I love how Jonny is critiquing the need for a cross-over or big SUV for the 1% case, right after he got done saying how he needs a Lexus GX because he goes to Big Bear and it someday might snow up there when he's there...
Yep. and yet everyone drives a Turbo 4 banger that still gets 13mpg because they drive it fast, negating the reason for the "eco" points of turbocharging. Also championing EVs that start at $60-80k to over $100k where you can still get ICE vehicles for 1/2 that price.
I loved the “learning how to drive manual stories.” I think we all when through this. Most dads don’t have a clue on how to downshift lolol “just let the clutch out nice and slow son” as you hear the revs dragging up lolol
on the question of learning to drive stick: I had wanted to learn since I was like 6. Never had one available to me. Buying my first car, I rented a car one-way and drove 500 miles from Wisconsin to Ohio with my girlfriend, bought an Infiniti G37S coupe manual, watched Your video (@Matt), and basically had to learn or I wasn't getting home that day. Round trip, one day, a thousand miles, 18 hours. The second half was my first time ever touching a clutch pedal, in the first rear wheel drive car and by far the fastest car I've ever driven, with nobody to help me except the smoking tire RUclips video. my girlfriend didn't even have her license, and although she didn't really enjoy the jerking and stalling at first, it's a trip we'll never forget. Wasn't the easiest car to learn on either, kinda a heavy clutch with very little feel and it turns out the dealer kinda fucked me cuz they knew the slave cylinder was going out (which requires dropping the trans to replace) and they knew I was driving the car 500 miles to get home and they had just secretly bled the clutch before I got there and sent me out the door. That car also got me an apprenticeship as a mechanic after a master tech saw me dropping my trans to fix that with no help or training or experience not too long later.
Absolutely, consumer choice fallacy is 10,000% a fallacy, and is basically just a way for companies to privatize profits and publicize losses. AJ has half a point about cars being an easy target, and perhaps an over-exposed target, in the society because it's a group that lacks the political power to defend itself, unlike global shipping, e-commerce, airlines, etc. etc. I do dislike it when car enthusiasts try to exempt themselves from any obligation to be part of the solution though. Push for systemic change, do your individual part as best you can; we're gonna need both approaches.
Hilarious about Matt learning how to drive stick at the 1:50ish mark. I learned the same way being told to shift at 3,000 RPM. I remember, I raced a guy in high school and my buddy was sitting next to me. I peeled out, tore through the gears, and my buddy said, "you ripped through the gears shifting at 3,000 RPM faster than anybody i've seen, but you need to let it rev higher". I was like, wait, what?
15:00 Everyone in the car world: 300k for a GT3 thats 100k over. Ok, thats NEW state of the art Porsche. Now, also the same people: mid-300k for a Singer, thats awesome. Mid 300k for a Chevelle, thats silly. Here's the irony, Chevelle people also think spending 300k on a 40 year old Restomod Porsche is silly. A fully restored or survivor (1 of 15) Hemi Cuda goes for high 6 figures low 7... and the difference in say a mint restored/survivor 964 is what? Both are equally unique in their own world by the people who are enthusiast's in those worlds. Personally: neither a restored or restomodded Chevelle or Porsche is a $300k driving experience. Let alone a new one. You can't fully enjoy them for fear of devaluing them or getting them scratched. Adding to the need for a beater. or a $30k Chevelle thats not Mecum or B-J level of super Saturday "auction"
I feel like one thing Jonny always avoids addressing is that EVs don't sound like anything and they don't have manual transmissions. They're completely missing that HUGE part of driver engagement and he just glosses over them like they're irrelevant.
Internal combustion engines don’t have the steady clopping rhythm of a horse or the organic input of reins and stirrups. They’re completely missing that HUGE part of rider engagement and we just gloss over them like they’re irrelevant.
You have to be kidding? I threw up in my mouth a bit when I heard how he spec'd his car. I could see it if he were coming out of the closet or something. I cannot believe somebody ordered a car in that color on purpose.
Jonny probably won't read the comments, but if he likes Habring², he needs to check out Ochs und Junior. Ludwig Oechslin, the guy who made the Ulysse Nardin Freak, designs his own complications that are super optimized: 9 parts for a perpetual calendar!!! And they also offer super in-depth customization of colors and materials.
