Sanderson sure looks like he doesn’t miss a meal while so many in other countries are struggling to survive. I wonder how many hours he spends going door to door 😡
@@Alanhock75 gluttony is a disallowingshipping offense that I have never seen in action. I've fed circuit overseers at my home and you better have a trough.
I always wondered about how many tonnes of paper was used, waisted, thrown into the landfills or burned. Really believe watchtower is one of the big players in the cause of global warming. Also imagine how many millions of gallons of gasoline was waisted and polluting the environment. All the tires that pollute the environment, they have used every resource that has made life difficult for this planet to breath. Displaced animals because of all their abuse of earth's resources. My prayer, God save us from those who say 'we are the one true religion approved to be saved by you'
How are non-witnesses any better at creating a peaceful planet to live on? From an obvious perspective our world is getting worse and worse with violence, hatred, and selfishness which are the complete opposite of what witnesses strive to live by.
This yearly hours requirement will inevitably backfire on them. Imagine when someone honestly bangs out the required hours in the first 4 months of the service year then goes on vacation and just Zoom’s meeting for the rest of the service year. Watchtower would obviously not want people maximizing “Jehovahs loving arrangement.”
Hahaha! Very true! I have one JW friend left who is a pioneer and works full time. She’s been pioneering for damn near 40 years single and miserable. She struggles and I believe lies about her service hours in order to stay on the list. Whenever I tell her to stop pioneering, she refuses and gets upset. But never offers a clear reason as to why not. I strongly suspect it’s because the title of pioneer is all she has to give her any respect or hold any weight in that cult as a single sister. Very sad.
There’s new light released on January 1st. Publisher’s can now have new bible studies with their pets. This is new light from Jehovah as we have channeled him. Isn’t this fantastic?
I personally would ENCOURAGE ALL JWS to STOP DONATING TO WATCHTOWER. And stand back and see 👀 for yourself HOW MUCH THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES RELY ON JEHOVAH. Test your OWN LEADERSHIP AND SEE WHAT THEY DO. STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY 💰...
I was raised in this Organization, I am in my 70's now. I have seen many changes, it is not the same place as when I was 5, nor am I that 5 year old anymore. My honest view over time is, Run For Your Life, like I did.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the field service hour requirement for regular publishers has been reduced from 10 hours a month to 15 MINUTES a month. Watchtower is doing all they can to keep JWs from abandoning ship.
This has nothing to do with trying to keep members. While there are no rules on how we count field service time, I have no idea where you got the 15minutes from. People today have no interest in our message and if you would notice we are not doing much door to door, work anymore. Before the end comes the preaching well change to an announcement of doom. Are we there yet? Time well tell. Don't get your undies in a bunch and think I am predicting the end. No one know that date except the true God.
I was a regular in 1997 and it was 90 hours. As you very well said, they will either do that or no one will be a pioneer anymore. Then you add the inflation and the cost of living that is so high right now, I imagine they are hurting even more. People are not going to pioneer with their children hungry at home. And unfortunately most witnesses didn’t go to school so they can’t afford to pioneer 60 hours and work more just to keep up the cost of living.
It's very different going out in service this day's. One people don't really like when someone knocks on their door unannounced. Crime and covid risk. The only real opportunity too make hours would be sitting around like a fool besides does cart will everyone just pass you by. Other is writing letters. Child abuse cases has put a real barrier to preaching work too
You need to get out of the past with this school thing. There was, never official rules that forbid higher education. There were some principals flagged as a precaution to those who chose to go to college. If you do the research, you will find the JW organization has sent some of its workers to college.
This is insane: donation so they can clean their closets; How about money, medicine, food , housing etc. please look at Red Cross and other religioins.........
Jesus gave food, bread and fish to 1,000's of people. He did not ask what their religious affiliations were. You are right Daniele and Sub Monkey. The watchtower are eager to take advantage of financial support from the world. If, according to the saying. "Money is the root of evil," why are they so determined to encourage the rank and file to donate donate donate and donate? Jesus said to the young man, "Go sell your belongings and give to the poor." Jesus example of love, giving, and compassion are unequalled.
@@paulanderson1614 So true. Our social responsibility as followers of Christ is more than just lip service. Big part of Christ's life & teachings is the humanitarian principle of helping everyone in need irrespective of ideologies. (Luke 10:25-37; Matthew 5:43-48)
I got baptized wayyyyyy back in 1996! I was a regular pioneer the following yr, as it was still (wait for it, wait for it) 90 hours a month! So now with there New Light, they reduced 40 hrs per month!
I love how they will craft painstaking definitions and drone on about their meaning for everyday words, but then they will gloss over the term "injunction application" as if its meaning should be intuitive to the viewer
What makes me so mad about this cult is that they tell you that you have to work tor merit to get into Heaven . Heaven is a gift , Free to those who Believe , therefore , no man shall boast .
Sanderson is part of the elite group; He doesn't get to go door to door. He is special. A bunch of blind bats, they just can't see the writing on the wall!
sanderson scares me the most .. i think him and splane are the evil masterminds , probably hate each other behind the scenes lett and morris are a joke but harmful . and the other just seem like journeymen... dont be surprised if as the rest of the body die off sanderson siezes control
Can you imagine the reaction of a Ukraine family opening a box of donated winter goods, only to find it filled with crayon drawings? I suppose it might provide a couple of minutes of slight warmth when tossed into a stove, but really?
