Making a pickproof lock to stop honest criminals.
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2023
- Designing a mechanism to stop lock pickers in their tracks. Engineering this unpickable lock was a grueling process that tested my patience and had me questioning if it could really be done. Over two months of drawing, CAD-ing, laser cutting, machining, assembly, and testing.
Special thanks to Kendric the Locksmith and & Emerald Locksmith in helping with user testing and pick-ability. Also thanks to Omar for helping with the machined parts of the build.
This project took a ton of work and time to complete, so if you're interested in supporting the development of more of these works you can do so here:
/ worksbydesign
Software Used:
Solidworks
Photoshop
Blender
DaVinci Resolve
Tools and Hardware:
10 year old .002" thick graph paper
304 SS
316 SS
Brass
3D printing from: www.xometry.com/
Laser cutting from: sendcutsend.com/
Hardware from: www.mcmaster.com/
a Drill Press
Files
a Vice
some string
bit of glue 
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Just wanted to keep everyone updated: Unfortunately no word yet from @lockpickinglawyer or @McNallyOfficial. Ultimately it’s their choice and I don’t want to bug them, but I’m still hopeful they’ll take on the challenge!
If anyone has a connection with either of them and could reach out that would be amazing!
Why don't you send it to his PO box? It's in the description of his channel
@@Kimikashimoo that's my next move, although I may have something to add to the box before I send It out
@@worksbydesign Don't put in underwear though. Mrs LockPickingLawyer is known not to take kindly to that.
@@worksbydesign whatever you do just please don't give up if [when] he defeats it! More likely than not he'll find some simple exploit in a part of the system you overlooked but your underlaying concept is brilliant and it won't actually be testable until you close up all the exploits he finds to avoid interacting with it (which he will probably tell you exactly how to do lmao)
Be careful what you wish for - the lock picking lawyer is very crafty indeed ;) neat design!
I will definitely be taking a few lessons from yours before sending it off haha. And thank you, your lock inspired me to do this! :)
LPL is a magician, he can just command a lock and it will obey. Loved your design but I think WBD may give LPL a little more trouble, idk
Nice to see all the lock-nerds here! 🤗
Its a little easier to pick something when you know how it works. Give this to LPL and ask him to pick before he looks inside.
@Phillip Craggs but if one wer to mass produce a pick proof lock. The very first one sold would probably be disassembled. So in order for it to truly be pick proof, it should be impossible to pick even if you know how it works in great detail.
The anti-tension mechanism is both simplistic and brilliant. I can't wait to see the LPL take this on. I really want to see this succeed.
I said kinda the same thing lol
I’ve got a feeling this’ll take longer than all the Master Locks range combined and then some. That’s if it’s even possible.
LPL will find a weakness to exploit and open it in about 2 minutes, I'm sure.
@@christophermeraz-matato be fair lasting 30 seconds against LPL means it's pretty much unpickable by any human (he is not human)
@@christophermeraz-mata
Are you a betting man?
Respect to the locksmith for keeping at it for over an hour. Cant wait to see LPL's attempt.
i think LPL can used decode by using decoder bar.
I've been waiting over a year for the LPL to do a video about the Bowley Rotasera 200, and I know he's had it that long, still no video.
@@d.-_-.b Anyone know if he ever did try this lock?
@@mcdjayProbably gave up and didnt upload.
@@AP-dc1ks either a shitpost, or you don't watch lpl much. he'd welcome the challenge and definitely would post it. if he had to give up, it would be a truly interesting lock
Just the fact that it took over an hour for a veteran locksmith to pick the first design speaks volumes. You, a single person have already made more advances in lock security compared to almost all lock brands
I would guess making secure locks isn't that much of a problem, but making -affordable- secure locks is a completely different thing. And the more moving parts something has, the more prone to other failures it becomes as well.
@@Schilani the "problem" isn't really cost either, but rather the benefits of such a lock. There is barely any reason to try to R&D and then mass produce it.
Can't pick it? Break the door. Can't break the door? Break a window. The windows have bars? Well, though shit, but not everyone wants to live in a house that looks like a prison. Those are all methods to discourage an invader, not really to keep them out. It could be useful in some cases, but generally speaking a custom made electronic lock would probably be better in terms of "unpickable" and "affordable".
