Can I Hit Massive Kick Serves?

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Комментарии • 126

  • @IntuitiveTennis
    @IntuitiveTennis  3 года назад +13

    Improve your second serve 👉 ruclips.net/video/U39OzzOxaMM/видео.html

    • @tomharrison6607
      @tomharrison6607 3 года назад +1

      awesome explaining best coach on youtube

    • @ivanpalaca6230
      @ivanpalaca6230 3 года назад

      Does the stance matter of the kick serve?

    • @tomharrison6607
      @tomharrison6607 3 года назад

      @@ivanpalaca6230 i think you have to be more sideways i think i am practicing my kick lately and having a little trouble being comfortable sideways because i am normally more straight ahead on my serve

    • @ivanpalaca6230
      @ivanpalaca6230 3 года назад

      @@tomharrison6607 not the body i mean pinpoint vs open stance

    • @tomharrison6607
      @tomharrison6607 3 года назад

      @@ivanpalaca6230 ivan intuitive tennis has a real good video called platform stance vs pin point stance i think my stance is a platform stance but having a bit of trouble with kick serve from the video i think my serve is called a regular platform i think to get more kick on my serve i have to go to what they call a more lateral platform serve

  • @ayokay123
    @ayokay123 3 года назад +35

    I always considered a massive kick serve as defined by the bounce height at the apex point.

    • @ozsa3156
      @ozsa3156 Год назад +1

      It is literally what everyone means by massive kick serve.

    • @willkittwk
      @willkittwk 5 месяцев назад

      Maurry used to kick at 83mph

  • @davidarmola6218
    @davidarmola6218 3 года назад +17

    Another excellent video !!! Nik speaks the truth. No delusions of grandeur here or a chasing after the wind. Straight forward, wise counsel that helps put the proper perspective on tennis reality. Thanks Again for your wise insight Nik.

  • @drspidey4739
    @drspidey4739 3 года назад +8

    Funny and informative. 89 mph ikick is very impressive. Great advice on the kick serve.

  • @Leight4Dinner
    @Leight4Dinner 3 года назад +10

    Good acting to emphasize the point! :) But I’ve always thought a massive kick serve meant massive kick, not speed. I think it got “massive” so content makers could draw more attention. Nick, Great fundamentals on the kick.

  • @Josh-kr1cc
    @Josh-kr1cc 3 года назад +4

    Thanks because of you I finally developed my kick 2nd serve with a high percentage

  • @henrylove514
    @henrylove514 3 года назад +5

    Love the music!

  • @doncreepypasta5620
    @doncreepypasta5620 3 года назад +3

    I love those humor sketches you've been doing lately. Cheers!

  • @40rods
    @40rods 3 года назад +6

    Funniest video you've ever made, on top of continuing to be helpful. Keep it rolling Nik!

  • @akio2730
    @akio2730 2 года назад +2

    You are always so wise! Greetings from Italy.

  • @aktolman
    @aktolman 3 года назад +4

    When I play local league tennis I literally hit top spin first and second serves! It confuses the hell out of most players and I get more from a very hard hit top spin than I do from a flat or slice... at least at the level I have been playing against... great explanation! I would be interested to hear what the Sampras second serve average was towards the end of his career... at Wimbledon he seemed to leather them!!!
    Great vid 👍

    • @aktolman
      @aktolman 3 года назад +1

      @@NamesAreRandom pretty much exactly what I did tonight! Playing Astro as well so either served to the body, or hit varying spins to different positions! 3 doubles over 4 sets, but so many free points just from mixing it up. Hit some real slow first served that chucked them off and some really heavy seconds...
      Playing doubles tonight mind.

    • @DurpenHeimer
      @DurpenHeimer 3 года назад +1

      Yeah in my local 4.0 league I always do kick serves unless I am serving 40-0 then I'll do 2 flat serves to mix it up :)

  • @sportscastercanada
    @sportscastercanada 3 года назад +3

    What about toss heights in relation to different serves? I find it more intuitive to toss lower when going flat and higher when I go for kick and slice.

  • @Ray-oy7ot
    @Ray-oy7ot 3 года назад +2

    The video is fun coach! Amazing as usual! I've always learned something new. Thanks alot!

