Muslims don't really want the Vatican. As a matter of fact, there wouldn't be a clash between Christianity and Islam if it weren't for zionist schemes pitting us against each other every few years.
Bektashi is the true Islam since it also allows proper criticism of Muhammad PBUH, since he is not God. Many Bektashi have ecumenical relations with Christians.
They still believe muhammad is last prophet, but hold believe ali is manifested divine light, his knowledge spiritual is eternal to these day what's the criticism about muhammad? Don't think it's because aisha married, again? Cause bektashi before 19th century is doing that also
I think that something this small probably won't have any major impacts on interfaith relations or the status of Muslims in Albania, good or bad, but I enjoy the concept of another microstate in Europe so I'm all for it lol
It sounds like a good thing for Albania, and says a lot about the climate there that this kind of proposal has gotten so far. It makes me reflect upon the concept of statehood and sovereignty versus other solutions that could be taken to reach the same end. I don't know how it would impact the trajectory of a religion with nearly 2 billion followers and so many different sects, but maybe it will be something easy for non-Muslims to look at to understand that the religion and its followers are quite diverse in their beliefs and practices, and encourage more inter-faith dialogue.
@@homuraakemi493 You realise Shari'a only applies to Muslims, right? Not only do most people have different interpretations of it, since it's a way of life, the majority of Muslims don't want it codified or legally enforced.
@@user-xsn5ozskwg They always assume that "muslims will conquer europe through Sharia". Sort of that conspiracy theory that "jews control the world". Now it is "Muslims want to conquer the world".
Conceptually a "sovereign state" has a defined territory, a government (free of a superior government's jurisdiction), and a population. Does anyone live in the proposed state? This sounds more like SMOM than Vatican City...
In a country ( albania), where muslim percentage of population, is going down rapidly the last 2 decades- some believe that today, less than 50% of albanians define themselves as muslims, already.
@@DriftedVisionMan its pretty much all religions in albania are affected by this. the secularization that happened was very strong. the interesting thing is population of albania is only 2 million but albanians that live outside of albania are about 9 million and oddly enough, albanians outside of albania are much more religious than albanians in albania
This whole video is filled with errors. I don't even know where to start. I want to post a long reply breaking down each point and why they're incorrect, but I worry it'll just be for nought because of YT's arbitrary and extreme censorship. Unless I'm mistaken this is your second video on this same topic and it managed to include more errors than the last.
@@interrobangings woman treated good in islam, Mother is 3 times better than father, before islam Arabia man forced buried woman into benneath Also Man and Woman have equal punishments regarding what their crime, Woman can participate intellectual things and it's not considered witch Where is mistreating woman in islam?
@@interrobangings sexuality is not something be borned, there is no gay genes and human naturally evolved by heterosexuality Lgbt is against the nature of human being
@@interrobangings woman treated good in islam, Mother is 3 times better than father, before islam Arabia man forced buried woman into benneath Also Man and Woman have equal punishments regarding what their crime, Woman can participate intellectual things and it's not considered witch Where is mistreating woman in islam?
People say this will be done to combat radicalism but I wonder how giving land to a minuscule Shia sect would combat radicalism in a country where most of its Ms are Suni.
Once again GC delivering context I couldn’t find elsewhere! I heard the premise and thought “huh why not?” Now I hear the idea is sponsored by a socialist PM with the explicit aim of promoting a more liberal interpretation of the religion, not so candidly in opposition to the predominant flavor in the rest of the Muslim world, I’m quite a bit more skeptical. I’m not at all a fan of the entrenched hardline Sunni and Shia institutions in SA or Iran, nor the discrimination that Alevi-Bektashis face, but government trying to establish religion is just as bad as religion establishing government IMO.
@ “have an opportunity to reinforce their commitment to promoting moderate and peaceful interpretations of Islam” sounds a lot to me like saying Liberal Islam is good, conservative Islam is bad. I’m Catholic and personally probably get along with liberal Muslims more, but promoting one means discouraging the other which shouldn’t be the policy of Albania in my view.
@@zachl3330the problem with "liberalism" is.. ok today, you pander to the gays, tomorrow you'll pander to paedos, the day after you'll pander to nudists, then you'll pander to murderers etc.
wow, i wonder if there would be a an annual theological contest between the Vatican and Bektashi states, would be interested to see the pope drop some bars on grand Sheikh.
All Muslim majority countries in Europe have this same approach. Adhering to religion is voluntary, and has been for centuries in country where I come from - Bosnia. And we're a majority Muslim country.
@@libertas5005 I like it. I had a bosnian friend and you would never guess he's muslim, yet they still are proud muslims. Its more of a cultural thing there rather than a way of life
Allah SWT.Never taught that there are sects in Islam. The right only to who follows the Al-Qur'an and the hadith. 2:07 this sufi Not following 100% in Al-Qur'an and hadith. They are not Muslim
Allah SWT.Never taught that there are sects in Islam. The right only to who follows the Al-Qur'an and the hadith. 2:07 this sufi Not following 100% in Al-Qur'an and hadith. They are not Muslim
If they recognize God and believe in God and follow God's path by doing good deeds in this world, they are Muslim by definition. I would argue they are more Muslim that half of the Arab population that is promoting violence and extremism that isn't even backed up by the Qur'an or the hadith, but is rather rooted in backward patriarchal practices of the Arab peninsula dating from pre-Islamic cultures.
