HARDEST or EASIEST Weapons to Learn in Monster Hunter World | Every Weapon Ranked Tier List
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- HARDEST or EASIEST Weapons to Learn in Monster Hunter World | Every Weapon Ranked Tier List [MHW]
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0:00 Intro
0:15 Rankings
0:49 Sword and Shield
3:45 Dual Blades
7:06 Great Sword
9:54 Long Sword
13:05 Lance
16:42 Gunlance
19:30 Charge Blade
24:32 Switch Axe
28:01 Hammer
31:18 Hunting Horn
34:42 Insect Glaive
38:37 Bow
41:41 Light Bowgun
44:16 Heavy Bowgun
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I made a small animation at the start to represent the difficulty of each weapon. I want to improve the quality of my guides so let me know if you'd like to see more things like that.
Do you disagree with any of my rankings? If so, let's talk about it! 😊
Long necked head makes it a bit harder to follow the moves since your char's proportions are off.
I like that little animation in the beggining personally. Small things like that do look good in a video.
It's a good start but there were few errors here and there, I did a more in-depth presentation of the hammer in the comments as it's my main weapon but there were other errors or too heavy simplification of the mechanic of the weapons you were presenting. If I may be a bit of a critic I would recommend doing a more thorough research next time as spreading wrong informations may be detrimental to the image of your guides being reliable. Still a good start though.
I thought about world 's weapons difficulty tier and in my mind they have to be 2 seperate lists. To learn vs to master.
Hunting horn is hard to learn, the weapon is slow and hits don't do much damage but it's pretty easy to master.
SnS is easiest to learn but it have many tricks and choices to choose mid combo so it's harder to master.
Can I ask what mods you use if any?
Rankings:
Sword and Shield- Medium
Dual Blades- Easy
Greatsword- Hard
Longsword- Medium
Lance- Medium
Gunlance- Galaxy Brain
Charge Blade- Galaxy Brain
Switchaxe- Medium
Hammer- Easy
Hunting Horn- Medium
Insect Glaive- Easy
Bow- Easy
Light Bowgun- Easy
Heavy Bowgun- Medium
Saw some comments saying they wanted all the weapons with their respective ratings, so here you are. Super informative vid!
Charge blade is waaaay easier than SA 😂
@@thattoomas1217I'll be honest with you, after playing for who knows how long with the CB as my main, I can say with confidence that learning the SA is much easier, I just don't know how to time my dodges
Edit: SnS is extremely difficult for me somehow, maybe it's because of me maining the CB the entire time
@@tiresomewarheadanddoombust5076 CB has like 2 combos which are easy. CB maybe requires more patience, but that's all. SA has combos, dodges, morphs, timings and is so slow 🙏
Ain't now way you put a giant sword that goes Bonk Bonk as Hard 😂😂😂
@@thattoomas1217 huh, must be me then, thanks for the input fellow hunter
What's great about monster hunter is that you don't have to "master" the weapons, you just have to be "good enough" which his very achievable by watching useful combo videos and practicing them on low rank monster with high rank gear.
At the end of the day only one thing matters. That the monster is dead at the end of a hunt. You can achive this faster by mastering your weapon or you take a little bit longer by just being good enough.
Until you fight cheese like fatalis
Bro I tried to fight the bagelguze with a hunting horn and Blud sat on me and blow me up bro but… once I got the defender’s glaive I beat his behind like I’m a master hunter. New main confirmed???
@@dezxera6939I once watched a guy who had no idea how to use any longsword counters get through all of base world and iceborne and kill fatlalis after his first 3 tries. I honestly have no clue how he did that.
@@oleytheboyls is just braindead 😂 combined with evade extender and divine you can basically play darksouls and only slash and roll 😂 a friend of mine played the entire base game with gs using the aoe slash... he didn't even knew he could block ☠
I fully agree with your assessment of SnS. I started with SnS and almost quit. The range is way too short and new players don't have the experience to utilize the slinger/items or quick sheath speed. Not to mention the amount of times a new player will accidentally lock themselves into the shield bash combo because they were pushing forward when they attacked or accidentally backstep due to wonky camera angles is too damn high (speaking from experience, lol). I love SnS nowadays though.
In my opinion, hammer is the easiest weapon to learn. The focus on the charge attacks simplifies combat significantly and, if you are using a controller, lets you operate the camera with the R-stick while attacking, which is an insane QOL improvement over the other weapons that focus more on the circle/triangle (or B/A, B/Y) attacks.
This! trying to break Xenojiiva's head with SnS was the worst thing ever for me, and fighting anjanath and deviljho and not being able to hit anything but their legs is infuriating.
@@emperorpalpatine4953im the opposite lol i love fighting brute wyverns because its basically trip city
It was the opposite for me. I found SNS easy since I spend time in the training room. I switch to bow just to make fighting more challenging.
Whenever I am stressed out, I always tend to play Hammer with only one hand on the controller and join a High Rank quest.
Hold weapon, wait for opening, go to monster's head, let go. Rinse and repeat.
It's a great stress reliever and I dont need to worry about forecasting monster movement like Charge Blade or Great Sword users have to do in order to get big dmg done.
@@wynn5540 yep & when u add environmental damage, blinds, traps, & wall bangs to the equation they get decimated real fast, i've ended up killing monsters that im supposed to capture bc they couldnt go into the limping animation so i just kept going 🤣
The only thing HH is supporting is it's own back after carrying the entire quest
Brand new player here, got the charge blade as my 1st weapon because it was the only one that appealed to me with it's heavy and impactful attacks, yea i suffered with it a lot my first 10 hours but then i understood how it operates on a beginner level and i don't think im gonna switch to anything, CB is just perfect
once you start getting comfy with the CB, there is no going back. Forever a CB main.
