Hi Kale, I’ve been watching your videos since the start of the year and they have really helped me progress. One of the factors I often feel is overlooked is the transition board from beginner to intermediate as you move to a shorter length. I feel this is one of the most important factors as people progress and I think it would make a good and very helpful video for many people. Keep up the good work!
I'm a physio and surfer. Some of these tests and exercises can be helpful in the right context. But, respectfully... It would be great if functional movement screens predicted injury. They don't. Clicking does not mean instability. These are very unhelpful and inaccurate messages and will stop people getting out there because they feel inadequate or fear they are risking injury.
I’m also a physio and pretend to be a surfer.. but yes I agree with you. Also, the 3 min lumbar test is so arbitrary. Why 3 min? Where’s the evidence that supports a trivial 3 min lumbar extension against gravity will help determine spinal rotation injury incidence/prevention? With my two cents I’d recommend each person seek the advice of a licensed physio to determine fitness and personalized injury prevention program for surfing
Great video. At 45 and with plenty of old injuries I have to do a fair bit of stretching and maintenance (chiro) to get in the water a few times per week. These tests will be good to do regularly to make sure I’m on top of it.
Hi Kale! I really like your POV Videos and how close to the real thing it looks. Can you make a video on how to setup the gopro for these videos, also some tips on water spots not getting stuck on the lens? Thanks
So I know I have a rotator cuff strain, and i'm impressed that you said some of the same tests that let my physio diagnosis it. But what do you recommend to do for it? Is there exercises in the surfers road map for people who fail the tests?
Age 52, had a tib-fib fracture right at the ankle on my rear foot that left my ankle locked in position with an external fixator (screwed into foot and shin) for 8 months followed by a Ti rod, bone graph, and screws. My back foot is no where near hitting 20degrees. Injury was 20 years ago and never realized how must range of motion I lost in the rear foot. I'm going to start stretching it everyday
Title makes it sound like you shouldn't be surfing if you can't do all of these which is misleading. Surfing helps to improve a lot of strength in these areas.
Well not really. I’m searching for what strength should I need to have before surfing. then I found this video. It helps me on what areas of my body to improve first to prevent injuries.
@@arvinsolsona3all in the attitude - if you think you’re not enough before even trying, that’s most likely how you’ll perform either way. Just go and surf (with a coach or someone proficient), see what feels harder or not doable, work on that - as simple as that :) if something is too much to the point of potential injury, you should be able to feel that already at the point of warmup before going to the water Now if you don’t check your body while warming up before any sport - that’s how you set up for injuries Good luck
Just got discharged from physio after shoulder (small front rotator cuff tear) & mid back injury (muscular/not disc per pt) from a trip and fall over chicken wire fence in community garden plot). Has been about 6 months and finally ready to get back to surfing in my later 50's...will switch to SUP if i have 2 but not ready yet!
Nice Kale! Will give these a go! I know i have a bit of trouble with ankle mobility, so its good to have a test to see the if im on the right path. Thanks
Thanks Kale - your trainer is a gem. As a former functional trainer with a C-5/6/7 fusion and a couple of trainwrecks at the levels above and below that, I'm game for the injury prevention training all day long. The types of movements needed to surf are also crucial to longevity and quality of life (and I may or may not be a tad long in the tooth these days). Prior to today I've not jumped over to your site as I never considered myself on a surfing progression (hello landlocked lubber!) but I"m going to purchase the ultimate surf fitness program and start incorporating the program today. Really, truly appreciate you sharing your craft with us. Cheers
Hi kale love the channel Vid idea:What to do if you’ve lost the funk in your surfing I used to be surfing really well but then didn’t surf for a couple months and now I’m struggling with my pop up and confidence please help!!!!!!!
Hey kale, I have a 7"2 47 litre board and have had it for 4 years now. I surf consistently every summer and can turn and genreste speed. I was wandering what board you would recommend?. BTW I love your videos, keep it up 🤙
Hi...ankle movement and the stretching to get that angle is called = "Dorsiflexion". I say this as I believe my own has led to "planter fasciitis". Ankle mobility (or lack of it) can lead to other issues above the ankle...namely hips and glute area. Just sayin. Cheers.
