ten excel spreadsheets of the last 6 years of pre season mid season and end of season ranks. Please put it alphabetically so I don’t have to waste any of my time thanks … lol entitlement
Started a dynasty league last year and it looked like I was reaching getting Lamb in the 1st and Gibbs at 2.2. Looks a lot better now. Throw in a Puka and I feel good about the core of this team
A rookie RB that performed that well would never see scaled back work.... they want to see that the sky is truly the limit with Gibbs. I will happily draft him early 2nd.
OBJ played 12 games his rookie season, missing the first 4 due to a pre-existing injury. Pretty sure he was a top 10 guy after that point but I could be wrong. Not a great comparison for Harrison
I know this is crazy, but in my longest home league I am picking 1st for the first time in ages. The obvious choice is CMC, but I see a ton of value in having Lamb or Breece as well. Tempted to blow up consensus here.
The only thing about Achane is that he couldn’t stay healthy. Does it really make sense to use him more inside the 5? Maybe he’s bulked up, but I’m not certain it makes sense to use him more inside the 5
While he's a threat to cut into work load to keep Kyren fresh, he in NO WAY is a threat. McVay loves this guy and so did I last year. He's a solid pick middle 2nd round
Mid/late rd rb picks are often based on how solidified a guys #2 role is. Corum is THE guy if anything happens with Kyren. If Cam Akers was still there it would be a totally different story. Which is why Cam Akers is on my radar in houston. If something happens with Mixon it's not Dameon pierce and Ogunbawale, Akers would be THE dude.
@@dadgadify Diggs didn’t hit 1k yards until year 3, Davante Adams’s didn’t even get over 500 yards in his second year, Godwin was sub 1k until his third year. Btw I agree, Stroud elevates him, but I think Nico is a dawg on his own too
this seasons's Travis Etienne (who was 2023's RB3). Lots of paralells - same ADP, both have/had rookie RBs that the public is overrating, great pass catching ability
I hope the weekly LIVE STATS feature will be improving this year. Last year it was clunking..slow and frustrating. Please "live stat" should be LIVE.. Not refreshing 7 minutes later to see the score being added to the score...thanks
Puka, garrett, london, mike evans, swift, Josh Jacobs, d. Mont, kittle, DAK and Cousins with Baker on standhy amari cooper on standby and calvin ridley on standby, chase brown on standby in cincy
I have pick 4. I feel like if i go Hall im getting better WRs at the turn. LIke Adams/Evans. I wish you guys would do a show on draft slots and focusing on your best 3 pick scenarios for max points. If i go Hill or Lamb the RBs at the turn are sort of meh. Just feel like the hero RB thing with Hall and then getting 2 stud WRs in the 2nd and 3rd is making my mocks look better so far.
I have the two in half ppr 2 wr 2 rb 1 te 1 flex, and i have the same thoughts. I think i'm going breece or bijan at two. at the end of the day, no one remembers ADP once the season starts. breece last year with decent OL and Qb is 300 + pt season. I RBs at the 2/3 turn are to me riskier than taking like nico collins start of third and like drake london end of 2 for example if they fall.
14 man half-ppr win now and completely all in. Burrow Saquon JTay Tyreek Gwilson Aiyuk Engram I was offered jamaar for garret and a 2026 1st. I’m very high on garret but I could stack chase and burrow. Would not be psyched about losing Garret, is it worth it?
The issue for top rookie WRs is that they go to mediocre/bad QBs. The guys who succeeded went to Burrow, Cousins, and Stafford. I don't think Murray is as accurate as these guys, but he can create on the run and sling the ball. I understand reticence about Marvin Harrison Jr, but it is hard to pass on the talent.
Great show, totally agree that you should make your own list and stick to it. In fantasy football, you really want to play contrarian lineups that project well, and are as correlated as possible. Those are the 3 goals. Contrarian lineups with a high ceiling and correlated potential outcomes. I think this is true regardless of format. For half PPR, here is my top 10 but as I have said before, take it with a grain of salt, as I am just a beginner in my second season at BB. Last year in my first BB lineup I took Mahomes with in the 1.1 hole (go ahead and laugh, I finished 12th lol). By the 4th lineup of 4 I had decided that I should wait until at least the third round to take a QB. I had McCaffrey as #1 in my list by then, although JJ was going #1 last year. That lineup did much better (losing in BB Semis and missing BB finals by half a point, after I won in the Quarters by 50 points). So here is my top 7 for those who care... too lazy to explain my whole top 10.... McCaffrey #1 - only true WR/RB "joker" in the league in my opinion who could be an all pro at either position, still #1 for me just like last year Hill #2 - Current leader in odds for Offensive Player of the Year - above even McCaffrey, I think highest ceiling among any WR, #3 Lamb - never falls to here so I don't get him, which is ok by me, Dallas worries me a bit, #4 Bijan - they plan to use him CMC role, and I think could really blow up this year, #5 Chase, it is close between him and Jefferson for me, but Chase gets a healthy Burrow to start, #6 Jefferson, sometimes he falls me here, #7 Breece Hall, some injury risk puts Bijan above him for me but love the ceiling from so much pass catching work plus carries.