Not a CB main but I do know how to use it effectively. It is very fun to use plus it is super destructive, true it will punish you at first but if you get the gist of it will reward you with fun and confidence by releasing those destructive SAED
CB GAAANG. something he doesnt mention in the video that's important to know. your guard point when your shield is charged builds up stagger damage and its damage reduction matches lance sheild (roughly) so dont blow your load on the first GP. if you take agitator to make the monsters focus you. its easy to build up impact damage from the shield (while also building charge since GP does that) and after a GP topple you go into SAED for easy damage. also you dont have to just do your transform to GP but i assume you know that
quick edit: basically doing a GP topple into SAED on the head or even an AED can lead into a stun after the topple. you are a chain stunning weapon in specific builds
@@sylanwindrunnergaming4318 some day I will understand what you said)
Edit: understood when red it twice
@@RevoltFeed sorry. CB in practice is honestly easy to understand. Just slash and parry, but explaining anything about it is basically writing a book every time
1:49 Backstep becomes 10x more intricate once you learn that the backstep after a front roll can go to any of the four main directions. e.g. you roll forward, then once you get there, you can immediately flow into a left backstep, forcing your character to face right. Not a lot of weapons can move in an L-shape like this, with two i-frame windows. Unlocking this tech is the key to making SnS out DPS every other melee weapon.
with the right timing you can even u turn
Okay let’s not embellish too hard, SnS is never out DPSing GS
@@biggiecheese2004 SnS will likely maintain a higher dps purely because it can keep swinging, Unless you're solo'ing a monster with GS and have the entire fight telegraphed, you probably aren't gonna be swinging the entire time
Lot of info to take in. Was really hoping for a summary type chart at the end where you'd show all weapons with their representative star.
with the HH you can do the quick stab with all 3 atacks buttons and you get the different notes too, so its a great way to get some recitals ready, you can also attack from the air with all 3 attacks (so you also get the corresponding note)
Honestly, as a greatsword main, hunting horn is my secondary weapon, and in my opinion hunting horn is extremely easy because only the recitals/encores are tricky.
Especially once you remember to use the self buff song all the time.
@hariman7727 fun tip for using the hunting horn, you can queue up 2 songs for the stronger buff instead of doing encores. It's quicker to play 2 song per perform than it is to encore to play it again.
And if you were like me at the beginning who keeps performing multiple songs, it's better to queue up one song, play it once then queue up again because recitals/encores multiple songs at once leaves you way too opened for attacks. Performs that hits the head do slightly higher KO damage than the super slam.
Recitals/encores to multiple songs that aren't impact songs are pretty much only useful during the preparation stage (aka before you start fighting the monsters) because even during KOs, you're losing a lot of dps for not beating up the monster
Hilt stab also leads to the fastest recital.
One thing about the slinger shots for something like the greatsword that you forgot to mention is that you can reorient yourself in any direction which is helpful if the monster is suddenly behind you after a helicopter slap.
World was my first Monster Hunter title and Charge Blade was the first weapon I actually learned. One of the flashiest and most interesting weapons to play on account of all the finer details you have to learn about it. You're spot-on though - once you understand the move set's fundamentals, it makes the weapon feels as straightforward as the Greatsword. It feels amazing having clean combos, charging your shield & sword, getting guard points to deliver strong retaliation hits, and then the sheer absurdity of dumpstering monsters with a SEAD or wailing on them with savage axe.
I've learned the basics on Greatsword and Glaive after, also excellent weapons and a ton of fun for the big numbers and mobility respectively. I need to learn Switch Axe, somehow that weapon just confuses me and feels clunky. That and Sword & Shield are weapons I'm very interested in adding to my rotation.
Honestly, I agree with everything u said in the video except bow, I think bow has one of the highest skill ceilings amongst the other weapons. I also think it has a medium skill floor. Unlike every other weapon in game(maybe besides DB) your stamina is not only your survivability but also your overall damage/DPS. I think that alone makes the weapon harder for newer players. You also by default have to play ALOT closer to the monster compared to the bows guns, and I’m talking melee range(maybe a few meters further) u also by default take about 30% more damage by basically anything while playing melee range. I should also say how build hungry the weapon is, you literally need top decos in most cases. You also have to learn to be very snappy with ur aim to successfully hit monsters weak spots and so much more. I do NOT recommend new players touching this weapon until later in the game when they have a better understanding about the game itself and overall build crafting
Completely agree
But bow is not hard to use or hard to master, it's really stamina hungry and needs a lot of perks to shine, but not because is hard to use. You can play bow without coating and slide jump but it will take a lot of time to kill monsters compared to other melee weapon.
@@BorrasitoTakaTaka well u kinda just proved my point. If your not playing bow optimally ur gonna be doing Dogshit damage compared to literally any other weapon in the game that just have to click on the monster with a few hidden mechanics. Bow is arguably the highest DPS weapon in the game, Atleast top 3, IF Played optimally. I mean dude I literally kill every monster in the game besides Rajang, Alatreon and fatalis in sub 5mins of actual hunting time lol and that’s without speed running. Bow in my opinion is nowhere near noob friendly. What makes the bow difficult is purely the mechanics, the build crafting, the pure squishiness and literally no type of defense tool except ur dodges which ties into your stamina, which ties into your DPS & evasion which ties into correctly timing the monsters attacks and properly positioning to refrain from getting hit. I personally believe no weapon is insanely hard to use, it just takes time. Learning & mastering bow is nowhere near easy, and mastering a weapon is successfully playing the weapon optimally(how it’s meant to be played and more) with that being said I completely disagree
I don't think i've ever felt pressure when playing bow, just knowing to stay close works well, if you run out of stamina, conserve it better or get decos to make up for it.
