As soon as I finished watching this video I went to the Makita website and downloaded the manual. Just as expected the manual clearly shows a picture of the operator standing on the opposite side of the chain when actually cutting. If Makita had intended for the operator to stand on the same side as the chain the handles would also be on that side. It is amusing that some believe that setting the controls and then moving to the other side is not possible. Lol.
I have never used one of these in my life and the boss brought one out today. This was an excellent crash course on the chain mortise Thank you sir very well explained. I'm a stick framer by trade but have been doing alot more timber trusses, pergolas ,Pavillion type builds and have been wanting to learn how to mortise and tenon.
Good video,I’ve had the same mortiser for last 15 years a fantastic Machine. On top of the small level are two mortise width adjustable bolts so you don’t need to dial the handle,just set the width cut one width pull the lever which is set to your width and cut again no measuring required,I always use mine from the other side as intended which I find easier but I think it’s personal choice,in the uk the machine comes with a slightly wider chain ,chain guard and 240v but the same basic tool.
When I bought my machine I read the 16 page instruction book that came with the machine. On page 7 it shows the operators hands on the handles standing behind the machine, as I have shown in my tips videos. I don't disagree with George on where he stands, that is his choice. I prefer to follow the manufacturer's instructions. I am a tall guy but I place my timbers down on shorter horses (I call ponies) so that I can look down at the chain from above to watch it cut the mortise. Otherwise nice video. PS, you can (or should be able) get the pdf manual from the distributor of this machine.
I've watched your videos. George is a lot smoother and cleaner. Sorry dude. If your only reason is 'manufacturer's pictures', then maybe you should try this technique. I did, and it works. They put all the controls on one side for a reason...
Yep , have been using one for 30 years+ and sometimes you need a bit of body weight to help it , especially if you’re cutting oak . If you can read the label surely you’re on the right side😂
I am having trouble with my saw jumping during cutting. My chain is properly adj. And it seems that the clamp is as tight as it will get. Any feedback would be great. Thanks
Sir, I like your video. I hope you may be able to answer a couple of questions. Which Makita is this? 7100,7102,7103.7104. I am asking before I purchase one. The second part of my question is clamping width. The timber in the video seems to be approximately 8" but I am not sure. Most of the mortisers advertise between 140 and 190mm. This of course is shy of 8" but yours seems to have lots of rod length. Did you modify to accommodate larger timbers. Thank you again for taking time to demonstrate and I appreciate if you can provide a response.
Great video. I have just ordered the machine here in SW France. I am building our last house at the young age of 70 I need to save my energy its a big build LOL
Working on the WORNG side ! And your hacksaw Mark well that will change every time you change and or sharpen the chain ? And it's very easy to set up on the correct side of machine and adjust so what's your point ? And you don't want to on that side when your doing a through mortise ? And I'm guessing you never had a chain come off on you good luck you need it .
Hi Tim ...............only time the chain width might change is when if is sharpened, then its only a few thousandths , its pretty easy to make the adj by eye ,,,,,,,,,,,,, like hitting a baseball , no biggie ,if your on the back side - WHERE THE CORD COMES OUT , THEN YOUR ON THE WRONG SIDE ,- you wouldnt use your tablesaw from the back side right , the point is pretty easy , if your reaching around from the back , then your using in Backwards like so many others here on You Tube ...................we have prob 30 Mortising Machines in our group , we all use it the same way . for many years too , never has a chain come off , if your using the machine properly should not be an issue ................i have however heard of many guys getting the fingers bit by reaching around from the back, There a many furniture shops with floor model Chain Mortises, no one uses them from the back side ...................Good Luck ,you need it
Again! Seriously, has anyone ever had this machine throw a chain? This is the logical (and correct) use of this tool. All of the adjustment and operating controls are at hand and easily viewed from the front (chain) side of the mortiser. Also, why would cutting a through mortise influence how you use the tool? Same procedure, just finish the mortise from the opposite side to minimize tear out.
