tails wasn't supposed to be a two-tailed fox initially, but his creator, added a second one for more impact, and also inspired by the japanese cultural folklore ''kitsune''
@@thirst8015 yeah, also nine was gonna be an actual kitsune, not the metal tails like how they ended up, theres some concept art that you can find on google
@@thirst8015 in a more accurate way you could tell that, because it mimics the nine tailed fox, instead of tails being a simple ripoff as a two tailed fox
Felix the Cat movie clearly inspired Tails' backstory with 100% superfluous fox scene, songs that sound like christmas songs, and a type of Chili dog is mentioned in the film, one with sauerkraut from New York. Early Robotnik design would have gotten his magical pillow from Felix's bag of tricks. In other news, same kind of movie from since-Studio-Ghibli called the Flight of Dragons clearly inspired Zelda, including CD-i zelda as Nintendo was probably hoping for sort of a DVD movie experience, by Phillips who invented the DVD technology.
Notable Omissions: . Bumblebee Eggman . Fang The Jerboa (Originally known as Jet’s) head was shaped after Opa-Opa’s design . Vector’s original design seen in the ‘Sonic Rock Band’ concept idea (which is where Sharps the Parakeet comes from) . Charmy The Bee’s original design from the Sonic The Hedgehog Manga (WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT)
That Charmy design you're thinking of is actually kind of funny because it's specifically how that artist in particular drew it. The other artists who worked on the manga drew Charmy with a design very similar to the games, with the helmet ang goggles and stuff. That one artist just ignored the established designs. Same goes for Amy, that artist drew her with brown fur and completely different hair.
The bird wearing the sunglasses was supposed to be one of Sonic's friends in the first game before he was scrapped because of time constraints. The names depended on whether it was either Sharps or Max. Just a little fun fact here for a moment: Vector & the sunglasses bird were both created by Naoto Ohsima.
honey was scrapped in sonic the fighters originally, so technically blaze debuted before, but honey is older. theres also Sara in the sonic Ova who is some weird cat human thing.
4:30 Boomer's only colored appearance was in the "sonic learns to drive" comic. In the comic, he has yellow skin, a red shell on his back, a grey underbelly for the shell, and red and white sneakers.
Given that Boomy was being drawn several years before Pokémon was even a thing, I don’t think it was a reference. Also the sunglasses wearing bird is named Max the Parakeet
An actual travesty that he wasn’t in the IDW comics. I’m still holding out hope that this was only because they plan to do something with him in the future, but I’m not gonna hold my breath.
That chicken looking thing from the cayotix was from sonic's cut band from sonic one. Its also where vector came from. I don't remember his name but I believe he is a parakeet. His character is reused in the comics.
now *this* was fun, i never always go out of my way to go looking for info like these, so an original video like this is really appreciated, thank you for making this :)
It'd be a fun parallel to his needle mouse roots if the rabbit acts like Oswald, where he hates sonic and is jealous of him as a hero like how Oswald the lucky rabbit lives in mickey mouse shadow And Lives in resentment of his Successor.
While it’s interesting to think that some of Boomer (that’s the name I’m sticking with) The Turtle’s designs may have been inspired by say Squirtle from Pokémon, I highly doubt it as Boomer (before being replaced by Miles “Tails” Prower) was intended to be introduced in Sonic The Hedgehog 2, which released in 1992. The Pokémon franchise started in 1996. But still, the potential design inspiration is interesting nonetheless.
They used the turtle character in a sonic Archie comics. I remember reading it as a kid. But the fact sonic gave a turtle ride in the movie was a reference blows my mind.
I heard somewhere that Silver's name was originally Venice. I believe they did this because Soleana was inspired by Italy. idk don't quote on that though.
Ironically tortoise and the hare added a black cat is a fun team Heros concept! Edit: HOW EVER The Tortoise and the Hare added with the mole is more logical in my point of view as sonic and knuckles are like Rivals in a friendly way so basically a rabbit and a mole is basically fitting Rivals in a grown level even a underground like who is a best digger!