Bow is what I consider my "I want to turn my brain off" weapon, makes hunts fast, easy and stress free and i'm not even a bow main
@@HeatherKayagi Yeah, Same. I’ve been quoted that I have no problems fighting any monster with bow and I shit on 95% of the game in sub 5mins. Just like every weapon in the game you’ll somewhat get to that point if you try hard enough. I just said with bow it initially takes a little more effort then most weapons. The mechanics, builds, stam management etc which doesn’t make it very NP friendly. If you aren’t playing bow optimally ur better off playing bowgun. It’s easier to use and you’ll do 5x the Dmg by default. Just like bow I don’t ever feel pressure when using great sword, switch axe & charge blade or bowguns either. When you get good with said weapon(main or not) and understand the monster, the entire game becomes easy as shit, and all that comes with time.
Interesting addition to note, SnS has a special wall jump attack for those scalable jump points. Hard to explain, it's the ones you can't climb but can still go up and do a jump attack from. If you do an unsheath attack (and maybe an advancing slash) just before hitting the wall you go into a special animation that leads to your character plunging the sword for a ton of hits instead of the usual one and done/mount.
Gunlance also has a special move off a wall that reloads your shells. Useful.
Hammer and Duals have wall run attacks as well, Lance can charge up those walls for an aerial attack/direction reverse. Also, Glaive can stick to those walls and launch off whenever you want.
I think it’s called helm splitter
@@myriad8275 Helm Splitter is the Long Sword move from Spirit Thrust
@@shithoagie my bad Ik it’s something similar though
As a long time bowgun user, in MHW Iceborne they made it so that you can draw your weapon two different ways. If you draw it by pressing R2 which is your fire button you won't reload your gun, but if you draw your weapon with triangle or the Xbox equivalent and you're missing a bullet, the game will force you into the reload animation. Most bowguns I draw them with R2 since I can then choose when I reload and still evade incoming monster attacks. Another thing is that you can reload your clip on all bowguns by just press R2 after your clip is completely empty, you must press triangle or the Xbox equivalent to manually reload if there's any bullets still in your clip.
What type of bowgun you were using light or heavy?
@@aoiminase I use both, I got different ammo type that I use with different bowguns. For Spread 3 I use the Safi Burst cannon for a shield build since it's a little more efficient when it comes to the skills mods needed for low recoil and fast reload. I got a DPS Fatalis HBG Spread 3 ammo build. I got a Sticky ammo 3 build on the Safi Aquashot LBG. A Pierce 2 or 3 build that I don't think I've finished. Pretty much got all Elements covered because of the Alatreon LBG. I got a rapid Normal 2 LBG just for the novelty, it's a hard play style cause of the weak points you need to target. There's a few other builds I know of for HBG that are good, just haven't had a reason to make them.
Edit: If you were curious about if drawing your weapon with R2 works for both bowguns, the answer is yes. I do recommend it especially with HBG since it already has a long weapon draw animation and you probably don't want to get stuck in a reload animation after the draw animation. The only other case where this is applicable is if the ammo you're using also has a long reload, on Sticky 3 LBG you're going to be using the evade reload mod so the reload is fast when you reload through evade reload. Though if you have to manually reload, it's a long reload animation that leaves you very vulnerable but there's other ways to cheat the reload. Like you can perform an evade reload after placing a mine down with ⭕, the mines are your special ammo on LBG. You could also switch to another ammo, fire one shot, evade and before you do your second evade that reloads your ammo, quickly switch back to Sticky 3.
I was going to comment that, while I haven't tried either bowgun in World yet, in Rise this was how it worked. I think the logic was "well Triangle/Y is the button you use to reload, so if the player is pressing it to bring out the gun, it should reload it." I would understand the confusion, as most other weapons I use Triangle/Y to draw them.
0:49 Sword and Shield
3:45 Dual Blades
7:06 Great Sword
9:54 Long Sword
13:05 Lance
16:42 Gunlance
19:30 Charge Blade
24:32 Switch Axe
28:01 Hammer
31:18 Hunting Horn
34:42 Insect Glaive
38:37 Bow
41:41 Light Bowgun
44:16 Heavy Bowgun
Doing the lord’s work
Thank you I've now added them as sections to the video! 😊
Imma be honest I didn't know you could do these things with the clutch claw
Hey quick note on the switch axe segment you dont have to slinger burst out of wild swing to go into sword mode. At any point while you're doing wild swing you can press r2 and itll perform morph sweep.
Well said; that 2nd hit of the transform is one of the hardest singles hits you can get with this weapon. This videographer also missed that the Power Axe mode for switch axe increases partbreaks and trips, not exhaustion.
I would say Bow is more difficult than LBG. You don't see many Bow players, but if someone wants to play safe at a range, they would go LBG. Bow requires holding charge and dashing while maintaining charge, all while aiming. Your critical range is in that close to medium distance, so you're not as safe as a LBG at range. Bow is basically a melee weapon with some aiming, as it uses combos as well. However, you're at the risk of getting hit often, without the safety of a shield like HBG (if you spec it). Also, I don't usually recommend Bow for beginners as to really be effective, you need to invest a lot of time and build up 5 elemental sets, or else you're doing pretty crappy damage. It's a higher skill and higher gear commitment weapon.
Kinda disagree, I honestly found LBG the most difficult out of the 3 to use. When I need easy ranged damage I usually take either bow or if i really want a bowgun, I'll take HBG. I know it's probably just me, but LBG is one of only like 2 weapon types I haven't been able to work with. The dance fighting of Bow looks harder than it is to actually successfully pull off. Since you're basically spamming i-frames and damage at the same time. LBG you can dodge sure, but that's not really helping you deal damage. Low DPS, frequent reloads, often less access to decent ammo types, counter bombs that require precise placement, and time to set up, versus just dodge shoot dodge shoot dodge shoot repeat until the end of time.