@@northfordtframers I used this machine for quite a few years. Ergonomically the machine handle orientation dictate the position of operation and working height. Working height of the machine should be about waist high so the operator has proper control and isn't in a position that causes undue stress/strain. The operation of the machine is from the rear of the machine, chord placement is in the rear to reduce risk of getting caught in the chain.Latches to lower mortiser and to rotate are meant to be used by the thumbs while gripping the handles with hands/fingers.This can only be properly accomplished from the rear side of the machine. Machine operation from the front where the chain is live would not be considered safe. For setup- one could certainly argue the ruler side(front) would be where setup would take place however I never had issue seeing the ruler while operating from the (back) side of the mortiser. Page 7 of the operators manual in particular clearly shows operator position on the mortiser. If you've ever used any of the Hitachi or Ryobi chain mortisers of similar type to the 7104L, they all have similar arrangements of rulers and markers in the front and operation is in the rear. All that said, it's up to each operator to decide how they prefer to use it.
Cack handed is an English expression to describe this method . Was a framer for 30 years + and always cut a mortise from the other side . Get over the top of it so you can see the lines and use pressure which you’ll need if you’re cutting oak . Have cut mortises horizontally like this when needed , each to their own I guess .
Looking into getting one of these. How long do blades last? How many cuts does it make or how many times can you sharpen before it needs to be replaced.
Nice video. Everything you said is in the two pages of instruction that comes with each machine. If people are on the wrong side then they simply didn't read the directions. My question: the 45 degree reception angle of the mortise is irrelevant to the tenon?
hey! great video, thank you! I have a question as I am deciding which mortiser to buy; does this Makita or any other for that matter do beveled mortises? If not have you seen some use a jig to achieve a bevel mortise? thanks in advance! cheers
Another great video, George! If I may, one constructive criticism and one question. The criticism? You are on the correct side, not the right side. For those who have used the Makita Mortiser, that is obvious. To those who have not, and might be thinking of taking your course, calling it the correct side is clearer. Now the question. Yes, it's a great, albeit expensive machine. But admit it, with your golden heart and magic hands, you're still as fast with an auger bit and chisels, aren't you? 😉
Great video. I thought I was the only one operating this from the "wrong" side. Turns out there are some others that can think for themselves. Consider lowering your work horses. It'll be easier on you back. Also, I never use the #2 position. It's a waste of time. Almost all of my mortises are 2x 8,10,12. Position #1 makes a 2" long mortise. Set up the #3 position with the screw stop so it cuts a 4" long mortise. In the first location I've cut a 2x4 mortise with 6 plunges. I have a 20 mm chain.
Hey George,. Glad that I learned how to use this machine in your class. I just purchased my first Makita Chisel Mortiser. Watching this video was a great refresher since I missed the April 2020 class. Keep me up to date on the next class. I look forward to o going! Todd Gausepohl
I have been looking at the Makita but I have friends who timber frame for a living and they are pushing me to get a Mafell or Swisspro but they are easily two to three times the price of the Makita. Could they truly be THAT much better than a Makita?
@@northfordtframers I appreciate your feedback. I think I see a new Makita in my future. Mafell and Swiss are also nice but more nice than I think I need for the volume of mortises I will be doing in my lifetime. Will probably be seeing you all in your next class.
Way easier to operate on the other side and you can more easily site down the zero mark on the scale. Also who is using the scale for anything other then lining up the chain, its metric.
At first, I thought this was a parody and it was quite funny. Then, I realized you’re actually being serious. All the ergonomics of this machine are designed and optimized for the operator to stand behind and above looking down. However, do whatever works best for you! 👍
Avery - The cord comes out the back side just like a Table Saw or so many other power tools , its an indication of the Non Operator Side .......................... if you use it this way you are reading the Scale Backwards ???? Doesnt that seem odd to you ........Also you are operating in to low , not very kind to your back ................. Why work bent over ???? How often do you use your Makita ?
another comment from a Timber Framer who knows how to use it the correct way - Dominic Matte Dominic Matte 6 years ago nice video but you are using it wrong. all the controls are on the "front" side. you should be standing in the front side not cramping yourself over the machine to see what you are doing. and you dont have to flip the machine, just cut your end line with your 2inch chisel. a normal 2X8 inche hole 4 inches deep should take 3minutes 1
Mate I don't disagree with the way that your saying is the correct way to use this exceptionally brilliant tool I do however dislike a little the forcefull way in which you are putting your point across it could likely put people off from subscribing to your channel. Anyone who has forked out the considerable amount of money to buy this tool is of course free to use it as they deem fit and find comfortable. I will search out and watch more of your videos personally as I absolutely love working with wood and learning as much as possible regarding different methods despite working with wood for around sixty hours a week already. How much is this tool in the US please? They are around £3000 here in the uk! You guys seem to pay considerably less for your tools than we do. Thanks for the video.
