The trap I fall mostly into that is "setting unrealistic expectations" that was soo realtable fo me 😄 Well,Good job 👍you are doing great ❤️🌼❤️👏 I wanted to say one more thing that you understand these things really well like what schools do with our mind .. that is just nothing but a bitter fact 💯 I am happy that there are some people who believe that that's wrong..! 👍
In my experience it's better to follow a curriculum from a credible institution for broad courses i.e. Compute Science, MTCs, Data Science. Then self study on individual topics like Object Oriented Design or Introductory Stat
Procrastination for myself is the biggest trap, the moment my mind starts to say no is a problem for me because I'm stubborn. Hard work is required as an adult because of brain plasticity for the average person, so I have to focus and work harder. Great video!
A hack for brain plasticity is the flood and low tide method. It's where you flood yourself with information in 1.5 hours then you take a nap. Then you review what you learned. When you sleep even for 30 minutes your brain starts replaying what you just did 4x speed so you get tons of repetition.
I need to preface this statement though, if you are autistic/ high functioning autistic this strategy can be very dangerous because it can cause you to spiral.
The reasons why you procrastinate are more important to be inspected, maybe your expectation is too high or maybe you wanna get the result of success too quickly, both of which are the problems that I am facing. Hope you have got out of the traps.
Traps: 1. Falling into Depth-first learning rather than exploring Breadth-first learning (1:32) 2. Obsessing over finding the perfect learning resource (4:23) 3. Having/setting unrealistic expectations (7:52) 4. Overcompensating - when falling behind some will say "I'll just make up for lost time next week". (9:50) 5. Focusing on the wrong metric (10:49) Another trap I'd say should be added in is expecting to gain new knowledge by just listening intently or even just by taking notes. Some people have insane memory but for me and plenty others if I'm not using a new skill at least semi-regularly it will get stale and eventually be lost. Take notes but don't just organize notes based off meetings, textbook chapters, lectures, or videos. Base the note organization off concepts so they are easier to reference at a later date. My favorite tool is a vscode extension called "Dendron". It's tricky to learn at first but once you are comfortable it's really powerful (not affiliated with them at all, I just love it). This has allowed me to read documentation, watch videos, read books, capture that info, and not worry about holding it in my mind. I can then dedicate that mental focus on solving the problems at hand instead of remembering the different SQL Aggregate functions and their parameters. But I'm also not stuck referencing a massive textbook or long video to retrieve that info.
wow I realised im doing all of this? I'm really tensed because of this, do have any advice/suggestions to overcome this. like for eg im doing my astrophysics master and im from a maths bachelors , so I keep going into the depths rabit hole in physics. Also, just curious does everyone go thru this, or if only some do, why do they this, whats the human psyche behind this.
@@lynxz9471 So lets pretend we are studying a textbook on sql queries. The first chapter is probably going to be an intro into reading data, maybe how to display certain columns. Chapter 2 will be about creating data. That will introduce you into writing queries that add rows to the table. Later in the book say chapter 10 we start doing aggregate functions on the data we received when using the skills we learned in chapter 1. If you were to take notes based off chapter You would have notes labeled like "Chapter 1: Reading data", "Chapter 2: Creating Data", "Chapter 10: Aggregate Functions". I'm saying instead of all those notes living in their own little islands, form relationships between each other. I'd create a node in dendron labeled "reading data", one branch from that node would explain reading data while another branch within the same node explains aggregate functions. Now my notes become a graph where they share an adjacent node and creates a relationship between the two!
Another problem that is very relatable for me and that has not been mentioned in this video(probably because it's not so common overall) is the struggle with picking something you want to study and sticking with it for a significant period of time. There is an enormous and diverse set of interesting topics to explore in this world, so many interesting books, articles, videos, etc. That just feels like picking a single coin from a chest filled with an abundance of various treasures. And even if I start learning something exact and find it enjoying, I am still likely to get interrupted by something else that I find worthy of attention too.
Is it not true that most people dont even do ONE THING each day? How about just doing a SINGLE THING each day for an hour and thats it. 7 hours a week, 7 more than before and 7 more than many others. Suddenly you may accomplish SOMETHING if not everything or nothing (which is where you are now).
This hit very close to home. All the traps apply to me but the depth-first trap was especially eye-opening. I've fallen into this so often and I always notice it too late, when I'm completely overwhelmed by the amount of material that I don't understand to the point that I'm completely discouraged and just stop learning altogether. I feel like I've always known what the problem was but I never thought about it in such simple terms. Will definitely make the trap easier to notice and avoid. Thank you so much for the golden content!
I DEFINITELY fall into the depth first trap way too much!!! I was stuck on a section explaining what JSON objects were and just did not get it but was just so stubborn and wouldnt do it. When i switched to a breadth-first approach I came across JSON objects much more naturally and OMG it was so much easier to pick it up. GREAT TIP! Im going to focus more on this breadth-first approach because my stubbornness is still there 😆 Great video Tina thanks!
This was incredible!!! I just graduated but I still want to keep learning and improving skills on my own. The things you brought up are exactly what I do to myself every time I try to start my own projects/challenges. I didn't even know they were common pit falls - the breadth vs depth issue is one I always fall for. And I waste so much time and get overwhelmed looking for the best resources. This was the perfect thing for me to watch. Thank you so much!!!
2:32 … totally mee because I definitely will keep hoping around until I get it then after while Im lost .. ughhh gotta get better. This video is helping me understand why I do things for perfection
Being overwhelmed with choice is 100% where I have been the last few weeks. I keep telling myself the best program is whatever one I finish, but it’s hard not to look at other things that keep popping up and wondering if they would be better. It’s such a time suck.
Thank you Tina, in the first 3 minutes of this video you've summed up my major Trap: trying to know EVERYTHING of a certain topic. I really needed this reminder for my 2023 goals!
I just met your channel today, with this video and I'm really glad to it! I started my Data Scientist career last year when I was unemployed. With a little baby who was just 1 year, I spend too much time working and studying to reach my goals. I became anxious and had some humor difficults. I've never understand before what was happening exactly, then I reached the point number #3. Thank you so much by this video, I'ts really important for those who wants to go deeper into Data Science roles!