@@CrazyBarks the point is LBG you can play at a further range so you're safer from most attacks, while doing consistent damage easily. You do not have to use much skill other than aiming and managing your ammo. You also have higher movement speed than HBG, so you can reposition around the battlefield easier. Bow does more damage except for some cases where you can use pierce LBG or some type of ammo that works well in matchups, but is it easier to do? I'd disagree.
i completely agree with the bow part - when going into iceborne, it was my second time finishing base world so i switched it up from ig to bow. even now as my 2nd most played weapon, i still find some difficulty with it compared to other weapons like the hunting horn or charge blade. obv not the most intricate weapon, but with all the factors you listed: the critical range, susceptible to hits, etc. it may not be the hardest to play, but it's one of the least beginner friendly weapons to play optimally imo😭
@@CrazyBarksI guess it’s depends on build, if you’re playing in the end game and acquired a Safi Aqua shot then LBG gonna be one of the most brain dead weapon I ever tried. Aside from crafting ammo in the fight, each of your shot completely busted, 1 normal aqua shot dealt around 200 dmg and can be run n gun including reload evading. Of course if the monster isn’t weak to water, use sticky bomb instead, this might be harder to pull off since it’s only work when you aim for head but it’s still working and dealing decent damage, including stuns for your teammate as well. In conclusion it’s probably a different play styles that separate our opinion and all of this is just mine opinion, I just want to share.
I'm a new player and been playing with the bow and love it so far, the dmg could definitely be better even with dash dancing but it ain't difficult
My starting weapon was infact the insect glaive and my first real challenge was nergigante, I didn't use guides to learn the glaive but definitely enjoyed learning it and seeing this review has shown me some new tricks. Awesome work!
“Gunlance is among the hardest to learn”
Me: *Spams literally nothing but charged wide shells and Wyvernfire to ruthlessly stunlock Tempered Elders to death and make em drop loads of shinies*
Hunting Horn note: You can do the quick jabs with any note not just the Triangle one, this is most helpful with the heavy/double note, sometimes you need that for a song but dont want the long animation so you can press back and the double note to slip it in very quickly, that with the double circle hit is the quickest way to line up songs. Also the quickest way to line up Echo attack, just do it after your special notes and you can get 3 echo waves very quickly
id put hammer as eaiser than greatsword
Edit: i thought the weapons were in order 😅
He did
@@sgtwild3500oh i didnt notice he said their difficulties I thought is was in order because it started with 2 easy weapons
@@comehome4226 at least watch 5mins of the video before commenting. He started with S&S which he rated as a medium difficult weapon. Great Sword is one of the hardest weapons to learn/master, that's why it's easy to imagine Hammer being easier than GS.
@@Gquain i already watched more than 5 mins. How do you think i came into conclusion that "i didnt notice he did not do it by order"
so yea ur just dumb, @Gquain was just wrong@@comehome4226
I played insect glaive when i restarted for the wilds hype after not playing the game for a few years and i gotta say, jumping through the air to try and avoid monster attacks always reminds me of that dark souls 3 video where the person using the weapon art jump dodged the dancer's attack by sliding straight through the middle of her two swords in mid air.
I remember it because its the holy grail of what a good hitbox is for an enemy.
I remember it because this is the 75th time today i've gotten knocked out of the air by a monster whose closest body part is 10 feet below me.
Insect glaive would be a much easier weapon if the devs weren't constantly jebaiting you into thinking that you can actally dodge things by maneuvering in mid-air.
Now that I've gotten to him finally, the worst case for this is fatalis, whose vertical hitbox seems to take up most of the arena not just for his body but for most of his attacks as well.
my IG-main friend refuses to fight Tigrexes because of the spin-attack hit box being the size of a skyscraper
@@novarat4089 The fatalis sweeping breath hitbox goes so much higher than the last visual particles, which is nuts for something that's a 1-shot 95% of the time.
Give a weapon tools to use then punish them for thinking they can use them.
Black veil Val-hazak’s breath attack is a damn nightmare with the insect glaive. What do you mean the fucking 2ft gas cloud is not only hurting me but PHYSICALLY SWATTING ME 20ft out of the air??!?? What??
@@novarat4089I literally learned to play the lance just to deal with the tigrex lmao
32:53 You can actually press any note (except the Forte, which can only be done with the spinning attack) while holding backwards and it'll do the same stab attack with the note with you want. It's pretty useful for songs with multiple Double Notes.
On another note, while SA is my most used weapon in every MH game that has it, I never knew about this maneuver here at 26:44. I thought the regular Axe attacks were the only way to gain access to Burst. Pretty good to know.
I have like 500 hours in different characters only in Mhw and it was my first mh game. I still consider myself a begginer (Since i haven't tried all weapons) my main weapon is Greatsword, mainly because once i got really good on it (about 300 hunts) there just isn't any weapon that can give me the satisfaction of seeing such big numbers and absolutely destroying and sending monsters flying. Specially light weapons are so hard for me to get into do to lack of raw dmg and range. Im starting the game again with friends this time, and this time I'll try to get good on Lance and SnS since i really like the weapons. This video is very good, as of my experiences with the weapons i can agree except bow. It is so hard to keep track of the distance, specially with short range coat, and it is so stamina dependant it hurts your dmg without proper skills, besides that I'll be sending my friends this guide.
New player here, completed the base game with the Charge Blade and honestly loves it, now for iceborne I’ve just switched over to the Switch axe to try to something new and also loving that as well
Good luck bruv. My first MH I did the same as you (or possibly reversed). Regardless going between the two is actually pretty easy.
The intentional charge mechanic for them both also foster a playstyle that makes Insect Glaive a bit easier to grasp.