  • @MAELOB
    @MAELOB 3 года назад +33

    When you say massive kick serve I think of massive bounce no necessary speed -

    • @stephanesurprenant60
      @stephanesurprenant60 3 года назад +1

      Same. If you force a contact above shoulders at or behind the baseline, that's a tough spot to avoid getting into trouble for your opponent.
      When I think massive kick, I think back to second serve aces where the guy starts swinging before realizing the ball is just way out of range or just clips it with the frame above their heads. Sampras, Federer and even Djokovic have a few like those floating around on YT.

    • @Invesre
      @Invesre 3 года назад

      Aye, massive kick isnt spped, its how much ball kicks out and up

  • @chetanphoenix
    @chetanphoenix 3 года назад +7

    You’ve become way too dramatic these days with the intro part of the video and it’s very entertaining! 😂😂

    • @cSounds49
      @cSounds49 3 года назад

      Actually could have done without the music. No accounting for taste just because someone plays Tennis.

  • @sam8922
    @sam8922 3 года назад +2

    great video Nick. What's your opinion on 16x19 vs 18x20 string patterns and which players should use each?

  • @knotwilg3596
    @knotwilg3596 3 года назад +1

    You probably mention it in your other videos but you left out the main reason why a kick serve is the best choice for a second serve: because of the topspin imparted, the ball will dip (the Magnus effect, you know). Because the ball dips more than on silce or flat serves, we can clear the net higher and still have the ball land in the service box, all while maintaining a decent speed.
    It's the same reason why topspin is the default on ground strokes: give the ball a lot of speed, clear the net easily, have the ball dip into the court.
    Indeed the kick serve and the topspin ground strokes will also "kick" into the opponent's court, making them harder to return, because of height and speed. Those are offensive bonus effects of what is essentially a safety measure.
    Love the stand up comedy!

  • @mrcool1st949
    @mrcool1st949 2 года назад +1

    I tried to do kick serves yesterday with my new grip, and it was extremely low.
    It had all the spin I could possibly put into it, but it's so low that the second bounce is most of the time in front of the baseline, now I know that it's supposed to be a lot higher. Thanks

    • @willkittwk
      @willkittwk Год назад

      Try standing ten feet in back of the baseline and hitting a real loopy kick serve without much pace into the box. You'll see it to start bouncing high. Then move up to baseline and crack down with the inside out wrist positioning harder and try to drive your kick serve into the ground. It should give you pace and high reverse bounce significantly...you got your kick. But you gotta hit 20 or 30 licks a day or you'll lose the feel for it.

    • @willkittwk
      @willkittwk Год назад

      The thing is some guys just won't have a great kick serve period. It has to do with limberness in back , shoulder and wrist muscle plus coordination. If you're stiff forget about it. Go to a well placed power slice like lots of pros use often these days for second and first serve. A kick serve is similar to a pitcher turning over a change up or screwball with reverse rotation and some even great ones don't have a feel for it as a mainstay.

  • @dtornazakis
    @dtornazakis 3 года назад +4

    I couldn't stop laughing when you threw the racquet in the trash. You have an excellent sense of humor! Love it!

    • @secondserve3213
      @secondserve3213 3 года назад

      Love the fact that he intentionally placed the racquet in a way it would not fall into the bin!

  • @stephanesurprenant60
    @stephanesurprenant60 3 года назад +1

    The advantages of a kick serve are movement and consistency, not speed. At 89mph with that kind of movement, that's a scary serve -- ATP scary if you can do it reliably under pressure.
    The goal here is to get a high and awkward bounce, hopefully forcing a jam, or a stretch and a likely weak contact. You really don't need to hit a big serve for that. Even on a first serve, you can go for an aggressive placement to force weak returns and UEs. It's also a great idea to use it in a serve and volley tactic -- again, movement will tend to force bad contacts and you don't need to be Pat Rafter to kill a ball above the net in an open court.

