How Guantanamo's 'forever prisoner' has been held for 20 years
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2021
- ABC News' Mireya Villarreal speaks with acclaimed director Alex Gibney about his new HBO documentary on the 20-year detention and alleged torture of Guantanamo captive Abu Zubaydah.
Do you know where most terrorists come from? Saudi Arabia. Which also happens to spend billions a year purchasing military weapons from the US and the countries have a great relationship. What kind of foreign policy is that? 9/11 has been used as an excuse to enact all sorts of war crimes. The war on Iraq was completely illegal- the country had never shown any aggression towards the US. Why not attack Saudi Arabia? That would be a bad business decision now wouldn't it?
The war on terror has created way more terrorists that it has defeated. Your presidents are nothing but warlords. But you know what, once upon a time the world thought the Roman empire would reign forever. All empirical powers collapse eventually
Exactly !!!
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These types of torture should not be used- they are too severe and they don't give useful information, as this expert says.
Severe is an under statement. These are IN HUMANE tactics
And they’re extremely counterproductive. These torture methods BREAKS the human psyche leading to mental illnesses such as split personality and psychosis.
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There is no new information that could possibly be gotten from him at this point in time after he was captured in 2002... 20 year old info is useless now. He shouldn't be tortured anymore as nothing can be gained from it.
On top of that, the CIA admitted he wasn't even a member of Al Qaeda nor was involved in 9/11 or any AQ attacks on American targets. He wasn't even a fighter.
Why not charge him if they have something? IUf they have nothing to charge him with this is wrong.
They haven’t charged him because he hasn’t committed a crime
Because that government always seek pretexts to do whatever of their interests, no matter if that is against human rights, or senseless.
Yeah, what they accused Zubaydah of wasn't even true.
Oh God
If he didn't hate America then. He does then
*He does now
I'm sure you all will rethink your compassion for him if one of your family was a victim of 9/11. At least he's still alive... innocent 9/11 victims had no chance like he had now
gonna say its part of the forever part
The CIA is the one, Rizzo the attorney said that they never interrogated anyone. So again why did they feel they had to go HARD on the very first high value detainee WHO WAS ALREADY TALKING TO ALI SOUFAN but Ali Soufan was FBI and Tenet hated that.
CIA screwed up there were 2 Abu Zaibadas.
Water boarding was typical torture. Personally, I wanna scream! Guantanamo, Cuba .... prison was available after 9/11, as a military prison. Jails like this one are horrendous places. It’s not US ....justice. It’s a dark, horrible jail. Yup!
It's exactly where these people belong !!!
The land of the free ain't so free... but hey atleast its the home of the brave
This comment section is sick. This man is innocent and the CIA knows it. They haven’t charged him with a crime because he isn’t a terrorist. You people are truly sick and easily manipulated.
“Do you feel a connection to him?” What?
What..??? Why so surprised..?
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don't get into terrorism it's not a good business.
he isnt a terrorist! if he was then in 20 years USA would have charge him! But they cant coz he is innocent!
@@Regina-Phalange he 1000% is, that being said the level of torture they put him through I don’t think is acceptable. You become just as bad as them. FYI the night he was captured he was in a room with a bomb maker and they were working on a bomb planned for an all girls school, and he admitted to the government he wanted to kill Israelis he just got outvoted and had to participate in American terrorism
@@PlutoTheGod Watched non propaganda sources to know. Even CIA confirmed he had nothing to do with anything!
and just for the sake of argument if we are to believe what you are saying is true, why is he, 20 years later, still not charge with A Single Crime?? Why?
if the evidence was there, USA Government wouldnt waste a single minute to charge him, yet he got no charges!
@@PlutoTheGodnone of that is true. If it was, why haven’t they charged him with any crimes? The CIA have admitted he is INNOCENT. Fake news.
@@PlutoTheGodHe literally isn't, the interview you referenced has been shown to be coerced, just like the testimony that initially put him on the map was coerced.
And then Americans complain why they are so hated on that side of the world
Another🇺🇸USA💔Shame!
Free him
how much justin bieber music has this poor guy been tortured with
They kept him awake with loud music and poured some water on his face poor guy
hahaha you think that's all?