Tina, thank so much for your topic today. I felt like i just had one on one counseling with you. You know all my feelings for my study. Working full time and having 11 th grade son with booth camp course for data Analytics have not planned well. I felt all of your pin point. I was so discourage many times, but then told myself finish booth camp is not a final goal. Not giving up , knowing and understanding what i have to learn for the career is most important. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge .
Something that I've found pretty useful while learning is cheat sheets. Human memory can't hold every single fact or command, however when all these concepts and topics are condensed into cheat sheets you can see one of those and remember pretty fast what it was all about!
I get frustrated when I find it difficult to grasp concepts that were easy to grasp at a younger age and that fuels my procrastination and the ADHD makes matters worse. This makes me hop from one concept to another and end up with lots of garbage in my mind that don't connect. I'm not even as good a gamer as I used to be. Now I end up being miserable with the belief that I'm not good at anything. Really sets me back on my CS path
Study traps 1.Breath vs Depth: you don’t have to know everything deeply, just the necessary. 3:06 Breath Fisrt approach 2. Obsessing over finding the perfect resources. Avoid paradox of choice. As Nike slogan JUST DO IT. 3. Having/setting unrealistic expectations: the solution is to set an amount of hours that you think would fit and reduce it by half. 30 hours, I’m the beginning (30/2 = 15 hours per week) 4. Overcompensating: if that week we couldn’t make it with the hours we set as a goal, do not do more hours next week in order to “ keep” the consistency. 5. Focusing in the wrong metric: you feel dumb > focusing in the wrong metric. Instead, focus on, just putting in the effort & time.
I definitely get stuck in the depth-first trap. That is probably why I always feel like I never know enough. You made a good point about learning and then implementing. By implementing you will be able to see exactly where to manoeuvre next. Even though I know this logically I still make the same mistake. I've developed a bad habit of becoming very rigid in my approach.
i have been experiencing all of these combined in the past few days especially the feeling of not making progress. im really glad that I stumbled across your video!! it helps me become more aware of what ive been thinking, feeling, and how it affects me.
This is exactly what I felt in the coding and trapped me in Depth-first learning part. I dug thru a rabbit hole which is overwhelming and led me to give up easily. Thank you for this video! I'll try again learning through my way.
The Depth First trap is ALWAYS catching me!😂😭 I was talking about it to someone at work yesterday. It's nice to have a name for it, so I can more easily recognize when I start to get pulled into a rabbit hole. I also like Time Input as a metric. Regardless of the specific output, if you consistently put more time in, you'll get more results. Maybe Consistency or "Streaks" would be another good metric. When I first got serious about learning to code, I saw how 5-7 days in a row of studying/practicing 30 minutes/day got me MUCH better results than trying to spend one 5-7 hour block on a Saturday or Sunday.
Yup.! Fell into all the traps mentioned... Wish I saw these when I was about to start self-learning. Now that I already understood how that works, I can only realise, I've been working well. Thanks for making the video anyway, hoping it would go well for everybody else too. To that everybody-Wishing you all, best of luck for your self-learning journey.
I have the frost problem. Until I saw your video, I didn’t realise that I had actually given up on a lot of study goals because of this habit. And being a new mom has taught me to take things slowly and just trust the process. I have commitment issues as well, because the minute I disagree with some material, I ditch the whole course. I guess I’ll have to give it another shot and then looks for newer material. Thanks!
You are so true ....I have the same experiences .....😇 "Go wisely and slowly , those who rush stumble and fall" "If we stress by doing something, that means we don't know how to do it or it is not a suitable work for us.....so we should find ways to work joyfully"
For me, not being alone in the self-learning process by joining a community of people who are also eager to learn and commited to self-studying helps lots! That’s one of the reasons why I’ve recently joined 42 computer science/coding school. I’m in the Basque Country campus, northern Spain. It’s amazing! /thx as always tina, one of my fav yt content creators at the moment❤
Hey! We have a 42 in my city too and I would like to attend some day. I was wondering if it takes a lot of time or you can attend with a full-time job/university?
Revisited this video and just saw your reply! Well, it is possible to have full-time job/university while also carrying out 42 cursus. Must admit it is challeging though. You should definitely try and see if you get to manage! In any case, I would recommend focusing full time on 42 if possible, at least for the 26 days piscine so as to make sure you actually get to be a student. Best wishes!
These traps hit home so hard for me as an undergraduate, can't thank you enough for this video, can't wait to tackle all these traps and slay the hell out of all the subjects that I have to take on in this new semester !!!
im currently have toned down my self study with music theory because i realised that i have fallen into the trap of trying to understand everything to its core and yes, the text book im having did a great job at providing ALL the info i need but it is simply too detailed and not necessarily required for my level of musicianship (beginner) . my teacher also said that whatever i learn in theory must be immediately apply/use in my playing or else i'll forget because it is simply too much to remember and that's why my teacher only teaches me some theory every time i made it to the next grade in the syllabus (grade 3) like major and minor scales/chords, diminished and augmented and heir formulas in 30 minutes...whereas when i tried to study that topic by myself it took me 3 hours just to be summed up perfectly by my teacher in 30 minutes including exercises for me to play around with...its great to have a teacher to guide you on what to learn because whatever i want to learn, i ask him and he will tell me what its for and does it related to my original goal/style (classical, romantic) which allow me to determine whether or not i want to dig deep into that concept to understabd it and further improve the main skills (sight-readings, finger positions, relations of notes) or not or just deep enough so i know what it is and be able to provide an accurate yet not so complicated answer it if one of my students ever asked.
As an emerging data analyst, I often struggle with the same issues. I wonder if it's due to cultural upbringing - coming from an Asian background, my parents emphasized the importance of studying hard and achieving success. This can make it difficult to just "do it" and may lead to anxiety. Your video was helpful in reminding me to revisit this path and try to find peace with myself. Thank you for the helpful tips and information!