Love the podcast and Jonny, keep it up! Regarding AG's letter and new cars being numb, I think the perspective here is mostly for now expensive cars, I think affordable are getting numb and less representative, there's good ones but less. As Zack mentioned, its a lot about the market forces but still sad for most people who can't attain them.
Don't sleep on Orient. Any of the new divers (Ray, Mako, Kamasu, Kanno) all have hacking and handwinding, 200m. Bracelets aren't the best but not bad. Plenty of aftermarket mods. Bambinos are a great dress watch option for under $200.
Dumping fuel is usually only done during an emergency, it’s not an uncommon procedure during a major inflight systems malfunction. The idea is to lose mass before trying to land
Yikes man! That Rivian in yellow with the green interior is better than a boxier spider in that awful frozen berry with red interior. Good luck selling that thing one day.
Used Carvana to sell old Audi Q5. I can confirm they came, Dropped a check, put key in a dealership window lockbox and threw up the peace sign as they sped off into the distance. Super easy, highly recommended
Lieberman anwesering what year E39 is good? With 'a mach-e is just as fast at nine tenths' while the dude clearly isn't looking for anything faster is the perfect Lieberman stereotype
I think Matt (and to a greater degree, Jonny) have their hearts in the right place on Climate Change, they both are wildly undereducated on what they just call "pollution" as well as the role of the individual and industries that pollute more. In fact, there is an industry that pollutes more than all the cars, ships, and plane transport in the world, yet they won't even mention it, wither becasue they don't know how bad that industry is or they're too emotionally invested in its participation. And unlike cars or transport or energy, which will take decades and trillions of dollars to turn around, most people could change tomorrow. This is a recurring flaw for both buys.
@@alexsmith32012 Not entirely. Going forward, I don't see new ICE cars being built (except MAYBE a few by low volume supercar makers, probably mainly for the Middle East market). Fuel (synthetic or otherwise) will be far too expensive for most people to use for their daily drivers. Once the charging network, powergrid, and battery/power storage each get a few more generations of iteration, it would be a no-brainer anyway for most people to go fully electric. But synthetic fuel might work well as an option to keep sports/classic cars running on the weekends. One past analogy that I've heard Farah use is that ICE cars will be like horses - something that used to be very common, but is now an expensive hobby for the rich.
@@chadbarbaro Animal agriculture - mostly for food. More GhG produced by that industry than all the cars, ships, planes, trains in the world combined. A shift towards a more plant-based diet is imperative if we any hope of even making a dent in Climate Change; so says the UN and every major study about CC done in the last 15 years. Beyond just GhG, a plant-based diet uses a fraction of the land, water, and chemicals helping to mitigate issues such as ocean deadzones, droughts, antibiotic resistance, and issues with soil management. Unlike things like installing solar panels, buying an EV, or voting for a politician who is beholden to the largest donors, individuals have the power to act on that issue right now. The more you learn, the more it only makes sense for a ton of different reasons.
@@LysergikFuneral a plant-based diet doesn’t mitigate ocean deadzones, droughts, or soil management issues, that is entirely dependent on the growing system and methods. Also the actual main problem (as indicated by all those major studies you’ve mentioned) is over-consumption of material goods, I’m doubting you’ve actually read any of those studies. Ending CAFO’s would put a massive dent in climate change, however, just going “plant-based” is simply a talking point for people who haven’t actually studied this in a formal education setting. I’ve had this discussion in many a food systems engineering class, so it’s funny to see it in a RUclips comment.
Get excited for an ev centric podcast that can't be summarized by "tree huggers with a mic" or "Tesla cultists with a mic" Turns out it's just a celebrity interview show :(
@@jonnylieberman I've watched everything you have done since the Carlos Lago days, I even read some of your Autoblog stuff. But electric cars are the future and they render cars into mearly a fashion statement. A P-51 mustang is cooler than a F-22. Yeah the F22 is faster and better, much like the electric but....meh. An electric is the new LS Swap and its going to be boring. 1/3 of the car is basically identical in every car. You already know in 10 years you will write or say that piston power provided uniqueness, sound and vibration, a character that electric motors will never replace. 0-100 mph in .02 seconds still won't make up for the lack of character.
@@cromBumny the P-51 is undeniably iconic, but the insane acrobatics an F 22 can pull off paired with its sleek design… It may be heresy to say, but I think the Raptor is the cooler plane. But I fully admit I don’t put much of a premium on historical machines in general, so I have my bias. In the same way that I tend to be more interested in what’s next for human mobility rather than what we already have..
