SINGLE vs DUAL PC STREAMING SETUPS | Pros and Cons
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2020
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NOTI GANG! Hope I answered some questions out there as to why the pro's stream on dual PC's. More vids on the way! Stay awesome everyone....and WASH YO HANDS!!!
AIR BEAR have you reviewed KontrolFreeks yet?
You should, they actually work in my experience
I'm thinking about buying a pc soon for gaming and I wanted know if there are in good online sites for pre built pcs?
Folicc NZXT the wave
Can you help me get the best quality possible for my stream? I have a i9 10900k, 2080ti, 32gb 3600ghz cl16 Ram .
You deserve way more subs and credits . You know so much more knowledge then everyone else. Its beyond unbelievable.
Goals: Have a Pc way too powerful so that your gaming isn't affected when streaming!
If you right click OBS and run as administrator. That solves the gpu load issues. This is a not so well known solution but It completely solved the frame rate capping issue. A duel pc stream will sit net better frame rate over single pc but that's why most professional streamers use single pc. Hes slightly out of date here. I'm not trying to be rude but help inform fellow pc nerds.
@@puertadlm163 especially with the RTX encoding but I slightly disagree, even if you're not dropping frames in-game by a lot, you still get input delay and it only gets a lot worse if using high tier transitions, overlays, and other scenes that strain the pc it's mostly for people who want to have really high-quality streams without sacrificing performance
@@puertadlm163 should i launch my game first and discord and spotify before launching slobs
Puerta DLM can you help me figure out why my pc won’t stream good quality? It should be a beast but it’s not showing that on stream. I9 10900k with a 2080 ti and 32gb of 3600 cl16 ram
@@jetlifemonroe7720 You might not have enough cores so its heavily putting stress on your CPU. AMD CPU's typically have more cores and give much better multi-core performance than Intel. Something like the 16 core 32 thread 3950x would do alot better. However maybe you should check your internet speed. What is the resolution that you are trying to stream at also? Make sure that Windows is up to date and you have the latest Nvidia driver.
"Had to cap at 130 FPS." Oh no.
It doesnt feel like 130 when your streaming shit feels like 50
@@sasuke20989 meanwhile, living off 30 fps using Intel graphics because the gpu died for what ever reason. "oh, this is fine. doing better than i expected"
Me who averages 60-110 in valorant
Thank you I just decided to get 2 pcs but you did break down the pros and cons for both of them so thx 🙏🏽
Air Bear! Another amazing video really appreciate your reviews are super helpful and informative!
If you right click OBS and run as administrator. That solves the gpu load issues. This is a not so well known solution but It completely solved the frame rate capping issue. A duel pc stream will sit net better frame rate over single pc but that's why most professional streamers use single pc. Hes slightly out of date here. I'm not trying to be rude but help inform fellow pc nerds.
Just a heads up, I was already following u on twitch but I tried the link in description and got an error, maybe it's just me but wanted to let u know
I'm interested to know how you run/setup the audio side of things for your stream. Alerts, music, mic, discord, ect.
What monitors are you using? and what do you think of ASUS TUF Gaming VG279QM
Really Really Appreciate this video as I am looking to build my second PC cause Gaming,streaming while record all on one is a little tough at time. My specs are Ryzen 7 3700x, RTX 2070 super, 32G ram, MSI x570 A-PRO MB.
Interesting video, covered alot of great points. Your main (gaming) pc is more than capable to stream with NVENC at 1080/60 with the same quality as the dual pc. Twitch limits bitrate, even if you are pushing above the advertised limit of 6k bitrate, 6megs is STILL not enough for FPS/fast paced gameplay on twitch, YT allows more (thank god!) Looking forward to watching more of your content, interested in seeing how you setup your rigs. Ive toyed around with Single and Dual PC streams, audio comes complicated in some scenarios, but with my running a 3900x, 32gb ram and a 2060super, a a 15fps frame drop on single pc streaming is a no-brainer for me.... and 30 series cards, are even more of a reason to single pc stream. Look up AlphaGaming/Harris Hellers videos, hes another creator dropping down to a single pc.
