interesting as always teacher Stef, I started coding about 8 months ago and it was pretty hard at that time because I didn't know where to start and what to learn. But after a couple of months you get around it. That's were your courses helped me a lot. I saved lots of time. A big thanks by the way. I already started doing some web projects on the side but unfortunately I found myself being an obsessive compulsive in the context of "man I need to learn graphic design and tools like photoshop and illustrator..." It seems to me like a never ending ocean. Any advice teacher Stef? By the way being a freelancer here in austria is really difficult. I don't know about canada but here I have to pay 30% of income for all kind of insurances and 35-50% for ALL kinds of taxes😵. It's crazyyy but still a great country xD
Wow. Heavy taxes down there. But you guys have a better social safety net from what I hear. Pros and cons to all places. Advice: now that you've done my courses (thanks for the kind words,) just go after projects and learn as need. That's why I say that knowing your basics is key, this way learning new stuff as the need comes up, will be easier. The best fighters know many techniques, but typically will only use 1-2 ... and win. Same with coding in a way. I hope that makes sense.
johannes scheitel do you end up paying 30% + 35-50%?? That is 80% loss(50+30,worst case), 65%(30+35,best case)..that's a lot, it does not let you pile up a big sum of money(save for old age) after a decade of work.If you are an employee do you loose less money on taxes and insurance?
Being employed or even unemployed in Austria seems to be more rewarding than freelancing. You have less stress chasing clients and running your own business. The wages aren't that hight but I definetely get more profit out of it and the employer is paying your insurances in that case. However Programmers in Germany are doing much better on the other hand than we do in Austria both in terms of being employed or doing freelance work. But the sad thing is that in many cases unemployed people here in Austria are doing waay better than those who work. I myself know people who are living a cheerful life and even piling up lots of cash. Even though they are the leeches of our country xD. Ofcourse there are people who are stuck in some kind of hardship that life through at them and are forced to be a social case but most of them are just lazy cockraoches. SAD How about you man? Where are you from?
I was in Austria (for 7 days) 3 years ago, i fell in love with this AMAZING city VIENNA, but i did not know how to stay there,i still do not speak German (i am stuck at A2 level in this language, i am learning it slowly). I am currently learning C language in depth, not the basic stuff(what i learn is hard to find online....). i have an electronics Eng. degree(year 2014) with a distinction(6th out of 1000+ graduates of ALL times). Currently,i am stuck,unemployed,i do not do electronics anymore. I need C for embedded stuff,after that, ii will focus on learning c++ ,i am practicing data structures until i master the topic.... and if i can make it i plan to build a system using machine learning, AI, opencv and electronics for the hardware. I will have to learn the HTML stack to promote it online... smells like it is going to take some years of intensive effort( i started out last year). I can't find work so i do not care anymore... i will just attempt to build a sophisticated system... i might need to employ/ make good use of my basic Antenna systems training i got from a Czech university(i was there as an ERASMUS student).
Hello Stefan i started coding 6 months ago, and last week I started my first job as a junior web developer :) and i did your course in those 6 months as well as other resources :) so thank you 😊
It's very subjective. It may take him 3 months or 3 years, nobody knows. And Stef, you were right. PHP and JQuery is bread and butter of the web. It took me 2 years to understand that.
That's not how the word "subjective" is used, and it doesn't mean what you meant to say. Don't try to be fancy, you'll end up looking dumb instead. :=)
Being fancy by trying to tell someone to not be fancy? Also, he used subjective just fine. Find a dictionary with more than one definition of each word in it (your children's dictionary won't do) and you'll see "pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual:"... So yeah, David Basil clearly has better command of English than you do. You should really be a nicer person.
When i started to learn how to code only i knew is bash shell script and fully costumize linux desktop. I entered completly blind into programing, only i had is mentor that recommended me to learn c++ and he gave me resource after 6 months i learned basics, pointers, stack... now i am on 9mounth starting to learn OpenGL, i studied 1-3hours per day. Sill i am proud of my accomplished for having no clue to making something useful.