I don’t think you should be trying to isolate the back extensors without the glutes firing. The posterior chain needs to work together. Isolate the extensors and you’re going to get strength without mobility and, eventually, spasms, muscular gripping etc.
You can find lots of videos on RUclips but you can better your ROM until a certain point, we all haver structural limitation. My ankle ROM is not big, and it's not that I'm not a trained guy (I'm a former athlete and Personal Trainer with post graduation in Therapeutic training), it's just my structure. Due to that I had to get stronger in other muscles to compensate and you also need to adapt your surfing/skating to your structure. If you try to copy someone with a huge ankle ROM you wont' be able.
@@matthiasbernardo2621 thanks for the clarification. In my case I have thicker bones, I have tried to step half foot away from wall and my heel has a few millimetres gap under. I have started surfing relatively late as my country of origin doesn’t have surfing. I am working at the moment on the right posture to achieve a decent bottom turn and so on. Realised how important is mobility in surfing. Luckily there are ppl like you guys out there to explain those things in detail. Thanks
I'll have to check this out more. I am an advanced surfer, but I'm soon to be 54, and I have all but stopped surfing because of lower back injury, neck injury and tendinitis in both shoulders. I have really been wanted to start surfing again. I wonder of this course addresses these things? I have some upper neck issues and lumbar especially that wreak havoc...the shoulders are manageable!
Te respondo en español porq es más fácil para mí. Vos traducilo: - Para el primero tenés que elongar los músculos gemelos (eso permite ganar rango de movilidad en el tobillo). - Para el segundo tenés que elongar los abdominales y reforzar la musculatura de los espinales. - Para el tercero tenés que elongar los músculos del cuello como muestra en el minuto 4:14. Es importante sostener el hombro que tiende a moverse (para que no se mueva) y mantener el torso en general quieto (que sólo gire o se incline la cabeza). Cualquier elongación de cuello hacerla más suave y con delicadeza que el resto de los músculos. - Para el cuarto tenes que trabajar la elongación de las distintas porciones musculares del hombro: porción frontal, lateral y posterior. (Buscá ejercicios de elongación de hombro según la porción a trabajar). - Para el quinto tenés que hacer lo mismo que en el segundo pero haciendo más hincapié en la RESISTENCIA de los musculos espinales (no tanto hincapié en el nivel de musculatura de los mismos). Para poder soportar la posición de cabeza erguida y espalda curvada que sostenemos cuando remamos y demás. Te explica ejercicios en el video. Eso es todo, cualquier consulta decime. 🤙🏽🇦🇷
I been following Kale for some time already, Check on his channel “Ultimate mobility routine” there’s really nice videos on exercises everywhere, try to do constant mobility exercises every day will improve your surf. 🤙
Hi Kale, I’ve been watching your videos since the start of the year and they have really helped me progress. One of the factors I often feel is overlooked is the transition board from beginner to intermediate as you move to a shorter length. I feel this is one of the most important factors as people progress and I think it would make a good and very helpful video for many people. Keep up the good work!
He has several videos on fun shapes or "transitional boards."
I'm a physio and surfer. Some of these tests and exercises can be helpful in the right context. But, respectfully...
It would be great if functional movement screens predicted injury. They don't. Clicking does not mean instability. These are very unhelpful and inaccurate messages and will stop people getting out there because they feel inadequate or fear they are risking injury.
I’m also a physio and pretend to be a surfer.. but yes I agree with you. Also, the 3 min lumbar test is so arbitrary. Why 3 min? Where’s the evidence that supports a trivial 3 min lumbar extension against gravity will help determine spinal rotation injury incidence/prevention?
With my two cents I’d recommend each person seek the advice of a licensed physio to determine fitness and personalized injury prevention program for surfing
A friend of mine just checked this vid with her physio, and he agrees on this...