@@kuro19382 the issue with electronic locks is that pretty much all of them can be picked with a strong magnet. an unpickable lock is impossible unless the lock has no way of being unlocked
@@foxtrotauxiliumyou just said that most electronic locks are terribly designed.
@@ok-gs5ly most are but you can have a very good one if you want generally the keypad needs to be a separate Device to the lock itself
One point to consider: The geometry of the "trap" teeth is still triangular. So there is a slope. If the lock is tensioned slightly (so it falls into the trap), when the pin is pushed upwards as well, it would, via the rocker arms, slightly pull on the slopes. This tension would counteract the lock tension, potentially rotating it back. Even worse, if you add just a tiny bit of tension to the lock, pushing each pin up until the lock rotates back, this would allow the attacker to decode the correct height for each pin. One method to prevent this would be making the slope steeper, up to 90°, to prevent any rocker motion from turning the lock.
I think the tipping point isn't 90 degrees but an arc coaxial with the core. That contact surface wouldn't apply torque. Problem is, the tooth needs to have thickness, which leads us back to the problem with too many teeth. I wonder if it would help to introduce assymetry such that you couldn't tension all the sliders with one rotation. Ideally you want to find a shape such that a pin would provide no feedback unless other pins were in place, but would be in a non-counterrotating trap when you do pick the others.
I think each arm should have a random length trap tooth, so you cant just tension, check the depth, and offset all of them slightly to get the right depth
You could still adjust the height of each pin and rotate the core until it hits a tooth and decode the position :)
I think the core and the arms need an angle over 90 so that as soon as the arms engage with the core it pulls the arms in and provides only negative feedback.
When I saw those secondary arms in the design I immediately thought it would work kind of like a normal lock with only spool pins. lots of counterrotation, but one could still tension off the secondary arms.
Just a heads up, the LPL will look for any work around so that means between the door and the lock may be an option to get tension from. Have all your bases covered.
This comment need more like
as stuff made here's lock showed, the bar is a camover design. if fully engaged, pushing back on it only puts tension on a flat plate
The lock picking lawyer will just use thermite like he has before bro
Right and I called him out for that. He's not defeating the lock mechanism by going around it. It's like saying you defeated a lock because you made a hole in the house with TNT. it's bullshit.
@@BuzzingGoober a lock is as strong as its weakest link
Realistically, a lock that takes an hour is already effectively unpickable. It would be nearly impossible for a thief to pick a lock for an hour or more without being caught. And after the modifications it would likely take even longer if its possible at all. Kudos to you
True, but I think there would be a considerable drop in time spent if the thief knew the lock would be unresponsive to lesser forms of picking and went straight to the set-up we see at the end... of course who knows with the modifications!
@@PatrickKniesler a thief knowing how a particular lock works is extremely rare. And even if it would only take 5 mins. That's still too long. When you are robbing a place you will be in a hurry and with each couple of seconds you will get more nervous. So realistically this lock is unpickable
@@abde4645 "Pick resistant" is more apropiate, unpickable implies that no matter how hard one tries, it will never be picked.
Also, it depends on the target to rob, a cabinet at X store during work ours, sure time's a premium, but a back door on a house in the middle of the night while you are away? Nobody may even notice someone is there as long as no noise is made.
@@PatrickKniesler The "set-up" at the end is a single tool, you can get your own at LPL's store.
If there were alarms for picking the lock then even at night they wouldn't be able to just sit there secretly and pick for an hour.
i honestly just love to finally see a channel that makes stuff without a super expensive workshop full of fancy machines
@@loumona76 many people don't have access to expensive machinery
@@loumona76 limitations on your ability make effective execution a testimate to your skill. withought the fancy machines and the limitation of using cnc parts forced him to be more creative with the resources at his disposal and he even ended up with a beautiful result
its more engaging for sure!!
@@mr.beaning9792 CNC parts is a lot. You can order CNC parts of any complexity and shops will do it for you. The only problem is price.
@@unnamellie do you have access to a shop that makes the stuff for you? In my country that's more expensive than renting a machine shop.