Do NOT leave your job to learn how to code. Learn it on the side. There are 3 routes you can go in the long run: start your own company, get a job at a company, become a freelancer, or go to school. If you are going for a career job at a company, you're not guaranteed a job when you deem yourself as "ready" for a job after self-study. I have been studying code and computer science on my own for 3 years. The first 2 of those years I was finishing up a Bachelor's in Literature. I can create full-stack web applications in multiple stacks. I know several languages, several frameworks/libraries, and much more CS theory than a typical self-taught developer. I can't find a single job anywhere that will hire me, let alone even give me an interview while living near San Diego. I'm not guaranteed a job by a company even if I have the skills to perform the job. Why on earth would they hire me when they can hire someone that studied CS for 4 years? The risk involved is so much lower to hire someone that has at least some credibility. The only way to get credibility as a self-taught individual is a solid, freelance portfolio. And no, a portfolio is not really the little apps you make. A company wants to see a portfolio that consists of work you were PAID to do. This is what you should do, given my experience: Learn code on the side. When you are ready, do freelance work in areas that you are interested in and also see a job market for. After doing some freelance, you'll have that portfolio and you'll also have a sense of what kind of work will fit you. Then you can go for a career job or start your own development agency or company or whatever. What you do have to realize though is that this field is very dynamic. Its changing every couple years, so you never want to stop learning. You also want to acknowledge the trends in the field, and get knowledge on the trends that seem like they can make a big impact. By trends, I don't mean using Node.js or some trendy framework. By trends, I mean the ones that will shift the industry (i.e, trends like artificial intelligence)
It definitely depends on your situation though, if you have the savings and the motivation and that's how you focus best then quitting your job might be the right decision (it was for me at least)
I agree, it comes down to individual personality. Some are able to study part time after work, others (like myself) require to be thrown in 110% into it, altering the environment to support goals, allow for intense focused study that would make it possible to be able to learn multiple topics in one month that would take most people 3-6 months to learn part-time or in some cases even full-time.
if it take you 3 years to master framework to make apps, then you doing something wrong. i am no expert but it shouldn't take you that long in web development bro
Wasn't it Microsoft that first came out with 'parts of page updating' w/o having to reload the whole page. I vividly remember the first experience and it was jaw-dropping. DHTM was it? .. and yes, I remember walking into the Microcenter books section and seeing all red everywhere; Wrox Press. I still have the PHP5 book when PHP 5 was new. It had one of the best articles on "state" of the web application.
even if i understand that learning to code on spare time would be a much safer choice, i think it would be really hard to work 8 hours a day and then spend another 3/4 to study computer programming
Alberto Plebani it's tough. I did it after 9hr work days, studied 3 hrs every night and spent an hour with my wife and kids, if I was lucky to catch them awake. After 9 months of that, I finally saved enough money to leave my dead end job and focus on programming full-time for at least 5 months.
Ambition 101 eight years ago i was working as an employee and tried to start freelancing in my spare time: simply put it was unsustainable both for my personal life and for my clients. I decided to take a "leap of faith" and left my job to start freelancing fulltime and i'm happy and proud to say that it was one of the best choices i've taken in my life! This is the reason why even if i am a very careful person, i think that some decisions must be taken "all or nothing".
Alberto Plebani Thank you for that message, as it left me with double the motivation and optimism that I already had. It's week 2 of learning full time and I've already grasped more than I have in months. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings!
Ambition 101 i think you'll have great satisfactions since i can see you have put so many efforts and are so motivated that there is no other result for people with that focus! So obviously, even if there will be some hard times, don't loose motivation and keep on and the results will come. I wish you all the best, it seems you deserve it!
This is the position im in right now. Im in a veeery physical full time job so when I get home and I finally I some free time my brain just doesnt function properly anymore... usually im able to do coding for an hour or something just by really forcing myself... So that only leaves the weekends. So instead im planning to quit my job in 2.5 months and I will have 10-12 months worth of expenses saved up. I feel I really need to take that leap so I can have enough time and energy to make it work!
Hey Stefan, new to your channel and quickly becoming a big fan of your vids! Anyway, I just learnt html and css. Starting to consider looking for the demand in my area but to be honest. I'm an undergraduate chemical engineer and the whole web development industry is completely new to me. Any recommendations on how I could survey the demand? I'm in Malaysia, will there be a difference?
Try indeed.com and start asking around. Search on Google for 'web design jobs Malaysia' or web development in Malaysia. Check out freelance sites like upwork, freelancer, craiglist, guru.com etc ... Ask around with friends and family ... do a little networking. You will soon see the demand. Every region has it's own thing. For example, in Ottawa Canada, for whatever reason, it seems Drupal is in yuge demand. In Germany, I am told it's PHP and .Net. Hope that helps.