Great work on the vid!
great video first of all. bud i do have a question i have a gaming PC with a i9 9900k gaming PC and use my older Gaming PC i7 4790k with a msi 1070 video card my question is do i use the Nvida NVENCH,264 (new) in my Stream PC or the X264 and what are the best settings in obs for a i7 4790k for just a streaming PC thanks ones again for the great video and advice
Have a question can I make a 2nd pc for streaming and I was wondering if I can use a ryzen 5 2400g for my cpu?
Would a mac mini with 6 cores and 32gb ram but no dedicated gpu enough for console streaming?
What internet upload speed do you need to stream 1080 at 60fps?
Okay so my build has a gtx 1660 super and 3200 hz ram, but if the issue is your graphics card is double timing cant you overclock your graphics card to be able to still have good stream quality with one pc streaming?
Any idea when you might be producing the follow up video for this? I guess I'm mainly interested in the single set up until I can pull some resources together, but would love to see the setup of both. Lot of great information here and enjoyed the video. I subscribed and look forward to watching more. Thank you!
half the people that are watching this can’t afford anything your talking about
Probably more than half lol xD
on point
Eh. I dunno lool
I can afford it lulz
😂😂😂
My single Stream PC is working out great 3060ti and Ryzen 5 5600x, pushing 100+FPS on Warzone and 80+ on EFT at 1440p.
Can someone tell me if I can use my hd60 to dual pc stream (I've heard you can but I want to get a definite answer)
So to the point. If we decide to have 2 pc one for gaming and one for streaming.. the streaming pc will stream via graphics card and not via CPU? Could be for example GTX 1070 and Intel 8700k or 3600 Ryzen ? Or needs to be like i5 9600 and RTX 2070 SUPER to stream with RTX via nvec ?
How do you hesr your alerts and game from both pcs?
Hello, this was helpful. Thanks
where did you get that multi-mount for your monitors and mouse?
Video helped a lot 💯
Helpful, thanks
Another BANGER! Hit it square on the head my guy. 2 pc is the future but hell yeah 1 monster pc can do ya just fine. Nice setup btw, i see you!
If you right click OBS and run as administrator. That solves the gpu load issues. This is a not so well known solution but It completely solved the frame rate capping issue. A duel pc stream will sit net better frame rate over single pc but that's why most professional streamers use single pc. Hes slightly out of date here. I'm not trying to be rude but help inform fellow pc nerds.
Yeah man if you run as administrator it will help with some frame rate issues and give you that little boost. Lots of ppl know that, but still if you are serious about streaming you want the best.
A 2 pc setup will soon actually become a thing of the past
Sir one question where do we use pci capture card on gaming pc or streaming ps. As we have to use capture card for capturing display right to steam monitor.
Good video explaining stuff.
you're recommending i get a 2080 just to stream on single pc. ok. so how am i streaming 1080p 60fps while getting 100-120fps with ray tracing on in warzone with an i5-9400f and rtx 2060?
plus doesn't nvenc take all the encoding strain off your gpu and cpu?
Arib Rahman yes this guys is kinda dumb
Wait can you please teach me how? I think I’m doing something wrong. I’m on a 2070 and I can’t even stream world of Warcraft in obs while playing ...
@@GoshfatherTV you have to use nvenc, advance option on obs
AlexanĐer Śpm that’s it? Just NVENC?
very helpful man
Ok I'm confused. Why do we need a 2080s or a 2080ti if the nvenc encoders in the rtx gpus are for streamers?