I'm so tired of hearing people act like the Eagles won't be pushing because Kelce retired. Hurts can squat 600 pounds. Yes kelce was amazing. But even Kelce said it really doesn't matter who at center Hurts is getting that 1 yd
Had the 1.01 in my “loser gets humiliated” league last night. Took CeeDee with the first overall. Last time I had the 1.01 and took CMC, he was out for the year. He’s due
Everyone wants to extrapolate Jefferson's numbers for those 4 games without cousins.. he played the Lions twice who had one of the worst passing defenses in the NFL last year.. look at the game Jefferson played against the Packers.. he didn't do anything cause they actually had a defense.. Jefferson is not as QB proof as everyone thinks
Brother Justin Jefferson in the 2022 season had a 1 reception 5 target game for 15 yards with Cousins at QB vs the Packers 😂😂🤦🏽♂️ Jaire Alexander is an all pro CB yea it’s a hard matchup but that’s for every WR
I don’t know if I would take cmc with the 1 pick. I probably would but I definitely wouldn’t feel great about it. Something tells me that he won’t stay on the field nearly as much as last season
I hate my current approach to the 1st round in UD this year because I rank both Bijan and Breece in my top 5 but I can't bring myself to pick them there because I the WR landscape is garbage past the 1st round (side note I don't like getting the first pick this year for the same reason, I have to take CMC but I then hate my WR core). As a side note I'm mildly scared of the fact that I have MHJ as my WR 13 when he is going off the board 13th overall
If I had first pick overall, I'm going cmc and then sleep like a baby. I don't think he gave any reason last season to make me doubt the pick for this year.
@princekubakuba9682 I guarantee you Chase isn't going to be the one to bust. In fact, I think he can finish top 3 wrs easily. It's AJ Brown for me. He's great. But I don't think he's gonna perform to his adp. Especially with Smith there.
Being in the slot doesn't matter. If you're good the team will put you slot or outside and it won't matter. If they are good and get open they are getting the ball!
I was super high on CMC when the staff was like, “I’m not worried about his work load” before the draft… and that switched to “we gotta save him from himself”… after I drafted him… I would have went Robinson or Hall… Elite RBs are at a priority… go ahead and get those receivers… I’ll get 2 elite RBs and I’ll take a Debo, Aiyuk, Evans, Waddle, DK and so on in the 3rd and so on… and be just fine… in the 3rd at RB, you got Jacob’s, Rachad White, Pacheco, Cook and Walker in the 40s… I mean you do you… but I’m sure I’ll beat you with whatever WR duo I have with like Bjon and Gibbs or Taylor
Really? Wrs and Rbs seem to be equality a priority. The Wr drop off is almost as weak if not weaker than the rbs. Deebo is injury prone, Aiyuk is about to get traded. Evans is getting older. I Would rather have a MHJ or Garrett Wilson with Gibbs than Gibbs and Taylor and sacrifice a top 7 wr for One of those guys.
Plus u can get James Cook as a rb who is a ppr machine so too me its far more safe to get that ceiling on wr and rb. However, I actually got the analogy of Bijan/Gibbs with Taylor. I traded Cook for Taylor and now its much more convenient. Taylor with Gibbs and I get to keep a top 7 wr with MHJ and snag Nico as my wr Who is top 6. Best team in my league.
@@ethanolthegoat I would disagree WRs drop off more than running backs… Starting around the 8th you got C Watson, D Johnson, Odunze, Sutton, C Samuel (or any bill receiver really), and Palmer… all dudes who are #1s for now (we will see how camp plays out) In that same stretch you got J Williams, Singletary and Chubb who are #1 guys… This is not to mention the #2 WR options that go late… Speaking of MHJ, I’m not a fan of any rookie WR, statistically only about half of the first round WR do anything of value their first year… last year was Njigba, Quentin Johnston, and Zay Flowers was 29th (so-so)… 2022 it was London, Dotson and Burks Year before that Bateman and K Toney… and so on In that 3rd round you can’t trust Henry, (or Pitman), or Rashaad White, so that leave you with Jacob’s and Pacheco… ya and in the 4th you got cooks and Walker…. But who else? You got 5WR going in that round… 5th and 6th isn’t a bad spot for an RB, but it’s that late 7th and on, 8th and on where WR is a way bigger value
@@Thoughtpologetics Well first of all, I’m a packer fan and Watson barely stays on the field and is definitely not a Wr1 in any Wr1 form really. Even if he’s on the field he gets like no real wr 1 production because the packers spread the ball through 4 capable wrs and 2 really solid tes. He’s got a role but that isn’t a wr1 type role. He has to situate and Diontae isn’t good enough to be a wr 1. That’s why he’s outplayed by Pickens and the panthers offense is horrendous.
@@Thoughtpologetics Bruh Odunze is literally surrounded by 2 all pro wrs. He ain’t no Wr 1 better yet a Wr 2! Keenan Allen just had 1400 and Dj Moore just had a career year. What do u mean he’s wr 1. Even if he’s somehow wr1. He’s not gonna have any volume Carry out cause the load is separated by all 3. No humanly way he’s a wr1 type player
I am focusing on running backs this year. Got burned going receivers last year with Justin Jefferson. Plenty of good receivers, but scarce on the rb's, imo Plenty of Tight Ends as well. I think everyone will have high-scoring teams, especially, with the new kickoff rule.