When you mention knuckles could have possibly been our first cat in the series then mention blaze insinuating that she was the first cat but then few mins after shows big the cat designs haha, just thought I’d point that out 😅
Charmy did appear in the Sonic Manga before Knuckles Chaotix where he had a drastically different design. Vector was also in a lot of Sonic 1 concept art looking more like a normal cartoon crocodile
there was an early concept where sonic would be the lead singer of a rock band and vector was going to be in it so its possible that was the earliest know version of the choatix
Sonic having blue arms isn’t really anything new to me mainly because even in the sonic movie they give him blue arms and then some of the older cartoons. They give him blue arms so it’s not really anything new to me.
Fang is actually a jerboa, it was confirmed by Sega when they were talking about sonic superstars. That Cream design with the ears to the side is a jerboa too.
About Tails early design, I can't remember where I heard that but in the early concepts of Tails design the developpers didn't know if they wanted him to be a fox or a tanuki, the fox was chosen because more recognizable. Also I'm surprised you didn't talk about othe sonic designs like his usa clothes wearing wolf design that we do have drawings of
Its worth noting during very early development of Sonic Heroes Gamma was actually supposed to return after being rebuilt before eventually being replaced with Omega. So maybe this concept art of Omega you've seen was supposed to be Gamma after being rebuilt
I'd 100% take an IDW follow-up video, there's so many cool things the artists were able to share for the new characters, and we actually have more info on them
tails wasn't supposed to be a two-tailed fox initially, but his creator, added a second one for more impact, and also inspired by the japanese cultural folklore ''kitsune''
A Kitsune is what inspired Nine’s design right?
@@thirst8015 yeah, also nine was gonna be an actual kitsune, not the metal tails like how they ended up, theres some concept art that you can find on google
@@thirst8015 in a more accurate way you could tell that, because it mimics the nine tailed fox, instead of tails being a simple ripoff as a two tailed fox
Felix the Cat movie clearly inspired Tails' backstory with 100% superfluous fox scene, songs that sound like christmas songs, and a type of Chili dog is mentioned in the film, one with sauerkraut from New York. Early Robotnik design would have gotten his magical pillow from Felix's bag of tricks.
In other news, same kind of movie from since-Studio-Ghibli called the Flight of Dragons clearly inspired Zelda, including CD-i zelda as Nintendo was probably hoping for sort of a DVD movie experience, by Phillips who invented the DVD technology.
The thing is that back in 1992 nobody outside of Japan knew about kitsune of yokai in general.
Notable Omissions:
. Bumblebee Eggman
. Fang The Jerboa (Originally known as Jet’s) head was shaped after Opa-Opa’s design
. Vector’s original design seen in the ‘Sonic Rock Band’ concept idea (which is where Sharps the Parakeet comes from)
. Charmy The Bee’s original design from the Sonic The Hedgehog Manga (WHICH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT)
That Charmy design you're thinking of is actually kind of funny because it's specifically how that artist in particular drew it. The other artists who worked on the manga drew Charmy with a design very similar to the games, with the helmet ang goggles and stuff. That one artist just ignored the established designs. Same goes for Amy, that artist drew her with brown fur and completely different hair.
The bird wearing the sunglasses was supposed to be one of Sonic's friends in the first game before he was scrapped because of time constraints. The names depended on whether it was either Sharps or Max.
Just a little fun fact here for a moment: Vector & the sunglasses bird were both created by Naoto Ohsima.
In the translation it is in fact Max. And the type of bird is a Parakeet
@@TheMysticObservatoryand There was a monkey named Max.
Thanks I was wondering who it was
Blaze isn't the first cat character because honey was before her and big
honey was scrapped in sonic the fighters originally, so technically blaze debuted before, but honey is older. theres also Sara in the sonic Ova who is some weird cat human thing.
You forgot to mention that Vector the Crocodile was meant to be in the first Sonic game, but was scrapped due to the development time
4:30
Boomer's only colored appearance was in the "sonic learns to drive" comic. In the comic, he has yellow skin, a red shell on his back, a grey underbelly for the shell, and red and white sneakers.
The colors were actually based on a sprite sheet from Devianart
Given that Boomy was being drawn several years before Pokémon was even a thing, I don’t think it was a reference. Also the sunglasses wearing bird is named Max the Parakeet
22:56 the design on the left is a red panda!
Infinite was such a wasted character. He has so much potential he deserves justice.
An actual travesty that he wasn’t in the IDW comics. I’m still holding out hope that this was only because they plan to do something with him in the future, but I’m not gonna hold my breath.