The SCALE or Short Ruler which is angled back slightly is meant to be read from the Correct side which this Video demonstrates and shows . It makes no common sense at all to operate this from the back side ! And its a great way to hurt yourself ........
Mate, there is NO WAY you're correct on this -you're simply brimming over with wrongability. Don't take my word for it -check the manual. Makita designed this to be operated with the chain away from you. The position of the power switch alone and the safety interlock button makes it obvious which side you should be gripping it from -which is the opposite from what you're suggesting. Who operates the power switch on any tool with their little finger?
As soon as I finished watching this video I went to the Makita website and downloaded the manual. Just as expected the manual clearly shows a picture of the operator standing on the opposite side of the chain when actually cutting. If Makita had intended for the operator to stand on the same side as the chain the handles would also be on that side. It is amusing that some believe that setting the controls and then moving to the other side is not possible. Lol.
I have never used one of these in my life and the boss brought one out today. This was an excellent crash course on the chain mortise Thank you sir very well explained. I'm a stick framer by trade but have been doing alot more timber trusses, pergolas ,Pavillion type builds and have been wanting to learn how to mortise and tenon.
FANTASTIC VIDEO. Breaking out my 7104L in the morning.
I really appreciate that piece of tutorials. Thank you very much.
I wish I appreciated true teaching ability 40 years ago. ... it’s a talent, thank you!
Thank you from London UK for a very clear and helpful explanation.
The Makita manual shows operator on opposite side of chain.
Good video,I’ve had the same mortiser for last 15 years a fantastic Machine. On top of the small level are two mortise width adjustable bolts so you don’t need to dial the handle,just set the width cut one width pull the lever which is set to your width and cut again no measuring required,I always use mine from the other side as intended which I find easier but I think it’s personal choice,in the uk the machine comes with a slightly wider chain ,chain guard and 240v but the same basic tool.
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Kia Ora & Good morning from Auckland, New Zealand ...great video bro
When I bought my machine I read the 16 page instruction book that came with the machine.
On page 7 it shows the operators hands on the handles standing behind the machine, as I have shown in my tips videos. I don't disagree with George on where he stands, that is his choice. I prefer to follow the manufacturer's instructions. I am a tall guy but I place my timbers down on shorter horses (I call ponies) so that I can look down at the chain from above to watch it cut the mortise. Otherwise nice video. PS, you can (or should be able) get the pdf manual from the distributor of this machine.
Exactly Jim, why anyone would want arms in the path of a broken chain is beyond my understanding...
I've watched your videos. George is a lot smoother and cleaner. Sorry dude. If your only reason is 'manufacturer's pictures', then maybe you should try this technique. I did, and it works. They put all the controls on one side for a reason...
@@highlandfungi Maybe you should find a hobby that doesn't have so many sharp and pointy things. hahaha
Yep , have been using one for 30 years+ and sometimes you need a bit of body weight to help it , especially if you’re cutting oak . If you can read the label surely you’re on the right side😂
Well presented
What model Makita is that? I see 7104, 7102, 7100 with various suffixes.
I am having trouble with my saw jumping during cutting. My chain is properly adj. And it seems that the clamp is as tight as it will get. Any feedback would be great. Thanks
Sir, I like your video. I hope you may be able to answer a couple of questions. Which Makita is this? 7100,7102,7103.7104. I am asking before I purchase one. The second part of my question is clamping width. The timber in the video seems to be approximately 8" but I am not sure. Most of the mortisers advertise between 140 and 190mm. This of course is shy of 8" but yours seems to have lots of rod length. Did you modify to accommodate larger timbers. Thank you again for taking time to demonstrate and I appreciate if you can provide a response.
Excellent instructions George. Looking forward to coming back to Connecticut! You are a great teacher and leader!
-Shane from Wa State
Great video. I have just ordered the machine here in SW France. I am building our last house at the young age of 70 I need to save my energy its a big build LOL
Working on the WORNG side ! And your hacksaw Mark well that will change every time you change and or sharpen the chain ? And it's very easy to set up on the correct side of machine and adjust so what's your point ? And you don't want to on that side when your doing a through mortise ? And I'm guessing you never had a chain come off on you good luck you need it .