@@Dustmadeout sorry, i think i got confused
i thought the parts were cnc but it was something else, I forgot lol
Stuff Made Here's lock was mainly defeated by avoiding picking the cylinder itself, so you might want to add a backer plate and/or some other defense mechanisms. (but I'm not an expert) Awesome lock, super cool to see your design process and how much you were able to make with sheet metal
Thats the troublesome part. Because you know some cheating lawyers will simply bypass the entirety by making a copy of the key or something xD
What is a “cheating lawyer”?
Yeah, LPL cheated on that lock. He took it apart to see how it worked. He didn't go at it blind. If he did, he may not have gotten in to it. Nothing wrong with taking it apart to find weaknesses, but try to pick it first. Then take it apart to look for weaknesses. I stopped watching LPL after that video.
@@inothome LPL was never about trying locks blind. His whole channel is that no lock is unpickable if you're prepared enough. That's why lockpicking exists. It's all about preparation, little about actually picking it; hence why picking locks only takes seconds for him.
@@group_dm My problem was Stuff Made here sent him a lock to pick. Instead of going at it, like it was on a locked door and THEN taking it apart and looking for something that was easy to compromise on it, he just took it apart first. Well, yeah, anyone can take something apart, find the weakness and then exploit it. It would have been nice of him to try and pick it as given. To see how good the design was and then, disassemble and look for weaknesses.
And yeah, having locks in a vise, in a well lit, basically a lab type environment makes it much easier too. Not downplaying his abilities, he is good at what he does, but he also makes it easier for himself too.
You're missing out on millions of views by not following through with LPL. The entire internet would geek over it, don't let up man.
Yep, just came across this video, saw it was 7 months old and assumed LPL would've made a video by now
yup same @@woutchauvaux6672
@@woutchauvaux6672same
@@woutchauvaux6672 Might mean that LPL was actually unable to pick it?
@@rjgraylight he would absolutely upload the video even if he couldnt open it. imagine the views that it would get, a lock even he couldnt pick.
LPL is a master, I made a challenge lock that he picked and while it took him a bit of time he opened it no trouble at all. the lock I sent him was just a modified lock I changed a few things on, no where near the level of craftsmanship you've put into yours. Yours is engineering art.
Incredible work! I can’t believe this is your first video.
Here’s hoping I see this on LPL soon
Same, and he only has 20k subs!
That time lapsed shot at 9:10 is freaking amazing. So much happening, and it's seamlessly put together. Beautifully done, excellent camera/editing work.
I think is animated. Some frames look a bit off. Still a great shot. It fooled me for a moment. (Btw you can move between frames by pressing "," and "." while the video is paused.
@@Busterblade20 I'm not sure it is. It would probably be more work to fake it all than set a camera up on a rail like they do in astro photography timelapses. Being the engineer this guy is, I'm guessing he's got a kid's curved train track and a stepper motor pulling the camera along on string or something.
@@ArcanePath360 I'm a CG artist, I can see rendering samples on parts of the metal, also he's made the shader have very high specularity, to the point where you can see the reflections of the pins on the flat surfaces of the metal. When his hands are composited over the metal there is no reflective detail, only composited basic shadow. If the shader had a slightly lower specularity, perhaps more scratch detail in the specularity map, as well as more render time per frame, this would be really hard to tell. I myself didn't notice until I read the comments and actually took a look at each frame. It makes sense though, as he has the model in cad.
@@Spoofer5 It seems you have an eye for it then. Some details do look a bit off I admit, such as lighting on the background in the green. When I look at the rest of the backdrop though like the sewing machine, it strikes me as a bit odd that he would take the time to render such assets in 3D. However I think he might be using a map of a 2D image and slightly rotating and scrolling it on a 2D polygon. I've done work in CAD myself, but wouldn't call myself a 3D artist.
@@ArcanePath360 you're exactly right on that part, they are not modeled. You can tell if you look at the sewing machine that it, and the rest of the background is just a photosphere or panoramic image that is giving some slightly weird parallax when compared to the table.
If you changed the direction of the teeth on the bars, and give the core a bit of a claw instead of a smooth ramp, tensioning the core would cause them to lock in more tightly. Neat design either way though.
The raking joke at 1:40 is top tier
This is exceptional quality content and editing
agreed, subbed
That lock render was really simple and well put together, lovely work
Can’t wait to see the lock picking lawyer give this a go!!!