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Muslims: "We want the Vatican"
Albanians: "We have the Vatican at home"
Vatican at home:
Muslims don't really want the Vatican. As a matter of fact, there wouldn't be a clash between Christianity and Islam if it weren't for zionist schemes pitting us against each other every few years.
Doesn't sound like Islamic microstate, more like bektashi microstate.
Bektashi is the true Islam since it also allows proper criticism of Muhammad PBUH, since he is not God. Many Bektashi have ecumenical relations with Christians.
They still believe muhammad is last prophet, but hold believe ali is manifested divine light, his knowledge spiritual is eternal to these day
what's the criticism about muhammad? Don't think it's because aisha married, again? Cause bektashi before 19th century is doing that also
Kinda, they are a cult (really old one)
Pope has been real quiet since this dropped
Yes he has😂😂😂😂
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Minor set back for a major comeback when Pope declare new crusade to gain new land😂
Seems like this may be a good thing for Albania. Great vid!
THIS AIN'T DROPPED YET MY BRO 🔥🔥🔥
Way over my head but that’s exactly why I follow because I always learn something. Thank you 👏👏
I think that something this small probably won't have any major impacts on interfaith relations or the status of Muslims in Albania, good or bad, but I enjoy the concept of another microstate in Europe so I'm all for it lol
Europe is one thing! The eu is a totally different thing!
True, the EU doesn't represent all of Europe.
@ChristopherSobieniak exactly! It pisses me off when people use Europe and the eu interchangeably! Or they say eu but actually mean Europe.
@@TheWedabestsame!
It sounds like a good thing for Albania, and says a lot about the climate there that this kind of proposal has gotten so far. It makes me reflect upon the concept of statehood and sovereignty versus other solutions that could be taken to reach the same end. I don't know how it would impact the trajectory of a religion with nearly 2 billion followers and so many different sects, but maybe it will be something easy for non-Muslims to look at to understand that the religion and its followers are quite diverse in their beliefs and practices, and encourage more inter-faith dialogue.
Interfaith dialogue:
Nonmuslim: we dont want shari'a
Muslims: too bad.
@@homuraakemi493 What are you talking about? Have you even watched this video? Talking out of your ass is never a good thing.
@@homuraakemi493Even Muslims hate Sharia in Albania, what are you talking??
@@homuraakemi493 You realise Shari'a only applies to Muslims, right? Not only do most people have different interpretations of it, since it's a way of life, the majority of Muslims don't want it codified or legally enforced.
@@user-xsn5ozskwg They always assume that "muslims will conquer europe through Sharia". Sort of that conspiracy theory that "jews control the world". Now it is "Muslims want to conquer the world".
The muridiyya in Senegal have also wanted this, so this could be another thing
Conceptually a "sovereign state" has a defined territory, a government (free of a superior government's jurisdiction), and a population. Does anyone live in the proposed state? This sounds more like SMOM than Vatican City...
good video good channel
In a country ( albania), where muslim percentage of population, is going down rapidly the last 2 decades- some believe that today, less than 50% of albanians define themselves as muslims, already.
Is that the case for other religions (Catholics and Orthodox) in Albania as well? Or just Muslim sects?
@@DriftedVisionMan its pretty much all religions in albania are affected by this. the secularization that happened was very strong. the interesting thing is population of albania is only 2 million but albanians that live outside of albania are about 9 million and oddly enough, albanians outside of albania are much more religious than albanians in albania
@@slightlyopinionated8107 not really we are 20 million
thank goodness for that!
@interrobangings thank yourselfs we don't
“Babe, wake up, new country dropped!”
Aren't tired to repeat the same saying with that "babe wake up"?
This whole video is filled with errors. I don't even know where to start. I want to post a long reply breaking down each point and why they're incorrect, but I worry it'll just be for nought because of YT's arbitrary and extreme censorship.
Unless I'm mistaken this is your second video on this same topic and it managed to include more errors than the last.
The Ayatollah of Tiranë!
trade alcohol for weed. alcohol is explicitly called out in the Qur'an but not weed.. weed was even allowed during the ummayid caliphate.
All of the intoxication is haram including weed, drugs
@@fazrieisa6654and mistreating women and LGBT isn't. Weird, that
@@interrobangings woman treated good in islam, Mother is 3 times better than father,
before islam Arabia man forced buried woman into benneath
Also Man and Woman have equal punishments regarding what their crime, Woman can participate intellectual things and it's not considered witch
Where is mistreating woman in islam?
@@interrobangings sexuality is not something be borned, there is no gay genes and human naturally evolved by heterosexuality
Lgbt is against the nature of human being
@@interrobangings woman treated good in islam, Mother is 3 times better than father,
before islam Arabia man forced buried woman into benneath
Also Man and Woman have equal punishments regarding what their crime, Woman can participate intellectual things and it's not considered witch
Where is mistreating woman in islam?