@@TerryTerius 1)there isn't enough rare earth minerals in Chyna and Africa to power all the replacement cars. 2) to replace all the gas powered cars with electric is probably not as enviromentally friendly as simply restoring a gas powered car. 3) the amount of new carbon that has to be created in creation of a new car probably offsets most of the gain considering the amount of the bits and pieces that have to be shipped all.iver the globe. There are other concerns of vast more importance.
I learned to drive a stick in a 1976 Ford tow truck. I was 16 working my first job at a Mobil service station. I would run for parts. 1st was a granny gear. The gear stick was as long as my leg. Clutch like pushing a brick through concrete.
the jet fuel that gets dumped evaporates in the atmosphere before it hits the ground. its not like barrels of Jet A just flood down from the heavens lmao
I crashed my wife’s 2012 Chevy Sonic I was fixing up as a daily and insurance is paying us more than what she paid for the car 6 years and 80k miles ago.
I don't agree that consumer preference is the reason for the lack of cheap sporty cars. How do we know that the lack of demand is not due to the regulations making everything so sanitized and bland? Think of what kind if awesome machines could be made in the regulatory environment of 1990, with today's technology. I think those cars would be hugely popular, because they would be awesome. Hood height and side impact regulations have killed the sports car.
I love Jonny but you guys jump from "Affordable fun" to 911/Ferrari SO quickly. You gotta admit that the once super specialized semi-affordable stuff is pretty much gone. The new BRZ is great sure, but it's still trying to do a LOT. The days of sacraficing stuff in the name of enthusiasts is over. We'll never get another S2k, EVO, Homologation era STI, etc. Gone are the days where the budget sliders could be turned WAY down on stuff like infotainment in the name of more exotic chassis or engine stuff. I agree that something like the CIVIC SI is WAY better than it use to be, probably better than almost any of the affordable sporting options from the 90's - 00's but Imagine if the same "settings" from a budget perspective were put in place on something modern. The closest thing I can think of is the GR Yaris but that's not available here in the US. The TypeR could likely be EVEN MORE amazing if they had sacrificed some of its creature comforts for performance.
Automakers are legally prohibited from omitting the HVAC and reverse cameras in the US, so that doesn't help. Still, I think the track Toyota has chosen to offer a car with niceties to sell at a reasonable price and reasonable starting performance is the right one, because the enthusiasts will have the savings to spend on performance mods. If we're being 100% honest, the only purpose those factory stripper homoligation specials would serve in 2022 is being a literal investment vehicle.
The fan question is easily answered with an opposite argument: enthusiast have themselves allowed cars to be unavailable to up coming young buyers and company’s have bottlenecked their policy for older rich buttholes
Funny that matts amped about his 4.5 liter flat six ~565 hp 438 tq in a regeared boxster spyder BUT. Matt continually says todays cars are too powerful......glad matts going for a new sports
Please god someone find away to mass produce carbon neutral synthetic fuel it will save the cars we love solve the emissions from flights and ship that are a long way off going electric. Making synthetic fuel can remove carbon and emit the same or less carbon going out. Lithium has to be mined for batteries and transported on truck it isnt as environment friendly as they make out.
Good show but Johnny just comes off as arrogant. The throttle house straight pipes comment seemed so dismissive of people In his industry who aren't him
"Lots of cars have rumbly V8s.."...yeah, lots of cars have air-cooled lawn mower engines in the back too, and those aren't worth a 2500sq ft house with 3 acres either. Nobody is buying a $300k Chevelle LS6 (which is a top 3 iconic musclecar) or a million dollar 71 Cuda for a "driving experience." It's to go into a collection and serve as an asset class for the market crash that's coming. Same thing happened in 2008 for a reason.
When will people start talking about the environmental impact of batteries l. The mining, manufacturing, transportation disposal of said batteries. And the manufacturing of the electricity to power said cars. Sure if your grid is powered by solar, wind, nuclear God bless but the majority of the world's electricity isn't green.
Jonny Lieberman is always a good listen but he should stay well clear of anything related to history or economics! His justification as to why Switzerland has more money than Austria: Switzerland makes a million Rolex watches a year)))
There's a few collecting cars podcasts from the early Covid days and it sucks the time they took to discuss it which took away from the time they could've talked about something actually interesting.