2 outcome. Either LPL open it in 30sec, or 15 minutes :D
@@vukkulvar9769 Or he can't open it so he'll just "find" some other way to get inside. You can't get LPL to say "I can't open this" becaus he's way too proud for anything like that.
@@blazbohinc4964 lock is only as secure as the window next to it
@@blazbohinc4964 having beef with some guy that picks lock is crazy. L you bro.
@@blazbohinc4964 woah things getting heated in the lock community lmao
I think your hand drawing skills are a super visiual tool and how you combine it with your CAD skills in both off your videos is really great. Over all editing and naration ist great. Looking forward to more of your videos. Good luck.:)
Really smart design process. I especially like that a "failure" was shown and explained as what it was: just one more step in an iterative process.
This video is so well made that I thought you were a much larger channel! You really deserve more attention
My thoughts exactly...
For a first video this is nothing short of amazing quality.
I know, right? 3k subscribers? Those are rookie numbers. We gotta bump those numbers up.
@@pirojfmifhghek566
It was less than 20k views and 2k subs this morning. If LPL gets hold of the lock those numbers will skyrocket.
I’ve put a comment with the channels name on LPL latest vid so people can get to see this vid.
Absolutely, im getting “stuff made here” vibes from this channel.
Definitely gotta try to get LPL to give it a shot. If any vulnerabilities still exist, he'll help you find them so they can be worked out.
If you don’t hear back from LPL I’d be interested in picking this. I’ve picked the Enclave that was featured on Lock Noob’s channel which was also designed to be an unpickable lock.
This is a really neat design and your video production is great. Well done and looking forward to see what you do next.
Definitely looking forward to seeing what LPL thinks up to try to defeat it. Others have already commented better than I can how to defeat this version, and I saw your comment that you were still working on it.
One of the big problems with making good locks is that the manufacturing cost usually means cheap, low-quality locks dominate the market and a big part of that is the tight tolerances needed to keep tools out of them. Your design seems like a good way to get around that and make a lock that can be secured with less tight of tolerances, which might mean the cheaply made versions end up being reasonably secure.
based on my limited knowledge of lock picking, it still seems pickable as long as you know how the lock works. It still seems you can still tension and solve those side levers/traps. You can see that it's possible to tension the "trap" at 4:45. You say that the pin can't move while under tension but there's nothing physically stopping it from moving and applying tension to the side levers and subsequently the "traps". It seems like it would just act the same way as combination serrated-spool pins do. You just keep picking each pin in the order that it binds until each pin stops clicking to get those side levers past the "traps". Those traps act as false sets and it seems, from my understanding, that you would just need to get past the false set for each and every one of those side levers. Don't get me wrong though, this is still going to take a decent amount of time to pick because you're going to have to pick through a crap ton of false sets, but it still seems doable. what you CAN do to make this SIGNIFICANTLY harder (but still not impossible) to pick is to combine this design with combination serrated-spool pins. Don't quite know how the math would work but you'd exponentially increase the amount of false set possibilities by doing that.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. I'd love to see Lockpickinglawyer tackle this one.
What if the current pins were replaced by telescoping t pins? Or throw in some wafers so you might over set, etc.
And I think removing the false sets as shown at 11:12 will make it even easier to kind of decode the lock. Tension the core, move a pin as far as it goes, you will get a counter rotation. Now just give a little tension on the core and let it counter rotate with the pressure on the pin and at some point the lock will be past the tooth of the side thing and will be able to rotate to the point whre the core interacts with another side lever. If you do that with a Lishi Tool you now know the height of that pin. Do this for all pins and you can just create a key that matches what you have decoded.
And I don't see how that would stop key impressioning, which would also be an option to "pick" the lock.
i feel like with some lump and telescope and bumping it is still possible to force it
I was impressed with the quality so I went to watch the rest of your videos.
This is your first video...
Amazing 😊
Can you explain a bit more how that works? So to move the first pin you'd need to move it up without tension so the side-lever doesn't block the pin from moving up, then apply tension and move the pin into position. But at that point you would need to let go of the tension to do that with the second pin and if you do that the first pin falls down again, no? What am I missing? I know very little about lockpicking!