This is so true ; its the members who gives donations as the elders makes it their duty to beg the members to donate towards a worthy cause ; seems they dont care about their own members struggling to survive during this pandemic still on here , some persons lost their job & have kids to raise as well
I thought that way, way back in the day, regular pioneers had to do 100 hours a month, and “vacation pioneers” had to do 90 hours. Then they changed it to “temporary pioneers” and lowered it to 75 hours. Then they changed it again, so pioneers had to put in 90 hours, and “auxiliary pioneers” only had to do 60 hours. Now it’s all the way down to 50 and 15 (in some months), and regular publishers have gone from 10 hours a month to 15 MINUTES a month. It is so obvious that “the handwriting is on the wall”, and that these are “the final part of the final part of the last days” of Watchtower.
I often asked ' WHERE does the Bible teach that Jesus wanted us to record hours and report them to a bunch of guys at headquarters. And to have data collection reported to them as well. I asked the elders what is the reason they were collecting this information. Their reply was to know the spiritual condition of the flock. I was out regularly and said to them ' Why not ask each person how they were doing? A stunned look came upon their faces. If the elders of past were alive they would have to conclude the spiritual condition of the publishers is down the toilet.
You can spend just 15 minutes every 6 months writing a letter and still be counted as an ‘active’ JW. You could easily take two years to finish a single letter at that rate. Talk about lowering the bar!
@@ronhansen8471 g’day Ron. My source is the Watchtower Study Ed. 2020 Jun p.18: "An inactive publisher is someone who has not reported any activity in the preaching and disciple-making work for six months or more."
Man I was auxiliary pioneering for years at something like 50 or 60 hours a month for every summer, and any school break I had. Not that I ever brought anyone in, luckily, but they're really trying to keep their volunteer hours looking good. I wonder if they've acknowledged that Burnout is stronger than Jehovah's Holy Spirit?
Hi Wally! I personally think it’s ironic that JWs would say any other organization making changes like that would be “lowering their standards“ but for JWs it’s a “loving provision from Jehovah” and say “we can see His blessing on our efforts”.
Also ironic that Mr. Walking Heart Attack plainly said it was a decision from the GOVERNING BODY. He didn't have a Bible in his hands, so he couldn't back it up spiritually. He didn't even TRY. He admits all the donations were from other countries/congregations THEN GB TAKES THE CREDIT!!! It's so obvious now, red flags everywhere!
On top of that, the "donations" aren't for suffering Ukrainians generally, but only go to Ukrainian congregations for their members . Jehovah's Witnesses are the opposite of Good Samaritans. They would never give large scale financial aid to suffering "worldly" (non Witness) people because they see them as condemned to death anyway. So charity is at best delaying the inevitable, and working against God's intentions for the wicked. At worst it's seen as taking away from money that should be preferentially donated to Watchtower to fund their own operations.
Omg !!! Yes I remember 😂 the famous ' doorstep study ' if you spoke twice to a person on a doorstep, even if it's to give them their magazine or speak for a minute ,it was a study 😂🤣😂🤣
Lowering a hourly threshold to acquire an artificial title to promote a gospel that denies their adherents the first century hope (Ephesians 4:4, Colossians 1:5) is all unbiblical.
Donated clothes from every one else and nothing out of Watchtower s pocket 🙄🙄🙄... Watchtower takes credit for the donated clothes!! Clap once... And clap twice
You know the way the JWs did a worldwide letter writing initiative to the Russian government? Ex JWs should plan something organized like that to the governments. I think doing that after what we are seeing going on in Norway and with the Spanish Association of Victims and all the court cases... I think its a perfect time to do something like that.
Ah, our sweet, wonderful Wally. Gotta say, seeing the beard and flat cap just feels like home (not that you don’t look great without it, just sayin). You are a true gem, and very loved! Happy New Year, and thank you for all you do!!
JWs would do well to remember that no where in the Bible is there an hour requirement for preaching. This is a man made requirement by a man made religion. It’s merely a title to make JWs feel they are even more special and important than their fellow publishers. A way to work your way up the corporate religious ladder. Imagine Jesus or the apostles being required to turn in a time slip.
In various jobs I worked at, I saw hard working people exploited for years with very little recognition. Then when they left or retired, the managers had to replace them with 2 people to do the same amount of work.
It's like this at my job. I work on an assembly line, if I called in tomorrow it would take 2 or 3 people doing what I normally do just to keep the line running.
Cheers Wally. I don't trust the report numbers myself. I remember Raymond Franz mentioning something about a "revolving door" when it came to the numbers in Crisis of Conscience.
You are right Wally, Those donations for Ukraine came from already strapped brothers and sisters, not WT. When will people wake up and see the reality?
@@exjehovahswitness No problem. I totally forgot about that phrase from 30 years ago. A friend of mine was wearing a t-shirt with a pic of the Canadian Parliament Bldgs. with that meme.
Back in the day Special Pioneer was expected to do at least 140 or 150 per month, not sure. When I was a pioneer in 1973-1975 it was 100 hours per month. Vacation, now Auxiliary pioneer was 75 hours per month. Regular publishers were expected to get at least 10 hours a month.