Have you lost your humanity and care only for yourself?
You have absolutely no idea how humiliating torture can be and you arrogantly reply like you get some kind of joy and satisfaction out of it!
You need your own wing in a psychiatric facility if you stink'think that way, tbh.
How old are you and do you own a gun?
NO NO NO there was more and disgusting those are the 12 things the psychiatrists came up with per Jose. He says just like you Boo Hoo. But go ahead and REALLY read and research what exactly was done you fool. If that was all they did what you said why would they DESTROY THE TAPES. Well in Forever Prison and Manhunt they tell you why. Right from Jose's mouth head of CTC they were too graphic and THE WORLD would NOT have stood for it. Read what Jane Mayer said The Dark Side.
Do some research you idiot. That is so insulting.
That is what I said to the fool. I have done the research. When Jose said it was too much "Detroy the Tapes" well you know it wasn't just THAT.@@nixiontm
If you hurt my family, friends, neighbors, countrymen, then everything and anything is on the table. The victors write the rules and history. Humanity and human rights were obtained for prolonged period not because of kindness and generosity. And they will be taken away if force is not matched with overwhelming and unambiguous forces.
The force of mentally ill man who has been crippled by 209 years of torture who the CIA admitted in 2005 didn't know anything and was likely innocent?
The difference is that this man is innocent. You don’t care that an innocent man and thousands more were senselessly tortured and some were beaten to death? Whilst the scum who did it are all free and even praised for it.
HE IS INNOCENT
you're disgusting. using this as an excuse to hurt innocent people because of senseless rage. sick.
I have no empathy
A man that has severe brain damage and was actually working as a greeter at a camp that was an opposition to the terrorist organization and fought against the soviets and on top of all that was never officially charged with any crime or has any links to bin laden yeah alright..
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Your terrorist government the United States killed 1 million Iraqis for what a few Saudi Arabians did with 911
Why? The difference is that this man is innocent. You don’t care that an innocent man and thousands more were senselessly tortured and some were beaten to death? Whilst the scum who did it are all free and even praised for it.
That makes you a monster. He's innocent and you're not phased that he was tortured for 20 years.
No Mercy
Next time someone tells me how barbaric Nation XYZ is, I’ll know just what to show them
People who tourture will pay In the end
Americans do 20 years all the time.
Seriously though lol
Yeah but it’s Guantanamo bay
@@kadenelijah9329 would you rather be a Pelican Bay?
yeah millions and the numbers going to increase by the number of "patriots" involved.
Without being charged?
His sins have been forgiven if he has been through all that
Hold him forever!!!
For what? He hasn’t done anything wrong.
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With the countless lives lost as a result of 911…it’s really hard for me to sympathize. Outside of the tactical failures…I just don’t have it in me.
You could say the same in Iraq and Afghanistan 🇦🇫 millions of people killed imagine how they feel
Dude your country has probably killed tens of thousands of innocent people with a guy using an Xbox controller to drop bombs on villages with a frond just to kill 1 person who is MAYBE a terrorist
Here’s what I would say to that while I agree I was a bad in the Taliban are evil people it gives the CIA latitude to use these tactics well now that they’re illegal they can’t use these particular tactics but they can still use the phrase terrorist and place it on anybody that they deem to be a political dissident and so by doing that it allows them them being the political party in charge to take their opposition and claim them as terrorist like you were saying in the Biden administration with these So called right wing extremist who don’t want CRT taught in classrooms or are some of the Jan six perpetrators some of whom are 60 or 70 years old who simply walk through the rope line and who are being held in definitely in a DC federal prison in so that’s really the problem is it that you can’t give the CIA or the government the power to do something because it never goes away I would I mean if you can give me one example in which the government gave themselves power and then after a couple years said that didn’t work and let’s get rid of it in fact it’s always been the opposite whenever a new enemy arises or one dies they take They take extraordinary powers and use them against the “new enemy” who may not be terrorist in your eyes but in the opposition to HR I mean when you’re calling your opponents Nazis or insurrectionist why not house those guys indefinitely and treat them as terrorist even though they haven’t been charged with that that’s the problem it’s not that some bad things happen to some bad people one time and it will never happen again it’s that it will happen again and this time it might be against you it just depends on who’s in charge and who is the opposition.