Damn where are all the engineering masterminds coming from? You have almost the same start to RUclips that stuff made here had. One video with insane quality, insane editing and insane engineering skills. 20k clicks in 4 days for a channel that has never postet before? Impressive. Your style reminds me a lot of stuff made here. He must be an inspiration for you.
Excellent result! I dare suggest two changes. Now all the levers are on one side. You can randomly arrange them on the left and right. In order to further complicate the work of the hacker. And the coffin board element is made on a parallel flexure. This will eliminate the additional backlash that can be exploited for hacking.
so one thing i learned, in order if the check input and the check mechanisms are linked it's more than likely you'll be able to pick, what this lock did, was just move pins and make them a bit funky but if it's all connected while the lock turns then it's still pickable.
Lockpicker and locksmith here, and I've been picking locks for well over a decade now. I like the design! Just for fun I'd definitely recommend looking up some of the mechanisms in locks from Medeco with their rotating pin design, and Mul-T-Pick for the pin-in-pin design. They're not pickproof by any means. In fact, I find them to be some of the most enjoyable locks to pick. For another "pickproof" idea, you could look into Kwikset Smartkey design (or known by some in the business as "shartkey" partly due to how they tend to fail after years of wear). They can be picked, but if you look into the way they're picked I imagine you could find a way to protect against that type of attack.
And sure, others might also bring up Bowley, but whatever
Amateur lockpicker and not-at-all in the area. When he started to explain his design, it looked like a bit of an overengineered version of a security pin (somewhere between a spool or a mushroom), since the tension would still end up pressing against the pin, and the physics still match. I would love to know if I'm wrong and why, if you have the time to explain
I don’t think you are wrong. It is, for all intents and purposes, basically like a normal pin. It requires tension, it requires the raising of something, and it relies on the subtle imperfections of making anything. It is mechanically equivalent to a pin. In fact, it makes it more obvious; the difference is where that tension is felt.
It's certainly interesting to see different takes on how to accomplish this. Stuff Made Here's (who I get the vibe has been a big inspiration based on the presentation style) lock, the Bowley lock (which I use) and now this. I look forward to seeing future projects!
Definitely if LPL gets ahold of this lock I'd expect a good influx if subscribers!
That is definitely not the problem that I thought you would have. When you gave the clue that you were missing something I thought for sure that it was that the pin would drop down into the anti-pick notch when trying to open it (with or without a key) and trap the core.
Luckily those pins and the sliding arms are on different layers, I almost did have that issue though haha
I was so excited during the video thinking about all the possibilities I've seen on LPL channel. Now I'm excited to see him trying to decode this. Amazing work, dude! The video editing, the step-by-step, everything was so nice to watch. Major props!
I liked how you kept this project realistic and didn't just machine expensive small parts, but took cost factor into your design consideration and used cheaper manufacturing methods for your prototype. I enjoyed watching the summarized journey while you solve some of the bugs. Even when one version takes an hour to solve, that's still impressive, because they had to "create" the method to solve that revision. I also liked how you explained your considerations. Lastly, you did good hyping the video at the end, mentioning LPL (Lockpicking Lawyer), as that's the only reason I made a comment.
After I watched this, I thought I'd go and take a look at what your channel has... and I'm blown away! This is your FIRST video?! This is so unbelievably polished!
I'm really excited to see what comes out of this channel in the future!
IT IS??!!????
Whuuut? This has to be up there for most successful initial video. All hail the mysterious algorithm. (I'm guessing the fact that Stuff Made Here found it and commented, and all the LPL comments, is why it showed up in my feed.)
@@curtisbme We have the same first name, last initial, and RUclips Algorithm feed. We must be the same person.
BRO 1:43 WAS SUCH A GREAT JOKE. So obvious yet so well executed
I feel like that final step of involving the "teeth" makes the whole lock basically act like a spool pin. A bunch of counter rotation will be required, but I think it's still pretty pickable.
The problem with this is due to the amount of ways you can pick a lock. Trying to think of every eventuality is hard because people are different and others may think of things that you never would. LPL is very crafty, looking forward to seeing what happens. Ps, showing how it's made will definitely help him pick it...