They were considering studying with your children as a bible study prior to the pandemic. I remember my ex made a big deal of studying w our kids bc of it so he could log more hours for us for status Lol
So much " crying ' murmuring ' shocking" About losing the financial benefits.... Can we imagine Crist being on trial In front of Cesar and asking him Hello Cesar, I,m shocking you didn't give me my money??? Crist went to court to defend justice. He didn't care about defending positions He didn't care about defending money. All this complaints looks really bad on WT Because Crist said: you will know the truth,and the truth will set you Free. 2 Timothy chapter 3 Is very clear about the religious leaders at the end times beeing lovers of money. And from them stay away. Crist never complaint about money... The end is near Crist is exposing what the religious leaders have inside their hearts 💕.
The Watchtower dare to use their own funds to help!!!! The members have to DONATE,DONATE,DONATE!!! THEY NEVER SAID THAT THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO PREACH...IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$!!
One day they will say :"We have an anoucement.It is so exciting ! You don't have to report any hour to be a Pioneer.You can be a publisher ,It is a privilage. You know that first Chrystians they all were publishers .... Wait a sec , were they?
Yet another set of reasons for waking up JWs. Helpful analysis for the indoctrinated! Love your deductions regarding the uneven standards and treatment by a "loving God". I would also add that life has become less onerous for humans over the decades. However, God has chosen to show mercy to his people today (instead of yesteryear), in an age of the following energy/time saving advancements : washing machines, microwave ovens, dish & clothes washers, dryers, speedy electronic & transportation devices, etc etc etc. A wonderful God indeed!!! Continuing with the logic, if a significant number of JWs rebel and leave on account of the shunning, it will just as swiftly end. You are a true agitator for social change.
Hi Wally and Zeezy..Jesus had nowhere to lay down his head.People all over the world are living like that.Children are starving and sick..And these selfish ,immature people are concerned about new buildings;about TV studios;about their legal battles where they have protected peadophiles,women bashers,liars etc.. I'm in tears watching this..I have never read God's Word in the way they play with it. Yes,the Bible says HIs(Father's) resting place would become glorious... But His resting place is not with wicked men and impostures,advancing from bad to worse-lying in His name.. Where is -Look after orphans and widows in their tribulations and keep oneself without spot from the world.. These ones are world business men..Selling halls to ones they run down as un christian and/or wicked,ignoring the pleas of those trodden down by manically laughing"so-called,elders"(these ones who know they lie in God's name-and keep doing it). May Father keep our tears in His skin bottle.He does see everything..The gaul of such attitudes towards ones with next to nothing(including calling them in for slave labour),is really sickening... Thanks to all who bring various facets of this group's(organisation's),2faced dealings to light. All please take care
A run of the mill baptised publisher didn’t officially have a monthly quota.. but if one consistently had single digit FS reports or below national average hours then one would be ‘encouraged’ to do more…
With such reduced hours, they're making it painfully apparent that the only motives for choosing to pioneer - the motives that they are stirring up in their followers to entice them into doing their will - are selfish and egotistical: so that you can carry the title of being a pioneer and be treated differently in the congregation. Because all the actual work that goes into pioneering can be done without signing up to get the title. They're creating prideful class systems and obscenely attributing them to God. Shameful!
My question to watchtower is: Why isn't the organization RELYING ON JEHOVAH? IF THEY RELIED ON THEIR POWERFUL GOD THEN THE GB WOULDN'T NEED LEGAL REPRESENTATION...Right JWS? After all the leadership tells you to rely on Jehovah solely, why can't the leadership?
i thought the urgency was ramping up? if that's the case, why are they lowering the hours for pioneers? shouldn't they be preaching more than ever since were in the last of the last of the last days?
One thing I do love about you Wally, is how you incorporate the actual videos of the JW org, and then explain if necessary. It is a way of decreasing bias. Obviously you aren't a fan but you still use their own words first then explain. 15.46 LMAO! And I appreciate the humour. It's not easy to be in or former members who are now dissociated, and levity/ comic relief is good so one doesn't get more and more upset/ miserable/ sad. I speak only from a friend of someone in the organisation...and the couple (one of whom has been promoted), who were doing the Bible study. It is just a shame I feel that after over a decade, said friend would discuss me, and be told not to listen to my area of expertise but were lovely to my face. Oh well. Tish happens!
Thanks Wally, my (now passed on) mother in law would only count her time when she was actually talking to someone about the kingdom and because of that she rarely pioneered because it stressed her out to get the hours in. I only ever auxiliaried a few times because I used to get so frustrated at how time was wasted. It was about titles, now it’s a publicity spin to encourage the members - because of course Jehovahs blessing the decisions made by the GB. In reality we all know most people were inventive with their reports and so the hours were meaningless and they still will be. The pandemic baby theory - yeah I can see that, I knew pioneers who started their time before the group met by asking unbaptised family members what was God’s name - I kid you not…
After doing a study (indoctrination) with them and then dropping out after covid I get great joy out of watching an organisation (cult), that destroys families, fall apart.👍👍👍👍
According to the shepherding book, if you speak with your disfellowshipped relative that does not live with you, you cannot be in an exemplary position....like pioneer. Jws will be all pumped to be eligible for this ridiculous "privilege", but it can be used against them.