It could just also be a brain thing. I'm not Asian, I had a similar upbringing, but it also turns out I'm autistic (didn't find out until late in life). My own BRAIN gets in my way a lot. It's mad annoying. 😭
Thank you so much!!!!!!! I never realised i was trapped..... I have been aiming to be a Business analyst but as you mentioned i was trapped in depth-first trap......i have this habit of perfectly preparing for anything. you just solved my half problem.... Thanks again 💖💖💖
Ma'am, what are the topics in mathematics one needs to be good at to be a BA, and how to do that, if you are not good in mathematics? Also, if one is self-taught.
@@atuldwivedi3959 I'm into Business analysis not Business analytics... So if you are speaking about Business analytics i Don't have much idea but what i know is that you should ve good at technical stuff python or sql and all and if it's business analysis you just need to take a basic course of business analysis from any institute they will teach you the basic concepts and you can start finding a job or internship to start your career.... Regarding maths i don't think either of them requires it.
@@ushakumawath Thank you so much for reaching out. And yes business analysis is different from business analytics. In business analytics, one needs to require a good understanding of mathematical chapters namely, linear algebra, permutation and combination, probability, and statistics along with python, SQL, power bi, excel, etc.
What a wonderful moment at the end of the day i found myself this video. Every trap you mention in your video is what I got into and although realizing those prolems, I still can't find possible solutions and keep falling deep into the regular genre. Thank you so much for your video!
Great video. Self learning is tough, which is why I started an online masters programme for the structure. On my own, I definitely fall into the first trap. I've got so many notes on things I want to look up 😅
Unrealistic expectations hit me hard this quarter. 11 masters credits in quantitative health sciences/clinical research Got married in August and got a new remote job with more responsibility. I was BURNT OUT. Stressed out and incredibly unhappy through November until the semesters end. Lesson learned. I’ll be much more careful with the things I agree to take on. Feeling so much better now. Happy new year.
I've definitely fallen into the depth-first learning trap. This can happen easily even when you try a breadth-first approach (e.g., by taking a Foundations of ... course) because the more you learn, the more you realize just how much you still have to learn. I think the best way to avoid this trap is something both you and Ken Jee have recommended: learn just enough to do a project and then go from there. The perfect-resource trap is another one that gets me. To that, I say there is no one-size-fits-all source; the best source is the one you stick with. That said, I think the user rating system on sites like Udemy are generally reliable.
My biggest problems seem to be: 1. Breadth vs depth 2. Best resources I will make sure to 1st cover and understand things that I can in my course first. Then start sorting out tougher concepts, do better problems and gradually get better. Also, in 1st reading I will heed your advice "pick any top resource and go through it, then u can switch later". Thanks❤
Tina thank you for highlighting these traps and how to deal with it, I was frustrated and these tips and hints give me a push to continue. Thank you again ❤
I wish I could show this video to my past self. I struggled for so many years until I hit bottom and had a big burnout. I'm still managing to learn my way into self study and anxiety but I've been trying to find a healthier approach to this. I loved this video!! Thank you so much to share it!
Study traps 1.Breath vs Depth: you don’t have to know everything deeply, just the necessary. 3:06 Breath Fisrt approach 2. Obsessing over finding the perfect resources. Avoid paradox of choice. As Nike slogan JUST DO IT.
Thankyou for this! You really helped me to get out of my cocoon of procrastinating, actually i wanted to learn mo technology but i cant start doing it cause i dont know where to start what resources should i use and then its just getting worse, its like a cycle worry-procrastinating-worry - procrastinating and so on
as soon as you explained over compensating it was a mirror and I understood the root cause of my failures I related so much I will make sure I wont fall into this trap again
Instant subscriber. I am a student advisor to college students. and I am also on my self paced learning journey, taking on IT and computer science subjects so I can learn more about something we use on a daily basis. I had to limit social media and actually block in even 2 afternoons or evenings a week for my studies so I can work, live life and focus on hobbies. By putting in these blocks, I have no choice but to spend 100% of energy towards the subject, even if it is spending the whole two hours working on a problem, i know i've made some sort of progress. thank you for this video!
This is gold. I've been falling into the first trap for so long and I didn't even know it was stalling me that much. I've been feeling like it takes me forever to learn something new.
Thank you for this video. I'm trying to focus in order to get enough skills to apply for an entry-level Data science job; and sometimes, I feel overwhelmed by the number of options.
To add to your points about the "Breath vs depth trap" the most difficult thing about that trap is when you need to decide how deep you need to go in some new knowldege or when to escape the trap. For example, just right now, I'm trying to study a way to connect to databases in python for data science, I already know the "easy pandas way" (pandas.read_sql function) but want to learn the more complicated one, the "sqlalchemy way". And the big issue is that when you look for the documentation of sqlalchemy you immediately notice its depth all the way, so the only way to learn is diving right away and hope you don't lose much time finding what you need.
The very standard way of connecting is something like the way python connects to sqlite. Create a connection and get a cursor with some options maybe. Use that cursor to execute some sql and then iterate over the results. It's like that everywhere (mongo, redis, etc).
@@mephisto212 In my case, I have an R programming background, I'm used to do the SQL queries in the "pandas way" more than the "connection-cursor-iteration" that you mention, so is a little difficult to wrap my thinking around that. In fact, I decided that the analysis I'm doing right now is simple enough to use only the "pandas way" and is working fine. But I still need to learn when to use the second one because I'm sure the "pandas way" is not enough in 98% of the cases.
Tina, I binge watched your videos for the past 2 days. I've never seen a more relatable RUclips channel. Keep up the good content, and happy new year!! ❤️
This video is very important for me. You cleared up everything I started to have doubts with and said such things can be normal and how to avoid it. Thank you so much.
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Thanks a million! I have fallen in almost all of the mentioned traps, and... This video helped me to calm down about it, and start doing things with a bit other approaches and more cold head.
honestly thankful to the youtube algorithm gods for suggesting this to me 4 months later but this is the most concise, analytical and well summarised video I've yet to see on this topic - earned a sub and I'm recommending this to everyone I know !!!
I have definitely being a victim to depth-first learning approach time and time again 😂, it is always so deceiving and easy to fall into this trap, some time ago I was learning Laravel (a PHP framework) and got stuck at a concept called dependency injection, I went into a rabbit hole with trying to dive deep to understand this concept and it stunted my progress, the breadth first approach is really just better. Thank you Tina!