I guess you can say, *INFINITE* potential
@STAI2GAZER I really really truly hope so. He deserves another chance and a much better back story.
@@mickhithemouse no hate. But get out for that lmao.
@@infintebruh007 lol
1:45 There is an official character. His name is *Ristar.*
I really hope they repurpose that 2nd Infinite design one day. Either for a new game character or at least an IDW character.
22:05 pretty sure the first concept design for cream is a cat and the second one is a jerboa
There’s an unused Omega design in the Sonic Heroes Storyboards for the Team Dark intro cutscene.
9:41 this is not official Knuckles art, it’s from a magazine
That chicken looking thing from the cayotix was from sonic's cut band from sonic one. Its also where vector came from. I don't remember his name but I believe he is a parakeet. His character is reused in the comics.
The 2nd sonic concept is mr needlemouse which was Sonic’s og name which was mistranslated as the name was mr hedgehog
now *this* was fun, i never always go out of my way to go looking for info like these, so an original video like this is really appreciated, thank you for making this :)
the parrot at 12:33 is called max
I always love seeing concept art of character designs and this video I really enjoy watching it nice job man
I like to imagine the first concept art of Rouge as her going through her teenage phase. 😂
It'd be a fun parallel to his needle mouse roots if the rabbit acts like Oswald, where he hates sonic and is jealous of him as a hero like how Oswald the lucky rabbit lives in mickey mouse shadow And Lives in resentment of his Successor.
Take a shot for every time "Actually" is spoken. I get it tho. Talking is hard.
I like how Infinte always had a mask.
While it’s interesting to think that some of Boomer (that’s the name I’m sticking with) The Turtle’s designs may have been inspired by say Squirtle from Pokémon, I highly doubt it as Boomer (before being replaced by Miles “Tails” Prower) was intended to be introduced in Sonic The Hedgehog 2, which released in 1992. The Pokémon franchise started in 1996. But still, the potential design inspiration is interesting nonetheless.
I can’t believe sonic superstars added the rabbit (like he even has a pixel form and a super form (not like that’s interesting)
Hi, I do Japanese at school and that chicken (Idk what it is) says "matsukusu". I read some comments, I think it's Max.
They used the turtle character in a sonic Archie comics. I remember reading it as a kid. But the fact sonic gave a turtle ride in the movie was a reference blows my mind.
I heard somewhere that Silver's name was originally Venice. I believe they did this because Soleana was inspired by Italy.
idk don't quote on that though.
Ironically tortoise and the hare added a black cat is a fun team Heros concept!
Edit: HOW EVER The Tortoise and the Hare added with the mole is more logical in my point of view as sonic and knuckles are like Rivals in a friendly way so basically a rabbit and a mole is basically fitting Rivals in a grown level even a underground like who is a best digger!
actually, squirtle squad aired in 1998, while sonic 2 came out in 1992 :)
When you mention knuckles could have possibly been our first cat in the series then mention blaze insinuating that she was the first cat but then few mins after shows big the cat designs haha, just thought I’d point that out 😅
Charmy did appear in the Sonic Manga before Knuckles Chaotix where he had a drastically different design. Vector was also in a lot of Sonic 1 concept art looking more like a normal cartoon crocodile
Boomy and Sonic could´ve been a play at a Sonic-Boom
Mr Tinker: Journey into Dreams
11:53 the chickens name roughly translates to “Makksu” which is just Max. Max later went on to be The Rabbits name
The 2nd cream option is NOT a rabbit it is a jerboa
12:02 His name is Max
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The green Perfect Chaos might’ve been reused for Tikhaos in the Archie Comics.
The translation for the bird looking chaotix character translates to max
there was an early concept where sonic would be the lead singer of a rock band and vector was going to be in it so its possible that was the earliest know version of the choatix
You forgot to mention the somewhat loved early sonic concept Mr Needle mouse Whos like so funny lol
Why is Bonnie Here? :Its a Joke: 0:17
11:40This is not related to Knuckles Chaotix, this is a black and white version of the Sonic manga art in which Amy first appeared
love the look into the development of the characters, but i think you might wanna test for blue/purple and yellow/orange color blindness my guy
24:13 that you could barely see any features at all.me: exactly the point
10:39 correction he isnt a weasel, hes actually a Jerboa.