Montgomery is the Goal-Line back and TD maker. Gibbs is the passing back and big-play maker. You can't go wrong with both, imo The Lions are stacked. All their major skill players are fantasy greats.
I had Gibbs and Monty last year and it worked well for most of the season. Took out the frustration of being disappointed half the time at least. For redraft with extra lineup spots, not best ball.
I have Justin Jefferson as the 5th best.... Wr... Not even a top 5 option in fantasy. People are tripping one trick Pony with no horn. Buddy can blow the horns off a longhorn, but as a player hes got no magic dust and has dirt on his huffs like a one trick pony. Unicorn like Jjettas needs another Unicorn, but no way JJ can be a good qb in his first year. Minimum gonna take 3 years to develop. People trippin man.
I took CD first overal in my friends $100 draft and ended up with CD/Evans/Henry/Stevenson. I prefer the balance of your who's who with Henry/Pacheco/Mixon+a top reciever rather than CMC+ Waddle/Snith. Also, with exception to Henry you can look at the regression numbers of RB's with that many Carrys + receptions. CMC is a healthy risk as well. History says CMC is a big risk.
I got CMC/Evans/Waddle/Cook/Tua/Kincaid… wanted Stephenson but he went 2 picks earlier… but I got Z. White/j Williams/Ford and Benson on my bench… oh with Pickens, C Watson and Palmer With that upgraded line in Oakland I like white, Denver should lean on Williams… it’s just Watson and Palmer were dart throws, could be #1s… could be 2s… who knows
@@princekubakuba9682Evans in the second for 12 team aint bad. What’s terrible is Stevenson in the 4th when he coulda prolly got DK, Cooper, Cupp, or even Kelce/ La Porta if they dropped
Lol thats a nice strategy. I would have gotten Breece considering the tripple dipple of rb1 is gonna be extremely hard with CMC. Than Im getting a wr like Waddle with far more upside and elite scoring upside for a wr. Than U have Breece, but Henry and Taylor can still fall here. So u get Breece Henry/Taylor. Even better would be getting Taylor Henry back to back. Than u get Breece, Henry and Waddle. Instead of Ceedee Henry, Taylor/Waddle.
Ceedee sat out a lot of 4th quarters due to blowing teams out or teams blowing them out. So, if the Dolphins played in more closer games, Tyreek would've scored more, then I can also say if the Cowboys played in more closer games, Ceedee would've crushed even more. I'm just saying.
Three are quite a few teams to stack up players this year. Very intriguing. Detroit Houston Philly Dolphins Rams Cowgirls Man, I am sure there are a few more. It is going to be a very fun fantasy year, imo Even the Packers and Colts.
10 team 2QB league. I have first pick. I won’t be taking CMC. Because it’s a 2QB league, RBs stay on the board longer. I am legitimately leaning for Ceedee or ASRB at 1.
Hey ty for the content. How underrated are the Bills and Chiefs Receiver's this draft? You know...some of the best QBs in the league throwing the ball. Big gambles but wow there's bound to be a star emerge from one or both of those teams. Can we also not forget about players like Diggs (highly undervalued for no reason) and previous RB leaders like Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor
Some would say Diggs is overvalued at this point. His advanced stats have all regressed to pretty mid, and he’s going like 20 spots above Tank Dell who I’d argue could easily have a better season than Diggs
While this isn’t at all a bad list or video when taken in no context, it’s like these guys don’t know how their own website’s fantasy football works. I’m Underdog Best Ball there are 3 WRs started and only 2 RBs, leading to an inherent bias of valuing top end WRs more in the first two rounds
Ppr 12team 1qb 2rb 2wr 1te 1flex I have option to keep 3 and I have the first pick Breece 2nd rd pick 24 no brainer Etienne 3rd rd pick 25 Laporta 7th rd no brainer questions Would you pass on mccafrey for ceedee? Would you start with all 3 Mccafrey,hall, and Etienne and have lowly wr core How would you go about this draft?
Dont sugarcoat how Justin Jefferson played those last 4 games with Nobodys at QB saying he was on pace for a 2000 yard season if they did that over 17 games. Thats Misleading. He had 2 Blow up games and 2 Sorry games. Now thats the Truth
Breece Hall is going to get insured week 2 and ruin a lot of peoples seasons. I shouldn’t say that out loud. I’m just nervous staying away from him this year.
The top end of your team is mid. No cap, a team with a bunch of mid+ players can be great in real life, but that does not help you win fantasy football.
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All I remember is listening to this channel last year and drafting Chase over cmc at 2 and it made me sick all year.
I gave up the #1 (dropped to 12) spot because I was torn between Chase and CMC and was leaning CMC as everyone was saying Chase, clear cut #1 last year.......the guy who picked 1 took CMC and won the league
That's nothing. I picked Ekeler over mccaffrey 🤢
Even god can’t help you guys.
@@joseamieva2168 😂🤣😅😆😒🤢🤮
Amon Ra was 2nd in yards after catch 2nd only to Lamb. It's impressive that he is topping Tyreek Hill on the same # of receptions...