How so clearly you know every thing about me. I thought it was just my problem and I am the only one in rabbit hole everyone else know how to do and what
Thanks Tina! This was much needed! Hit a brick wall self-studying for the AP exams.... I've placed too high of a pressure on myself due to the stakes at hand... 😮💨
I think after 2 years into randomize self-study as a college student I have learned that sitting down and actually saying I will study for x number of hours generally doesn't work. Usually to fight against my procrastination, I force myself to stay after classes or free time in that day to take better notes of my last course and finish those that I haven't been able to complete then when the spontaneous feeling of wanting to study kicks in or maybe week before my test angst kicks in, I can take out the notes and just look over them cause I was able to retain a lot of info while making them. It's tedious work from past me that future me is so grateful for after binging through shows instead of studying. edit: obviously this differs depending on what you're studying, as an accounting student, I have found that this method helps me a lot on the theoretical side of it but on other days it's usually a lot of numbers which require daily or weekly revision but that's second nature for me.
this is the video i never knew i needed.Thanks a lot for ur advices . Now i know why i am not improving after 2 months of self-studying. All the traps that u mentioned are exactly what i was falling into. After today i will rearrange everything things to continue self-studying.
Congrats for the great work you have been doing Tina! It really helps a lot of people (me included)!! I believe that recognizing that we are just starting and not finishing stuff is really hard. Specially because starting a lot of new projects brings us a sensation of "doing something". Thank You for sharing with us!
This explains SO MUCH of why I can study and study a subject but give up when I get overwhelmed. I'm also on the spectrum so rabbit holes are where I live. 😆Thanks for this great video!
Tina, your videos are the only place I ever bother commenting and that has got to do with your fine-line-walking between cutthecrap achievable guidance and the absolute friendly demeanor with which you present yourself. Lots of luck with your channel !
I found way to not procrastinate, i use parental protection software on my pc, no internet until 18:00 sometimes im so bored without dopamine stimulation that I do work instead
Thank you for your video! I definitely fell into the Depth-first learnings far too many times. I love physics and I love to explore the topic to much deeper extend than what is usually covered in an undergraduate courses. It's time-inefficient and misleading. However I do notice that my understanding of the topics are much more thorough and it comes out much more naturally. I guess these are the perks of it.
- better go for breadth instead of depth at first. It helps in not getting lost in a rabbit hole as you already have a faint idea of what the subject demands as a whole. - stick to one source but don't be too rigid to not change your source if you don't fully understand it that way. - know your vices by giving it time. Just watching this video might help recognise some of your vices but it'll really sink in only when you've been through it.
Yes i have been through all the traps but i manage to get rid of them over the time. I thought that i am the only one who was facing these problems . You did an amazing job btw
The fact that I can relate to every point is not even surprising me... I still need to practice how to not run after every concept coz they will eventually make sense later, when I get the bigger picture.
speaking about cutting in half time you want to spend learning something new, when I'm doing stuff like that I always feel like I'm not doing enough, and wasting my time on the less valuable things like rest I don't know how get rid of it...
Hey Tina This video is very helpful for me since I've been doing self-studying for about a year now and I keep finding myself in the traps that you mentioned. I always end up burnt out and exhausted. Definitely re-watching this video again later on. Also , wishing you a happy new year.
Thank you for this amazing video. It helps me a lot on my road of self-studying. I have stepped on all those traps stated in the video before. As a perfectionist, I always force myself to do my best in any aspects such as I must find the most perfect resources, and if I do not know some concepts, I will force myself to learn it in-depth which causes wasting of time on the knowledge which actually 'useless' for what I am studying. I have only realised all these mistakes after watching this video. 😀
Yes, diving too deep too fast is not a good idea. Starting to practice on a very small practical case is a good way to identify your priorities. I learn coding and I will never stop learning as you never see the end of it. But, personal and professional projects are the best way I found to identify new areas where I can improve and to share experience with others.
You just explained me throughout the whole vid. I thought i am dumb af and cant commit to anything. Now i still think i am dumb af but its bcz of the pressure i put to myself. Will try the 2/1 technique now. I hope it will work. Thank you so much for giving tips that act work instead of "Glow up goooorl"
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The trap I fall mostly into that is "setting unrealistic expectations" that was soo realtable fo me 😄
Well,Good job 👍you are doing great ❤️🌼❤️👏
I wanted to say one more thing that you understand these things really well like what schools do with our mind .. that is just nothing but a bitter fact 💯
I am happy that there are some people who believe that that's wrong..! 👍
In my experience it's better to follow a curriculum from a credible institution for broad courses i.e. Compute Science, MTCs, Data Science.
Then self study on individual topics like Object Oriented Design or Introductory Stat
Procrastination for myself is the biggest trap, the moment my mind starts to say no is a problem for me because I'm stubborn. Hard work is required as an adult because of brain plasticity for the average person, so I have to focus and work harder. Great video!
I am kinda addicted to moba games. So I play the first 2/3 of the day and turn on my laptop for 10 minutes and gradually increase the length
A hack for brain plasticity is the flood and low tide method. It's where you flood yourself with information in 1.5 hours then you take a nap. Then you review what you learned. When you sleep even for 30 minutes your brain starts replaying what you just did 4x speed so you get tons of repetition.
I need to preface this statement though, if you are autistic/ high functioning autistic this strategy can be very dangerous because it can cause you to spiral.
The reasons why you procrastinate are more important to be inspected, maybe your expectation is too high or maybe you wanna get the result of success too quickly, both of which are the problems that I am facing. Hope you have got out of the traps.
I'm ruining myself through procastination I'll soon go to high school year 3 I have to get myself back 😭😭
Traps:
1. Falling into Depth-first learning rather than exploring Breadth-first learning (1:32)
2. Obsessing over finding the perfect learning resource (4:23)
3. Having/setting unrealistic expectations (7:52)
4. Overcompensating - when falling behind some will say "I'll just make up for lost time next week". (9:50)
5. Focusing on the wrong metric (10:49)
Another trap I'd say should be added in is expecting to gain new knowledge by just listening intently or even just by taking notes. Some people have insane memory but for me and plenty others if I'm not using a new skill at least semi-regularly it will get stale and eventually be lost. Take notes but don't just organize notes based off meetings, textbook chapters, lectures, or videos. Base the note organization off concepts so they are easier to reference at a later date.