I’m using a ryzen 3 for streaming but I stream off my Xbox when I try to play games on my pc and stream at the same time it gets to 100 percent cpu usage
Can my laptop with i7 9850h and 1660ti be used as the streaming pc
Main gaming rig spec
nzxt h1
ryzen5 3600x
msi 2070 super
16 3200hz corsair ram
2tb nmve boot drive/ most played games
1tb ssd for additional games
I have 650$ what is a prebuilt you would recommend main games I want to play are cs go leaugue over watch possibly some twitch streaming
Nice PC, mines very similar in specs but dude..... dude cmon man.... get rid of that ketchup and mustard 24 pin power connector to your motherboard lol. Nice PC though that that shits gots to go. Much Love keep it rolling brother
If you right click OBS and run as administrator. That solves the gpu load issues. This is a not so well known solution but It completely solved the frame rate capping issue. A duel pc stream will sit net better frame rate over single pc but that's why most professional streamers use single pc. Hes slightly out of date here. I'm not trying to be rude but help inform fellow pc nerds.
why not use a program like synergy or something like that to share youre mouse and keyboard between the pc's?
I have a 2 PC setup, but need some help
PC1:
i7 5820k
Vega 64
PC2:
i7 6700k
1070 ti
Monitor 1: 3440x1440p 75hz
Monitor 2: 1080p 120hz
No capture card, never used NDI.
I don't know really where to start because of the different resolutions and hz.
Any advice or opinions welcome
Great video there are not a lot of videos explaining you need a expensive pc for streaming or two pc one being a cheap for obs and whatever enchantments for broadcasting the stream and then the gaming pc which has to handle ultra graphics and high fps. In the long run to look like the pros its going to cost you either way.
Oh don't forget the internet upload is important.
5:07 the setup summarized for the dual PC setup. The gaming monitor is cloned and sent through HDMI to a capture card. The captured video runs the HDMI video feed on the 2nd PC and streams to twitch
But if your second pc's monitor must match (example: dont use a 1440p 240hx monitor on your main pc and clone to ur stream pc with a 4k 60hz monitor)
I have a 2080Ti Fe, i9-9900k, 32GB 3200 RAM, 1000W PSU and a Kraken AIO cooler. I stream+game on the one PC and I don't get much less FPS playing Warzone when I'm off and on stream. I have so many people telling me I need a 2 PC setup even with these specs. What are your thoughts @airbear?
What resolution and frame rate do you stream at?
Very helpful! I have to run single PC due to space (living in Japan). I also run my sons PC through a capture card into my PC and we stream splitscreen. My CPU is a Ryzen 2700x, what vid card would you suggest? We stream at 720 60fps, and my monitor is 144hz. Help/suggestions from anyone would be great.Thinking 2070super, but now not sure.
The capture card I have would limit my fps on my game machine so I’m single pc streaming right now. I have mid-high tier machine but still have issues when running titles with higher recommended specs. The game will be running great on my end but the output suffers. Currently looking on how to send some of the power from the game and to the stream. I know their is a way to balance this.
Do you use X264 or NVENC on your streaming PC?
So the requirements for gaming are lower than for streaming right? I mean, you can run most games with many different settings that will allow you to fine tune the best detail you can get with any set up. But for streaming you NEED the power to overclock and a graphics card to run the content, camera, overlays, transitions, etc.
I have a new AMD 8-core Ryzen with integrated graphics and an i7 4-core with a GTX1060. On which computer should I stream?
You have that backwards, you want the power for the gaming PC, the streaming PC can be pretty much anything.
What is the best ps4 controller for Action games? I'm still looking...
Just look in his channel he's always chosen battle beaver customs over all of the brands even astro c40 and scuf.
Would a 3080 ti and i9 12900KF be good? (with a triple monitor setup)
So let me just get this straight. It's best to max out your gaming PC hardware specs in which you're running your game, Discord, and Twitch chat on. Whereas with the streaming PC you really just need the minimum hardware specs for it to still run at a high level. Is this correct?
pretty much just need the stream PC to run OBS. Everything else should be up to the gaming PC I figure
I have a 3060ti & ryzen 5900x and still having issues trying to record with obs please help it seems like the only thing that works is shadowplay 😪😪
I have a single PC with i7 8700 and GTX 1080 I stream with while playing.