The point of showing how it's made is to show that it's unpickable. There's no security through obscurity, and sure hiding the internal mechanism would make it harder to figure out how to pick, but it would not intrinsically prevent picking by any means.
@@sodiboo *to show that it's _possibly_ unpickable, but as others have helped point out, the rocker arms end up aiding in decoding, so it's likely not unpickable. but that doesn't make it a bad video by any means, it's a fun project. but yes, 100% agree that security through obscurity is not security.
inb4 he just melts the lock
@@pneumaofficial9581 Well yeah, though I assume he'd take the challenge as non-destructive. This isn't made out of sturdier materials. It doesn't have a hardened steel bar, plate, or pins to make drilling difficult. But none of those speak to "pick resistance" and or non-destructive bypass. He'd 100% look for the pick first, bypass second, and only resort to destructive with permission from the creator. Even then, it's easier to go through a window or the hinges.
I mean you could use a flat "wall" that uses smacking it or something to open, can't pick a lock you don't know exists lol
Wow! Insane quality from someone with about 100 subscribers. I would believe it if this channel had millions!
He had 100 ish just yesterday? Already at nearly 2k
@@GabrielRM At 3k now. Crazy growth
he only has one video so far
Oh wow, this really was their first video
I wonder if they have any prior experience with video editing, this is a high quality vid
and they say it's really hard to grow on YT... one vid, 9k subs after 2 days :D sucha great work, turns out you just need to be good at something
Epic Project! Ever sense I watched Stuff Made Here make his lock. I have been wanting to watch more lock designing videos. This video scratched that itch perfectly, Great Work!
Glad it hit the spot, and thank you!
The best part of this design is that it doesn't need any weird, proprietary keys that need to be sent to the manufacturer to make copies of.
Holy cow not only is the design brilliant (and LPL really needs to see this!) as a first video the quality is amazing! Can't wait to see more from you! Subscribed~
If LockPickingLawyer doesn't want it, I'd love a crack at it. Lol
Gotta love this work man, well done on making it effectively impossible for most thief's to pick the lock!
I really appreciate the animations. They look fantastic and give great insight into the inner workings being shown.
Lpl would be the perfect test, theres not much I haven't seen him get into. But this is pretty genius
11:18 the teeth are not properly designed because pushing the pin will create a counter rotation like with a spool pin. The angle of contact between the gray and purple parts should be opposite. This way, when you push the pin it even tried to turn more (a tiny bit) and then it's stuck.
+1
this
I like that new opening method for masterlocks you showed off at the start.
Bro you forgot to name it ! Every creation deserves a name.
I’ll be sure to give it one soon :)
This needs more views to promote lock security. I also hope that LPL will get engaged in lock making process at some point
Amazing design and execution. You deserve a large subscriber base. Great job, and PLEASE send this to LPL! :) Subscribed!
I watched a video with a similar premise by stuff made here, but you are taking an all new approach that is genius for lack of a better term.
Flow of information in this video is great. goals clearly defined. constantly updates scope as more info is learned. Visuals and detailed explanations for understanding. cuts out jargon. Best of all he isn't trying to go outside his means to make this video. 10/10 will use this to rob my neighbor
Wait what. How does this channel not have 1mil subscribers? This is phenomenal content!! The idea + editing & animations + ultra sooth voice 😌. I'm hooked.
Looking forward to the inevitable LPL video (would also love to see @stuffmadehere chime in with his thoughts of your lock)
Cause he's got one video. :P I'm certain if he releases projects of this quality on a consistent basis, he will find himself with more subscribers than he can count.
Well currently there is only one video afaik. So there is potential, let's see what's next :)
I came here for this comment. LPL worked with @stuffmadehere and would no doubt enjoy giving this lock a try. Interesting design. Well done video. With 4.23m subscribers you'll get a boatload of feedback, the best of which will come from LPL himself. Good luck to you.
Edit: New subscriber now.
I really hop LPL gets ahold of this lock
Wow man, that's really great approach to making unpickable lock! Instead of trying to inovate something new and too complicated, you just focused on fondumental problem of regular locks and improved upon it.. and in result you got remarkable lock!
This ist the most Insane Quality of a Video i have seen on RUclips. I will now proceed to watch all your videos this night.