My favorite tool is a vscode extension called "Dendron". It's tricky to learn at first but once you are comfortable it's really powerful (not affiliated with them at all, I just love it). This has allowed me to read documentation, watch videos, read books, capture that info, and not worry about holding it in my mind. I can then dedicate that mental focus on solving the problems at hand instead of remembering the different SQL Aggregate functions and their parameters. But I'm also not stuck referencing a massive textbook or long video to retrieve that info.
wow I realised im doing all of this?
I'm really tensed because of this, do have any advice/suggestions to overcome this. like for eg im doing my astrophysics master and im from a maths bachelors , so I keep going into the depths rabit hole in physics.
Also, just curious does everyone go thru this, or if only some do, why do they this, whats the human psyche behind this.
What do you mean base the note organization off concepts?
@@lynxz9471 So lets pretend we are studying a textbook on sql queries. The first chapter is probably going to be an intro into reading data, maybe how to display certain columns. Chapter 2 will be about creating data. That will introduce you into writing queries that add rows to the table. Later in the book say chapter 10 we start doing aggregate functions on the data we received when using the skills we learned in chapter 1.
If you were to take notes based off chapter You would have notes labeled like "Chapter 1: Reading data", "Chapter 2: Creating Data", "Chapter 10: Aggregate Functions". I'm saying instead of all those notes living in their own little islands, form relationships between each other. I'd create a node in dendron labeled "reading data", one branch from that node would explain reading data while another branch within the same node explains aggregate functions. Now my notes become a graph where they share an adjacent node and creates a relationship between the two!
@@Nonsense116 oh thanks, that makes sense
Tqsm dear
Another problem that is very relatable for me and that has not been mentioned in this video(probably because it's not so common overall) is the struggle with picking something you want to study and sticking with it for a significant period of time. There is an enormous and diverse set of interesting topics to explore in this world, so many interesting books, articles, videos, etc. That just feels like picking a single coin from a chest filled with an abundance of various treasures. And even if I start learning something exact and find it enjoying, I am still likely to get interrupted by something else that I find worthy of attention too.
THIS
@@toriel5695 yeeeeeeees
Is it not true that most people dont even do ONE THING each day? How about just doing a SINGLE THING each day for an hour and thats it. 7 hours a week, 7 more than before and 7 more than many others. Suddenly you may accomplish SOMETHING if not everything or nothing (which is where you are now).
Try to be a satisfier, rather than being a perfectionist..
Yes yes yes yes yes YES
This hit very close to home. All the traps apply to me but the depth-first trap was especially eye-opening. I've fallen into this so often and I always notice it too late, when I'm completely overwhelmed by the amount of material that I don't understand to the point that I'm completely discouraged and just stop learning altogether. I feel like I've always known what the problem was but I never thought about it in such simple terms. Will definitely make the trap easier to notice and avoid. Thank you so much for the golden content!
I DEFINITELY fall into the depth first trap way too much!!!
I was stuck on a section explaining what JSON objects were and just did not get it but was just so stubborn and wouldnt do it.
When i switched to a breadth-first approach I came across JSON objects much more naturally and OMG it was so much easier to pick it up.
GREAT TIP! Im going to focus more on this breadth-first approach because my stubbornness is still there 😆
Great video Tina thanks!
This was incredible!!! I just graduated but I still want to keep learning and improving skills on my own. The things you brought up are exactly what I do to myself every time I try to start my own projects/challenges. I didn't even know they were common pit falls - the breadth vs depth issue is one I always fall for. And I waste so much time and get overwhelmed looking for the best resources. This was the perfect thing for me to watch. Thank you so much!!!
Me too . I've spent hours finding the best lecture to study a chapter which can be dono in 2hrs or so ..this is insane
2:32 … totally mee because I definitely will keep hoping around until I get it then after while
Im lost .. ughhh gotta get better. This video is helping me understand why I do things for perfection
Being overwhelmed with choice is 100% where I have been the last few weeks. I keep telling myself the best program is whatever one I finish, but it’s hard not to look at other things that keep popping up and wondering if they would be better. It’s such a time suck.
There is no "better". There's ones that work for you and ones that don't.
This perfectly articulates the struggles that I’ve had with self-study. Gonna share with my self-study buddies. Thank you for this video!!!
Thank you Tina, in the first 3 minutes of this video you've summed up my major Trap: trying to know EVERYTHING of a certain topic. I really needed this reminder for my 2023 goals!
I just met your channel today, with this video and I'm really glad to it! I started my Data Scientist career last year when I was unemployed. With a little baby who was just 1 year, I spend too much time working and studying to reach my goals. I became anxious and had some humor difficults. I've never understand before what was happening exactly, then I reached the point number #3. Thank you so much by this video, I'ts really important for those who wants to go deeper into Data Science roles!
Tina, thank so much for your topic today. I felt like i just had one on one counseling with you. You know all my feelings for my study. Working full time and having 11 th grade son with booth camp course for data Analytics have not planned well. I felt all of your pin point. I was so discourage many times, but then told myself finish booth camp is not a final goal. Not giving up , knowing and understanding what i have to learn for the career is most important. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge .
Something that I've found pretty useful while learning is cheat sheets. Human memory can't hold every single fact or command, however when all these concepts and topics are condensed into cheat sheets you can see one of those and remember pretty fast what it was all about!
I get frustrated when I find it difficult to grasp concepts that were easy to grasp at a younger age and that fuels my procrastination and the ADHD makes matters worse. This makes me hop from one concept to another and end up with lots of garbage in my mind that don't connect. I'm not even as good a gamer as I used to be. Now I end up being miserable with the belief that I'm not good at anything. Really sets me back on my CS path
Study traps
1.Breath vs Depth: you don’t have to know everything deeply, just the necessary.