CB, SA, LN, GL are my favorites. If you want to feel like Sirfetch'd doing a meteor assault LN is achieves this feeling.
i played Dual Blades for all of base game and all of iceborne until the final monster (wont name just incase you dont want spoilers) but it was then i realised i didnt enjoy DB anymore, so i ditched it and went with Switch axe. It felt soo good, and also its dead easy to play imo especially with clutchclaw, it made beating that final monster alot easier, and i continued playing it for well over another 600 hunts before i started to get a lil bored of the play style, which was when i swapped to charge blade, and boy can i tell ya getting a ZSD with SA felt good, but hitting a full super amped element discharge feel ungoldy.
but i hope you enjoy switch axe, it was extremely fun to play!
@@Nodnarb59 whats LN?
@@imranrakin17Longnword?
One thing you forgot to mention about charge blade is how the chainsaw mode makes it one of the best status application weapons in the game. The main hit deals full status buildup while all followup hits do a heavily reduced amount, but when we're talking about 500+ status buildup with the safi and raging brachy weapons, that heavily reduced amount is still a lot. Charge blade is and always will be my main weapon in MHW because it's so versatile and fun. Not to mention it's the weapon with the most playstyles in the game, so if you're getting bored of one playstyle you can just switch to any of its 4 others. Not every one is as effective as the other, but they are all valid, effective, and fun. How I rank the playstyles is - SAED spam, status/elemental chainsaw blitz, offensive guard counter spam, amped sword mode blitz, and amped axe mode.
The Insect Glaive is what got me hooked to Monster Hunter. I tried to play some of the older games and always felt like it was too clunky and unresponsive to my taste. Fast-forward to Monster Hunter World and some of my friends got the game on PS4 so I figured I'd give it another show. From the weapons offered, I tried a few and the only two that I felt somewhat optimist for were the Longsword and Insect Glaive.
However, once I started hunting with the Insect Glaive, I really appreciated the added agility and the ability to vault, which let me dodge upwards technically. On top of that, it was fun to almost constantly be able to mount monsters to disable it for my teammates which I think is an underrated feature of the weapon itself. Then a sale came last holiday season and I picked the game again on PC and really appreciated the dive attack they added, mostly due to the fact that I also play FFXIV and one of my favorite melee jobs is the Dragoon.
Nevertheless, I'm close to finishing the main story hunts in Iceborne and have been experimenting playing with the Charge Blade to tank some as well as touch on the Longsword for the counterattack gameplay.
IG in glaive gets a lot more love I feel, the wirebug moves and switch skills really lean into it, not to mention the scaling damage with aerials (1st aerial 10% extra dmg, 2nd 20%, 3rd 30%, resetting once you land)
gotta love the charge blade, tried it in generations, played it a lot in 4U and even if world changed a lot of the move set its still fun
thank you for adding so many good tracks from my favorite games in this video
I always put weapons into 4 different categories when introducing monster hunter to my friends
High skill Ceiling and High skill floor (hard to learn, hard to master) which is charge blade, gunlance (my beloved), switch axe, hunting horn (my beloved)
High skill Ceiling and Low skill floor (easy to get introduced to, ramps up in difficulty or hard to use well) which is SnS, Greatsword, DB, Longsword (yuck), and LBG
Low skill Ceiling and High Skill floor (hard to get into, becomes comfy to use) which is bow, IG, HBG
Low skill Ceiling and low skill floor (the ultimate comfort picks) which is hammer and lance
Largely agree, but...
HH has a low skill floor
Bow has a high skill ceiling
swaxe and gunlance felt incredibly easy for me to get into especially with high damage attacks that are easy to use
Calling any weapon in MH a low skill ceiling is already a farce. Citing specifically Hammer which has to be constantly at the most dangerous part of a monster and Lance which has to be attacking absolutely non-stop to do competitive damage is absurd. Especially as someone who lists hunting horn and gunlance as "my beloved". You should know better I feel.
Is this a meme to shit on longsword 😂?
@@baval5 I love Lance. It absolutely has a low skill ceiling compared to other weapons.
I picked up long sword after 500 hrs of Great sword. The feeling is like that scene in Naruto when Rock Lee release his training weights lmao.
But nothing is more satisfying than landing a TCS
As a Gunlance main (former lance main), it's really powerful in a burst, and provides fantastic defensive capabilities. Building for Guard, Health, Shield, Divine Protection and elemental resistances is fantastic.
It is rather slow to move though, which is often the case with most of these weapons.
LBG is very easy. You are directed to use on Ammo 2 rapid fire bowguns (Defender, Karma...) and it's easy to get gunpowder 2 for them, you can carry a lot and craft a lot from what you carry (vs Bow power coating). The range is between bow short and power coatings and you don't use stamina for anything other than dodge and rolls and with fast enough reload you can reload while you move so you don't risk a hit when animation locked. And ranged can easily avoid a lot of close melee attacks or melee AoE some monsters do. Or when you have to go face on Kirin while he will shoot bolts directly in front of his head. Or when Paolumu inflates and you don't slinger him down you have big inflated weakspot to shoot. When bow and LBG meet is when you try to use some speciality ammo/coating - then both become micromanagement weapons :) And by the endgame you can also go sticky ammo.
Some say bows begin when you have all "required" decorations for extra charge level and stamina management.
LBG on Ammo 2 can struggle on agile monsters with long tails like Barioth, Glavenicuses to some extent and alike when solo.
And I would say fast melee weapons > slow melee weapons if people are new to this. SNS or dual blades can dodge and go tail or legs, it may require legs tenderize but it's rather straightforward. Lance guard and moves require initial practice and a good showcase video to understand how such weapon functions.
I have a few duel blades that are late game, but I always always see myself going back to sword and shield. I’m old though haha.
I have greatsword, lance, sns, cb but i always go back to longsword lol
Can't stand Dual Blades. Hate the stamina drain and too many attacks lock you into place.