His ADot is also much lower, therefore he’s catching the ball in spots where he is naturally lined up for more YAC. YAC not a complete reflection of ability to run after the catch. There is no universe where anyone would rather have Hill over Brown after the ball is caught.
@jessemercado5264 Read that back to yourself. Are you saying you would rather have Brown or Hill after the ball is caught?
@@jessemercado5264 I dont think you are understanding yourself lol. If I'm in a league with bonus points for 40 yard + catches, I want Hill. If It's full PPR, I want Amon Ra.
Reek gets yards in bunches, Ra is receptions + YAC
@@jessemercado5264 you’re crazy
What@@jessemercado5264
You guys do the best analysis, by far of any of the FF podcasts. I appreciate the precise language and your ability to articulate your position.
Of course you both might be largely wrong in the end. Lol
They are ALWAYS wrong
This will be the 33rd year of my dynasty 16 team keeper league
We were OG’s of FF
I thought Tank Bigsby would be the steal of the draft last year. Lol
@@MoneyMan6969everybody is always wrong
They're UP there. Sal Vetri is also VERY statistically and analytically inclined.
@@chandand001 iykyk
Could you guys present preseason rankings vs end of season for the last 10 years.
Idea for content
My go-to fantasy research in August is to rewatch end-of-season analysis from a few months back. Everyone is fresh off the season and not deep in the offseason rabbit hole
@@teacherblake Fewer "why CMC is a bust in 2024" hot takes
@@teacherblake yep and pre season 2023 right before the season starts. It's a good ego check 😂 You'll be reminded of all the things we were ''100% sure of''' that were dead wrong 😏 Go with those studs that most likely just had an outlier bad season last year.
Ten years lol u asking for a lot
Could you guys do ten excel spreadsheets of the last 6 years of pre season mid season and end of season ranks. Please put it alphabetically so I don’t have to waste any of my time thanks … lol entitlement
Josh and Hayden's videos helped me win it all last year. I'm trusting them with my life this year. Ride or die baby
who u takin at TE?
Wow. Can I get in the leagues you guys are in? Drop-off after 10? Running out of guys so you default to Aiyuk? 😅 Sign me up!!
Great call Josh. I totally agree about the Saquan take, I was hoping more and more people would be avoiding him and letting him drop some more.
Started a dynasty league last year and it looked like I was reaching getting Lamb in the 1st and Gibbs at 2.2. Looks a lot better now. Throw in a Puka and I feel good about the core of this team
Bro they're not going to Bench David Montgomery 🤣
Yeah they’re gonna split touches again tbh, but you do what to watch who the lions play against
Gibbs is good but Montgomery is no chump.
A rookie RB that performed that well would never see scaled back work.... they want to see that the sky is truly the limit with Gibbs. I will happily draft him early 2nd.
@@vinnynunziata gibbs is tiny. hes not meant for a full workload
Why no hats this episode?
I agree with pretty much all of this.
OBJ played 12 games his rookie season, missing the first 4 due to a pre-existing injury. Pretty sure he was a top 10 guy after that point but I could be wrong. Not a great comparison for Harrison
I picked him and Landry up off the waiver wire that year and won the league because of it.
King Kyren is gonna make this video look silly within the first two weeks of the season
I cant begin to understand how JT wasnt even mentioned, let alone picking Aiyuk or Nico above him.
can we get underdog in Connecticut?
I know this is crazy, but in my longest home league I am picking 1st for the first time in ages. The obvious choice is CMC, but I see a ton of value in having Lamb or Breece as well. Tempted to blow up consensus here.
All so equal you can go with least injury prone, that is Lamb!!!
I’m leaning Lamb
I’m in the same exact boat, I feel like I’m heavily leaning towards Lamb.
Love that most of my player takes in the first round align with you two. Great video, as always!
lol its basically adp
The only thing about Achane is that he couldn’t stay healthy. Does it really make sense to use him more inside the 5? Maybe he’s bulked up, but I’m not certain it makes sense to use him more inside the 5
My PPR league draft is in August. Wish me luck.
Aiyuk at 13 is INSANE man hell no
LOL I wouldn't even consider Aiyuk unless he fell to the 3rd this year.
all he needs is 50 more targets than last year :D
Idk I just don’t think Corum is a real threat to Kyren. Like everyone thought Zamir would be to Jacobs.
While he's a threat to cut into work load to keep Kyren fresh, he in NO WAY is a threat. McVay loves this guy and so did I last year. He's a solid pick middle 2nd round
Mid/late rd rb picks are often based on how solidified a guys #2 role is. Corum is THE guy if anything happens with Kyren. If Cam Akers was still there it would be a totally different story. Which is why Cam Akers is on my radar in houston. If something happens with Mixon it's not Dameon pierce and Ogunbawale, Akers would be THE dude.
@@christianmaas8934💯 He's looked good. You'd never guess he was coming off an achillies injury
So sick of people saying Nico is an average receiver elevated by Stroud. Thank you guys for giving him his flowers. He’s a dawg
Okay. He had just over 900 yards in his first two (2) seasons without Stroud and almost 1300 yards in his one (1) season with Stroud.