3:06 Breath Fisrt approach
2. Obsessing over finding the perfect resources. Avoid paradox of choice.
As Nike slogan JUST DO IT.
3. Having/setting unrealistic expectations: the solution is to set an amount of hours that you think would fit and reduce it by half. 30 hours, I’m the beginning (30/2 = 15 hours per week)
4. Overcompensating: if that week we couldn’t make it with the hours we set as a goal, do not do more hours next week in order to “ keep” the consistency.
5. Focusing in the wrong metric: you feel dumb > focusing in the wrong metric. Instead, focus on, just putting in the effort & time.
I definitely get stuck in the depth-first trap. That is probably why I always feel like I never know enough. You made a good point about learning and then implementing. By implementing you will be able to see exactly where to manoeuvre next. Even though I know this logically I still make the same mistake. I've developed a bad habit of becoming very rigid in my approach.
i have been experiencing all of these combined in the past few days especially the feeling of not making progress. im really glad that I stumbled across your video!! it helps me become more aware of what ive been thinking, feeling, and how it affects me.
This is exactly what I felt in the coding and trapped me in Depth-first learning part. I dug thru a rabbit hole which is overwhelming and led me to give up easily. Thank you for this video! I'll try again learning through my way.
The Depth First trap is ALWAYS catching me!😂😭
I was talking about it to someone at work yesterday. It's nice to have a name for it, so I can more easily recognize when I start to get pulled into a rabbit hole.
I also like Time Input as a metric. Regardless of the specific output, if you consistently put more time in, you'll get more results. Maybe Consistency or "Streaks" would be another good metric. When I first got serious about learning to code, I saw how 5-7 days in a row of studying/practicing 30 minutes/day got me MUCH better results than trying to spend one 5-7 hour block on a Saturday or Sunday.
i wasted 2 years doing all of these, i hope this year i finish off and get a job!
Yup.! Fell into all the traps mentioned... Wish I saw these when I was about to start self-learning. Now that I already understood how that works, I can only realise, I've been working well. Thanks for making the video anyway, hoping it would go well for everybody else too. To that everybody-Wishing you all, best of luck for your self-learning journey.
I have the frost problem. Until I saw your video, I didn’t realise that I had actually given up on a lot of study goals because of this habit. And being a new mom has taught me to take things slowly and just trust the process. I have commitment issues as well, because the minute I disagree with some material, I ditch the whole course. I guess I’ll have to give it another shot and then looks for newer material. Thanks!
You are so true ....I have the same experiences .....😇
"Go wisely and slowly , those who rush stumble and fall"
"If we stress by doing something, that means we don't know how to do it or it is not a suitable work for us.....so we should find ways to work joyfully"
For me, not being alone in the self-learning process by joining a community of people who are also eager to learn and commited to self-studying helps lots! That’s one of the reasons why I’ve recently joined 42 computer science/coding school. I’m in the Basque Country campus, northern Spain. It’s amazing!
/thx as always tina, one of my fav yt content creators at the moment❤
Hey! We have a 42 in my city too and I would like to attend some day. I was wondering if it takes a lot of time or you can attend with a full-time job/university?
Revisited this video and just saw your reply!
Well, it is possible to have full-time job/university while also carrying out 42 cursus. Must admit it is challeging though. You should definitely try and see if you get to manage!
In any case, I would recommend focusing full time on 42 if possible, at least for the 26 days piscine so as to make sure you actually get to be a student. Best wishes!
@@mlsaoapo thank you for the reply!
These traps hit home so hard for me as an undergraduate, can't thank you enough for this video, can't wait to tackle all these traps and slay the hell out of all the subjects that I have to take on in this new semester !!!
im currently have toned down my self study with music theory because i realised that i have fallen into the trap of trying to understand everything to its core and yes, the text book im having did a great job at providing ALL the info i need but it is simply too detailed and not necessarily required for my level of musicianship (beginner) . my teacher also said that whatever i learn in theory must be immediately apply/use in my playing or else i'll forget because it is simply too much to remember and that's why my teacher only teaches me some theory every time i made it to the next grade in the syllabus (grade 3) like major and minor scales/chords, diminished and augmented and heir formulas in 30 minutes...whereas when i tried to study that topic by myself it took me 3 hours just to be summed up perfectly by my teacher in 30 minutes including exercises for me to play around with...its great to have a teacher to guide you on what to learn because whatever i want to learn, i ask him and he will tell me what its for and does it related to my original goal/style (classical, romantic) which allow me to determine whether or not i want to dig deep into that concept to understabd it and further improve the main skills (sight-readings, finger positions, relations of notes) or not or just deep enough so i know what it is and be able to provide an accurate yet not so complicated answer it if one of my students ever asked.
the rabbit hole scenario is so real
Ms. Huang, I am so very happy that I came across your channel when I did. Thank you for this channel.
As an emerging data analyst, I often struggle with the same issues. I wonder if it's due to cultural upbringing - coming from an Asian background, my parents emphasized the importance of studying hard and achieving success. This can make it difficult to just "do it" and may lead to anxiety. Your video was helpful in reminding me to revisit this path and try to find peace with myself. Thank you for the helpful tips and information!
It could just also be a brain thing. I'm not Asian, I had a similar upbringing, but it also turns out I'm autistic (didn't find out until late in life). My own BRAIN gets in my way a lot. It's mad annoying. 😭
@@lowwastehighmelanin Same, same, same, same!
Thank you very much, because I exactly realise where I am in my self studying.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!
I never realised i was trapped..... I have been aiming to be a Business analyst but as you mentioned i was trapped in depth-first trap......i have this habit of perfectly preparing for anything. you just solved my half problem.... Thanks again 💖💖💖
Ma'am, what are the topics in mathematics one needs to be good at to be a BA, and how to do that, if you are not good in mathematics? Also, if one is self-taught.
@@atuldwivedi3959
I'm into Business analysis not Business analytics... So if you are speaking about Business analytics i Don't have much idea but what i know is that you should ve good at technical stuff python or sql and all and if it's business analysis you just need to take a basic course of business analysis from any institute they will teach you the basic concepts and you can start finding a job or internship to start your career.... Regarding maths i don't think either of them requires it.