I have close to 1500 hours and close to 2k kills with greatsword, my main. I had SUCH a hard time playing other weapons due to their styles feeling SO different. Surprisingly I've transitioned Gunlance of all things. I've killed all the big Elders solo and even group killed Fatalis. Guess what I'm getting at is always try and experiment, you'd be surprised what clicks sometimes.
Agreed! Switching from Charge Blade to the Lance after playing up to Elder's Recess was probably the only thing that kept me into MHW. Sometimes the weapon playstyle just grabs you, but you won't know if you don't try.
Very useful video thx! 1 quick question, wich layered armor on boots u got at 16:08 ? during nergigante fight with the lance, thx in advance keep goin with those guides!
what mod were u using for the Long Sword effects? it looks so cool!
On the hunting horn : the "poke" attack work not only for triangle but other notes.
It's used to enter recital really fast with a strong uppercut. The strongest move you can do with that is : any hits + L2 + Circle (poke) and enter recital for a impact wave. You can chain poke + L2 to load a lot of echo waves. Echo waves stack btw, if you do your encore with 3 echo waves you get one big echo wave that deal 3x damage
Managing to play Heartstone's theme in this vid, bravo
The Lance has a power guard as well
I fell in love with the gun-lance first time ever in monster hunter and I've mastered it after all this time
22:40 a thing to note about savage axe mode is that when you saed it ends savage mode early no mater what time is on it left, also i really like to run power prolonger on it because it keeps sword shield and savage mode active longer/ As well as 47:26 heavy and light bowguns do not need to be reloaded to be unsheathed if you press the button that fires the weapon it will unsheathe without reloading, although if you have wyvern snipe loaded it will cause you to lay down and fire
I think a generally fair set of parameters for assessing the difficulty of a weapon is how much inherent mechanical complexity a weapon requires a player to understand compares to how effectively they are able to maximize those mechanics against their level of familiarity with any given monsters' attack patterns.
With that in mind, your difficulty rating for each weapon is pretty spot on, especially with CB and Gunlance being the toughest weapons to learn. I remember trying to pick those weapons up back in Tri and triple-carting on even monsters I was familiar with just because of how unforgivingly ineffective their damage output turned if I neglected any of their resources. It's also why I have an incredibly high level of respect for anyone that can use either weapon competently.
Charge Blade wasn't it only added in the fourth generation?
@@johnny8363 My bad, I meant to say I've been playing since Tri
@@Bonovasitchtried charge blade in GU (I suck a bit but I got the hang of it)
Tried charge blade in 4u (Destroying some monsters since guardpoint to elemental discharge is op)
When i first started playing monster hunter i used the LBG. I recently started a new save where im maining it in world. Ive actually had an easy time with ammo. Now in world i have builds for all weapons. Im relearning stuff from these videos, thanks man! Also you neglected to mention the slaplance playstyle for gunlance. Also shelling types. Gunlance was my origjnal main in world
Very nice video dude!
The gunlance part is spot on although depending on your start point, you might find it much more manageable (if you come from bowguns or charge blade) or a tad confusing (if you come from greatsword, lance or sns)
Also on the gunlance part, shelling deals exact damage even if you hit a hard part of the monster, so it has bigger error margin compared to its gun-less sibling. The WSB + long shell combo is a legit pick because of that.
Also I learned more about other weapons here like insect glaive's gimmicks and how hunting horn works. Tried it myself back then but I couldn't find the rhythm of them. Might try it in another playthrough.
P.S.: That Apollo's theme on heavy bowgun caught me off guard. Truly a moment of justice
What’s WSB?
@@shmekelfreckles8157 Wyrmstake Blast. The thing you need to load your slinger ammo into
I'd say you conveyed my thoughts on CB quite well. At face it seems like you need a masters thesis to understand, but picking it up and monkeying around its actually not bad at all to learn.
I picked the most difficult to main lol gunlance and chargeblade
One note for your hunting horn section, the quick jab (back on stick + note) can be any note not just triangle.
As a Charge Blade (among others) main, it makes me happy that I have conquered the hardest weapon lol
although I feel like I see it everywhere so idk if it's truly the hardest, perhaps complex yes but idk if it's hard
Also, that "holding back for triangle note" for Hunting Horn works with more than just the triangle, I've used it for the dual notes multiple times.
Alsoalso, regarding Light Bowgun's Wyvernblasts, they can be set off through more ways than just the melee
Charge blade main here and love its complexity. Was thinking of taking LBG as secondary, but charge blade is so fun. I want to master it.
33:00 you can do the hilt stab with all 3 note types, not just purple/white, so its a great option to get your notes quickly for echo waves and everything else as well.
I absolutely love Insect Glaive! I'm a new player to MHW!
For HH, you can do the "Hold back TRIANGLE" (the cutting attack) with every note (excluding Echo). Not just for your Triangle.
Thought I'd clarify!
Very nice guude. Just want to know how to get those layered dual blades. They look so freaking sick
32:56 For hunting horn, the hilt stab can actually be done with any note, not just triangle (although im not sure if thats true if you only have base game). The hilt stab is also good to play music with as its the fastest way to get a buff out.
I love how intricate the balance is between offensive and defensive builds. Being able to decide how much defensive layers you need vs how much dmg you want for thresholds is to me the most amazing part about MHW.
My favorite weapons usually depends on the fights, as some flying creatures tend to never touch the ground etc.
Having a build that can reliably punish the monsters movement is extremely rewarding.
I also love seeing the progression and rewards from slowly substituting defense for offense :)
I’ve been playing switch axe lately, and I’ve found that my go to style is just cranking up my crit chance and damage and going for a hit and run strat with the axe form before switching into zsd spam when the monster is knocked or KOed. I’ve also put a lot of decorations into evade extender as well so I can dodge near anything that’s thrown at me and quickly retaliate by destroying the monsters legs. I’ve decided to call my build the “ankle goblin” build, and oh boy is it fun to play.