I never had any trouble until trying to play Borderlands 3. But, there have been a lot of complaints since that game launched because of bad optimization. That game alone heats up my processor and GPU at 60 fps cap more than other games I've played with unlimited fps, while streaming them too.
Razar.
Headhunterz got into the pc game
Gave like #667 - you’re welcome. Very helpful, I’m going with single PC with mostly console streaming - but I do want the option to share PC games too. So I’m gonna build BIG. Wish me luck! 😬
Could an alienware r11 handle single pc streams?
How are you so underrated?!
Right!
Thanks for the kind words brother! Means so much. I'm trying to keep differentiating my content and improve quality with each step. Stay up! 👊
Facts bro i love this comment bro good to see other ppl see what i see in u bro.. keep going ❤
@@AirBearGaming thanks for the info.do you think i5 4690k for my streaming pc(2nd pc) is good enough?.i oc'd to 4.5ghz
Airbear. Make a collab with Alpha Gaming
i have a i5 9600k cpu and gtx 1660 ti gpu wit 16gb of ram and get 240 fps in fortnite so prty much i cant stream and get 240 fps right
I didn’t even know people used dual pc setups, I’m using a 2060 Gigabytes GPU with triple fans. Also it’s a mini ITX build InWin A1 Case with lots of RGB
If you right click OBS and run as administrator. That solves the gpu load issues. This is a not so well known solution but It completely solved the frame rate capping issue. A duel pc stream will sit net better frame rate over single pc but that's why most professional streamers use single pc. Hes slightly out of date here. I'm not trying to be rude but help inform fellow pc nerds.
Luv u air bear
ive just got a 2 pc set up, i play warzone mainly and really struggle with sound. I've got the astro a50 and my settings were fine on a 1 pc set up.
how do you have your audio settings ?
Watch tfues old setup. He runs dual pc and he uses a sound mixing board
After watching this video plus others that are creditable.... I think a single [BEEFY] computer is less of a hassle and less frustrating to set up. The con is it's $2K but the pro is that it's simple to run and set up.
If i would like to build streaming PC would uou recommend ryzen 5 2600 or 1600 af? Or maybe something else?
1600AF is really hard to find in stock right now
are u running 16gb of ram??
Ok. I tried using streamlabs obs on a single pc. My pc isn’t top teir but my frames don’t drop in game but my stream suffers. Game capture doesn’t work properly and If I do only display capture it gets pixelated if too many things are happening in game. I am not running multi monitors either. So in this situation should I upgrade my current pc or get a streaming pc? I’m personally happy with my current one for games but which would be cheeper and just a better idea to do?
ruclips.net/video/3K21MkdLMAE/видео.html this helped me alot, unlike this guy says, you truly do not need the best of the best, my 1070ti runs all games well over 60 fps (most of the time around 100+) with a stream that is still incredibly smooth.
What mouse pad is that?
Alright i need some suggestions.
I currently have:
R5 3600 @4.5ghz
16gb 3600mhz 8x2
RTX 2070super OC
ASUS B450-F Strix rog
750w bronze power supply
1tb m.2 SSD
225gb ssd
2tb hhd
As my main pc.
I also have my first ever pc:
I5 7400F
24 gb 2400mhz 8x3
GTX 1050ti
(Some MSI motherboard)
750w bronze powersupply
225gb SSD
So should i get an elgato caputer card or is my main pc enough? I also havent really ever streamed before but i have a stream deck for every day usage. Thoughts?
Did you end up streaming on your main PC? Building a similar PC so I'd love to know. Thanks!
What's your ideal perfect build in 2020?
And why not ryzen 9 for CPU?
I'm not anywhere near famous lol but I think for streaming big time two 8 core pcs..I have a 9900k for gaming a 3700x for streaming/workloads and it's like the best setup seriously. Would like a 3900x maybe in The future
I have a i5 for my first streaming rig with a 1060 gpu or for my console
which keyboard bro???