@@jonnylieberman LOL. I'm genuinely curious... if you're vaccinated/boosted, in a fairly safe age group, why the "Oh Goddddd" comment on catching the covid? It seems you guys are REALLY paranoid; STILL, at this date. Do you realize the hill climb is approx. 8000x more dangerous... (+/- .5%)
And why don't you ever mention the fact of the loss of engine noise in the EV? Maybe you have in the past and I missed it. That is my major drawback. I totally get EV in a business vehicle, or an ultra luxury cruiser, economy style basic transport... but my whole life I've read about a specific Porsche sound and a wicked Ferrari sound, Lamborghini, etc. It was not 100% of the allure, but I'd argue maybe somewhere around 25-30% of what makes it sooo.. special. Then we talk about how numbers aren't everything, since a 190 hp Alpha may excite more than a new age 250 hp faster car but ultimately a snooze fest. But then the electric car becomes solely a numbers game. I remember when ICE cars were getting over 500 hp and people saying how it was just too much...you can't even remotely come close to exploiting it all and it's just too much. But Tesla 1000 hp woohoo! And some cars now with turbo charging are faster but there are complaints of the ICE engine being muted and not sounding like the old 6.2 etc and there's a longing for that sound. The Boxster/Cayman went 4 cylinder and everyone hated the sound. Faster, yes. Better....???? Then electric takes away all sound. I'm just not on board, in terms of sports cars. Thank goodness we'll always have the used market but it really is insane right now what things are going for. Enthusiasts are freaking out, apparently. I think it's time to freak out all over a GT3. No, no wait, turns out I'm no relation to the Walton's.
I love that you call out Jonny for the fact that they never actually talk about the future of cars in his podcast.
Thanks for keeping the ads at the front. Appreciate the free content!
I love how Jonny is critiquing the need for a cross-over or big SUV for the 1% case, right after he got done saying how he needs a Lexus GX because he goes to Big Bear and it someday might snow up there when he's there...
That is exactly what makes the Jonny podcasts so hilarious to look forward to.
A Golf R with a ski box on the roof would be more than fine for that, but nah, gotta get a huge boat, dood
Listen again. I said I want my own off-roader.
@@jonnylieberman how much does Ferrari pay you to not say bad things about them jk I love you
Yep. and yet everyone drives a Turbo 4 banger that still gets 13mpg because they drive it fast, negating the reason for the "eco" points of turbocharging. Also championing EVs that start at $60-80k to over $100k where you can still get ICE vehicles for 1/2 that price.
Of course Jonny would call an LS6 Chevelle a mom's car
Guys. Guys. Jonny knows REALLY REALLY rich people. If you couldn’t tell by the fact that he mentions that every five seconds
Been killing it on the guests lately, keep it up! Congrats on the gt4
I loved the “learning how to drive manual stories.” I think we all when through this. Most dads don’t have a clue on how to downshift lolol “just let the clutch out nice and slow son” as you hear the revs dragging up lolol
on the question of learning to drive stick: I had wanted to learn since I was like 6. Never had one available to me. Buying my first car, I rented a car one-way and drove 500 miles from Wisconsin to Ohio with my girlfriend, bought an Infiniti G37S coupe manual, watched Your video (@Matt), and basically had to learn or I wasn't getting home that day. Round trip, one day, a thousand miles, 18 hours. The second half was my first time ever touching a clutch pedal, in the first rear wheel drive car and by far the fastest car I've ever driven, with nobody to help me except the smoking tire RUclips video. my girlfriend didn't even have her license, and although she didn't really enjoy the jerking and stalling at first, it's a trip we'll never forget. Wasn't the easiest car to learn on either, kinda a heavy clutch with very little feel and it turns out the dealer kinda fucked me cuz they knew the slave cylinder was going out (which requires dropping the trans to replace) and they knew I was driving the car 500 miles to get home and they had just secretly bled the clutch before I got there and sent me out the door. That car also got me an apprenticeship as a mechanic after a master tech saw me dropping my trans to fix that with no help or training or experience not too long later.