Ahh. I was selling a hybrid bacteria strain that sped up the nitrogen cycle from 30 days to 24hrs. I also sold premium carbon, synthetic and naturally occurring ion exchange media - resins and zeolites. That was a loooong time ago.
I might do it. I plan on putting out a podcast series that will be business oriented, and the format will be story based - based on my experiences and the experiences of my friends over the last 28 years.
Stefan Mischook Great ideas, as usual, keep up the good work! (you are the person that got me into programming, so i look up to you as a role model, you rarely see an experiences nerd do youtube videos)
I'm on the fence whether I should invest the time to learn pure code to build sites or rely on web tools (i.e. plugins built for web builders) in conjunction with platforms and CMS's. Web tools are getting pretty robust and can accomplish a lot without knowing more than a little code snippet here and there.
Hi! You need to learn HTML and some CSS before PHP since the PHP code will control the HTML and CSS code. It is probably confusing now to you, but once you get into it, this will make perfect sense. So if you want to learn PHP, I've cut my price of my course that teaches you HTML, CSS, PHP, JavaScript and so much more for just the price of a PHP course alone: shop.killervideostore.com/ ... So buy me 2 beers and a burger, and you I will teach you professional PHP skills!
Stefan Mischook Thanks . I already bought the course a few months ago. I just need to get the pain in the ass unhelpful university assignments out of the way first! Cheers
interesting as always teacher Stef,
I started coding about 8 months ago and it was pretty hard at that time because I didn't know where to start and what to learn.
But after a couple of months you get around it. That's were your courses helped me a lot. I saved lots of time. A big thanks by the way.
I already started doing some web projects on the side but unfortunately I found myself being an obsessive compulsive in the context of "man I need to learn graphic design and tools like photoshop and illustrator..."
It seems to me like a never ending ocean. Any advice teacher Stef?
By the way being a freelancer here in austria is really difficult. I don't know about canada but here I have to pay 30% of income for all kind of insurances and 35-50% for ALL kinds of taxes😵. It's crazyyy but still a great country xD
Wow. Heavy taxes down there. But you guys have a better social safety net from what I hear. Pros and cons to all places. Advice: now that you've done my courses (thanks for the kind words,) just go after projects and learn as need. That's why I say that knowing your basics is key, this way learning new stuff as the need comes up, will be easier.
The best fighters know many techniques, but typically will only use 1-2 ... and win. Same with coding in a way. I hope that makes sense.
johannes scheitel do you end up paying 30% + 35-50%?? That is 80% loss(50+30,worst case), 65%(30+35,best case)..that's a lot, it does not let you pile up a big sum of money(save for old age) after a decade of work.If you are an employee do you loose less money on taxes and insurance?
Being employed or even unemployed in Austria seems to be more rewarding than freelancing.
You have less stress chasing clients and running your own business. The wages aren't that hight but I definetely get more profit out of it and the employer is paying your insurances in that case.
However Programmers in Germany are doing much better on the other hand than we do in Austria both in terms of being employed or doing freelance work.
But the sad thing is that in many cases unemployed people here in Austria are doing waay better than those who work. I myself know people who are living a cheerful life and even piling up lots of cash. Even though they are the leeches of our country xD.
Ofcourse there are people who are stuck in some kind of hardship that life through at them and are forced to be a social case but most of them are just lazy cockraoches. SAD
How about you man? Where are you from?
I was in Austria (for 7 days) 3 years ago, i fell in love with this AMAZING city VIENNA, but i did not know how to stay there,i still do not speak German (i am stuck at A2 level in this language, i am learning it slowly). I am currently learning C language in depth, not the basic stuff(what i learn is hard to find online....). i have an electronics Eng. degree(year 2014) with a distinction(6th out of 1000+ graduates of ALL times). Currently,i am stuck,unemployed,i do not do electronics anymore. I need C for embedded stuff,after that, ii will focus on learning c++ ,i am practicing data structures until i master the topic.... and if i can make it i plan to build a system using machine learning, AI, opencv and electronics for the hardware. I will have to learn the HTML stack to promote it online... smells like it is going to take some years of intensive effort( i started out last year). I can't find work so i do not care anymore... i will just attempt to build a sophisticated system... i might need to employ/ make good use of my basic Antenna systems training i got from a Czech university(i was there as an ERASMUS student).
wish you good luck man and I hope you'll become a success
#1. Confidence is key - #2. communicate like you know what your talking about #3. Have an example project to show
1+2+3 = job
Hello Stefan i started coding 6 months ago, and last week I started my first job as a junior web developer :) and i did your course in those 6 months as well as other resources :) so thank you 😊
Congratulations!