I am not a physio and all of this makes Sense
Donal is an absolute legend! Got a lot of respect for you working with the greats, and getting the best information out there. Awesome stuff dude 🤙🏼
Great video. At 45 and with plenty of old injuries I have to do a fair bit of stretching and maintenance (chiro) to get in the water a few times per week. These tests will be good to do regularly to make sure I’m on top of it.
This is such an informative and quality episode. Outstanding. Thank you so much Kale and Donald
Our pleasure!
Kale - one of the BEST, most helpful videos!!! Thank you ❤
So glad!
Hi Kale! I really like your POV Videos and how close to the real thing it looks. Can you make a video on how to setup the gopro for these videos, also some tips on water spots not getting stuck on the lens? Thanks
So I know I have a rotator cuff strain, and i'm impressed that you said some of the same tests that let my physio diagnosis it. But what do you recommend to do for it? Is there exercises in the surfers road map for people who fail the tests?
Age 52, had a tib-fib fracture right at the ankle on my rear foot that left my ankle locked in position with an external fixator (screwed into foot and shin) for 8 months followed by a Ti rod, bone graph, and screws. My back foot is no where near hitting 20degrees. Injury was 20 years ago and never realized how must range of motion I lost in the rear foot. I'm going to start stretching it everyday
Title makes it sound like you shouldn't be surfing if you can't do all of these which is misleading. Surfing helps to improve a lot of strength in these areas.
Well not really. I’m searching for what strength should I need to have before surfing. then I found this video. It helps me on what areas of my body to improve first to prevent injuries.
Yeah, I have a C7-C8 rib fracture that didn’t heal properly and I would struggle with some of those. Hoping surfing can help a bit.
@@arvinsolsona3all in the attitude - if you think you’re not enough before even trying, that’s most likely how you’ll perform either way.
Just go and surf (with a coach or someone proficient), see what feels harder or not doable, work on that - as simple as that :)
if something is too much to the point of potential injury, you should be able to feel that already at the point of warmup before going to the water
Now if you don’t check your body while warming up before any sport - that’s how you set up for injuries
Good luck
About strength specifically, it comes down to paddling mostly, core of course, and legs a bit
I need a video on 5 signs of clinical depression now after watching this. Kidding....kind of. Great video though!!
Just got discharged from physio after shoulder (small front rotator cuff tear) & mid back injury (muscular/not disc per pt) from a trip and fall over chicken wire fence in community garden plot). Has been about 6 months and finally ready to get back to surfing in my later 50's...will switch to SUP if i have 2 but not ready yet!
Nice Kale! Will give these a go! I know i have a bit of trouble with ankle mobility, so its good to have a test to see the if im on the right path. Thanks
Hi kale I love the channel!
Thanks Kale - your trainer is a gem. As a former functional trainer with a C-5/6/7 fusion and a couple of trainwrecks at the levels above and below that, I'm game for the injury prevention training all day long. The types of movements needed to surf are also crucial to longevity and quality of life (and I may or may not be a tad long in the tooth these days). Prior to today I've not jumped over to your site as I never considered myself on a surfing progression (hello landlocked lubber!) but I"m going to purchase the ultimate surf fitness program and start incorporating the program today. Really, truly appreciate you sharing your craft with us. Cheers
Hi kale love the channel
Vid idea:What to do if you’ve lost the funk in your surfing I used to be surfing really well but then didn’t surf for a couple months and now I’m struggling with my pop up and confidence please help!!!!!!!
Hey kale, I have a 7"2 47 litre board and have had it for 4 years now. I surf consistently every summer and can turn and genreste speed. I was wandering what board you would recommend?. BTW I love your videos, keep it up 🤙
Hi...ankle movement and the stretching to get that angle is called = "Dorsiflexion". I say this as I believe my own has led to "planter fasciitis". Ankle mobility (or lack of it) can lead to other issues above the ankle...namely hips and glute area.
Just sayin.
Cheers.