1:11:45… matt saying the quiet bit out loud. Love ya dude.
so much truth in his statement
Absolutely, consumer choice fallacy is 10,000% a fallacy, and is basically just a way for companies to privatize profits and publicize losses. AJ has half a point about cars being an easy target, and perhaps an over-exposed target, in the society because it's a group that lacks the political power to defend itself, unlike global shipping, e-commerce, airlines, etc. etc. I do dislike it when car enthusiasts try to exempt themselves from any obligation to be part of the solution though. Push for systemic change, do your individual part as best you can; we're gonna need both approaches.
Keep it up with the awesome guests! Absolutely loving this podcast since starting it last month.
Hilarious about Matt learning how to drive stick at the 1:50ish mark. I learned the same way being told to shift at 3,000 RPM. I remember, I raced a guy in high school and my buddy was sitting next to me. I peeled out, tore through the gears, and my buddy said, "you ripped through the gears shifting at 3,000 RPM faster than anybody i've seen, but you need to let it rev higher". I was like, wait, what?
I like Johnny but man does he make some stupid statements. I wish Spike and Zuckerman were here to check him.
Spike says even dumber things in my opinion. Long live Zuckerman though!
That Porsche is going to be a thing of beauty.
Johnny acts like it’s not 700 bucks a month to lease a car for 40 grand the way he keeps talking about leasing 💀
It's easier to write off lease payments when using it as a "business vehicle"
15:00 Everyone in the car world: 300k for a GT3 thats 100k over. Ok, thats NEW state of the art Porsche. Now, also the same people: mid-300k for a Singer, thats awesome. Mid 300k for a Chevelle, thats silly. Here's the irony, Chevelle people also think spending 300k on a 40 year old Restomod Porsche is silly. A fully restored or survivor (1 of 15) Hemi Cuda goes for high 6 figures low 7... and the difference in say a mint restored/survivor 964 is what? Both are equally unique in their own world by the people who are enthusiast's in those worlds.
Personally: neither a restored or restomodded Chevelle or Porsche is a $300k driving experience. Let alone a new one. You can't fully enjoy them for fear of devaluing them or getting them scratched. Adding to the need for a beater. or a $30k Chevelle thats not Mecum or B-J level of super Saturday "auction"
The trolls are going to freak out at another Throttle House and Straight Pipes mixup! Lmao
I’m not afraid to admit it: all Canadians look the same to me.
Is there really a difference?
I cannot wait to commute with a manual again. Soon. Very soon!
I love the Autobahn cap on Matt. Nice touch.
DEMAN BOXTER SPYDER WITH SHORTENED GEARS HOLY SHIT
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I feel like one thing Jonny always avoids addressing is that EVs don't sound like anything and they don't have manual transmissions. They're completely missing that HUGE part of driver engagement and he just glosses over them like they're irrelevant.
Internal combustion engines don’t have the steady clopping rhythm of a horse or the organic input of reins and stirrups. They’re completely missing that HUGE part of rider engagement and we just gloss over them like they’re irrelevant.
@@scottprewitt4712 pretty fucking stupid comparison considering horses are conscious beings
Matt fell in love with cassis lol. The frozen berry is as close as they have. Can’t blame him what a special and underrated color scheme
I can't wait to see it. Going to be an amazing spec.
You have to be kidding? I threw up in my mouth a bit when I heard how he spec'd his car. I could see it if he were coming out of the closet or something. I cannot believe somebody ordered a car in that color on purpose.
Love when Jonny is on and congrats on the new car
Johnny got the most rare color and interior combo on the Rivian. Both are discontinued now.
You know it's a good guest when the adds are almost 10min
Jonny probably won't read the comments, but if he likes Habring², he needs to check out Ochs und Junior. Ludwig Oechslin, the guy who made the Ulysse Nardin Freak, designs his own complications that are super optimized: 9 parts for a perpetual calendar!!! And they also offer super in-depth customization of colors and materials.
Love the podcast and Jonny, keep it up!
Regarding AG's letter and new cars being numb, I think the perspective here is mostly for now expensive cars, I think affordable are getting numb and less representative, there's good ones but less. As Zack mentioned, its a lot about the market forces but still sad for most people who can't attain them.
If Randy can crash at pikes peak, anyone can. Be careful
Don't sleep on Orient. Any of the new divers (Ray, Mako, Kamasu, Kanno) all have hacking and handwinding, 200m. Bracelets aren't the best but not bad. Plenty of aftermarket mods. Bambinos are a great dress watch option for under $200.