4:05 Tails has concept art in which he is smaller and brown and has no fur on his face and belly
May I just point out “Feels” the rabbit was actually a misinterpretation, his actual name in Japan is “Reto” and in English it’s “Max”
I’m happy with the final designs
There was actually another Robotnik design you missed
luckily Miles "Tails" Prower was in here!!! He´s my Favorite!!!
5:13 if it’s concept art for sonic 2 then it would have predated Pokémon by a few years so this joke kinda flops
Mika, the rabbit is Mika now.
INFINITE WAS THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF TANGLE !?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
34:14 no wonder you have those kinda chooses for sonic forces
Tails actually used to have blue shoes instead of red
4:20 there’s a old design of brown tails
26:31 that's a vat not a fox
4th and 3rd one are the best
Gamera 4:34
22:08 she looks like marine that was with sonic when he met her
4:27 tails was supposed (it not confirmed) but he was supposed to be a Tanuki
Fun fact 10:04 knuckles moon chest was tan colored in the old games
11:52 his name is max
17:07 is good
OH CMON I WANT SHORT FANG
He personally was her. Clothes
Most of these character designs can be used in the series
12:09 prob is going to be jet name from max to jet
UM. UM. BEFORE BLAZE THERE WAS BIG. UM. I JUST. I COULDNT NOT SAY ANYTHING
Is that ray in the picture wuth the cayotics?
9:00 Before Blaze? What about Big the cat?
It’s insane because if you aren’t in the fandom the intro looks like extreme over exaggeration.
U excited for sonic X shadow generations and the sonic 3 movie and the app store sonic fall guys game
No... No I an not.
only the movie and game.
I’m upset that feels being in superstars i feel like their not gonna bring feels back
Nice!
Now that is real😊
Proto Big looks like a Pokemon.
Banger video
Why couldn’t they make tails have a super form that gives him nine tails because of the 7 chaos emeralds adding 7 more to his 2 tails
Hold up, ‘Fang’ the weasel? I thought his name was Nack the weasel
It's both.
18:29 looks like infinte
3:25 i have the comic
Sonic having blue arms isn’t really anything new to me mainly because even in the sonic movie they give him blue arms and then some of the older cartoons. They give him blue arms so it’s not really anything new to me.
boomy the turtle koopa boomboom
I want to see tenric shadow’ or the other characters to be like we were like what could’ve been
Fang is a jerboa not a weasel
Black and grey =purple
Purple =nothing
Bigs bottom right disgen looks like ited be frok sonic boom
Buckles not knuckles
ouughh save me random white guy talking about my favourite topics.. /pos
ur so real for this
God they done mess him up here💀💀💀9:29
Tails and Cream were at one point supposed to be Tanukis but why tails isn’t is cause of the Tanuki power up in Mario and idk about cream
11:55 his name is ''max'', katakanized as ''ma - a - ku - su''
*Makkusu
ﾂ makes the consonant longer, not the vowel
10:45 well hes a Jerboa actually. His final height does fit because of this.
Not many people know sadly because the USA couldn't translate his last name and didn't know what a jerboa is so they made him a weasel
Was about to say this.
Funny enough, I want to say he's called "Weasel" not so much because of the animal, but the type of characteristic he has.
@@BrothaKyo it's fine
Fang is actually a jerboa, it was confirmed by Sega when they were talking about sonic superstars. That Cream design with the ears to the side is a jerboa too.
H E D E H O G
*Ya beat me to this comment, lol!* 😂
About Tails early design, I can't remember where I heard that but in the early concepts of Tails design the developpers didn't know if they wanted him to be a fox or a tanuki, the fox was chosen because more recognizable.
Also I'm surprised you didn't talk about othe sonic designs like his usa clothes wearing wolf design that we do have drawings of
I think Omega was supposed to look a lot like Gamma from a concept art I've seen on him if you want to know. I still prefer his finished design more.
Its worth noting during very early development of Sonic Heroes Gamma was actually supposed to return after being rebuilt before eventually being replaced with Omega. So maybe this concept art of Omega you've seen was supposed to be Gamma after being rebuilt
9:29 This is not concept art, but graphics that were made after the release of the first part of Sonic 3
We needed more concept art videos
I'd 100% take an IDW follow-up video, there's so many cool things the artists were able to share for the new characters, and we actually have more info on them
Fang's head was inspired by the Opa-Opa character from Fantasy Zone, funny enough.