How are you going? I want to start any advice? I'm from brazil btw
It's very subjective. It may take him 3 months or 3 years, nobody knows.
And Stef, you were right. PHP and JQuery is bread and butter of the web. It took me 2 years to understand that.
That's not how the word "subjective" is used, and it doesn't mean what you meant to say. Don't try to be fancy, you'll end up looking dumb instead. :=)
Being fancy by trying to tell someone to not be fancy? Also, he used subjective just fine. Find a dictionary with more than one definition of each word in it (your children's dictionary won't do) and you'll see "pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual:"... So yeah, David Basil clearly has better command of English than you do. You should really be a nicer person.
I remember the days of DHTML ... instant updates on the page w/o reload. It was like magic.
When i started to learn how to code only i knew is bash shell script and fully costumize linux desktop. I entered completly blind into programing, only i had is mentor that recommended me to learn c++ and he gave me resource after 6 months i learned basics, pointers, stack... now i am on 9mounth starting to learn OpenGL, i studied 1-3hours per day. Sill i am proud of my accomplished for having no clue to making something useful.
Do NOT leave your job to learn how to code. Learn it on the side. There are 3 routes you can go in the long run: start your own company, get a job at a company, become a freelancer, or go to school.
If you are going for a career job at a company, you're not guaranteed a job when you deem yourself as "ready" for a job after self-study. I have been studying code and computer science on my own for 3 years. The first 2 of those years I was finishing up a Bachelor's in Literature. I can create full-stack web applications in multiple stacks. I know several languages, several frameworks/libraries, and much more CS theory than a typical self-taught developer. I can't find a single job anywhere that will hire me, let alone even give me an interview while living near San Diego.
I'm not guaranteed a job by a company even if I have the skills to perform the job. Why on earth would they hire me when they can hire someone that studied CS for 4 years? The risk involved is so much lower to hire someone that has at least some credibility.
The only way to get credibility as a self-taught individual is a solid, freelance portfolio. And no, a portfolio is not really the little apps you make. A company wants to see a portfolio that consists of work you were PAID to do.
This is what you should do, given my experience: Learn code on the side. When you are ready, do freelance work in areas that you are interested in and also see a job market for. After doing some freelance, you'll have that portfolio and you'll also have a sense of what kind of work will fit you. Then you can go for a career job or start your own development agency or company or whatever.
What you do have to realize though is that this field is very dynamic. Its changing every couple years, so you never want to stop learning. You also want to acknowledge the trends in the field, and get knowledge on the trends that seem like they can make a big impact. By trends, I don't mean using Node.js or some trendy framework. By trends, I mean the ones that will shift the industry (i.e, trends like artificial intelligence)
tear728 Very cool man! Mind if you can share your portfolio here? I'm in a similar situation, I know only one backend stack though.
It definitely depends on your situation though, if you have the savings and the motivation and that's how you focus best then quitting your job might be the right decision (it was for me at least)
I agree, it comes down to individual personality. Some are able to study part time after work, others (like myself) require to be thrown in 110% into it, altering the environment to support goals, allow for intense focused study that would make it possible to be able to learn multiple topics in one month that would take most people 3-6 months to learn part-time or in some cases even full-time.
if it take you 3 years to master framework to make apps, then you doing something wrong. i am no expert but it shouldn't take you that long in web development bro
ak47ava .dman Not taking 3 years to learn frameworks, nor did I say that.
i took 2 year off and I learned two new languages python - and Swift....I was stuck with my job now I can get back with my enhanced skilled
Wasn't it Microsoft that first came out with 'parts of page updating' w/o having to reload the whole page. I vividly remember the first experience and it was jaw-dropping. DHTM was it? .. and yes, I remember walking into the Microcenter books section and seeing all red everywhere; Wrox Press. I still have the PHP5 book when PHP 5 was new. It had one of the best articles on "state" of the web application.
even if i understand that learning to code on spare time would be a much safer choice, i think it would be really hard to work 8 hours a day and then spend another 3/4 to study computer programming
Alberto Plebani it's tough. I did it after 9hr work days, studied 3 hrs every night and spent an hour with my wife and kids, if I was lucky to catch them awake. After 9 months of that, I finally saved enough money to leave my dead end job and focus on programming full-time for at least 5 months.