Will I be okay with my 13700kf 32g ddr5 5600 and rtx 3060 ?
If i have a good gaaming pc like an i59400f and a 1660ti does my streaming pc need to be just as good or is it okay if i get a not so decent pc to handle my stream
In my old streaming pc I had an old GeForce 710 in there just to get a signal to the screen but I used a Ryzen 7 1700 CPU and that did all the encoding and the stream looked good at 1080 60fps so from my experience, as long as you have a CPU that can handle it and choose that in OBS settings, you’ll be fine so don’t break the bank for something fancy
What do you use so that your camera stays in place? A tripod?
Yes a tripod
Are Warzone streams coming?
I'm back hi👍
Manz said zero gravity
I have an 17-9700k (OC'd to 4.9Ghz) and an RTX 2080 GPU. When streaming I was dropping 25-60% of my frames on the stream due to my CPU maxing out. (yes, I'm encoding with NVENC) The only way I could stream without dropping frames was to drop my 1440p 144fps base canvas to 1080p 144fps, and my stream to 720p30fps. So I'd have to disagree with your recommendations of going lower on the CPU. Unless there's something I'm missing that you could help me with?? Oh, internet upload speed is 750-850mbs. yes, you read that right. so its not my internet either.
I realize you wrote this a while ago but have you tried upping the graphics in game? My brother in law liked to game with "competitive" settings and had some issues. I told him to raise his graphics some as to load up the GPU more, otherwise many games will load up the CPU then divert any excess to GPU meaning you'll see 99% CPU and like 30% GPU usage.
Can I stream with a Ryzen 9 5950x and RTX3080?
So I have a 2080 TI GPU , ryzen 2700x for cpu and 16gb of ram and I’m struggling with streaming with just one pc. Now I’m trying to figure out how to set up a bare minimum streaming PC. From what this video showed me it shows I’m going to have to spend another 1200 on another full PC build in order to get another streaming pc. Over all your talking 3-4 thousand dollars for this..
I've seen people stream on a single PC with 2080 Tis. Try getting a Ryzen 3600 or higher then upgrading RAM if yours is sub-3000 Mhz.
(I know this is an old comment, just replying for others who might find it helpful and also curious what you ended up buying)
@@JakeLYT I ended up buying a Ryzen 5 5600x. I also built a Secondary PC with very minimal Stats for streaming purely. Now I’m in the process of trying to figure out perfect quality for streaming with a HD60Pros.
So I have a 2070 with some kind of ryzen 7 can I run a single pc stream that looks good enough?
Yes, I streamed with a 2060 super and a 9700k for a while, csgo val pubg and the forest and I never noticed a performance issue and the stream looked good just get good obs settings and use nvenc encoder
Thanks
That’s what I’m gonna use when I build my pc with ryzen 7 2700x with 2060 super
Yeah this guys talking way way over kill nobody starting off would need PCs like this I ran streams with a gtx 970 for a while and it felt a little bottlenecked but it ran 1080 60 FPS on most games a 2070 would do it without a sweat
I’m no streaming pro, but I’d say move your main cam a bit closer.
Air : do know what's gonna be so good for back paddles if they customize ps5 controller and put Astro c40 paddles in the back of the ps5 or ps4 controller >>>>
how are you overclocking a 9400f? how is it possible to overclock a non k cpu? and just because that power supply is from apevia does not mean its bad. look at the power specs like how many amps are on the 12v line. and you never mentioned that when streaming a single pc setup to use the new NVENC encorder on the new turing gpus. really missed on some important stuff man.
Hence the mention of a separate setup and software tutorial. Oh and turbo clock speed for the i5 9400f is 4.1ghz...so yup def not 4.6
AIR BEAR aight just would have been nice to see a recommendation for GPUs that had the NVENC encoder
Has this guy never heard of nvenc?