@@dadgadify not every receiver comes into his own in his first two seasons
@@elbenjas4003 sure but you don’t usually see the lack of progress in year two compared to the first
@@dadgadify Diggs didn’t hit 1k yards until year 3, Davante Adams’s didn’t even get over 500 yards in his second year, Godwin was sub 1k until his third year.
Btw I agree, Stroud elevates him, but I think Nico is a dawg on his own too
They have too many wrs
15:00 draft order is sooooo random. last season I was catching mid-late picks, but rn I have 3 Weekly winners teams all got the 1.01 lol
Got a feeling James Cook will be a top 5 RB. Not really anybody behind him to eat up carries, so I like him a lot
this seasons's Travis Etienne (who was 2023's RB3). Lots of paralells - same ADP, both have/had rookie RBs that the public is overrating, great pass catching ability
If he can get the TD’s for sure
Frick hope not. I think like this Davis guy goal line tho
I’m not as high on Jefferson… No QB no Fing dice… non ppr no thanks!
agreed
20,000 views in under 24 hours. Holy fuck, best ball is blowing up, great content, nice work!!
I hope the weekly LIVE STATS feature will be improving this year. Last year it was clunking..slow and frustrating. Please "live stat" should be LIVE.. Not refreshing 7 minutes later to see the score being added to the score...thanks
Are featured drafts dropped randomly or on a set day of the week?
Can you do 2 QB starting draft?
So if I believe that a RB is going to be a top 3 RB and I can get him in the fourth round would it be wise to pick 3 WO's with the first three picks?
Puka, garrett, london, mike evans, swift, Josh Jacobs, d. Mont, kittle, DAK and Cousins with Baker on standhy amari cooper on standby and calvin ridley on standby, chase brown on standby in cincy
Saying CMC has a "bunch of touches on his body" was an odd way to say he's a workhorse back 😂
Grow up bro
Historically, most RBs with his touch total regress in some capacity the next season.
@@Bigg50_ get over yourself, it's a joke
U the only one thinking gay thoughts here… my advice is just follow your heart we accept you 😊
@@a_wretch_like_me9665fr it was funny
I have pick 4. I feel like if i go Hall im getting better WRs at the turn. LIke Adams/Evans. I wish you guys would do a show on draft slots and focusing on your best 3 pick scenarios for max points. If i go Hill or Lamb the RBs at the turn are sort of meh. Just feel like the hero RB thing with Hall and then getting 2 stud WRs in the 2nd and 3rd is making my mocks look better so far.
I have the two in half ppr 2 wr 2 rb 1 te 1 flex, and i have the same thoughts. I think i'm going breece or bijan at two. at the end of the day, no one remembers ADP once the season starts. breece last year with decent OL and Qb is 300 + pt season. I RBs at the 2/3 turn are to me riskier than taking like nico collins start of third and like drake london end of 2 for example if they fall.
@@briant7732 Yeah those 3 RBs are now showing up in espn mocks as the 3rd and 4th ranked players.
14 man half-ppr win now and completely all in.
Burrow
Saquon
JTay
Tyreek
Gwilson
Aiyuk
Engram
I was offered jamaar for garret and a 2026 1st. I’m very high on garret but I could stack chase and burrow. Would not be psyched about losing Garret, is it worth it?
Is this a dynasty team? How in a 14 man league did you end up with 3x1st round guys and 2x2nd rounders?
The issue for top rookie WRs is that they go to mediocre/bad QBs. The guys who succeeded went to Burrow, Cousins, and Stafford. I don't think Murray is as accurate as these guys, but he can create on the run and sling the ball. I understand reticence about Marvin Harrison Jr, but it is hard to pass on the talent.
Great show, fellas.
Great show, totally agree that you should make your own list and stick to it. In fantasy football, you really want to play contrarian lineups that project well, and are as correlated as possible. Those are the 3 goals. Contrarian lineups with a high ceiling and correlated potential outcomes. I think this is true regardless of format. For half PPR, here is my top 10 but as I have said before, take it with a grain of salt, as I am just a beginner in my second season at BB. Last year in my first BB lineup I took Mahomes with in the 1.1 hole (go ahead and laugh, I finished 12th lol). By the 4th lineup of 4 I had decided that I should wait until at least the third round to take a QB. I had McCaffrey as #1 in my list by then, although JJ was going #1 last year. That lineup did much better (losing in BB Semis and missing BB finals by half a point, after I won in the Quarters by 50 points). So here is my top 7 for those who care... too lazy to explain my whole top 10.... McCaffrey #1 - only true WR/RB "joker" in the league in my opinion who could be an all pro at either position, still #1 for me just like last year Hill #2 - Current leader in odds for Offensive Player of the Year - above even McCaffrey, I think highest ceiling among any WR, #3 Lamb - never falls to here so I don't get him, which is ok by me, Dallas worries me a bit, #4 Bijan - they plan to use him CMC role, and I think could really blow up this year, #5 Chase, it is close between him and Jefferson for me, but Chase gets a healthy Burrow to start, #6 Jefferson, sometimes he falls me here, #7 Breece Hall, some injury risk puts Bijan above him for me but love the ceiling from so much pass catching work plus carries.