  • @zetristan4525
    @zetristan4525 5 месяцев назад

    I watched Ruaan Roelofse in a match pumping in kickserves that would hit the back fence above 6ft high

  • @LVLVLVLVLVLV
    @LVLVLVLVLVLV 3 года назад +22

    Nick is cute 😆and has got a sense of humor

  • @satyu131089
    @satyu131089 3 года назад +1

    Almost all serves I hit are spin serves, and my opponents never hit return winners on me because the ball has a lot more action, so they'll end up framing it if they swing hard. For me a flat serve is a surprise tactic.

  • @edwardypark
    @edwardypark 3 года назад +4

    If you’re ever in the Bay Area would love to sign up for lessons and help make content for the channel.

    • @euroclyde
      @euroclyde 3 года назад

      Ed, what level player are you? East Bay?

    • @soofitnsexy
      @soofitnsexy 3 года назад

      go to florida son

  • @franklyfrank123
    @franklyfrank123 3 года назад +3

    Man! This editing! Now I believe you are a movie star!

  • @fl9667
    @fl9667 2 года назад

    Massive is a relative term. For mere mortal like me 80 mph kick serve is massive. As a 3.5 rec player i would be happy if i can get my first serve in at 80 mph! When i practice a kick serve my goal is to have it bounce high enough for the ball to touch the back fence.

  • @drmitofit2673
    @drmitofit2673 Год назад

    Is there a tennis serve where one over pronates or pronates sooner than a flat serve, like a reverse slice? Wouldn't this direct the ball more to the corner of the box and create spin?

  • @BlahBlah-yh5dr
    @BlahBlah-yh5dr 3 года назад

    Nice Nik learns the slow motion capture.

  • @linuspaul3617
    @linuspaul3617 3 года назад +1

    haha lol this is hilarious. My favourite serve is the kick serve so I regularly hit both for first and second,just focus on more height over the net on my second. My second serves kick that go double net height average around 70-80mph, so its not huge😆

  • @willkittwk
    @willkittwk Год назад +2

    I knew that was a good speed for a kick serve. Maurry use to kick at 79-80 mph constantly I noticed during a Wimbledon. This is a wake up call for guys who hallucinating about certain speeds of pros. Do a take on average FH speed of pros its about 75-80mph. I tell kids hallucinating about speed of pros this. Many pros can go all out occasionally and hit a 100mph FH but so can athletic amateur players. The difference is pros will keep their 100 mph FH on the court or close and a athletic amateur will spray or hit all out at less than optimal time or court position. I'll give hallucinating people an analogy. Tiger Wood was the top driver on golf pro tour for quite a few years but he wasn't close to the top driver among amateurs who competed in the Top driver contest. They could out drive him distance wise. But when you put accuracy and the total game they weren't close. Always gotta put the whole picture in play.

  • @godamo27
    @godamo27 3 года назад +8

    For real Nik, you should consider an acting career 😅😂

    • @gomriria2197
      @gomriria2197 3 года назад

      You too as the a hole or the beast

  • @johntesoriero3382
    @johntesoriero3382 2 года назад

    Goat @ 1:35

  • @rosbif00
    @rosbif00 3 года назад +1

    hey nick the net seems a bit low, or you're really tall :)

  • @ishvbhardwaj
    @ishvbhardwaj 3 года назад +2

    Nick sir is American badass in the beard

  • @gargamel3966
    @gargamel3966 3 года назад +1

    I’m feeling a nick movie deal coming soon. The drama!

  • @keith6032
    @keith6032 3 года назад

    I've been struggling to learn the kick serve. It's tough... I'll get it eventually 🎾👍😎

    • @stephanesurprenant60
      @stephanesurprenant60 3 года назад

      I'm still having trouble with the Ad side, but not the deuce side -- which is curious. I feel really comfortable on the deuce side, so I swing hard and get a lot of action.
      The real improvement here was a few tips I got from a coach. He took 30 minutes of his time, looked at me serve and gave me tips to improve it... and it made an absurd difference! He made me exaggerate a few things slowly -- really stay sideways, swing almost as if you were to toss your racket like an axe to the side, make sure you finish pronated on the same side before relaxing and pulling across... He had me do that to get that brushing sound right. I had this problem of uncoiling and hitting through a little too much and I was a bit too tense with my forearm -- and it's all gone now. After that, when you swing for a real serve, you end up closer to the right form -- at least, it worked for me.
      One person who knows what they're doing looking at you do a kick serve and giving tips -- even just once -- can make a huge difference. People have been complementing me on my serve -- and have been having trouble returning it -- since that guy helped me.