I have never seen something so lovingly constructed and edited together, the camera angles, the lighting, how many weeks did this whole project take to produce?
Months*
@@worksbydesigndayum
@@worksbydesign Well it was worth it. This is S-Tier content. A couple thousand people already said it but keep it up.
I absolutely love your work, you deserve so many more subscribers, I was just thinking about Stuff made here's "unpickable lock" and how I'd like to see a part two and then this came up in my feed!
This is impressive. SMH’s project was awesome but something about this design that’s incredibly elegant being made from 2D parts. Very good design that appears could be manufactured pretty reasonably. Curious to see LPL’s response. Been waiting for SMH to redesign for him.
Exactly what I was thinking.
That is some amazing design work. Sure hope to see LPL take this on in the future.
dude just popped out of nowhere and created what stuff made here couldnt. awesome content!
Wow! Excellent video and a clever design. Looks like it came from a channel with millions of subscribers, so I'm honored to be the 38th subscriber!
Much appreciated, I'm glad you enjoyed the content!
4 days later and at nearly 6k, safe to say it's taking off now!
Love this video. Watching you design and build something like this motivates me to go work on my own project. Thanks!
Normally, people designing hard to pick locks try to prevent access to the pins, but his tries to prevent turning and that's kind of a novelty! Imagine you would now join forces with Stuff Made Here and make a hard-to-access-hard-to-turn lock: that would be insane.
Before sending to the LPL, have you tried the obvious and less obvious bypass mechanisms? E.g. is the lock shielded from a bypass driver directly manipulating the core? This thing looks awesome and surprisingly simple in manufacturing so I'd love to see if it's viable.
Everybody pro until LPL tries it. Unpickable lock doesn't exist, and whenever somebody says it does it instantly implicates that he doesn't know anything about locks.
Given he's some guy doing a project and not a team of experts at a company, I would like to see LPL to take a stab without any bypasses unless they're inevitable based on the lock design.
@@WsciekleMlekoLPL has yet to pick the Bowler (?) lock with the U shaped key, and some fancy Abbloy.
@@fmaz1952 Bowley was picked somebody else already.
As far as shielding, the back of the lock has a cover, and a secondary 'step' or bump - meaning a shim would have to turn 90 degrees to get to get between the door and the lock. But I'm sure there's another bypass that I hadn't thought of, or maybe 90 degrees doesn't really matter to an experienced picker.
One suggestion for the core that you split into four parts to make machinable, I would make one half of the cylinder slightly shorter and the other have a full face that covers the shorter half so that you don’t see the split in the middle once fully assembled. Time 11:48 for reference.
Nice tip, I’ll be sure to think of this in future designs
Amazing! I am excited to see what you make next. Dont hurry yourself though! Your time and care shows in what you've made 😊
"unpickable lock" is one of my favourite mental exercises. I still have one idea that might be more resistant than this, but that's probably will have to wait till retirement xD
This is like watching a Hacksmith video, but for practical uses. Nice.
Huge compliment! thank you!
production quality here is next level.
didn't expect this to be the first video on this channel , can't wait for more
The way to pick this is similar to the Bowley lock: A series of really thin picks pressed together into a single device, all shaped to interact on a single pin.
That said, it requires a custom, often rare, tool, that is also kind of clumsy to use. You'd be force-decoding the lock basically, and that can take a long time.
I had to slow the video down at the part where he sketches the idea - just to grasp the concept. It worked, i now understand the little pins and how to use them in the design to prevent lock picking.
You are so organized- and although my brain understands the organization, i am not an organized person in any way. Thank God youtube allows me to slow down and rewind at will!
Great vid! I'd love to see how LPL cracks this too!
i'd like to add to the praise you are deservedly receiving in the comments. you made it look easy, but it's also easy to tell you put a lot of effort into the project. on top of that, you recorded every step of the process and formed a cohesive video. hope you keep up the good work, do take care not to burn out as high quality videos like these are rare and precious indeed.
This is awesome! You had an idea, refined it a bit, tested it to see if it was feasible, then did it!
Great video. Your lock design is intriguing, and the cinematography is really good.