Hi Tim ...............only time the chain width might change is when if is sharpened,
then its only a few thousandths , its pretty easy to make the adj by eye ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
like hitting a baseball , no biggie ,if your on the back side - WHERE THE CORD COMES OUT , THEN YOUR ON THE WRONG SIDE ,- you wouldnt use your tablesaw from the back side right , the point is pretty easy , if your reaching
around from the back , then your using in Backwards like so many others here on You Tube ...................we have prob 30 Mortising Machines in our group , we all
use it the same way . for many years too , never has a chain come off , if your
using the machine properly should not be an issue ................i have however
heard of many guys getting the fingers bit by reaching around from the back,
There a many furniture shops with floor model Chain Mortises, no one uses
them from the back side ...................Good Luck ,you need it
Again! Seriously, has anyone ever had this machine throw a chain?
This is the logical (and correct) use of this tool. All of the adjustment and operating controls are at hand and easily viewed from the front (chain) side of the mortiser. Also, why would cutting a through mortise influence how you use the tool? Same procedure, just finish the mortise from the opposite side to minimize tear out.
@@northfordtframers you don't seem to be very talented in this line of work sorry.
@@northfordtframers I used this machine for quite a few years. Ergonomically the machine handle orientation dictate the position of operation and working height. Working height of the machine should be about waist high so the operator has proper control and isn't in a position that causes undue stress/strain. The operation of the machine is from the rear of the machine, chord placement is in the rear to reduce risk of getting caught in the chain.Latches to lower mortiser and to rotate are meant to be used by the thumbs while gripping the handles with hands/fingers.This can only be properly accomplished from the rear side of the machine. Machine operation from the front where the chain is live would not be considered safe. For setup- one could certainly argue the ruler side(front) would be where setup would take place however I never had issue seeing the ruler while operating from the (back) side of the mortiser. Page 7 of the operators manual in particular clearly shows operator position on the mortiser. If you've ever used any of the Hitachi or Ryobi chain mortisers of similar type to the 7104L, they all have similar arrangements of rulers and markers in the front and operation is in the rear. All that said, it's up to each operator to decide how they prefer to use it.
@@robertstaurowsky7501 Exactly thank you!
Masin price? Please
That doesn't look particularly hard wood . How would it cope in Eucalypt ?
Amazing explanation, thank you.
This was great! Thank you!
Cack handed is an English expression to describe this method . Was a framer for 30 years + and always cut a mortise from the other side . Get over the top of it so you can see the lines and use pressure which you’ll need if you’re cutting oak . Have cut mortises horizontally like this when needed , each to their own I guess .
Thank you for the details
Looking into getting one of these. How long do blades last? How many cuts does it make or how many times can you sharpen before it needs to be replaced.
Chain can last years. Sharpening isn't like a chain saw though, so get it done professionally and it will last longer.
Nice video. Everything you said is in the two pages of instruction that comes with each machine. If people are on the wrong side then they simply didn't read the directions.
My question: the 45 degree reception angle of the mortise is irrelevant to the tenon?
hey! great video, thank you! I have a question as I am deciding which mortiser to buy; does this Makita or any other for that matter do beveled mortises? If not have you seen some use a jig to achieve a bevel mortise? thanks in advance!
cheers
NICE to see someone who actually uses things the intended way
Another great video, George! If I may, one constructive criticism and one question. The criticism? You are on the correct side, not the right side. For those who have used the Makita Mortiser, that is obvious. To those who have not, and might be thinking of taking your course, calling it the correct side is clearer. Now the question. Yes, it's a great, albeit expensive machine. But admit it, with your golden heart and magic hands, you're still as fast with an auger bit and chisels, aren't you? 😉
Hey Brad ,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank You for your feedback !!
good video of the machine, but you didnt showcase setting the depth, unless i missed something...
How much cost this machine sir
I really need one please send me a link
Awesome demo. I've been using it backwards for years.
Great video. I thought I was the only one operating this from the "wrong" side. Turns out there are some others that can think for themselves.
Consider lowering your work horses. It'll be easier on you back.
Also, I never use the #2 position. It's a waste of time.