  • @gomriria2197
    @gomriria2197 3 года назад +2

    Lol i like your celebration

  • @willmurphy6663
    @willmurphy6663 4 месяца назад +1

    Hilarious mate... hilarious

  • @ToiletTennis
    @ToiletTennis 3 года назад

    Dang what a boss, that intro straight slaps

  • @tryhardgaming3301
    @tryhardgaming3301 3 года назад

    Idk if this is the highest, but Isner hit a kick serve that had a 7 foot high bounce against Djokovic.

  • @jasonmoon3703
    @jasonmoon3703 3 года назад +2

    Massive "KICK" serve 😀

  • @dmmusicmusic
    @dmmusicmusic 3 года назад

    comeon man, goat second serve is still sampras at peak with older, less powerful racket and yet better than any of the top three you list- djok, fed, nadal. just my opinion.

  • @pleaseenteraname1103
    @pleaseenteraname1103 Год назад

    John Isner that is a pretty massive kick serve he can serve in the 120s.

  • @krissalv8583
    @krissalv8583 3 года назад

    Lmao nick was feeling himself today

  • @mowghlee
    @mowghlee 2 года назад

    07:01

  • @2ddw
    @2ddw 2 года назад

    If you watch Nik's videos... favorite word is "ridiculous".

  • @gmurph623
    @gmurph623 2 года назад

    Watching Nick jump over the net makes it look tiny XD

  • @rikh78
    @rikh78 3 года назад +2

    You will now get 1000 comments asking about how to measure your serve speed and what you used....so.... :)

  • @KoBizme
    @KoBizme 3 года назад

    Lol "wait a second"

  • @ben1996hi
    @ben1996hi 3 года назад +2

    Take a shot everytime he says Massive Kick serve

  • @Anton.Arkhipov
    @Anton.Arkhipov 3 года назад

    Your kick is massive! It kicks, you know, massively ...

  • @stephanesurprenant60
    @stephanesurprenant60 3 года назад

    We disagree about the order of the slice and kick serve. I feel like the kick serve is easier to hit than the slice, but it's also that the kick gives you so much margin for error that it completely changes your service game. Even if you were hitting only kick serves, you could be very hard to break and even a meager kick serve is going to be so consistent you'll at least force people to beat you on the return.

  • @crono24
    @crono24 2 года назад

    HAHAH, so funny

  • @eac537
    @eac537 3 года назад

    it's a great point, but the edit sucks. youtube-ification is getting to you :(

  • @dl0903
    @dl0903 3 года назад +23

    Nick, your edit are getting more interesting. I like it lol

  • @edwardypark
    @edwardypark 3 года назад +7

    Loving the added humor in the vids! Keep it up.

  • @pierovittori1076
    @pierovittori1076 2 года назад +8

    I am a 46 year old beginner and have to say Nik's tutorial and lessons are pure gold. So straight to the point, no waste of words or examples while still being so exaustive and clear.
    His lessons cover and open the secrets of the many and crucial technical aspects that you'd never catch watching tennis on tv. But also the mental ones are well explained: if you didn't check the sessions with his students. Great coach, if I lived close to Nik I'd be his student 1000%
    I've watched countless other coaches on youtube (algorythm magic), some of them are very good, some of them average, most of them are totally confusing (to be gentle)...
    well, in my humble opinion this guy here is by far the best you can find on yutube...how do I say this? I see immediate and consistent results where it only matters: when I step on the court.

  • @jerrychen2302
    @jerrychen2302 3 года назад +4

    89 mph is faster than my first serve

  • @radhikamohan1406
    @radhikamohan1406 3 года назад +6

    Lol how to handle massive kick serves🤣 restarting tennis at the age of 35 here , irregularly played only for 2 years on eastern grip !! This game is for celestials🤣 love it with music🤍🤍🤍🤍

  • @radhikamohan1406
    @radhikamohan1406 3 года назад +5

    Music in the background and slow motion 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @cesarfernandezlopez2209
    @cesarfernandezlopez2209 3 года назад +4

    You always make me laugh and that is MASSIVE ❤️😂😂😂❤️ thank you Nikola😉

  • @jesflesch1222
    @jesflesch1222 3 года назад +4

    Love your videos! Thank you for the humor you bring to your lessons.