Can some JW tell me why Almighty God is not apparently supporting the preaching work by giving pioneers "power beyond what is normal" to maintain, perhaps even increase the hours they are able to preach, when we are in the last minutes of the last days, and billions are about to be slaughtered? Instead of worrying about the billions about to die, God is seemingly much more concerned with the poor pioneers, who have to laboriously walk up and down streets knocking on doors, and flapping their gums up and down (extremely strenuous work). Reducing the hours of pioneers is so obviously a completely human thing being done by the governing body to try and keep the number of pioneers up and help foster the impression that this false religion is not going rapidly down the drain. I for one am very happy to see this religion collapse as they drown in their own falsehoods and nonsense. By the way, another great video for your channel. Very nice dialog. Easy to understand, yet complex and sophisticated. Keep up the good work please.
Oh look the consequences of my actions... Preventing ppl from gaining education and training so they could get better paying jobs and now because of inflation/economy they have to work more and can't pioneer on minimum wage... How surprising 😮💨
Do JW still fill out that little slip of paper and turn it in at the end of the month to record their field service time or has that been updated? I faded 25 years ago. I can believe that “turning in your time” seemed so normal to me.
We had an older pioneer in the mid otts saying they will lower the requirement. Well... we had talks on not starting rumors about the borg lowing the hours needed, at meeting with the CO, and at the circuit assembly! She did not tell a lot of people, btw. I think you experienced male privilege there Wally! Maybe just lucky, but you were an MS or elder, right? Anyway, have a good week!
Sanderson sure looks like he doesn’t miss a meal while so many in other countries are struggling to survive. I wonder how many hours he spends going door to door 😡
Apparently real food is in abundance at Bethel along with the spiritual food.
from one restaurant to the other
Bet he’s first at the table and always manages seconds, but that could be true of all the glutinous well fed GB!
@@Alanhock75 gluttony is a disallowingshipping offense that I have never seen in action. I've fed circuit overseers at my home and you better have a trough.
if that door is the fridge and the kitchen cupboards then he really spends alot of time at those doors
I feel sad when I think that they cut down living trees to build a cult buildings.
I guess the scripture about those destroying the earth will be destroyed themselves excludes the WT cutting down trees.
It's part of the ecosystem...living creatures will be effected by this as well.
I always wondered about how many tonnes of paper was used, waisted, thrown into the landfills or burned. Really believe watchtower is one of the big players in the cause of global warming. Also imagine how many millions of gallons of gasoline was waisted and polluting the environment. All the tires that pollute the environment, they have used every resource that has made life difficult for this planet to breath. Displaced animals because of all their abuse of earth's resources. My prayer, God save us from those who say 'we are the one true religion approved to be saved by you'
Watchtower couldn’t give a stuff about the environment, it will all be purified in the new system, what bullshit
How are non-witnesses any better at creating a peaceful planet to live on? From an obvious perspective our world is getting worse and worse with violence, hatred, and selfishness which are the complete opposite of what witnesses strive to live by.
This yearly hours requirement will inevitably backfire on them. Imagine when someone honestly bangs out the required hours in the first 4 months of the service year then goes on vacation and just Zoom’s meeting for the rest of the service year. Watchtower would obviously not want people maximizing “Jehovahs loving arrangement.”
You got it figured out. Yeah jws are a sorry bunch
That is so funny and so true! I’d love to be a fly on the wall for the shepherding call that would follow!
Hahaha! Very true!
I have one JW friend left who is a pioneer and works full time. She’s been pioneering for damn near 40 years single and miserable. She struggles and I believe lies about her service hours in order to stay on the list.
Whenever I tell her to stop pioneering, she refuses and gets upset. But never offers a clear reason as to why not. I strongly suspect it’s because the title of pioneer is all she has to give her any respect or hold any weight in that cult as a single sister.
Very sad.
What happened if the JW person has a situation that they need to zoom the meeting is that still wrong to do the meeting over zoom?
@@Kenbo53 according to Watchtower, if you are physically able to attend meetings in person, then you must go to be in good standings.
There’s new light released on January 1st. Publisher’s can now have new bible studies with their pets. This is new light from Jehovah as we have channeled him. Isn’t this fantastic?
🤣🤣🤣 why didn’t I think of that for all those years!!
I can just imagine how your cat would give you a look like 'are you kidding me, I don't care I just want to be left alone '!
Funny 😂
For real?!?!
Only if your pets are sheep and goats.
I personally would ENCOURAGE ALL JWS to STOP DONATING TO WATCHTOWER. And stand back and see 👀 for yourself HOW MUCH THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES RELY ON JEHOVAH. Test your OWN LEADERSHIP AND SEE WHAT THEY DO. STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY 💰...
Do something they don't like... start thinking for yourself.
I was raised in this Organization, I am in my 70's now. I have seen many changes, it is not the same place as when I was 5, nor am I that 5 year old anymore. My honest view over time is, Run For Your Life, like I did.
There will be many surprised individuals gnashing their teeth and nowhere to run.
Where it stands the EXJW’s groups are putting in more hours than the JW ‘s 😂😂😂 We need to start a Pioneering group too😂😂😂
Can we report by RUclips Watch Hours?
just for money
@@DarthMagog that would be awesome! I think I met the quota in one week. 😂
That's fucking hilarious
Can't stop laughing. But you guys are WORTH watching and listening to!!
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the field service hour requirement for regular publishers has been reduced from 10 hours a month to 15 MINUTES a month. Watchtower is doing all they can to keep JWs from abandoning ship.