Beautiful finish on that lock. Truly a piece of art and technology combined into an amazing creation. I take my hat off to you Sir.
top quality, love how you walk us though the whole process and how you gave a perfect example of how to improve from fixing mistakes, subscribed
Instant like for those pen and paper drawings. They were amazing.
Really glad to have found this channel! I sense it's going to become huge for you, so well done!
Woah I thought this was a big channel, the quality and video effort is fantastic. Hopefully your interactions with the big names on this side of youtube will get you a ton of the attention you deserve.
SO TALENTED in every way !!! utterly incredible talent for precision manufacturing, CAD skills and then amazing and entertaining videography. I very rarely watch a video all the way through but this was just something else. How could you not watch it from start to finish and not enjoy the incredible show this RUclipsr has generously put on for us. You will be a rocket to the stars with content like this. Really well done. This is what makes RUclips so great as a platform.
I was also impressed with how the cad designs can be made to move. I wonder how that works.
@@EnergeticWaves probably a very steep learning curve.
Im impressed that you're still responding to comments 6 months on, hope LPL gets in touch soon!
Love your design. I've always though that the best defense against picking or decoding a lock, is to have a mechanism that prevents tensioning, until all the pins are set.
Part of the issue is that the tension on the core (against the top pin) and the tension against the security bars are essentially the same thing. The levers just moved the top pin to the sides and made everything more loose. The tolerances are super loose as well, I was excited to see the side "pins" be unrelated to the top pins and interlocked between them but that's not what happened, the "gravestone" pins don't really provide any security.
As a rule of thumb, if you can manipulate it you can control it. And we can directly manipulate where the side pins are.
you've earned my subscription already. You have one video so far, and just like a certain person who makes stuff in a nearby location, i hope you can grow your channel and keep pumping out amazing content. I can't wait to see what you work on next.
Amazing how such a simple channel as LPL has become a legend.
Love your lock, looks great.
I'm super impressed. I've watched a lot on locks and lock picking. I really like the design and wish you success with it. 👍🏼
What a beautiful piece of machinery! Excellent work!
Looks great. What prevents it from being vulnerable to an overlift attack? It seems you could comb lift all pins, rotate it a bit, then let all the driver "pins" drop back down on the plug due to the wide size of the top of the drivers.
The "serrated arm" has two sides, so if the pins were to be over lifted, the opposite side of teeth will move into the core and it wont be able to be rotated/tensioned... hopefully.
@@worksbydesign ahhh very nice feature, I missed that part!
when I saw this video, I would have never considered it to be your first one, the quality is amazing, and in less than a week, you are already up to almost 4.5k subscribers, I definetly hope to see what you come up with next, just remember not to be too focused on making each video perfect, or it will never be released
i love seeing and hearing "pickproof" and "un-pickable lock" it just means theres gunna be a reaaly really good lock picking lawyer and BosnianBill video coming out soon.
It seems like those sliders act similar to security pins. Those are pickable. The mechanism seems to prevent raking or pickgun methods, but picking it pin by pin should still work. With so many moving parts it's also hard to keep tolerances tight, which IMO is important to prevent setting individual pins easily.
I‘m really happy that the RUclips algorithm suggested this video. The quality of this content is outstanding and deserved an instant subscription. Looking forward to seeing your lock being analyzed by LPL!
This turned up in my youtube recommendations and for once youtube did a good job, super high quality well edited video dude, well explained and illustrated and a crazy amount of effort to model, create and assemble all those lock prototypes. I hope the lockpickinglawyer and you are able to get in contact, this video's gonna blow up.
Amazing cinematic and angles! Not to mention an amazing build
for info : your lock is copying a regular pin tumbler still, since spool pins also do the exact same thing, and you do something called "counter rotation" to avoid falling into that trap. so it is not unpickable.
Subscribed immediately! What a piece of art this video is! The editing, the camerawork, everything feels right! Good job! I Cant wait to see this in the hands of the LPL!
Dang, this is a clever design. Looks like this took quite some time to design, build, and refine. Well done! Your persistence is admirable my friend.
this is a really cool design, as it's a hybrid between modern tumbler locks and traditional lever locks
SELL IT!!! million dollar concept executed really well.
Absolutely insane craftsmanship. Keep up the great content!