Ever used nvenc with a webcam and other scenes on screen at the same time?
Nope
With your fps drop from games gas to do with graphics card and gaming not graphics card and streaming. The gtx 1660, gtx 1650super, rtx 20-30 series graphics card all use there new dedicated nvenc encoder doesn't matter which one of those cards you use the streaming/encoding performance will all be the same because they all use the same chip. You will get the same streaming performance as a rtx 3090 with the gtx 1650 super. And when using nvencs encoder you might drop around 3-5 fps. And you can encode 3 things at once. Like stream, record and render a video all at once without effecting your graphics card gaming performance because of its dedicated encoder chip.
I5 with an 2080?
was going to say a i5 would not cut it but then i remembered the 9600 is 6 cores 6 threads.
to stream and play you want more than 4 cores no matter what gpu you have.
My friend has a i5 7400, gtx 1080 and 16gb ram and gets worse fps than i do wile streaming the same game at the same settings and i have a i7 5820k gtx 980 16gb ram because i have them extra cores to run the stream both streams at 1080p and play at 1080p.
Yes my pc is old i am planning on getting a 3080ti when there come out and latter in the year get ether a i9 or amd idn atm have not looked yet.
gpu i can slot in an play cpu i would need new mother-bored cpu and cooler so even no im looking at a 3080ti its cheaper and would work better for games than me upgrading cpu 1st.
what about a single pc with 2 gpus?
uh... I think you meant "streaming" in the title. Unless we're planning to REALLY overclock.
Hmm i want to start single pc live streaming my specs are cpu 11900k. Gpu 3080. Ram 64gb top of the line 3 terabytes on 3 solid state drives samsung 980 pro 4.0 And an internal elgato capture card 4k And canon m50 mark II. ? I havent started streaming but waant sure if im good
I just recommend a really good all in one pc.
i tried and all in 1 PC and it just wasn't cuttin' it overtime
@@blakedmc1989RaveHD aye, this was a year ago when even I didn't have a pc, but yea all in one's aren't it. Just wait until like December to even think about a pc, unless prices are better earlier
@@solitudeaero8862 i was able to finish my dedicated streaming PC a few days ago but i basically had alot of spare parts until i got good deals and i got what i needed
I’m starting to build a PC, Will I be able to single PC stream with:
The 10900k assuming it is 10C/20T at 5.1
2080 Ti
32GB 3600 Ram?
Yup. No problem
Btw, amd has better CPU for money. For example, you can get an Ryzen 7 2700x for £180 ( round about) with 8 cores (4.3ghz max). Just bear that in mind
Affan but the 9900k still gets higher FPS than AMDs flagship 3950x
@@ripetika1600 but that's a different price range now. The 9900K give you £500, has 8 cores and 16 threads @5Ghz Max. Yet the Ryzen 9 3900x gives you £420 with 12 cores, 24threads @ 4.6GHz . So in reality, Ryzen is providing more cores, threads at a lower price.🤷♂️
Affan since when was gaming about cores?
what is your discord brotha?
i had my stream setup nicely with all the overlays etc, like he says it Will break things, in my case i blew out a core in my graphics card xD
I have a 3080 with a i9 9900k so i think im good with a single pc for now
is considered noti gang if i just woke up?
Yes sir 😂
Good vid my guy but I can tell you like great clips 😂
I have a
Ryzen 5900x + RTX 3090 ( Gaming pc )
& i5 8500 + rx 580 (streaming pc)
But no viewers
First
aint this the dude from spider man 3?
9:30
Bigboy graphics card.
(*LAUGHS IN 3070/3080 GPU*)
TFW he says bare minimum 1070 or 2070 when my 2080 can’t beat my 1050ti in encoding performance (because it’s the same damn chip).
I have 2 pcs I have a 3k gaming pc and my streaming pc is 1.2k so I think I’m all good
I was impressed with your knowledge, but i cannot forgive you for the condiment wires in your gaming rig :(