This has nothing to do with trying to keep members. While there are no rules on how we count field service time, I have no idea where you got the 15minutes from. People today have no interest in our message and if you would notice we are not doing much door to door, work anymore. Before the end comes the preaching well change to an announcement of doom. Are we there yet? Time well tell. Don't get your undies in a bunch and think I am predicting the end. No one know that date except the true God.
I was a regular in 1997 and it was 90 hours. As you very well said, they will either do that or no one will be a pioneer anymore. Then you add the inflation and the cost of living that is so high right now, I imagine they are hurting even more. People are not going to pioneer with their children hungry at home. And unfortunately most witnesses didn’t go to school so they can’t afford to pioneer 60 hours and work more just to keep up the cost of living.
It's very different going out in service this day's. One people don't really like when someone knocks on their door unannounced. Crime and covid risk. The only real opportunity too make hours would be sitting around like a fool besides does cart will everyone just pass you by. Other is writing letters. Child abuse cases has put a real barrier to preaching work too
People will pioneer and let their kids starve.
@@charrua59 - many are counting their time at home on the internet spreading their JW,Org website and debating doctrine.
You need to get out of the past with this school thing. There was, never official rules that forbid higher education. There were some principals flagged as a precaution to those who chose to go to college. If you do the research, you will find the JW organization has sent some of its workers to college.
This is insane: donation so they can clean their closets; How about money, medicine, food , housing etc. please look at Red Cross and other religioins.........
I super agree at least the red cross helps people not Watchtower
Jesus gave food, bread and fish to 1,000's of people. He did not ask what their religious affiliations were. You are right Daniele and Sub Monkey. The watchtower are eager to take advantage of financial support from the world. If, according to the saying. "Money is the root of evil," why are they so determined to encourage the rank and file to donate donate donate and donate? Jesus said to the young man, "Go sell your belongings and give to the poor." Jesus example of love, giving, and compassion are unequalled.
@@paulanderson1614 So true. Our social responsibility as followers of Christ is more than just lip service. Big part of Christ's life & teachings is the humanitarian principle of helping everyone in need irrespective of ideologies. (Luke 10:25-37; Matthew 5:43-48)
I got baptized wayyyyyy back in 1996! I was a regular pioneer the following yr, as it was still (wait for it, wait for it) 90 hours a month! So now with there New Light, they reduced 40 hrs per month!
I remember when I would pioneer every summer one month and it was 100 hrs. Way back in the day!
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50hours per month for regular pioneers and 30 for publishers
Don't forget, children are not viewed by these clutzes as unbaptized publishers. They are viewed by them as enemies of god
true
If there's one thing Watchtower is good at, it's preying....not a mispelling
I love how they will craft painstaking definitions and drone on about their meaning for everyday words, but then they will gloss over the term "injunction application" as if its meaning should be intuitive to the viewer
Didn’t want to comment but i have to admit this guy is on point 100%
Good morning Wally! It always makes my day when I see a new video from you! Hope you have a fantastic weekend!!! 🥰
What makes me so mad about this cult is that they tell you that you have to work tor merit to get into Heaven . Heaven is a gift , Free to those who Believe , therefore , no man shall boast .
Sanderson is part of the elite group; He doesn't get to go door to door. He is special.
A bunch of blind bats, they just can't see the writing on the wall!
What a waste of trees in flattening them for their dopey centre!
yeah it's really sad
Brother Sanderson is giving a fine example of how to address a class of five year olds.
and this is how jesus wants to communicate
sanderson scares me the most .. i think him and splane are the evil masterminds , probably hate each other behind the scenes
lett and morris are a joke but harmful . and the other just seem like journeymen...
dont be surprised if as the rest of the body die off sanderson siezes control
@@seansrecords That wouldn’t surprise me. After all, Sanderson is currently the youngest member of the Governing Body.
Can you imagine the reaction of a Ukraine family opening a box of donated winter goods, only to find it filled with crayon drawings? I suppose it might provide a couple of minutes of slight warmth when tossed into a stove, but really?
Someone has to inform the Norwegian court that is not the watchtower who donates but the people
This is so true ; its the members who gives donations as the elders makes it their duty to beg the members to donate towards a worthy cause ; seems they dont care about their own members struggling to survive during this pandemic still on here , some persons lost their job & have kids to raise as well
Fascinating how we all come from different niches and paths with religious experiences. And then moving on from them
yeah we come from all over
I thought that way, way back in the day, regular pioneers had to do 100 hours a month, and “vacation pioneers” had to do 90 hours. Then they changed it to “temporary pioneers” and lowered it to 75 hours. Then they changed it again, so pioneers had to put in 90 hours, and “auxiliary pioneers” only had to do 60 hours. Now it’s all the way down to 50 and 15 (in some months), and regular publishers have gone from 10 hours a month to 15 MINUTES a month. It is so obvious that “the handwriting is on the wall”, and that these are “the final part of the final part of the last days” of Watchtower.
it is the last days!
As a former unbaptized JW publisher 10hrs a month was too much
yeah most averaged about 6-12
I always had fictitious bible studies and return calls I used “ go on” but instead headed for the cafe.loads of hours on paper but in actual fact non
I often asked ' WHERE does the Bible teach that Jesus wanted us to record hours and report them to a bunch of guys at headquarters. And to have data collection reported to them as well. I asked the elders what is the reason they were collecting this information. Their reply was to know the spiritual condition of the flock. I was out regularly and said to them ' Why not ask each person how they were doing? A stunned look came upon their faces. If the elders of past were alive they would have to conclude the spiritual condition of the publishers is down the toilet.