Great advice! Thank you
Thanks Kale good stuff as usual
Glad you enjoyed it :)
I enjoyed this video. Thank you
Great stuff man, I have a long way to go.
I don’t think you should be trying to isolate the back extensors without the glutes firing. The posterior chain needs to work together. Isolate the extensors and you’re going to get strength without mobility and, eventually, spasms, muscular gripping etc.
Great class guys love from Pakistan 🏄♂️🤙🏼. I'm watching you always.
Shot Kale that was fkn helpful bro 👋🏽 Just started back after 20 years off a Board 😂
Very helpful!
Number 1 I will never pass 😂 My right ankle is fused after a severe sprain and extra bone growth across my talus bone. Ah damn!
Brilliant 🤩 🤙🏻🏄♂️🙏
Awesome bro 😎
Personally, I just feel called out. Time to hit the gym and pool and just wait for next year.
Hi guys, great video!!!
What exercise would be effective for ankle motion?
You can find lots of videos on RUclips but you can better your ROM until a certain point, we all haver structural limitation. My ankle ROM is not big, and it's not that I'm not a trained guy (I'm a former athlete and Personal Trainer with post graduation in Therapeutic training), it's just my structure. Due to that I had to get stronger in other muscles to compensate and you also need to adapt your surfing/skating to your structure. If you try to copy someone with a huge ankle ROM you wont' be able.
@@matthiasbernardo2621 thanks for the clarification.
In my case I have thicker bones, I have tried to step half foot away from wall and my heel has a few millimetres gap under.
I have started surfing relatively late as my country of origin doesn’t have surfing.
I am working at the moment on the right posture to achieve a decent bottom turn and so on.
Realised how important is mobility in surfing.
Luckily there are ppl like you guys out there to explain those things in detail.
Thanks
ok love but you live in surfing mecca and go all the way to Nicaragua to surf beachbreak boom?
Liking your videos mate, a suggestion: put a positive twist on your titles. How about 5 signs you ARE fit enough?
Really interesting video
I'll have to check this out more. I am an advanced surfer, but I'm soon to be 54, and I have all but stopped surfing because of lower back injury, neck injury and tendinitis in both shoulders. I have really been wanted to start surfing again. I wonder of this course addresses these things? I have some upper neck issues and lumbar especially that wreak havoc...the shoulders are manageable!
Ok but what do you do if you fail any of these tests?
Go surf, unless you’re injured
Te respondo en español porq es más fácil para mí. Vos traducilo:
- Para el primero tenés que elongar los músculos gemelos (eso permite ganar rango de movilidad en el tobillo).
- Para el segundo tenés que elongar los abdominales y reforzar la musculatura de los espinales.
- Para el tercero tenés que elongar los músculos del cuello como muestra en el minuto 4:14. Es importante sostener el hombro que tiende a moverse (para que no se mueva) y mantener el torso en general quieto (que sólo gire o se incline la cabeza). Cualquier elongación de cuello hacerla más suave y con delicadeza que el resto de los músculos.
- Para el cuarto tenes que trabajar la elongación de las distintas porciones musculares del hombro: porción frontal, lateral y posterior. (Buscá ejercicios de elongación de hombro según la porción a trabajar).
- Para el quinto tenés que hacer lo mismo que en el segundo pero haciendo más hincapié en la RESISTENCIA de los musculos espinales (no tanto hincapié en el nivel de musculatura de los mismos). Para poder soportar la posición de cabeza erguida y espalda curvada que sostenemos cuando remamos y demás. Te explica ejercicios en el video.
Eso es todo, cualquier consulta decime. 🤙🏽🇦🇷
I been following Kale for some time already, Check on his channel “Ultimate mobility routine” there’s really nice videos on exercises everywhere, try to do constant mobility exercises every day will improve your surf. 🤙
Train :)
Learn to use brain/think first
So if you have scoliosis you can not surf ?
3mins done! Yewww
Hogwash! If you can get up on your feet, then you're good.
My neck sounds like rice krispies in milk when i rotate my neck around???
🥣
Anyone can surf mate.
Simply not true