A Mysterious Modern Horizons 3 Package I Had No Idea was Arriving

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @truegamerking
    @truegamerking 4 месяца назад +47

    I do think it's very funny that the modern flagship set came out with commander decks

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +7

      It's wild!

    • @hearmth6618
      @hearmth6618 4 месяца назад +4

      That aren't modern legal 😂🎉🎊

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      Even wilder frankly

    • @nothing4mepls973
      @nothing4mepls973 4 месяца назад +3

      All products and formats are Commander now. Commander is eternal, even when they find a way to make it limited!

  • @Cookiedive
    @Cookiedive 4 месяца назад +21

    I like all the Red Bobcat's videos

  • @garbonzo_bean1532
    @garbonzo_bean1532 4 месяца назад +8

    I'm a big fan on this "nontent"! It feels like I'm opening packs with a friend or something

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Haha, well I hope that's a good thing, and thank you

    • @Lemon_Sage9999
      @Lemon_Sage9999 2 месяца назад

      Forreal, getting excited about cool art and flavor, not just skipping to rares and not trying to be sweaty about limited deckbuilding brings a more "couch pack-cracking" feel

  • @dendostar5436
    @dendostar5436 4 месяца назад +19

    Hooray, free stuff!

  • @user-to9ge8ii9n
    @user-to9ge8ii9n 4 месяца назад +23

    Is Mr Hands a reference people across the pond know? If so, he's really making a lot of hay from the joke, almost beating a dead horse.

  • @kiprasking8581
    @kiprasking8581 4 месяца назад +18

    It's modern and there are Horizons. 10/10 vid

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      I thought something similar about Commander Masters haha, and thank you. 10/10 comment

  • @connorcoolralts5228
    @connorcoolralts5228 4 месяца назад +3

    2:41 Hot take: tamiyo's not dead, her little rat son is gonna use some bs moonfolk tech to revive her next time we go to kamigawa. Death has meant so so little so I'm calling it now.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      I would like that honestly. Big fan of Tamiyo

    • @RaptieFeathers
      @RaptieFeathers 2 месяца назад

      Ouch.
      This aged... It aged.
      F for Tammy

  • @JervisGermane
    @JervisGermane 4 месяца назад +12

    Hooray for more of Mr. Hands.
    And for Zatu's weird behavior. "Here's thousands in free stuff with no explanation or obligation. Do what you want."

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +6

      Yeah, like... I'm not complaining. But, do they even watch these videos?

    • @thediamondjames
      @thediamondjames 4 месяца назад +2

      I think we need more of this blind support of dedicated content creators in the world. It's wholesome.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I think it's great actually

  • @sidestrafegaming3489
    @sidestrafegaming3489 4 месяца назад +18

    You're right you really can't build a deck with what you got. A few stand out pulls would cut the cost on a few of the meta modern decks. Modern is a format that needs 4 copies of certain cards to be meta so you're really never going to build a deck out of what you get from a box. You kinda just have to order singles.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +6

      That... that really sucks actually

    • @Red-Tower
      @Red-Tower 4 месяца назад +1

      You also opened zero rare fetch lands somehow, which makes it even harder. Like my sealed pool at prerelease had 2-3 rare fetches.
      But yeah, half (or more) of the cost of some modern decks is just the mana base. Although if you opened a LotR bundle you would get 1/4 the other half of the cost of a modern because The One Ring is in almost all modern decks rn.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      Still got that Gift Edition to open though, so fingers crossed

  • @murphystegall5145
    @murphystegall5145 4 месяца назад +3

    I honestly think using the old brown for colorless cards would of been preferable. While it is true it fits better within modern visual design it's not actually what was used back then and thus faux retro. It's especially crude because Karn had cards before the design change that used the old brown and as such it especially makes sense for him to have a brown frame.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I understand why they did it but it is still a weird choice

  • @winter945
    @winter945 4 месяца назад +2

    9:01 so I get to be a little pedantic here, the legends you mentioned in legends were only made common in masters edition 3, this is what makes them legal in pauper. This means the only other legends printed at common in paper are the 2 mono red creatures in homelands, Chandler and Joven. This does mean the fun fact that in paper the only common legends are all mono red. Once again homelands is forgotten (probably as it should be)

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      These were some very fun facts, I stand corrected!