I always did 15 hours, y’all we’re lazy regular JWs 😂😂😂😂😂
You can spend just 15 minutes every 6 months writing a letter and still be counted as an ‘active’ JW. You could easily take two years to finish a single letter at that rate.
Talk about lowering the bar!
Clearly shows they desperate to scramble up the "active" members numbers.
It’s called the “Limbo Stick Study”. A New Light “adjustment”🎉
@@gbnomore3918 😂😂😂Not the “New Light” bs👀
I do not know where you got the idea about active verse inactive field service. I believe the time is 15 minutes per month minimum.
@@ronhansen8471 g’day Ron. My source is the Watchtower Study Ed. 2020 Jun p.18:
"An inactive publisher is someone who has not reported any activity in the preaching and disciple-making work for six months or more."
I love listening to you, you have an interesting personality. Cheers!
Man I was auxiliary pioneering for years at something like 50 or 60 hours a month for every summer, and any school break I had. Not that I ever brought anyone in, luckily, but they're really trying to keep their volunteer hours looking good. I wonder if they've acknowledged that Burnout is stronger than Jehovah's Holy Spirit?
Thanks!
thank you so much!
Hi Wally!
I personally think it’s ironic that JWs would say any other organization making changes like that would be “lowering their standards“ but for JWs it’s a “loving provision from Jehovah” and say “we can see His blessing on our efforts”.
Also ironic that Mr. Walking Heart Attack plainly said it was a decision from the GOVERNING BODY. He didn't have a Bible in his hands, so he couldn't back it up spiritually. He didn't even TRY. He admits all the donations were from other countries/congregations THEN GB TAKES THE CREDIT!!! It's so obvious now, red flags everywhere!
On top of that, the "donations" aren't for suffering Ukrainians generally, but only go to Ukrainian congregations for their members . Jehovah's Witnesses are the opposite of Good Samaritans. They would never give large scale financial aid to suffering "worldly" (non Witness) people because they see them as condemned to death anyway. So charity is at best delaying the inevitable, and working against God's intentions for the wicked. At worst it's seen as taking away from money that should be preferentially donated to Watchtower to fund their own operations.
I never pressed play so fast! I'm glad you're back! You're the only exjw I watch and love your perspective.
I appreciate that!
Omg !!! Yes I remember 😂 the famous ' doorstep study ' if you spoke twice to a person on a doorstep, even if it's to give them their magazine or speak for a minute ,it was a study 😂🤣😂🤣
I almost got DF’ed from a crooked elder that said he had a door step study with one of my neighbours that hated me and complained about me
Lowering a hourly threshold to acquire an artificial title to promote a gospel that denies their adherents the first century hope (Ephesians 4:4, Colossians 1:5) is all unbiblical.
Agreed. And they claim they're bible-based, and that they're not antichrist. Hmmmm...🤔
The Lord will repay.
God bless my friend.
🍃✝️🍃❤️
New light states you can even have a Bible study with yourself whilst sitting on the toilet.
Donated clothes from every one else and nothing out of Watchtower s pocket 🙄🙄🙄... Watchtower takes credit for the donated clothes!! Clap once... And clap twice
So glad to be out of there, I use to lie about my publisher hours so I didn’t feel the pressure woke up and was like I’m pleasing man not God.
yeah reporting time makes no sense
You know the way the JWs did a worldwide letter writing initiative to the Russian government?
Ex JWs should plan something organized like that to the governments. I think doing that after what we are seeing going on in Norway and with the Spanish Association of Victims and all the court cases...
I think its a perfect time to do something like that.
I agree!
the world wide letter writing to Russian Government clogged up the mailing system and it was shut down.
How can we make this happen?
Please watch the Australian Royal Commission and the truth will set you free!
Good morning Wally! stopping by to share love! ❤
Have a great weekend!
The end is coming but it ain't for the apostates.. The old jehoovers are closing down slowly but surely
Yep getting more and more clearly it's over for watchtower.
Ah, our sweet, wonderful Wally. Gotta say, seeing the beard and flat cap just feels like home (not that you don’t look great without it, just sayin). You are a true gem, and very loved! Happy New Year, and thank you for all you do!!
Happy birthday month! Thanks for all the videos
thank you
JWs would do well to remember that no where in the Bible is there an hour requirement for preaching. This is a man made requirement by a man made religion. It’s merely a title to make JWs feel they are even more special and important than their fellow publishers. A way to work your way up the corporate religious ladder. Imagine Jesus or the apostles being required to turn in a time slip.
However they need money for Ramapoo donations..............
I always say thankfully I never conditioned anyone to join the cult.
In various jobs I worked at, I saw hard working people exploited for years with very little recognition. Then when they left or retired, the managers had to replace them with 2 people to do the same amount of work.
you have to treat your best people right!
It's like this at my job. I work on an assembly line, if I called in tomorrow it would take 2 or 3 people doing what I normally do just to keep the line running.
Great Job
Cheers Wally. I don't trust the report numbers myself. I remember Raymond Franz mentioning something about a "revolving door" when it came to the numbers in Crisis of Conscience.