I'm so tired of hearing people act like the Eagles won't be pushing because Kelce retired. Hurts can squat 600 pounds. Yes kelce was amazing. But even Kelce said it really doesn't matter who at center Hurts is getting that 1 yd
Not when he’s playing against the Bucs
Had the 1.01 in my “loser gets humiliated” league last night. Took CeeDee with the first overall. Last time I had the 1.01 and took CMC, he was out for the year. He’s due
Same thing happened to me the year I took David Johnson as the 1.01. LOL
@@RustynRose I remember that! Crazy, lol. You can’t trust RB’s. I took Nick Chubb last year with the 1.10
But you also can't not take CMC lol. He's too good.
I'm gonna take CMC, but Lamb is tempting being that injury rate for RBs is higher...Lamb is gonna have a monster year
Everyone wants to extrapolate Jefferson's numbers for those 4 games without cousins.. he played the Lions twice who had one of the worst passing defenses in the NFL last year.. look at the game Jefferson played against the Packers.. he didn't do anything cause they actually had a defense.. Jefferson is not as QB proof as everyone thinks
Brother Justin Jefferson in the 2022 season had a 1 reception 5 target game for 15 yards with Cousins at QB vs the Packers 😂😂🤦🏽♂️ Jaire Alexander is an all pro CB yea it’s a hard matchup but that’s for every WR
Wait the Packers had a defense? Packers fans don't think so. They gave up 33 points to the Panthers and fired Joe Barry end of season...
Exactly
you’re cheese colored glasses are blinding my eyes. jj +koc are qb proof.
Got CeeDee at 4 in a recent draft…now just kicking myself that I didn’t take Waddle at 21. I just love Nico so much haha
I would pass on Waddle too. Don’t trust him
Nico is the guy don’t doubt that pick tbh
Waddle cant stay healthy
Nico better
waddle could have a great szn... but i'd bet the over on whatever missed games is
I live in Saskatchewan Canada and i cant get access to underdog fantasy
CMC and Lamb were my first 2 picks last year, definitely not happening this year.
I don’t know if I would take cmc with the 1 pick. I probably would but I definitely wouldn’t feel great about it. Something tells me that he won’t stay on the field nearly as much as last season
Since Cee Dee Lamb is holding out is he not considered a Top 3 Pick Risk?
I hate my current approach to the 1st round in UD this year because I rank both Bijan and Breece in my top 5 but I can't bring myself to pick them there because I the WR landscape is garbage past the 1st round (side note I don't like getting the first pick this year for the same reason, I have to take CMC but I then hate my WR core).
As a side note I'm mildly scared of the fact that I have MHJ as my WR 13 when he is going off the board 13th overall
Many receivers in the first round will bust. Chase and JJ will bust.
@@princekubakuba9682 many definitely will I'm less certain about which ones specifically
If I had first pick overall, I'm going cmc and then sleep like a baby. I don't think he gave any reason last season to make me doubt the pick for this year.
@princekubakuba9682 I guarantee you Chase isn't going to be the one to bust. In fact, I think he can finish top 3 wrs easily. It's AJ Brown for me. He's great. But I don't think he's gonna perform to his adp. Especially with Smith there.
I'm avoiding Harrison in every draft at his adp. He's going way to early imo.
Being in the slot doesn't matter. If you're good the team will put you slot or outside and it won't matter. If they are good and get open they are getting the ball!
I was super high on CMC when the staff was like, “I’m not worried about his work load” before the draft… and that switched to “we gotta save him from himself”… after I drafted him…
I would have went Robinson or Hall… Elite RBs are at a priority… go ahead and get those receivers… I’ll get 2 elite RBs and I’ll take a Debo, Aiyuk, Evans, Waddle, DK and so on in the 3rd and so on… and be just fine… in the 3rd at RB, you got Jacob’s, Rachad White, Pacheco, Cook and Walker in the 40s…
I mean you do you… but I’m sure I’ll beat you with whatever WR duo I have with like Bjon and Gibbs or Taylor
Really? Wrs and Rbs seem to be equality a priority. The Wr drop off is almost as weak if not weaker than the rbs. Deebo is injury prone, Aiyuk is about to get traded. Evans is getting older. I Would rather have a MHJ or Garrett Wilson with Gibbs than Gibbs and Taylor and sacrifice a top 7 wr for One of those guys.
Plus u can get James Cook as a rb who is a ppr machine so too me its far more safe to get that ceiling on wr and rb. However, I actually got the analogy of Bijan/Gibbs with Taylor. I traded Cook for Taylor and now its much more convenient. Taylor with Gibbs and I get to keep a top 7 wr with MHJ and snag Nico as my wr Who is top 6. Best team in my league.