@@ushakumawath Thank you so much for reaching out. And yes business analysis is different from business analytics. In business analytics, one needs to require a good understanding of mathematical chapters namely, linear algebra, permutation and combination, probability, and statistics along with python, SQL, power bi, excel, etc.
What a wonderful moment at the end of the day i found myself this video. Every trap you mention in your video is what I got into and although realizing those prolems, I still can't find possible solutions and keep falling deep into the regular genre. Thank you so much for your video!
Great video. Self learning is tough, which is why I started an online masters programme for the structure. On my own, I definitely fall into the first trap. I've got so many notes on things I want to look up 😅
Unrealistic expectations hit me hard this quarter.
11 masters credits in quantitative health sciences/clinical research
Got married in August and got a new remote job with more responsibility.
I was BURNT OUT. Stressed out and incredibly unhappy through November until the semesters end.
Lesson learned. I’ll be much more careful with the things I agree to take on. Feeling so much better now. Happy new year.
PS thank you for this video @TinaHuang
I've definitely fallen into the depth-first learning trap. This can happen easily even when you try a breadth-first approach (e.g., by taking a Foundations of ... course) because the more you learn, the more you realize just how much you still have to learn. I think the best way to avoid this trap is something both you and Ken Jee have recommended: learn just enough to do a project and then go from there.
The perfect-resource trap is another one that gets me. To that, I say there is no one-size-fits-all source; the best source is the one you stick with. That said, I think the user rating system on sites like Udemy are generally reliable.
I did online school for my last semester of high school, and I can totally relate to the struggles she talked about in the beginning. 🙂
My biggest problems seem to be:
1. Breadth vs depth
2. Best resources
I will make sure to 1st cover and understand things that I can in my course first. Then start sorting out tougher concepts, do better problems and gradually get better.
Also, in 1st reading I will heed your advice "pick any top resource and go through it, then u can switch later".
Thanks❤
I love the way she talks 🤩
Tina thank you for highlighting these traps and how to deal with it, I was frustrated and these tips and hints give me a push to continue. Thank you again ❤
I love that guideline for coding you gave, breadth mindset is so brilliant
You are living in my 🧠! How do you know I need this video!
Thank you so much for this video! Never felt so seen😭, you're literally a savior !!
I wish I could show this video to my past self. I struggled for so many years until I hit bottom and had a big burnout. I'm still managing to learn my way into self study and anxiety but I've been trying to find a healthier approach to this. I loved this video!! Thank you so much to share it!
Study traps
1.Breath vs Depth: you don’t have to know everything deeply, just the necessary.
3:06 Breath Fisrt approach
2. Obsessing over finding the perfect resources. Avoid paradox of choice.
As Nike slogan JUST DO IT.
Thankyou for this! You really helped me to get out of my cocoon of procrastinating, actually i wanted to learn mo technology but i cant start doing it cause i dont know where to start what resources should i use and then its just getting worse, its like a cycle worry-procrastinating-worry - procrastinating and so on
Yes to number 1! I've made all of these mistakes, but number one is the one that I tend to repeat the most.
Good suggestions for avoiding these traps!
as soon as you explained over compensating it was a mirror and I understood the root cause of my failures
I related so much
I will make sure I wont fall into this trap again
Instant subscriber. I am a student advisor to college students. and I am also on my self paced learning journey, taking on IT and computer science subjects so I can learn more about something we use on a daily basis. I had to limit social media and actually block in even 2 afternoons or evenings a week for my studies so I can work, live life and focus on hobbies. By putting in these blocks, I have no choice but to spend 100% of energy towards the subject, even if it is spending the whole two hours working on a problem, i know i've made some sort of progress. thank you for this video!
These are the problems I faced while studying, I thought I was the only one who felt this way thank you for addressing them.
This is gold. I've been falling into the first trap for so long and I didn't even know it was stalling me that much. I've been feeling like it takes me forever to learn something new.
Thank you for this video. I'm trying to focus in order to get enough skills to apply for an entry-level Data science job; and sometimes, I feel overwhelmed by the number of options.
To add to your points about the "Breath vs depth trap" the most difficult thing about that trap is when you need to decide how deep you need to go in some new knowldege or when to escape the trap.
For example, just right now, I'm trying to study a way to connect to databases in python for data science, I already know the "easy pandas way" (pandas.read_sql function) but want to learn the more complicated one, the "sqlalchemy way".
And the big issue is that when you look for the documentation of sqlalchemy you immediately notice its depth all the way, so the only way to learn is diving right away and hope you don't lose much time finding what you need.
The very standard way of connecting is something like the way python connects to sqlite. Create a connection and get a cursor with some options maybe. Use that cursor to execute some sql and then iterate over the results. It's like that everywhere (mongo, redis, etc).
@@mephisto212 In my case, I have an R programming background, I'm used to do the SQL queries in the "pandas way" more than the "connection-cursor-iteration" that you mention, so is a little difficult to wrap my thinking around that. In fact, I decided that the analysis I'm doing right now is simple enough to use only the "pandas way" and is working fine.
But I still need to learn when to use the second one because I'm sure the "pandas way" is not enough in 98% of the cases.
Tina, I binge watched your videos for the past 2 days. I've never seen a more relatable RUclips channel. Keep up the good content, and happy new year!! ❤️
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This video is very important for me. You cleared up everything I started to have doubts with and said such things can be normal and how to avoid it. Thank you so much.
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Thanks a million! I have fallen in almost all of the mentioned traps, and... This video helped me to calm down about it, and start doing things with a bit other approaches and more cold head.
honestly thankful to the youtube algorithm gods for suggesting this to me 4 months later but this is the most concise, analytical and well summarised video I've yet to see on this topic - earned a sub and I'm recommending this to everyone I know
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I have definitely being a victim to depth-first learning approach time and time again 😂, it is always so deceiving and easy to fall into this trap, some time ago I was learning Laravel (a PHP framework) and got stuck at a concept called dependency injection, I went into a rabbit hole with trying to dive deep to understand this concept and it stunted my progress, the breadth first approach is really just better. Thank you Tina!