They really insult any of their members who have any of intelligence.
Children being baptised ,will get their numbers up !
Love you!!!😊💛
thank you
Is it me or does Mark Sanderson look like a guy who drives a white van with no windows. And offers candy. 🤔
blankstare!
You are right Wally, Those donations for Ukraine came from already strapped brothers and sisters, not WT. When will people wake up and see the reality?
Thanks Wally. My family is still soaking up all this propaganda, it makes me weep. Keep up the great work and have a very Happy Birthday 🥳😊
It is funny that he said that are grateful to Jehovah instead of the Oslo supreme court.
I love the fact that Jehovah is confused and he has to keep changing the rules
Yes Wally, because I beg for years to be a pioneer and they told me no, but after the pandemic supposedly end hallelujah I can be a pioneer now
GB takes everything...except the blame.
I am going to steal that phrase!
@@exjehovahswitness No problem. I totally forgot about that phrase from 30 years ago. A friend of mine was wearing a t-shirt with a pic of the Canadian Parliament Bldgs. with that meme.
Back in the day Special Pioneer was expected to do at least 140 or 150 per month, not sure. When I was a pioneer in 1973-1975 it was 100 hours per month. Vacation, now Auxiliary pioneer was 75 hours per month. Regular publishers were expected to get at least 10 hours a month.
Nobody forced them. During twenty years being active I tried to be balanced about field service.
17:55 actually a regular publisher in good standing required 10 hours/month.
yeah that is how it was when I was in 5 years ago
They were considering studying with your children as a bible study prior to the pandemic. I remember my ex made a big deal of studying w our kids bc of it so he could log more hours for us for status Lol
Status is really what it’s all about in the kingdum hall
As an ex-JW I can not be proud of them anymore. And they brag about destroying so much of the peaceful nature around Ramapo. It is just so cultish!
at every turn they choose to do the wrong things...
Thank you for clearing that up the legal case in Norway, I thought they got their funding back. Keep up the amazing work!
So much " crying ' murmuring ' shocking"
About losing the financial benefits....
Can we imagine Crist being on trial
In front of Cesar and asking him
Hello Cesar, I,m shocking you didn't give me my money???
Crist went to court to defend justice.
He didn't care about defending positions
He didn't care about defending money.
All this complaints looks really bad on WT
Because Crist said: you will know the truth,and the truth will set you Free.
2 Timothy chapter 3
Is very clear about the religious leaders at the end times beeing lovers of money.
And from them stay away.
Crist never complaint about money...
The end is near Crist is exposing what the religious leaders have inside their hearts 💕.
They, well eventually. Look at what happened in Italy. Of course, the world's religions could be shut down and it won't matter.
Happy birthday, Wally!
The Watchtower dare to use their own funds to help!!!! The members have to DONATE,DONATE,DONATE!!! THEY NEVER SAID THAT THEY'RE STILL ALLOWED TO PREACH...IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$!!
They members do everything! Clean, construction, witnessing, donate, and tithe (even though they say it’s not) they use people, it’s sad!
This cult destroyed my childhood and relationships with my family.
mine too....
Mine too. I'm happy I'm out of there.
I agree with you, I think this is reactionary. Sanderson almost pleads, twice, asking pioneers to stay pioneers
One day they will say :"We have an anoucement.It is so exciting ! You don't have to report any hour to be a Pioneer.You can be a publisher ,It is a privilage. You know that first Chrystians they all were publishers .... Wait a sec , were they?
Yet another set of reasons for waking up JWs. Helpful analysis for the indoctrinated! Love your deductions regarding the uneven standards and treatment by a "loving God". I would also add that life has become less onerous for humans over the decades. However, God has chosen to show mercy to his people today (instead of yesteryear), in an age of the following energy/time saving advancements : washing machines, microwave ovens, dish & clothes washers, dryers, speedy electronic & transportation devices, etc etc etc. A wonderful God indeed!!!
Continuing with the logic, if a significant number of JWs rebel and leave on account of the shunning, it will just as swiftly end. You are a true agitator for social change.
A lot of unemployment and a lot people are working from home, so I think that contributes to more people being able to become Pioneers as well
very true
When I was a pioneer back in the 90's, it was 90 hours per month.... anyway, the governing body members have lost it.....
that's crazy it's been cut in half just in our lifetime
Hi Wally and Zeezy..Jesus had nowhere to lay down his head.People all over the world are living like that.Children are starving and sick..And these selfish ,immature people are concerned about new buildings;about TV studios;about their legal battles where they have protected peadophiles,women bashers,liars etc..
I'm in tears watching this..I have never read God's Word in the way they play with it.
Yes,the Bible says HIs(Father's) resting place would become glorious...
But His resting place is not with wicked men and impostures,advancing from bad to worse-lying in His name..
Where is -Look after orphans and widows in their tribulations and keep oneself without spot from the world..
These ones are world business men..Selling halls to ones they run down as un christian and/or wicked,ignoring the pleas of those trodden down by manically laughing"so-called,elders"(these ones who know they lie in God's name-and keep doing it).
May Father keep our tears in His skin bottle.He does see everything..The gaul of such attitudes towards ones with next to nothing(including calling them in for slave labour),is really sickening...
Thanks to all who bring various facets of this group's(organisation's),2faced dealings to light.