@@ethanolthegoat I would disagree WRs drop off more than running backs…
Starting around the 8th you got C Watson, D Johnson, Odunze, Sutton, C Samuel (or any bill receiver really), and Palmer… all dudes who are #1s for now (we will see how camp plays out)
In that same stretch you got J Williams, Singletary and Chubb who are #1 guys…
This is not to mention the #2 WR options that go late…
Speaking of MHJ, I’m not a fan of any rookie WR, statistically only about half of the first round WR do anything of value their first year… last year was Njigba, Quentin Johnston, and Zay Flowers was 29th (so-so)…
2022 it was London, Dotson and Burks
Year before that Bateman and K Toney… and so on
In that 3rd round you can’t trust Henry, (or Pitman), or Rashaad White, so that leave you with Jacob’s and Pacheco… ya and in the 4th you got cooks and Walker…. But who else? You got 5WR going in that round…
5th and 6th isn’t a bad spot for an RB, but it’s that late 7th and on, 8th and on where WR is a way bigger value
@@Thoughtpologetics Well first of all, I’m a packer fan and Watson barely stays on the field and is definitely not a Wr1 in any Wr1 form really. Even if he’s on the field he gets like no real wr 1 production because the packers spread the ball through 4 capable wrs and 2 really solid tes. He’s got a role but that isn’t a wr1 type role. He has to situate and Diontae isn’t good enough to be a wr 1. That’s why he’s outplayed by Pickens and the panthers offense is horrendous.
@@Thoughtpologetics Bruh Odunze is literally surrounded by 2 all pro wrs. He ain’t no Wr 1 better yet a Wr 2! Keenan Allen just had 1400 and Dj Moore just had a career year. What do u mean he’s wr 1. Even if he’s somehow wr1. He’s not gonna have any volume Carry out cause the load is separated by all 3. No humanly way he’s a wr1 type player
Hill out scored 22' Jefferson (w/cousins) a big no no (and without Addison)
I am focusing on running backs this year. Got burned going receivers last year with Justin Jefferson. Plenty of good receivers, but scarce on the rb's, imo Plenty of Tight Ends as well. I think everyone will have high-scoring teams, especially, with the new kickoff rule.
I have a tough time deciding between AJ Brown and Puka Nukua in a full ppr league.
Brown easily. I like Nukua, but I see a regression in 24, especially with Kupp back healthy.
Montgomery is the Goal-Line back and TD maker. Gibbs is the passing back and big-play maker. You can't go wrong with both, imo The Lions are stacked. All their major skill players are fantasy greats.
I had Gibbs and Monty last year and it worked well for most of the season. Took out the frustration of being disappointed half the time at least. For redraft with extra lineup spots, not best ball.
Is anyone concerned about the Play of the Vikings QBs thus killing JJ stock?? For a top 5 pick that's alot of risk.
I have Justin Jefferson as the 5th best.... Wr... Not even a top 5 option in fantasy. People are tripping one trick Pony with no horn. Buddy can blow the horns off a longhorn, but as a player hes got no magic dust and has dirt on his huffs like a one trick pony. Unicorn like Jjettas needs another Unicorn, but no way JJ can be a good qb in his first year. Minimum gonna take 3 years to develop. People trippin man.
@@ethanolthegoatAGREE.
@@DonMiller-p3x This ain’t Jettas year
McCaffery is on the madden cover I’m nervous
Dragnet Music!
@@b.a.samuelshe is hurt.
I took CD first overal in my friends $100 draft and ended up with CD/Evans/Henry/Stevenson. I prefer the balance of your who's who with Henry/Pacheco/Mixon+a top reciever rather than CMC+ Waddle/Snith.
Also, with exception to Henry you can look at the regression numbers of RB's with that many Carrys + receptions. CMC is a healthy risk as well. History says CMC is a big risk.
Love that start.
Horrible draft. Evan’s in the 2nd round? What were u smoking
I got CMC/Evans/Waddle/Cook/Tua/Kincaid… wanted Stephenson but he went 2 picks earlier… but I got Z. White/j Williams/Ford and Benson on my bench… oh with Pickens, C Watson and Palmer
With that upgraded line in Oakland I like white, Denver should lean on Williams… it’s just Watson and Palmer were dart throws, could be #1s… could be 2s… who knows
@@princekubakuba9682Evans in the second for 12 team aint bad. What’s terrible is Stevenson in the 4th when he coulda prolly got DK, Cooper, Cupp, or even Kelce/ La Porta if they dropped
Lol thats a nice strategy. I would have gotten Breece considering the tripple dipple of rb1 is gonna be extremely hard with CMC. Than Im getting a wr like Waddle with far more upside and elite scoring upside for a wr. Than U have Breece, but Henry and Taylor can still fall here. So u get Breece Henry/Taylor. Even better would be getting Taylor Henry back to back. Than u get Breece, Henry and Waddle. Instead of Ceedee Henry, Taylor/Waddle.
Ceedee sat out a lot of 4th quarters due to blowing teams out or teams blowing them out. So, if the Dolphins played in more closer games, Tyreek would've scored more, then I can also say if the Cowboys played in more closer games, Ceedee would've crushed even more. I'm just saying.
This is the one boys 🤝🏻
Really wish Josh could do public Underdog drafts- come draft Saquan that high in my lobbies 🙏🐋
saquon is going to ball out
Biggest problem with AJ Brown was the OC ran 12 different plays and they were predictable.
As a reminder, the Vikings have a crappy QB situation and hamstring injuries have a way of coming back
Only problem w/Jets is when K'arron Rodgers blows out the other achilles in game #2 of this season.