I recently started to play the hunting horn and it's so much fun. I mainly played GS before (with a little bit of SnS+Lance) and the HH is a nice change from that.
love the way u put pokemon's soundtrack into this
44:37 You missed some crucial information there: If you press the fire button to unsheathe the HBG, you don't reload as you explained. I know it is counter-intuitive as you usually unseathe your weapons with the basic attack button but in this case, this makes you reload even if you''re only missing a single ammo in the clip.
Also, not showing the Wyvern Snipe on a monster like Radobaan should be illegal! It is one of the most satisfying things in the game.
Apart from that, I actually agree with every single ranking and liked how you explained some common misconceptions on difficulty! Thanks for the video :)
I just started this game, and i heard some newbies telling me to try that spear with the bug, i have paralisis on it, and quite frankly its one of the best and easiest weapons, dragon mount is guaranteed when you high jump, not only that, but moving around the dragon does a spin attack that deals crazy damage, also you can dodge alot in mid air, i first tried it and hated it because of the useless bug, but Im starting to figure out
i just played this game for a couple days, how do you get that funny dragon head? is it a dlc thing on steam or reward in game or a mod??
Bow power and close coatings are completely optional for normal play and especially in case of close coatings super awkward to use to a point where a person should just decide if it's worth it the minimal damage increase they give. Generally for a normal play you can just use the basic arrows with no coatings and do just fine. I'm not sure where this idea that you can't play without coatings came from but it sounds weird to me as a Bow main lol. Status coatings can be a cool addition for hunts with that 1 extra sleep/para, that's true.
Is that a mod on the dual blades giving that red after effect on attack? Looks cool!
Hunting horn so difficult video needed to be re-uploaded!
Basically memorize health and atk and stamina, you rarely need defense notes. Its like a hammer but more fun to use.
The way you want to use the side blow is to get to the slinger burst, so you see an opening tackle- sideblow-slinger burst TCS
Unrelated questions, how does your material drops get highlighted on the ground? I am playing on PC and on some maps its impossible to see the material drops due the floor color.
There are mods for it on Nexus Mods. There are some RUclips videos outlining how to safely/easily install them
Would be nice to have timecode for every weapon
Would you say the same about rise? Or do the wirebug skills change things?
what duelblades are used in the video that are draining health? I have never seen those before
Just asking, how th did you do that cool black and white trail for your weapons???? I need to know this. Please
Long Sword I'm passable with, but I always forget the R2/R Trigger + Circle/B that is a counter move. I keep getting slapped because I have a habit of committing to a spirit combo.
Hammer... I've used it a few times against Diablos, but there's a big chance of dying.
Gunlance, despite my favorite weapon in terms of design, I still need training in. I'm probably better now that I know positioning more than when I started World, but it's going to be difficult once Elder Dragons and MR arrives (haven't done Nergigante quest yet)
Insect Glaive is actually the best weapon I've been working with. I only realized today that extracting essence is very important, especially the red one which allows me to use better moves while midair. I've been playing for about a month now and I only realized that, and yet I was still doing acceptably against most monsters. Only subspecies (Pink/Blue Raths), variants (Black Diablos), and extra big threats (Bazelgeuse and Deviljho) are the only obstacles I need to get past before I decide to take on the Nergigante quest.
Hey man, glad you're enjoying the game :)
I got a couple tips for ya, the insect glaive gets new moves from the ground too with red extract, by far the best damage you can get from it is using the red ground combos they do great damage, white extract also makes your attacks faster so there's even more damage from that, try to keep both active at all times and you'll kick ass
The charge blades my main weapon too and it took me way too long to realise this so I thought I'd share, if you attack, shield poke, shield poke again to go into element discharge and then press LT before it starts you'll super amp your axe and make it do WAY more damage, the numbers and hit effects you get from the amped axe are such a drug its unreal, look up 'savage axe tutorial' if my explanations a bit shite lmao
There's so much more but I'll leave better players to teach you that, have fun mate :)
@@mrbungnuggets1417 yup, I noticed that I can shred a monster really quickly when I'm on the ground. The jump attacks are for dodging, for mounting attempts, and to slap a flying monster out of the sky. Of course, I've only hunted B52 once so I don't know if that can work on him.
Just focus on one weapon until you get a thousand hunts with it, because then you will actually be good at it
@@eveakane6563 I'm yet to find anything that isn't obliterated by a bouncy boy and his insect fellow, the jump attack doesn't usually work if they're strafing but you can pull some goofy shit when they try to fly away and that's always fun
B52 more like B5- BeefiftyGay amirite fellas haha, yeah...
why would you use hammer for diablos? i just reached high rank and he is the worst enemy with hammer for me lol
Nice, hunting horn was included this time 😂
Yeah I had recorded and edited that part, I just missed it when I was putting everything together 😅
With over 2k Hammer kills, i have to agree, its easy to use and fairly easy to master.
One important note, while you mentioned it you did not do it justice of how fun sliding into jump attacks is with the hammer! I have played all weapons and i put this action as the single most fun to do.
Looks good, feels good and most importantly, gets the job done! Decent damage. Decent ability to break numerous part. Decent chance to knockdown, exhaust and KO the monster. Not to mention high chance to ride.
Slide into spinning attack can never get old!
I'd put both Bowguns as incredibly easy to learn. If you primarily play shooters, 3rd or 1st, then you already understand half of what you need to do. Shoot at monster until it dies. The other part is remembering that you have to craft your own bullets out in the field because the 99/60 you start with is not going to last for the whole fight. Once you just hot key that stuff, then you're golden. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
Ima be real, if the slinger burst for GS isnt in Wilds, I dont know if I'll be able to beat anything anymore... 😅
I rely on it waaaay to much...