  • @sharan5822
    @sharan5822 3 года назад +2

    Great video :)
    why do some serves end up middle of box some end of box. what the difference in the racket swing path ?
    Do the pros do it on purpose?

  • @rds4629
    @rds4629 3 года назад +2

    uh... I'd love to have 90 mph on my first serve :( An 89 mph kick serve is massive!

  • @pats300zx
    @pats300zx 3 года назад +3

    Great video Nick !! You had me at “MASSIVE” 🤪🤪🤪

  • @thomasmedeiros5722
    @thomasmedeiros5722 3 года назад +2

    The term massive is usually equates with terms like big not fast. So you should measure how high your kick serve jumps up off the court and how far it breaks out towards the side. No one likes to play against a kicker that jumps up over their shoulder. It’s even worse if it spins a lot towards the side while it’s traveling up high. It’s worse if it’s either moving away or into you as you try to hit your return. I had a 6’4” lefty bounce a kicker right into me so I totally missed. Also had another good server like you with a great kicker hit a flat second serve right at me when I moved inside the baseline to cut off the hight and angle of his kicker . It’s all about making the returner uncomfortable not blazing speed. I was a baseball pitcher before I trained to play tennis so I appreciate the concept of spin on the ball to make them miss hit. I tell my high school players to serve with spin to make it go in. You got to move it around the service box and change the pace and spin. You got to serve according to to serve score. 15 - 30 or 15 -40 is a good time to place a spin first serve where they are most uncomfortable.

  • @misha1144
    @misha1144 3 года назад +2

    Thank u! Excellent tutorial for the weekend warriors.

  • @JanChodura68
    @JanChodura68 3 года назад +2

    Am I right that strength of kick serve when it is not fault is in high bounce with side spin with certain speed? I played against player with such serve and his second was for me far more dangerous.

    • @thomasmedeiros5722
      @thomasmedeiros5722 3 года назад +1

      I coach and teach players to change spin and direction. Few players can overpower the returner but they can confuse them and keep them guessing. If a server is predictable you can take advantage and control the point with a good placement on the return. If it’s your advantage move inside the baseline and intimidate the server. You got to get into their head and put pressure on them. Serving and returning should be more like a chess match. Find what your opponent doesn’t like and use it against them especially when you absolutely need to win the point. Hit with spin to make it go in. Placement over power wins more points.

  • @mogolfiero3311
    @mogolfiero3311 3 года назад +2

    This was some massive trolling level, well done sir :p

  • @anthonydecinque8348
    @anthonydecinque8348 3 года назад +1

    Funniest video since the time you hit the camera with the tweener

  • @thebladypundehreviewsfunny2790
    @thebladypundehreviewsfunny2790 3 года назад +1

    you've gotten better at producing

  • @mottoii8591
    @mottoii8591 3 года назад +1

    When I think of massive kick serve I think of John Isner, very high bouncing

  • @SuryaBurra-j3r
    @SuryaBurra-j3r 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your lessons give me confidence and playing positive tennis ❤ thank you sir

  • @carlobertuman7725
    @carlobertuman7725 3 года назад

    can short people have massive kick serves?

  • @saschamillard8270
    @saschamillard8270 Год назад

    lmao i saw 89 and was like, solid!

  • @chanakyashah8367
    @chanakyashah8367 3 года назад +2

    Where do u teach sir please tell me

    • @MaartenVink
      @MaartenVink 3 года назад +6

      RUclips

    • @chanakyashah8367
      @chanakyashah8367 3 года назад +1

      @@MaartenVink I didn’t know thanks can you confirm tho

    • @walterhayley7252
      @walterhayley7252 3 года назад +1

      @@chanakyashah8367 , he is in Florida

    • @chanakyashah8367
      @chanakyashah8367 3 года назад

      @@walterhayley7252 thanks where in Florida do u know?