Almost all of my mortises are 2x 8,10,12. Position #1 makes a 2" long mortise. Set up the #3 position with the screw stop so it cuts a 4" long mortise. In the first location I've cut a 2x4 mortise with 6 plunges. I have a 20 mm chain.
Hey George,. Glad that I learned how to use this machine in your class. I just purchased my first Makita Chisel Mortiser. Watching this video was a great refresher since I missed the April 2020 class. Keep me up to date on the next class. I look forward to o going!
Todd Gausepohl
Outstanding, thank you.
can i assume that there is a depth stop ?
there is , you need to set it for your Depth !!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been looking at the Makita but I have friends who timber frame for a living and they are pushing me to get a Mafell or Swisspro but they are easily two to three times the price of the Makita. Could they truly be THAT much better than a Makita?
John _ We love the Makita ............we must have 30 of them in our group , save your money !!
@@northfordtframers I appreciate your feedback. I think I see a new Makita in my future. Mafell and Swiss are also nice but more nice than I think I need for the volume of mortises I will be doing in my lifetime. Will probably be seeing you all in your next class.
@@northfordtframers Chain size preference?
@@johnbauby6612 Great question.......they are sized in MM .........get the one closest to 7/8 .....................Good job Buddy !!
What model is that machine?
7104L
Way easier to operate on the other side and you can more easily site down the zero mark on the scale. Also who is using the scale for anything other then lining up the chain, its metric.
Can someone buy for me this machine.
How much for this mortiser?
John they are between £2500 & £3300 British pounds so around the 2000 bucks mark.they are very expensive but a fantastic machine!.
At first, I thought this was a parody and it was quite funny. Then, I realized you’re actually being serious. All the ergonomics of this machine are designed and optimized for the operator to stand behind and above looking down. However, do whatever works best for you! 👍
Avery - The cord comes out the back side just like a Table Saw or so many other power tools , its an indication of the Non Operator Side ..........................
if you use it this way you are reading the Scale Backwards ???? Doesnt that seem odd to you ........Also you are operating in to low , not very kind to your back .................
Why work bent over ???? How often do you use your Makita ?
another comment from a Timber Framer who knows how to use it the correct way - Dominic Matte
Dominic Matte
6 years ago
nice video but you are using it wrong. all the controls are on the "front" side. you should be standing in the front side not cramping yourself over the machine to see what you are doing. and you dont have to flip the machine, just cut your end line with your 2inch chisel. a normal 2X8 inche hole 4 inches deep should take 3minutes
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@@northfordtframers 😅
Good video!
You love this
Using a pepper mill as a mallet is bizarre!
Why would anyone want to read the scale backwards and upside down ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Mate I don't disagree with the way that your saying is the correct way to use this exceptionally brilliant tool I do however dislike a little the forcefull way in which you are putting your point across it could likely put people off from subscribing to your channel. Anyone who has forked out the considerable amount of money to buy this tool is of course free to use it as they deem fit and find comfortable.
I will search out and watch more of your videos personally as I absolutely love working with wood and learning as much as possible regarding different methods despite working with wood for around sixty hours a week already.
How much is this tool in the US please? They are around £3000 here in the uk! You guys seem to pay considerably less for your tools than we do. Thanks for the video.
Obviously you haven't read the manual
The SCALE or Short Ruler which is angled back slightly is meant to be read from the Correct side which this Video demonstrates
and shows . It makes no common sense at all to operate this from the back side ! And its a great way to hurt yourself ........
Perigoso operar do lado da corrente.
Крутяк!
You guys ...............
A great machine but very expensive.
Most timber framers are big giant guys? That's not true.
Ha ....................No harm intended !!
Thanks for the video. Disregard the blowback, carpenters can be bitches- 40 years in the trade, trust me.
The joint turned out to be very very loose….failure in my view.
Nobody is using this the wrong way round
Noisy as fuck and bogs Down readily
Mate, there is NO WAY you're correct on this -you're simply brimming over with wrongability. Don't take my word for it -check the manual. Makita designed this to be operated with the chain away from you. The position of the power switch alone and the safety interlock button makes it obvious which side you should be gripping it from -which is the opposite from what you're suggesting. Who operates the power switch on any tool with their little finger?
‘You guys’ is used quite a lot...
there ya go guys , it fits sloppy as fuck