Why do your attacks with the longsword look so cool? Is it something to do with you being on pc?
This is a very good video however I wont be showing my friend as it shows off several monsters that he and even myself didn't even know existed...
What is ur greatsword build and that layered armor he's wearing with the lance??
you can cancel most axe combos into sword mode with the swaxe, and ZSD has always been able to just jump on without needing to clutch, overall seems like a good video but my baby swaxe got done dirty here imo
I also found the IG to be relatively easy to pick up, but at the same time it's the weapon I main too.
Me personally, I also found the hammer and SnS to be easy to pick up. On the other hand, I do agree with the charge blade to be one of the hardest weapons to master. I always have a hard time learning it
Ok so as a Longsword main and CB/GL second choice I feel that I love to reach my skill ceiling
You missed that you can hit back and Circle as well for the stab when it comes to HH.
I remember starting out with the dual blades in world because of my experience in rise, but well rise's dualblades are significantly different from world.
So i ended up switching to the charge blade, It was fun! I managed to pick it up relatively well and learn about it due to low rank. Though after I beat the final boss of world, and moving onto iceborne, the first Monster I went up against gave me a lot of trouble due to how fast it was, so I switched to the switch axe.
now as I am trying to get every armor set in world (yes its driving me insane)
I've been learning different weapons, So far I've used the dual blades again as well as the hammer
Its been fun
Its been a long time since i played but bow was Hands down the Most Devastating "Im gonna Slow-mo slide Chad Shotgun Everything in the face to death".
That shit hit so harddd nvm Greatsword. Setting up barrels or other traps can help during stam downtime.
I am a dual blades main and my friend is a greatsword main. We pity the monsters when we’re through with them.
I started with hammer but I eventually move over to lance because hammer felt so repetitive (incredibly Ironic, I know). I almost immediately fell in love with Lance because my favorite type of character is a big ass tank that just eats attacks for breakfast making stuff look stupid, blocking everything that was thrown at me was so empowering after kinda suffering in the mid game of world and it actually allowed me to learn movesets of monsters alot easier because I could watch their attack over and over without dying immediately if I mess up. Lance made World so enjoyable for me and I think thats a big aspect to monster hunters overall success. The weapon system is amazing. No matter what kind of fight you wanna have or what your personality is like, there's most likely a weapon for you. I can say that there are alot of games I have dropped because of the combat and weapons being clunky and not my style but monster hunter isn't one of them. I love Lance
Switch axe: There are specific combos you can perform from morphing from axe to sword and sword to axe that increase your overall damage by transforming attacks into empowered attacks. True mastery of the switchaxe isnt about staying in sword mode, its about knowing which combos to morph into and from axe to sword and sword to axe so that you can keep both your gauge and damage up, while taking into account your own safety and positioning. It is truly the hardest weapon to master and despite my over 500 hunts with it, I am yet to master it properly.
How do you change the training camp like in the video? 2:45
What were the weapon trails on the Dual Blades and Longsword?
i was playing most of the game with the bow and was constantly dashing to avoid damage. then i switched weapons out of curiosity and could tank most of furious rajang attacks without worry and could finally kill him. God i love heavy bow gun with 3 shields.
Greatsword is something of a weird weapon in that regard.
The weapon itself is easy to learn but fighting monsters with it is pretty hard to learn.
Learning the weapon is a small part. Learning the monster is very important for GS to work.
Which means that you can in fact get good with GS by learning the monsters with other weapons
True. As the most satisfying thing in using GS is stopping monster mid charge. Or dropping a monster midflight with it.
HH main some monsters I feel like I’m on hard mode and I love it
Big tip for newer HBG players; if you're about to draw your weapon into an unloaded ammo type, just cycle up or down to the nearest fully loaded ammo when drawing the gun to avoid that forced reload, then cycle back to the ammo you actually wanted.
i miss 4U/Gen U siege mode
you can also press the shoot button and it won't trigger the reload at all
@@armandonoriega1434 Bro I never knew this... That's a way better tip than what I said lol
I used only Hbg and dont know the reload issue... maybe because i always draw it with the shoot-button? XD
I’m an eternal Sword and Shield main. Straight up, I always use max Guard, and Guard Up. It definitely helps. Evade Window and Distance, too. I also use Divine Protection and Offensive Guard as well.
so...aren't you lacking damage though?
@@nicolas.p1750I have Attack, Agitator, and Offensive Guard. It’s a mixed set. And one I love.
@@nicolas.p1750the further you get, the less useful damage skills become and the more useful utility skills are
@@majorasmask5523 so no affinity? I mean, not doubting that it's a fun set but running some affinity would likely be better than running attack stuff
Sns has tons of utility tho it's super cool. You can run defensive stuff like this or wide range support esque stuff or just a damage set or a Frost craft set, works with all status/element, etc etc.... awesome weapon for sure
(Coming from a GS main, used to play mostly sns tho)
Just play lance bruh
The kinsect buff is determined by the type of slinger ammo (which you need to preform the buff), not the kinsect itself. Damage buff from monster ammo and stamina buff from world ammo.
Hopefully this video add another member to the 11 Man Hunting Horn Council
I use horn but not always
I always felt Sword and Shield was something alot of people started with, then moved off it to try other stuff. Definitely easy to learn and it features stuff that carries over to other shielded weapons, but it took me a damn long time to actually MASTER the Sword and Shield. It took me trying out Insect Glaive (which I mained in vanilla World) and pretty much every other weapon for a long time before I eventually went back to try it out and with all the experience from other weapons the difference felt insane. Coming back to my first weapon with fresh eyes ended up turning SnS into my favorite weapon in EVERY Monster Hunter game that I've played. Even when I made a new save file and told myself I would use weapons I didn't spend as much time with I still ended up going back to it 😭