How so clearly you know every thing about me.
I thought it was just my problem and I am the only one in rabbit hole everyone else know how to do and what
Thanks Tina! This was much needed! Hit a brick wall self-studying for the AP exams....
I've placed too high of a pressure on myself due to the stakes at hand... 😮💨
I think after 2 years into randomize self-study as a college student I have learned that sitting down and actually saying I will study for x number of hours generally doesn't work. Usually to fight against my procrastination, I force myself to stay after classes or free time in that day to take better notes of my last course and finish those that I haven't been able to complete then when the spontaneous feeling of wanting to study kicks in or maybe week before my test angst kicks in, I can take out the notes and just look over them cause I was able to retain a lot of info while making them. It's tedious work from past me that future me is so grateful for after binging through shows instead of studying.
edit: obviously this differs depending on what you're studying, as an accounting student, I have found that this method helps me a lot on the theoretical side of it but on other days it's usually a lot of numbers which require daily or weekly revision but that's second nature for me.
Great video! Gonna try and internalize these tips in 2023 🙏
That is a very systematic methodical approach to self-study, and it also serves as a great tool for building one's own knowledge base.
this is the video i never knew i needed.Thanks a lot for ur advices . Now i know why i am not improving after 2 months of self-studying. All the traps that u mentioned are exactly what i was falling into. After today i will rearrange everything things to continue self-studying.
This is the video I NEEDED to watch! Big thanks for making this.
Congrats for the great work you have been doing Tina! It really helps a lot of people (me included)!!
I believe that recognizing that we are just starting and not finishing stuff is really hard. Specially because starting a lot of new projects brings us a sensation of "doing something".
Thank You for sharing with us!
I love how you keep up benefiting people with such essential experiences.
I am in this trap now! Thanks to your advice I'll get myself out of it. Thank you!
This explains SO MUCH of why I can study and study a subject but give up when I get overwhelmed. I'm also on the spectrum so rabbit holes are where I live. 😆Thanks for this great video!
Me too I always go into details even though they are not needed and end up feeling overwhelmed
I have been struggling with the things you mentioned but now I know what to do. Thank you for this informative video 😊
Tina, your videos are the only place I ever bother commenting and that has got to do with your fine-line-walking between cutthecrap achievable guidance and the absolute friendly demeanor with which you present yourself. Lots of luck with your channel !
I found way to not procrastinate, i use parental protection software on my pc, no internet until 18:00 sometimes im so bored without dopamine stimulation that I do work instead
Thank you for your video! I definitely fell into the Depth-first learnings far too many times. I love physics and I love to explore the topic to much deeper extend than what is usually covered in an undergraduate courses. It's time-inefficient and misleading. However I do notice that my understanding of the topics are much more thorough and it comes out much more naturally. I guess these are the perks of it.
- better go for breadth instead of depth at first. It helps in not getting lost in a rabbit hole as you already have a faint idea of what the subject demands as a whole.
- stick to one source but don't be too rigid to not change your source if you don't fully understand it that way.
- know your vices by giving it time. Just watching this video might help recognise some of your vices but it'll really sink in only when you've been through it.
Ooh seriously. I fall in those traps before, but no more now. Thanks for your video
Yes i have been through all the traps but i manage to get rid of them over the time.
I thought that i am the only one who was facing these problems .
You did an amazing job btw
Glad I came across this video. It is a trend that makes people feel bad to behind .
The fact that I can relate to every point is not even surprising me... I still need to practice how to not run after every concept coz they will eventually make sense later, when I get the bigger picture.
speaking about cutting in half time you want to spend learning something new, when I'm doing stuff like that I always feel like I'm not doing enough, and wasting my time on the less valuable things like rest
I don't know how get rid of it...
Hey Tina
This video is very helpful for me since I've been doing self-studying for about a year now and I keep finding myself in the traps that you mentioned. I always end up burnt out and exhausted.
Definitely re-watching this video again later on.
Also , wishing you a happy new year.
Tina could be me soul sister. She just understand how I fuck up everytime I am trying to learn something :')
Thank you for this amazing video. It helps me a lot on my road of self-studying. I have stepped on all those traps stated in the video before. As a perfectionist, I always force myself to do my best in any aspects such as I must find the most perfect resources, and if I do not know some concepts, I will force myself to learn it in-depth which causes wasting of time on the knowledge which actually 'useless' for what I am studying. I have only realised all these mistakes after watching this video. 😀
1:30 the same thing with me and i reached this video🤣😂
I definitely fall into all of these categories. I need to stop letting myself do that in order to succeed
The first trap is definitely a HUUGE problem for me, I really have to learn how to undo that mindset when it's not the best strategy.
Thanks for pointing out the traps I always fall into.
This showed up at an extremely particular time 👁👁 !! Thank you so much
I needed this so bad
I fell into a depth approach trap so many times. I'm thankful that you're informing me about this. Never thought of it that way.
I can relate! I gave up working out to study and I don’t like how I feel.
My god I'm always getting caught up in those traps and wasn't even acknowledging it! Thank you for the content, very helpful!
I love this! They're great advices and I've suffered some things that you mentioned.
This is a relevant topic to me. I thank you for your various self study tips and wish you a very happy New Year!
Breadth vs.depth trap
I am in this trap about 2 years
And struggled in good grades
hi I am i pg stud and try to self study thx for helping ...
this video clear many thinks and i know better ways .
Yes, diving too deep too fast is not a good idea.
Starting to practice on a very small practical case is a good way to identify your priorities.
I learn coding and I will never stop learning as you never see the end of it. But, personal and professional projects are the best way I found to identify new areas where I can improve and to share experience with others.
You just explained me throughout the whole vid. I thought i am dumb af and cant commit to anything. Now i still think i am dumb af but its bcz of the pressure i put to myself. Will try the 2/1 technique now. I hope it will work. Thank you so much for giving tips that act work instead of "Glow up goooorl"
I was struck in that trap miserably, Thankyou so much tina🥰
I've fallen in all these traps all these years. Whatever u said are all true. Tq for this video. Love from India 💜💜