Albania in 50% Muslim
58% was in 2011
Yeah it's basically a secular country that is Muslim in name only
they all are going to the uk and other European countries lol😂😂
Albania is Serbia
@@DiegosarmiiGreece is Albania
People say this will be done to combat radicalism but I wonder how giving land to a minuscule Shia sect would combat radicalism in a country where most of its Ms are Suni.
There's probably some major political wind behind this, and I sense the direction is somewhere from the Israeli coast.
@@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 they are friends with Israel
@@federal_kingdom_of_illyria2023most countries that aren't 3rd world shitholes are indeed friends with israel
Bektahis are consider themself different religion . Similiar to Islam but totally different religion
Albania is always doing some funny business
@@DianeCooperTW Albania has business with everyone and everything
Once again GC delivering context I couldn’t find elsewhere!
I heard the premise and thought “huh why not?”
Now I hear the idea is sponsored by a socialist PM with the explicit aim of promoting a more liberal interpretation of the religion, not so candidly in opposition to the predominant flavor in the rest of the Muslim world, I’m quite a bit more skeptical.
I’m not at all a fan of the entrenched hardline Sunni and Shia institutions in SA or Iran, nor the discrimination that Alevi-Bektashis face, but government trying to establish religion is just as bad as religion establishing government IMO.
Supporting a sect doesn't mean Support liberalism
@ “have an opportunity to reinforce their commitment to promoting moderate and peaceful interpretations of Islam” sounds a lot to me like saying Liberal Islam is good, conservative Islam is bad. I’m Catholic and personally probably get along with liberal Muslims more, but promoting one means discouraging the other which shouldn’t be the policy of Albania in my view.
@@zachl3330
Neglecting authenticated data for dogmatic interpretations is just downgrading
@zachl3330
Moreover Islam is based on individualism adoption Christian concept like Papacy is another downgrading
@@zachl3330the problem with "liberalism" is.. ok today, you pander to the gays, tomorrow you'll pander to paedos, the day after you'll pander to nudists, then you'll pander to murderers etc.
Israhell has a hand in this
oh ew, an islamo-fascist
go mistreat women and lgbts elsewhere
I think it would be a great step to allow such a state to exist
An interesting concept for Albania. I was unaware of this sect. On the surface it is a good idea. We shall see🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢🟢
I thought this video will insult christian rather than muslim
wow, i wonder if there would be a an annual theological contest between the Vatican and Bektashi states, would be interested to see the pope drop some bars on grand Sheikh.
Oh hell yeah the fun sect is getting its own state! Good for them.
Alcohol is an abomination.
so is wahhabism
alcohol is a natural byproduct of fermentation lmao
Abomination is marrying prepubescent girls and cousins. Genital mutilation and animal sacrifice.
@@libertas5005alcohol is everywhere even in baby bottles
so is islam
0 views in 11 seconds bro fell off
First comment pissing and memeing about a channel that actually provides value. Your life fell off.
Fr😭🙏
Please be quiet 👍
@@aethynlorimer9593 🤫🤫🤫 Shh......
@@aethynlorimer9593 Nuh uh
Mysticism, allows alcohol, doesnt force women to cover, imposes no lifestyle rules. Sounds like the type of islam I would follow
All Muslim majority countries in Europe have this same approach. Adhering to religion is voluntary, and has been for centuries in country where I come from - Bosnia. And we're a majority Muslim country.
Islam doesn't force women to cover!
My aunt practices Sunni Islam, she doesn't cover, just only when she prays
Sufism means avoiding the wordy life and dedicated to worship meaning more practice, not less practice
@@libertas5005 I like it. I had a bosnian friend and you would never guess he's muslim, yet they still are proud muslims. Its more of a cultural thing there rather than a way of life
@@eaglempire_mapperoh so they just went after mahsa amini for no reason? neat
I’ve heard this might jsut be a ruse for Albanian Muslims to get away with drinking.
And some money laundry schenes
"islamic country"
the country; some unknown sect that deviates from the sunnah.
Allah SWT.Never taught that there are sects in Islam.
The right only to who follows the Al-Qur'an and the hadith.
2:07 this sufi Not following 100% in Al-Qur'an and hadith. They are not Muslim
Allah SWT.Never taught that there are sects in Islam.
The right only to who follows the Al-Qur'an and the hadith.
2:07 this sufi Not following 100% in Al-Qur'an and hadith. They are not Muslim
What happened on Ghadeer?
If they recognize God and believe in God and follow God's path by doing good deeds in this world, they are Muslim by definition. I would argue they are more Muslim that half of the Arab population that is promoting violence and extremism that isn't even backed up by the Qur'an or the hadith, but is rather rooted in backward patriarchal practices of the Arab peninsula dating from pre-Islamic cultures.
@@AlfarrisiMuammar
They are not sufi either. They aren't sunni or Shia just complete hersey
"you're not attacking women and LGBT people??? YOU'RE NOT A REAL MUSLIM"
thank goodness for that
The bektashi are not Islamic its a cult! Its a narco state
Disgusting!
Hoxha was better.
In your dreams