Dumping fuel is usually only done during an emergency, it’s not an uncommon procedure during a major inflight systems malfunction. The idea is to lose mass before trying to land
Yikes man! That Rivian in yellow with the green interior is better than a boxier spider in that awful frozen berry with red interior. Good luck selling that thing one day.
Used Carvana to sell old Audi Q5. I can confirm they came, Dropped a check, put key in a dealership window lockbox and threw up the peace sign as they sped off into the distance.
Super easy, highly recommended
I love the check engine light! 😂
Lieberman anwesering what year E39 is good? With 'a mach-e is just as fast at nine tenths' while the dude clearly isn't looking for anything faster is the perfect Lieberman stereotype
C63 wagon will have 4wd and 450HP 2.0l turbo and 200HP electric motor. Should be a beast.
Good show 👍
I think Matt (and to a greater degree, Jonny) have their hearts in the right place on Climate Change, they both are wildly undereducated on what they just call "pollution" as well as the role of the individual and industries that pollute more. In fact, there is an industry that pollutes more than all the cars, ships, and plane transport in the world, yet they won't even mention it, wither becasue they don't know how bad that industry is or they're too emotionally invested in its participation. And unlike cars or transport or energy, which will take decades and trillions of dollars to turn around, most people could change tomorrow. This is a recurring flaw for both buys.
Do you have any hope for synthetic fuel saving the combustion engine
@@alexsmith32012 Not entirely. Going forward, I don't see new ICE cars being built (except MAYBE a few by low volume supercar makers, probably mainly for the Middle East market). Fuel (synthetic or otherwise) will be far too expensive for most people to use for their daily drivers. Once the charging network, powergrid, and battery/power storage each get a few more generations of iteration, it would be a no-brainer anyway for most people to go fully electric. But synthetic fuel might work well as an option to keep sports/classic cars running on the weekends. One past analogy that I've heard Farah use is that ICE cars will be like horses - something that used to be very common, but is now an expensive hobby for the rich.
And what is that massive pollution caused by?
@@chadbarbaro Animal agriculture - mostly for food. More GhG produced by that industry than all the cars, ships, planes, trains in the world combined. A shift towards a more plant-based diet is imperative if we any hope of even making a dent in Climate Change; so says the UN and every major study about CC done in the last 15 years. Beyond just GhG, a plant-based diet uses a fraction of the land, water, and chemicals helping to mitigate issues such as ocean deadzones, droughts, antibiotic resistance, and issues with soil management. Unlike things like installing solar panels, buying an EV, or voting for a politician who is beholden to the largest donors, individuals have the power to act on that issue right now. The more you learn, the more it only makes sense for a ton of different reasons.
@@LysergikFuneral a plant-based diet doesn’t mitigate ocean deadzones, droughts, or soil management issues, that is entirely dependent on the growing system and methods.
Also the actual main problem (as indicated by all those major studies you’ve mentioned) is over-consumption of material goods, I’m doubting you’ve actually read any of those studies.
Ending CAFO’s would put a massive dent in climate change, however, just going “plant-based” is simply a talking point for people who haven’t actually studied this in a formal education setting. I’ve had this discussion in many a food systems engineering class, so it’s funny to see it in a RUclips comment.
Get excited for an ev centric podcast that can't be summarized by "tree huggers with a mic" or "Tesla cultists with a mic"
Turns out it's just a celebrity interview show
:(
When a minivan can be as fast as a Ferrari, the Ferrari is diminished and enthusiasm will deflate
Keep listening.
@@jonnylieberman I've watched everything you have done since the Carlos Lago days, I even read some of your Autoblog stuff. But electric cars are the future and they render cars into mearly a fashion statement. A P-51 mustang is cooler than a F-22. Yeah the F22 is faster and better, much like the electric but....meh. An electric is the new LS Swap and its going to be boring. 1/3 of the car is basically identical in every car. You already know in 10 years you will write or say that piston power provided uniqueness, sound and vibration, a character that electric motors will never replace. 0-100 mph in .02 seconds still won't make up for the lack of character.
@@cromBumny the P-51 is undeniably iconic, but the insane acrobatics an F 22 can pull off paired with its sleek design… It may be heresy to say, but I think the Raptor is the cooler plane. But I fully admit I don’t put much of a premium on historical machines in general, so I have my bias. In the same way that I tend to be more interested in what’s next for human mobility rather than what we already have..