  • @kroek
    @kroek 4 месяца назад +1

    About the weird inclusions of reference cards, I think they're really nice. I bought a bundle and even though I don't need them to play, it still makes it easier for me (as someone who knows the basic rules to play) to introduce magic to new players so they can have a piece to remind them throughout a game while I sit back and counterspell them.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh yeah, I have nothing against them. Just in a £85 bundle seems a bit weird. I'm not sure how many new players would be picking this product up, you know?

    • @kroek
      @kroek 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RedBobcatGames Oh absolutely. I agree with you there.

    • @Red-Tower
      @Red-Tower 4 месяца назад

      I think they would have been better served as like, mdfc tokens or something. Just a little more practical imo

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      I mean even a full set of the art cards could have gone in here as an extra little bonus thing

    • @kroek
      @kroek 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Red-Tower Absolutely, there's no denying that the space could have been utilized better

  • @autinbutin2698
    @autinbutin2698 4 месяца назад +6

    It feels like Modern Horizons 3 was mostly meant to push new staples and strategies into the game, not encapsulate entire decks worth of cards into one set. I don't think you would ever have gotten a 100% ready-to-play serious Modern deck out of a bundle like that. The best cards you got were Phlage, Creation of Avacyn, Galvanic Discharge, and Strix Serenade IMO (and two of those are because of commander the way I see things).
    What I like about Magic, even to this day, is that most of the time cards just *work*. Even if it's not super optimal, you can build a deck with what you have and play it. That's more than can be said about Yugioh (which I do love, but it hurts opening a box and not having the mandatory 3-of secret rare that the whole archetype depends on).
    Try building a pair of two-color decks with the cards you have. You'll see my point. They won't be super clean or make any coherent sense, but the cards will still do their jobs and you'll probably still have fun.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +3

      Oh that's interesting. I hadn't considered part of why they didn't make precons was because there wasn't really a decks worth of cards in the set. I suppose you'd need a bunch more reprints to pull that off. Very interesting perspective, thank you for sharing

    • @autinbutin2698
      @autinbutin2698 4 месяца назад +3

      @@RedBobcatGames Of course! I absolutely wish they had made precons like they did for Pioneer though. They wouldn't ever be good, I know that for a fact, but they'd at least demonstrate how to build and play Modern.

    • @broodlingg
      @broodlingg 4 месяца назад +3

      @@RedBobcatGames in my opinion, there is no real reason they couldn't have made modern precons for this set. The only thing that makes it hard to make a modern precon in wizards eyes is that in order to effectively encapsulate the power level of modern they would need to reprint many cards that haven't been reprinted in forever and drop the price of many ultra powerful staples or price the shit out of those precons. They however completely ignore the lower power level of modern jank because they feel like there isn't enough of an audience wanting low power modern decks.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      And yet, they do want to print cards for it. Just not decks it seems. Very strange

    • @autinbutin2698
      @autinbutin2698 4 месяца назад +3

      @@RedBobcatGames Mark Rosewater With regards to why Modern precons weren't printed: "As for making pre-constructed decks for Modern, there are some huge challenges. The power level needed to be viable in Modern does not line up with the price point players are willing to pay for a pre-constructed deck."
      I found that this was shared on a Tumblr Q&A. This is the closest WOTC has come in awhile to acknowledging the secondary market and their impact on it. Very frustrating.

  • @DigitalinDaniel
    @DigitalinDaniel 4 месяца назад +1

    Springheart Nantuko and Phlage are so good, I also really like the Landscape lands in this set.
    I like the Djinn change, efreet and many other genies are all technically djinn.
    I believe that's how you pronounce Freyalise, but I'm pretty sure Thraben is Thray-ben.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      Did you see my video on serialization? Pronunciation is clearly not my strong suit haha

  • @charlieread7097
    @charlieread7097 4 месяца назад +2

    I enjoy an appearance from Mr Hands, he's an icon

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      He's a pain who keeps making mistakes is what he is

  • @thembosupremepizza1827
    @thembosupremepizza1827 4 месяца назад +2

    i think they changed it to djinn to make it more consistent with dungeons and dragons lore.
    also nice phlage, i would faint if i opened it

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Is that a good one? I basically never pay attention to the secondary market and am totally out of the loop with Modern

  • @moleculeman27
    @moleculeman27 4 месяца назад +3

    Weren't there common legends in Kamigawa block? Perfectly willing to be wrong...