    • @darkdiark
      @darkdiark 3 года назад +1

      @@chanakyashah8367 In Miami...Palm Beach Area

  • @FairwayJack
    @FairwayJack 10 месяцев назад

    like

  • @lordbyron3603
    @lordbyron3603 3 года назад +1

    When the only thing I’m practicing are serves, I generate a lot of power and pace. And the accuracy is around 90% . But during a match, my technique falls apart. I start to forget all the little details of the serve ( weight distribution, toss or release the ball, rotate the body, and so forth)! Body fatigue is mostly the culprit I think. Thoughts and advice?

    • @natestenniscomeback1486
      @natestenniscomeback1486 3 года назад +1

      im not a coach, but from my experience its more of a mental thing. If you know how to hit the serve, but in a match you struggle, its because there is added pressure and you get nervous or tense. When that happens your technique can fall apart.
      My suggestion is to keep making your service motion something that is second nature. so when you get tense, you can have confidence to "just swing" and you know you will have the right form.
      just my 2 cents.

    • @lordbyron3603
      @lordbyron3603 3 года назад +1

      @@natestenniscomeback1486 You’re right! I’m forcing “ what is “ to “ what it should be “ ! What is (my natural serve) is a blur. I barely know what my body is doing. I do know that I’m always off balance. Really sloppy at times. 😩 Maybe I’ll work on that from now on.

    • @natestenniscomeback1486
      @natestenniscomeback1486 3 года назад +1

      @@lordbyron3603 one way to make it simple, is to record your match specifically to see what your serve looks like. thats helped me, because i feel like I know whats wrong but when i see it, its pretty obvious hahah

    • @thomasmedeiros5722
      @thomasmedeiros5722 3 года назад +1

      You seem to indicate your problem occurs during a match and attribute it to body fatigue as the culprit. This would imply that better physical conditioning would help you maintain the strength to serve at your best. I would suggest cross training to develop core strength and endurance. How to you structure your practices? I always tell my high school players “ you have to practice the way you want to play “ Try hitting with a partner at least once or twice a week for at least 1.5 hours. Hit with a purpose like cross court forehand, backhand, volley from service line, middle service box, then overhead. Take turns feeding balls for 3 ball drills so your constantly running. Save serves for last. Finish you practice with several tie breakers. On other practice occasions play at least three sets. I use to practice hitting in the morning and set up practice sets for later in the day to train for USTA tournaments where we had to play several matches a day. All this training helps develops muscle memory and endurance. The other key factor is being mentally strong. Tournament players call this being “match tough”. It takes time and match experience to develop this type of confidence.

  • @douwemonsma5874
    @douwemonsma5874 3 года назад

    This could well be the definition of a "massive" kick serve: 157 km/h (98 mph) with 2.16m massive bounce: ruclips.net/video/qB-D9Sv7kC0/видео.html

  • @javierflores6358
    @javierflores6358 3 года назад

    Nick what about having “sick kick?”. I often tell my opponent that and if ends up being a dud

  • @shongthoj
    @shongthoj 3 года назад

    you're only as good as your second serve....so i'm complete garbo

  • @secondserve3213
    @secondserve3213 3 года назад

    Dude you definitely should have danced more!

  • @wm2357
    @wm2357 3 года назад

    Still faster than Murray's...

  • @talesara74
    @talesara74 3 года назад

    Leg drive and shoulder rotatiom too play a big role in kick.

  • @teslamotors8544
    @teslamotors8544 3 года назад

    How fast is your flat serve though?

  • @ivanpalaca6230
    @ivanpalaca6230 3 года назад

    Does the stance matter?

  • @kelvintrollol
    @kelvintrollol 3 года назад

    What speed gun or app do you use to measure the speed?

  • @Javi_C
    @Javi_C 3 года назад

    👍

  • @MimmoDS
    @MimmoDS 3 года назад

    Hi Nick. Nice video. How you measure the speed? is an app or an hardware toy?

  • @noturbo
    @noturbo 3 года назад

    I will take your crap kick serve LOL