@@TerryTerius 1)there isn't enough rare earth minerals in Chyna and Africa to power all the replacement cars. 2) to replace all the gas powered cars with electric is probably not as enviromentally friendly as simply restoring a gas powered car. 3) the amount of new carbon that has to be created in creation of a new car probably offsets most of the gain considering the amount of the bits and pieces that have to be shipped all.iver the globe. There are other concerns of vast more importance.
Electric cars bore me..
It's like the new version of "LS SWAP THE WORLD"
Can you guys break up the time bar to reflect the different areas of the conversation?
You’re asking for too much.
@@paulpierce21 😂
Jeez, between dismissing muscle cars and telling me my Fiesta ST is going to break, this is starting out rough for me 😆
if i was given the opportunity to drive pikes peak, i would quit my job
Who the hell is MISHA? I literally heard his name 40 times.
Misha Mansoor - he's been a guest on the podcast a few times.
congrats on the boxster matt
15:55 WTF, JONNY BOY?!?
Wow, my favourite guest next to James Cammisa is back.
For me it's 1. Chris Harris, 2. Cammisa, 3. Lieberman
@@lucioledizerot196 I forgot about little fella, those are definitely top 3, but throttle house was also great.
@@Kocan7 I also enjoyed Spike Feresten from time to time but he can get a little repetitive
I like all the ones mentioned, but I also like Doug Demuro
I learned to drive a stick in a 1976 Ford tow truck. I was 16 working my first job at a Mobil service station. I would run for parts. 1st was a granny gear. The gear stick was as long as my leg. Clutch like pushing a brick through concrete.
Mine would be San Diego to LA on the 101 in a gt500 or amg black series
The GTI is a great car for kids and many hatches are
"Battery weight has to come down." OK, how much range is enough? 250? 400? 500 miles? Once we have a number than battery weight can come down.
when's the bmw m240i video going up? people keep asking because were interested!
991.1 na manuals are going up fast actually
Podcasting GOLD! 🥰🥰
"Two kids and a wife" vs "Two wives and a kid". Lol!
Waaaaaait a minute an ICON bronco is 150 in TYOOL 2022? No way in hell!
Have you heard of Gatik doing fully self driving with no drivers?
4:32 bottom right - looks like Rob Dahm!
For some reason, Matt REALLY looks like Jimmy Kimmel on this podcast (side profile more so).
21:45 Zach haha.
I can hear someone breathing. Maybe jonny
the jet fuel that gets dumped evaporates in the atmosphere before it hits the ground. its not like barrels of Jet A just flood down from the heavens lmao
Can you please mount the camera too something that doesn't shake?
Dont tell the experts how to do their jobs.
50:55 LMAO
That Frozen Berry Metallic is a wild color
I about spit my coffee out. Why, Matt why?!?! It’s a sweet car in such a bad color!
I crashed my wife’s 2012 Chevy Sonic I was fixing up as a daily and insurance is paying us more than what she paid for the car 6 years and 80k miles ago.
Johnny must be pretty hard on cars if modern cars he owned feel worn out and unreliable at 35k miles.
That plus buying low quality cars doesn’t help.
I don't agree that consumer preference is the reason for the lack of cheap sporty cars. How do we know that the lack of demand is not due to the regulations making everything so sanitized and bland? Think of what kind if awesome machines could be made in the regulatory environment of 1990, with today's technology. I think those cars would be hugely popular, because they would be awesome. Hood height and side impact regulations have killed the sports car.
Demand definitely plays a part. All of the enthusiasts who drive 15 year old cars and have been doing that can’t complain.
I would take a 992 GT3 over ANY Lambo you could get for $300 grand lol
I love Jonny but you guys jump from "Affordable fun" to 911/Ferrari SO quickly. You gotta admit that the once super specialized semi-affordable stuff is pretty much gone. The new BRZ is great sure, but it's still trying to do a LOT. The days of sacraficing stuff in the name of enthusiasts is over. We'll never get another S2k, EVO, Homologation era STI, etc. Gone are the days where the budget sliders could be turned WAY down on stuff like infotainment in the name of more exotic chassis or engine stuff. I agree that something like the CIVIC SI is WAY better than it use to be, probably better than almost any of the affordable sporting options from the 90's - 00's but Imagine if the same "settings" from a budget perspective were put in place on something modern. The closest thing I can think of is the GR Yaris but that's not available here in the US. The TypeR could likely be EVEN MORE amazing if they had sacrificed some of its creature comforts for performance.