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +3

      I double checked and seemingly no. But I too, am willing to be wrong haha

    • @Red-Tower
      @Red-Tower 4 месяца назад +2

      Pretty sure it was only uncommon and above, and a quick scryfall search confirms

  • @pbplayerjim
    @pbplayerjim 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm a big fan of commander horizons 3

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      Even with that aspect, I'd have still been a bigger fan if it were cheaper honestly

    • @Tubluer
      @Tubluer 4 месяца назад +2

      @@RedBobcatGames Yup, the cost is wild. I wanted to buy a couple of draft boxes, but settled for one (1) precon.

  • @brianlinden3042
    @brianlinden3042 4 месяца назад +1

    "Modern, the format that this set was designed specifically for..." LOL.

  • @DecksmithMTG
    @DecksmithMTG 4 месяца назад +2

    You can make an energy deck using phlage and amped raptor since both are extremely powerful

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      From the cards in this alone?

    • @DecksmithMTG
      @DecksmithMTG 4 месяца назад +2

      @@RedBobcatGames oh, absolutely not, unless it's mh3 draft. Maybe a PAUPER deck

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Damn. Well maybe if I combine it with the next box too? Haven't seen what's in there yet

  • @airtempest8945
    @airtempest8945 4 месяца назад +3

    I think of all those cards, the only ones that currently see play in Modern are Galvanic Recharge as basically Unholy Heat's replacement, Marionette Apprentice in Yawgmoth (It's only downside compared to Zulaport Cutthroat/Blood Artist is that you can't combo kill your opponent if they have more life than you when you try to go for the combo since Yawgmoth's ability costs a life, but making a 1/1 on a ping when a creature dies effect is so good in that deck), Meltdown is a sideboard card sometimes (Though it's not as impactful as it is in Vintage especially where 0/1 mana artifacts reign supreme), Springheart Nantuko and Sylvan Safekeeper are good in Nadu for both being an easy combo enabler and keeping your combo safe respectively. Phlage is a nice card for aggressive Boros decks.
    Other than that and then Bolt yourself to untap lands with spells on the front (even then, the Bridge one is so bad on the frontside it's probably not viable), the rest are kind of "Well, they might see play in Pauper" or just "Well, that was certainly a card that will be played in draft". There might be more though since I don't play too much modern but I like to follow the meta and those are the ones that I know of from that collection that would.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      So, no then? Basically I didn't get a Modern deck out of this? That's a real shame, these bundles aren't cheap either

    • @DecksmithMTG
      @DecksmithMTG 4 месяца назад

      Modern decks are usually 7-12 hundred dollars each. Also most modern decks arent just mh3, they use shocks, fetchs, mh2 cards and lotr cards mainly.
      Realistically maybe 12 bundles could get some playsets of the best cards in modern right now​...
      @@RedBobcatGames

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Hey @Zatu send 12 bundles next time!

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RedBobcatGames Yeah, Modern decks basically require that you have all the fetches for the lands you have, the shock lands, and so on, unless you're in mono-red burn (And even then, burn usually wants them so it can splash white). That's why they all cost like 1000 USD.
      The most effective thing you could probably make using the set list of MH3 (Including Draft special Guests) for Modern is like Green Eldrazi Ramp/Tron, since all you really need is Tron if you're doing Tron + Ancient Stirrings + Expedition Map and the Eldrazi like Devourer of Destiny are strong enough.
      Main reason for this is that the only non-dual Temple lands it needs are the occassional Blast Zone or Ghost Quarter. Endurance being in the guest list of the draft really helps because otherwise you'd have 0 Graveyard hate for the sideboard, even if Endurance isn't the best in this deck due to most of the cards not being green.
      It wouldn't be meta, but you might be able to pull some wins with that.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      Reading comments like this makes me get why WotC didn't want to print Modern decks. But the fact Modern is so expensive to get into is exactly why they should have done it

  • @GunLut
    @GunLut 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm not even gonna pretend that I am not extremely jealous 😂
    But this is great so cool that you can enjoy this.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you. I'm thrilled and confused honestly haha