Ambition 101 eight years ago i was working as an employee and tried to start freelancing in my spare time: simply put it was unsustainable both for my personal life and for my clients. I decided to take a "leap of faith" and left my job to start freelancing fulltime and i'm happy and proud to say that it was one of the best choices i've taken in my life! This is the reason why even if i am a very careful person, i think that some decisions must be taken "all or nothing".
Alberto Plebani Thank you for that message, as it left me with double the motivation and optimism that I already had. It's week 2 of learning full time and I've already grasped more than I have in months. Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings!
Ambition 101 i think you'll have great satisfactions since i can see you have put so many efforts and are so motivated that there is no other result for people with that focus! So obviously, even if there will be some hard times, don't loose motivation and keep on and the results will come. I wish you all the best, it seems you deserve it!
This is the position im in right now. Im in a veeery physical full time job so when I get home and I finally I some free time my brain just doesnt function properly anymore... usually im able to do coding for an hour or something just by really forcing myself... So that only leaves the weekends.
So instead im planning to quit my job in 2.5 months and I will have 10-12 months worth of expenses saved up. I feel I really need to take that leap so I can have enough time and energy to make it work!
I love these talks
great video, as always.
Thanks
This is very encouraging, thank you.
i remember that transition from cgi to asp.. then to cf back in the 90s
Yep
Thank you for sharing your stories.
i'll love a house with windows looking at those trees breezing away ....zzzzzz.....
Answer starts at 7:30
Hey Stefan, new to your channel and quickly becoming a big fan of your vids! Anyway, I just learnt html and css. Starting to consider looking for the demand in my area but to be honest. I'm an undergraduate chemical engineer and the whole web development industry is completely new to me. Any recommendations on how I could survey the demand? I'm in Malaysia, will there be a difference?
Try indeed.com and start asking around. Search on Google for 'web design jobs Malaysia' or web development in Malaysia. Check out freelance sites like upwork, freelancer, craiglist, guru.com etc ... Ask around with friends and family ... do a little networking. You will soon see the demand. Every region has it's own thing. For example, in Ottawa Canada, for whatever reason, it seems Drupal is in yuge demand. In Germany, I am told it's PHP and .Net. Hope that helps.
Do you have a podcast?????
Water purification background here......(environmental engineering )
Ahh. I was selling a hybrid bacteria strain that sped up the nitrogen cycle from 30 days to 24hrs. I also sold premium carbon, synthetic and naturally occurring ion exchange media - resins and zeolites. That was a loooong time ago.
great video like always
Stef makea video about you "fish" story. Im really interested in learning more about it.
I might do it. I plan on putting out a podcast series that will be business oriented, and the format will be story based - based on my experiences and the experiences of my friends over the last 28 years.
Stefan Mischook Great ideas, as usual, keep up the good work! (you are the person that got me into programming, so i look up to you as a role model, you rarely see an experiences nerd do youtube videos)
Very example of using copy and paste
You were looking different man.
I'm on the fence whether I should invest the time to learn pure code to build sites or rely on web tools (i.e. plugins built for web builders) in conjunction with platforms and CMS's. Web tools are getting pretty robust and can accomplish a lot without knowing more than a little code snippet here and there.
Smart guy
stefan distracts my attention as i start coding
Hey Stefan i am 23y old and i want to start learning web developing is it possible in my age?
100%!!
consider yourself lucky.
Do you recommend learning php before html and css?
Hi! You need to learn HTML and some CSS before PHP since the PHP code will control the HTML and CSS code. It is probably confusing now to you, but once you get into it, this will make perfect sense. So if you want to learn PHP, I've cut my price of my course that teaches you HTML, CSS, PHP, JavaScript and so much more for just the price of a PHP course alone: shop.killervideostore.com/
... So buy me 2 beers and a burger, and you I will teach you professional PHP skills!
Stefan Mischook Thanks . I already bought the course a few months ago. I just need to get the pain in the ass unhelpful university assignments out of the way first! Cheers
LOL! Thanks.
I've just enjoyed lesson 9 - in Ch5 the 9 essential tags where you teach Arnie about lists haha.
Nice!
Dude! You ramble too much