Who would you suggest I keep between Ceedee for a 2nd round pick or Jonathan Taylor for a 7th round pick? 10 team full ppr league.
Lamb
Taylor + another stud
Full PPR means Lamb
Why does everyone ignore that Bijan had as many fumbles as rushing TD's?
Nobody is cause his usage alone outweighs fumbles. Same as Josh Allen, his usage outweighs his interceptions.
@@MH-yp4orthis is false
@@TheSentry603super dee duper false
Fumbles lost are a fickle stat from year to year
why not Maine????
How can you say Wilson is miles off top ten but have a better chance at number 1 wr over ARSB?
Three are quite a few teams to stack up players this year. Very intriguing.
Detroit
Houston
Philly
Dolphins
Rams
Cowgirls
Man, I am sure there are a few more. It is going to be a very fun fantasy year, imo
Even the Packers and Colts.
Carolina
Denver
BILLS
INDY?? AR5 & Pittman 🤷🏻♂️ my QB1 & WR1.. got Bijan, Gibbs, & LaPorta 1-3
10 team 2QB league. I have first pick. I won’t be taking CMC. Because it’s a 2QB league, RBs stay on the board longer. I am legitimately leaning for Ceedee or ASRB at 1.
CeeDee over Amon easily.
I dont think I've ever seen 2 jets in the top 10 fantasy rankings in my life
Hey ty for the content. How underrated are the Bills and Chiefs Receiver's this draft? You know...some of the best QBs in the league throwing the ball. Big gambles but wow there's bound to be a star emerge from one or both of those teams. Can we also not forget about players like Diggs (highly undervalued for no reason) and previous RB leaders like Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor
Some would say Diggs is overvalued at this point. His advanced stats have all regressed to pretty mid, and he’s going like 20 spots above Tank Dell who I’d argue could easily have a better season than Diggs
While this isn’t at all a bad list or video when taken in no context, it’s like these guys don’t know how their own website’s fantasy football works.
I’m Underdog Best Ball there are 3 WRs started and only 2 RBs, leading to an inherent bias of valuing top end WRs more in the first two rounds
Cmon Maine!! When can we get on board??
Am I tripping where is Chase at
🤓 Keep 2: J.Chase in 3rd, Tank Dell as last pick, or Olave in 8th?!?? @ me please.
(other lock is Achane in 10th)
I will take Olav e in the 8th, no competition for him.
Was Kyrien really efficient last year I’ve heard it said he was not?
He was a Red Zone performer. Remember one TD equals 60 yards in points.
Hayden is the GOAT
Ppr 12team
1qb
2rb
2wr
1te
1flex
I have option to keep 3 and I have the first pick
Breece 2nd rd pick 24 no brainer
Etienne 3rd rd pick 25
Laporta 7th rd no brainer
questions
Would you pass on mccafrey for ceedee?
Would you start with all 3
Mccafrey,hall, and Etienne and have lowly wr core
How would you go about this draft?
I have to keep atleast 1 player
someone please explain how a guy from switzerland is playing i am from uk and cant play
Your government hates you :)
Dont sugarcoat how Justin Jefferson played those last 4 games with Nobodys at QB saying he was on pace for a 2000 yard season if they did that over 17 games. Thats Misleading. He had 2 Blow up games and 2 Sorry games. Now thats the Truth
Puka not even going to be WR1 on his own squad. Crazy people are taking this early.
who knew Jim Gaffigan was also into fantasy football. good on ya Jim
Im blessed i did a league with a bunch of friends and they let me get waddle at 58
CEEDEE is not playing and hasn't played since last year. Dallas is a mess. I would pass on him unless I was 5th overall.
Bijan has the second easiest RB schedule.
Breece Hall is going to get insured week 2 and ruin a lot of peoples seasons. I shouldn’t say that out loud. I’m just nervous staying away from him this year.
No Kelce? biggest point pick up vs rivals.
You can pick up Kelce pretty reliably in the 2nd round this year IMO
Nico ok u guys are screwing w me right did u forget about the colts being a team
The top end of your team is mid. No cap, a team with a bunch of mid+ players can be great in real life, but that does not help you win fantasy football.
Ceedee Lamb is not a better pick than CMC imo. I don’t think CeeDee will ever top what he did last year.
so, it is "all wrong" and then you basically list off the 85 percentile draft order with a couple small moves. lol.
I think u guys are sleeping on JT, the ranking is fine but saying he is miles from tht first tier will b wrong.... I hope so much lol
Wilson over Puka for me. Will match yards and have more tds
You must have some serious trust in Rodgers.. I think he is cooked
Hard to trust you guys, man. Look at the Nacua/Kupp splits when Kupp was injured and when he was healthy
Keep bijan or breece i got breece in like the 4th
I’m hoping for bijan or hall at 7.
is that heavy filter or what? kinda looks weird.
Bijan #9? (Changes video)
Great show
I think Amon ra is better redraft player for his consistency
Gross Gibbs above JT Gibbs 10-12 carries a game thts all, JT was #1 overall player 2 yrs ago he's only 25!
Looks ima be stealing the cheetah again. Don’t mind if I do 🤷🏾♂️
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