  • @LittleMushroomGuy
    @LittleMushroomGuy 3 месяца назад +1

    Zatu is BaZed

  • @Sammy-oq6sp
    @Sammy-oq6sp 3 месяца назад

    That was a pretty good bundle! The problem with the modern format is the cost of the staples and the need to carry four of each one, some decks are worth enormous amounts of money if you want to be competitive with them... a shame that this set didn't provide any support to the new players who are interested in modern.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  3 месяца назад

      New players to the format like me. Yeah, it is a shame honestly because I would have given Modern a go otherwise

  • @icarusmcduck9309
    @icarusmcduck9309 4 месяца назад

    Mr. Hands is easily my favourite side character on a RUclips channel, second place is also Green, so you've got a good track record if your criteria is stuff that entertains me specifically lol
    Anyway some unconscionably optimistic speculation about why Zatu is sending you so much free stuff: they probably figure if they're nice enough to small creators, said creators will want to shout them out without having to be forced to. Plus, even if they don't get the shout-out from it, they might figure they're still supporting small creators, which helps more people get into the hobbies they sell, which leads to people googling low cost ways to buy product online, which leads back to them anyway. Just my best uneducated guess though!
    Also also, "nontent" is a great descriptor for a large number of RUclips videos these days- and that's not even mentioning what lands on other platforms- and yours still had more actual thought and care put in than most unpacking videos!

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      To be honest, I'd not considered that for their motives but it does make sense. I hope that's why they're doing it, and I'm not the one too. I hope they're sharing the love

  • @mathieubrebouillet714
    @mathieubrebouillet714 4 месяца назад

    I see that when I gave you a black ability for your dogmeat video i was on the money from your quote there. And I saw my name now at the end *chuckles*

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      I can't help it! The black mana calls to me!

  • @MagusFlorren
    @MagusFlorren 4 месяца назад +3

    Ayeee!! Mr. Hands makes a return. Love that guy

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +2

      He. Keeps. Making. Mistakes!

    • @MagusFlorren
      @MagusFlorren 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RedBobcatGames he needs discipline 👋🏻🔥

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      If he didn't have such a good union he'd be gone

  • @LucasTigy2
    @LucasTigy2 4 месяца назад +1

    well obviously modern horizons 3 play boosters are for drafting, so you're supposed to build a draft deck, silly
    joking aside, i haven't done anything with modern, but the set was a lot of fun at prerelease and to draft.
    you probably couldn't build a modern deck out of what was pulled, but many of the cards from MH3 are modern relevant so it's possible to make a deck just from the set i'm sure.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      Expensive way of doing it though. I do wish they'd made pre-cons

  • @Tubluer
    @Tubluer 4 месяца назад

    I was wondering if Mr Hands was in any way related to Mr. Hat, of South Park fame. Could you ask him?

  • @michaelturner2806
    @michaelturner2806 4 месяца назад

    "It was Wizards of the Coast themselves and how they do business that inspired idea within me"
    Show off the cards, and then have amoral goons show up, claim the cards were stolen, and threaten to break Mr. Hands's fingers if he doesn't hand them all over?

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      I'm going to wait till Christmas then sack him

  • @patcanny7457
    @patcanny7457 4 месяца назад

    Good video

  • @conducktorwhirlwarstartera5055
    @conducktorwhirlwarstartera5055 4 месяца назад

    I don't suppose you'd be willing to part ways with that Gift Bundle spindown, would you? I kinda collect them but I really can't justify dropping the 120USD on a gift bundle JUST for the spindown.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Sadly I also collect them, but I know there are websites where people just sell the dice. Card Market is one I believe

    • @conducktorwhirlwarstartera5055
      @conducktorwhirlwarstartera5055 4 месяца назад

      @@RedBobcatGames Fair enough king! Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      No worries my friend

  • @SoupServerdCold
    @SoupServerdCold 3 месяца назад

    Idk why but your voice reminds me of a childhood cartoon character.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  3 месяца назад

      Let me know which one, I'll know how to feel about it then haha

    • @SoupServerdCold
      @SoupServerdCold 3 месяца назад

      The happy meal packs are a waste of money showing greed. One thing to make it better would be to give all cards in the pack special boarders/ art work same as the cards in the collectors packs have for the lower rarity filler. This would make it better but still not worthwhile. What are your thoughts?