Automakers are legally prohibited from omitting the HVAC and reverse cameras in the US, so that doesn't help. Still, I think the track Toyota has chosen to offer a car with niceties to sell at a reasonable price and reasonable starting performance is the right one, because the enthusiasts will have the savings to spend on performance mods. If we're being 100% honest, the only purpose those factory stripper homoligation specials would serve in 2022 is being a literal investment vehicle.
The fan question is easily answered with an opposite argument: enthusiast have themselves allowed cars to be unavailable to up coming young buyers and company’s have bottlenecked their policy for older rich buttholes
Grand Seiko
Not real car guys.
Funny that matts amped about his 4.5 liter flat six ~565 hp 438 tq in a regeared boxster spyder BUT. Matt continually says todays cars are too powerful......glad matts going for a new sports
Eyyyy
Still worried about covid wow. The LA bubble is real.
Unless you are in the Ram's stadium. It must be safe there because all the crazy left wing politicians are in there with no masks.
Please god someone find away to mass produce carbon neutral synthetic fuel it will save the cars we love solve the emissions from flights and ship that are a long way off going electric. Making synthetic fuel can remove carbon and emit the same or less carbon going out. Lithium has to be mined for batteries and transported on truck it isnt as environment friendly as they make out.
Yeesh this podcast is running out of guests
Good show but Johnny just comes off as arrogant. The throttle house straight pipes comment seemed so dismissive of people In his industry who aren't him
"Lots of cars have rumbly V8s.."...yeah, lots of cars have air-cooled lawn mower engines in the back too, and those aren't worth a 2500sq ft house with 3 acres either. Nobody is buying a $300k Chevelle LS6 (which is a top 3 iconic musclecar) or a million dollar 71 Cuda for a "driving experience." It's to go into a collection and serve as an asset class for the market crash that's coming. Same thing happened in 2008 for a reason.
When will people start talking about the environmental impact of batteries l. The mining, manufacturing, transportation disposal of said batteries. And the manufacturing of the electricity to power said cars. Sure if your grid is powered by solar, wind, nuclear God bless but the majority of the world's electricity isn't green.
Johnny needs a podcast
He has two
@@ZetaSprinter what are they called
Spike's car radio and inEVitable
Jonny Lieberman is always a good listen but he should stay well clear of anything related to history or economics! His justification as to why Switzerland has more money than Austria: Switzerland makes a million Rolex watches a year)))
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Covid talk is insufferable
There's a few collecting cars podcasts from the early Covid days and it sucks the time they took to discuss it which took away from the time they could've talked about something actually interesting.
It’s a part of the world we live in 🤷🏾♂️
Get vaccinated
@@jonnylieberman LOL. I'm genuinely curious... if you're vaccinated/boosted, in a fairly safe age group, why the "Oh Goddddd" comment on catching the covid? It seems you guys are REALLY paranoid; STILL, at this date. Do you realize the hill climb is approx. 8000x more dangerous... (+/- .5%)
And why don't you ever mention the fact of the loss of engine noise in the EV? Maybe you have in the past and I missed it. That is my major drawback. I totally get EV in a business vehicle, or an ultra luxury cruiser, economy style basic transport... but my whole life I've read about a specific Porsche sound and a wicked Ferrari sound, Lamborghini, etc. It was not 100% of the allure, but I'd argue maybe somewhere around 25-30% of what makes it sooo.. special. Then we talk about how numbers aren't everything, since a 190 hp Alpha may excite more than a new age 250 hp faster car but ultimately a snooze fest. But then the electric car becomes solely a numbers game. I remember when ICE cars were getting over 500 hp and people saying how it was just too much...you can't even remotely come close to exploiting it all and it's just too much. But Tesla 1000 hp woohoo! And some cars now with turbo charging are faster but there are complaints of the ICE engine being muted and not sounding like the old 6.2 etc and there's a longing for that sound. The Boxster/Cayman went 4 cylinder and everyone hated the sound. Faster, yes. Better....???? Then electric takes away all sound. I'm just not on board, in terms of sports cars. Thank goodness we'll always have the used market but it really is insane right now what things are going for. Enthusiasts are freaking out, apparently. I think it's time to freak out all over a GT3. No, no wait, turns out I'm no relation to the Walton's.