All please take care
A run of the mill baptised publisher didn’t officially have a monthly quota..
but if one consistently had single digit FS reports or below national average hours then one would be ‘encouraged’ to do more…
They will definitely cook their numbers. They do a lot of that.
With such reduced hours, they're making it painfully apparent that the only motives for choosing to pioneer - the motives that they are stirring up in their followers to entice them into doing their will - are selfish and egotistical: so that you can carry the title of being a pioneer and be treated differently in the congregation. Because all the actual work that goes into pioneering can be done without signing up to get the title. They're creating prideful class systems and obscenely attributing them to God. Shameful!
My question to watchtower is: Why isn't the organization RELYING ON JEHOVAH? IF THEY RELIED ON THEIR POWERFUL GOD THEN THE GB WOULDN'T NEED LEGAL REPRESENTATION...Right JWS? After all the leadership tells you to rely on Jehovah solely, why can't the leadership?
they are masons ,they are for the for the new world order ,new world tranlation bible, new order,get it they are fraud.
Is a *CULT*
i thought the urgency was ramping up? if that's the case, why are they lowering the hours for pioneers? shouldn't they be preaching more than ever since were in the last of the last of the last days?
seems like they are starting to notice that the end is not close
One thing I do love about you Wally, is how you incorporate the actual videos of the JW org, and then explain if necessary. It is a way of decreasing bias. Obviously you aren't a fan but you still use their own words first then explain.
15.46 LMAO! And I appreciate the humour. It's not easy to be in or former members who are now dissociated, and levity/ comic relief is good so one doesn't get more and more upset/ miserable/ sad.
I speak only from a friend of someone in the organisation...and the couple (one of whom has been promoted), who were doing the Bible study. It is just a shame I feel that after over a decade, said friend would discuss me, and be told not to listen to my area of expertise but were lovely to my face. Oh well. Tish happens!
He shows the video and then uses creative journalism to twist the truth.
The GB.... ain't starving that's for sure
that much is clear
If they collectively pray for a positive outcome and they get a negative outcome... what does that tell ya 😎
Thanks Wally, my (now passed on) mother in law would only count her time when she was actually talking to someone about the kingdom and because of that she rarely pioneered because it stressed her out to get the hours in. I only ever auxiliaried a few times because I used to get so frustrated at how time was wasted. It was about titles, now it’s a publicity spin to encourage the members - because of course Jehovahs blessing the decisions made by the GB. In reality we all know most people were inventive with their reports and so the hours were meaningless and they still will be. The pandemic baby theory - yeah I can see that, I knew pioneers who started their time before the group met by asking unbaptised family
members what was God’s name - I kid you not…
Am I the first? Why I still want to know new sick stuff of JW? After so many years I want to know how insane they are. And I feel then better 😂
After doing a study (indoctrination) with them and then dropping out after covid I get great joy out of watching an organisation (cult), that destroys families, fall apart.👍👍👍👍
According to the shepherding book, if you speak with your disfellowshipped relative that does not live with you, you cannot be in an exemplary position....like pioneer. Jws will be all pumped to be eligible for this ridiculous "privilege", but it can be used against them.
oh true I forgot about that
I am still preaching. That's what the Bible says.
OMG the GB are in panic mode! I'm dead! 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦
they really are
The "anointed" are terrible actors.
With those kinds of hour requirements, heck, disfellowshipped people can pioneer
Next years requirements will be having signed up for the email newsletter
Which babies? Not those “little enemies of God?” 😂
so unaware
Granting an injunction by Satan's world.
Can some JW tell me why Almighty God is not apparently supporting the preaching work by giving pioneers "power beyond what is normal" to maintain, perhaps even increase the hours they are able to preach, when we are in the last minutes of the last days, and billions are about to be slaughtered? Instead of worrying about the billions about to die, God is seemingly much more concerned with the poor pioneers, who have to laboriously walk up and down streets knocking on doors, and flapping their gums up and down (extremely strenuous work).
Reducing the hours of pioneers is so obviously a completely human thing being done by the governing body to try and keep the number of pioneers up and help foster the impression that this false religion is not going rapidly down the drain. I for one am very happy to see this religion collapse as they drown in their own falsehoods and nonsense.
By the way, another great video for your channel. Very nice dialog. Easy to understand, yet complex and sophisticated. Keep up the good work please.
good points and thank you
I don’t know how anyone takes them seriously anymore 😂😂
Hey - Happy Happy Birthday Month Wally xx Rock on Tommy xx
Watchtower is desperate. They have been losing pioneers right and left.
Oh look the consequences of my actions... Preventing ppl from gaining education and training so they could get better paying jobs and now because of inflation/economy they have to work more and can't pioneer on minimum wage... How surprising 😮💨
who could have seen this coming?!
They have never been a charity . It is not a giving religion , it is a taking cult
Do JW still fill out that little slip of paper and turn it in at the end of the month to record their field service time or has that been updated? I faded 25 years ago. I can believe that “turning in your time” seemed so normal to me.
yeah turning in time is so unchristian!
We had an older pioneer in the mid otts saying they will lower the requirement. Well... we had talks on not starting rumors about the borg lowing the hours needed, at meeting with the CO, and at the circuit assembly! She did not tell a lot of people, btw.
I think you experienced male privilege there Wally! Maybe just lucky, but you were an MS or elder, right?
Anyway, have a good week!