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  3 месяца назад

      Honestly, I think the whole thing needs an over haul. Or, maybe just a return to how it was before Play Boosters. I really don't think people were complaining about Draft, Set and Collector Boosters back then. Everyone had something they wanted. The only people who seem happy with this set up are the suits at Hasbro

    • @SoupServerdCold
      @SoupServerdCold 3 месяца назад +1

      @@RedBobcatGames for real. Drafts sets were fun and a good bit cheaper. It gave you everything you wanted for a better price to experience a set.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  3 месяца назад

      @@SoupServerdCold Yeah, 100%

  • @bluemanblue2316
    @bluemanblue2316 4 месяца назад

    We love nontent, of course, of course we do.

  • @tarastargaze3833
    @tarastargaze3833 4 месяца назад

    I thought MH3 was a Commander set.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      Haha, I mean not technically. But yeah it basically is

  • @nevz97
    @nevz97 4 месяца назад

    2:16 who do you think you are? Ashens?

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      In fairness, I've never seen Mr Hand's face. Could be

    • @nevz97
      @nevz97 4 месяца назад

      If I had a penny for every time a UK RUclipsr done sofa unboxings, I'd have at least 2 pence, strange that it happened twice

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      UK houses are really small. I assume especially in comparison to US ones. That's made really clear when things like VR, Kinect or the Wii gets advertised. Literally no one in England has a living room where you can't touch both sides of a room by just rasining your arms

    • @nevz97
      @nevz97 4 месяца назад +2

      @RedBobcatGames I wasn't even born when the Wii and kinect came out, so I wouldn't know

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      Ahh, well it showed ads of people doing more than hunching into a ball in their living rooms. Which I assume people in the US are able to do

  • @V1C10US
    @V1C10US 4 месяца назад

    90% of the people buying new cards play commander.

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      And I understand why, as that's pretty much all that's available

  • @nothing4mepls973
    @nothing4mepls973 4 месяца назад

    Psst Mr Bobcat! I like your videos but you or your microphone is very "Essy", too much sibalance. Shouldn't be too hard to fix, keep up the good videos 👍

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад +1

      I do need a new microphone, for sure. Once I get enough support on my Patreon I'm going to reinvest in my set up

  • @Tubluer
    @Tubluer 4 месяца назад

    I drop in here every day or two and read all the comments. Do I need to see a psychiatrist?

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  4 месяца назад

      Maybe, no shame in it if so. But also, those things might not be related. I listen to the same song on a loop sometimes when I'm working. This week it was mostly Sabotage by the Beastie Boys. Habbits like that can be good for the brain. Did you know Stephen King's wife threatened to divorce him if he didn't stop playing Mambo No.5 on a loop while he typed? Maybe we all need a psychiatrist? Haha

    • @Tubluer
      @Tubluer 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RedBobcatGames I'll take that as a clean bill of health. If you can't trust a red bobcat, who can you trust? Besides you're an expert. In a "panel of experts" sort of way. Which is not a bad thing. Really, it isn't. Well, not that bad, anyhow. Ta ta and cheerio!

  • @oliverreeves8395
    @oliverreeves8395 4 месяца назад

    mr hands is a fun reference throughout the channel and i enjoy it, but please do not use the "okay" symbol in your videos. it is a known alt right dogwhistle meaning "white power" and its really important not to use. even if you dont believe in the message (which im sure you dont!! this message is placed in good faith and out of love), normalization and use of dogwhistles is a really important stage in radicalizing racists. love the content and keep up the good work ❤

    • @RedBobcatGames
      @RedBobcatGames  3 месяца назад

      I get it, but I don't know that I'm willing to concede "Okay" to the right. It's the most commonly used word on earth, I don't think they get to just own it because they say so. I've had a couple of comments about this now, and it's something I'm unfamiliar with. It's used by divers, and by people working together who don't speak the same language. "Ok" is a symbol of unity, even amoungst diversity because everyone can understand it. It's global, so I don't think we should conform to what fascist want here. We shouldn't let them take this from us. What if they want the thumbs up next? Or smiling? So yeah, I dunno. I hear the feedback and I'll mull this one over, but I think on instinct I'd much rather plant myself and say "No, you move" to them on this issue. Being ok should be for everyone

  • @callumbyrne4263
    @callumbyrne4263 4 месяца назад

    I wonder if I ask theyll send me free stuff

  • @TheEpicChicken
    @TheEpicChicken 4 месяца назад +1

    First?