@@kat2567 I agree with your sentiment overall that the drone program under Obama was broad excuse me was over broad and killed a lot of civilians although they did kill some bad guys that we deem who are bad but the problem I have with your tweet or reply is that it’s some guy with an Xbox controller who has no limits or constraints these are trained drone pilots with extraordinary equipmentAnd anytime there is a go ahead and eat it has to be you know confirmed by the president and the secretary defense the DNI and the conference I think Obama called it the terrors Tuesday event which they would pick one person and decide to execute these are not just some random people with an Xbox controller these are men and women of the military who are highly trained who I have to get extraordinary green lights so to speak to initiate an attack it’s not like they just fly around over Pakistan door rack no longer Afghanistan and just start drowning people. But again let me reinstate that I agree with your message it is crazy to just say hey we think there’s a bad guy here we have a bout a 50-50 percent chance that he’s there so go ahead and Jason bomb that you know Hot or town and will go in and see if we got them or not and that’s poor that’s poor decision making us poor leader ship but don’t put that on the guys flying drones put that on the top brass put that on the generals in the 3*4 stars president and secretary who make those decisions because ultimately it’s those guys who gave the green light. If I remember correctly it’s five times in which a flight operator has to request permission do I have the greenlight do I have the greenlight and then after the fifth time then they say OK execute and then they drop the bomb it’s not like they just go oh we think somebody’s here so let’s just go blow them up that’s not really how it goes but again let me say I agree it’s over broad it’s not narrow enough it’s not rigorous enough any one of those things you wanna say is perfectly fine I just think that your aim is on the wrong group of people it should be higher up if not you should not be that pilot with an Xbox controller.
@@Jchasser I don't disagree that these men are trained. But here is a quote from the Washington Post: In 2018, the U.S. Navy's USS Colorado submarine went into service equipped with an Xbox controller to operate its periscope. In 2014, Xbox controllers were used to control Boeing's High Energy Laser Mobile Demonstrator in a test for the U.S. military". They now use more appropriate controllers, but in the end it is a guy sitting in a room bombing villages. I never said he or she is a fault, I actually posted my own comment saying US presidents are just warlords. When a "bad guy" bombed in a building with innocent people who would have NEVER been radicalized up until they see the mangled bodies of their fathers, sisters, mothers and brothers, that's how knew terrorists are created. So you killed one "bad guy" but then created 5 more. 9/11 does not excuse the US military from the body count they have racked up. Not to mentioned most terrosts are from Saudi Arabia, i don't see drones flying over there though
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This dude comments this on every ABC video no matter the context. Hilariously pathetic decrepit old boomer. A sad life many Americans live, his family has left him behind with his brain rot ..
He was evil so am good with this
He wasn't
no he wasn’t. he never had any direct link with al-qaeda. the us will pay for its actions, and i hope to see the downfall of its imperialism sooner rather than later.
@@jayesse9053 You'll have to wait for russia and china to fall to see an ''end'' to imperialism
@@jayesse9053 you smoking rocks with him that's why
He has never been charged with anything and they never found any evidence that linked him with a terror cell. He was, in fact, only ever found at a camp for vigilantes that wanted to fight Al Qaeda. Yet he has been detained and tortured for 20 years.
20 years? That's normal in an American prison system
but in American Prison people are protected from Torture!
It sucks that these people that made this film attempt to demonize our servicemen and women whe the cast sympathy toward the true evils. God Bless America. If you don't want to be water boarded, don't be a terrorist.
Abu Zubaydah isn't a terrorist. He was never charged with anything. Sorry that you see the true statement "The CIA commited unspeakable crimes againt humanity" as an attack on America or whater.
He did nothing wrong WTF?
He wasn't. The CIA never found anything that linkeed him to any terror cell. The "brave men and women" that tortured him are closer to terrorists than he ever was.
God bless America🤣🤣🤣 yea right…. God have mercy on America
well he wasnt a terrorist! SO you point in invalid! If service to America is to torture innocent brown Muslim men then say it how it is.