I had a customer in our shop around a month ago she drives a BMW . She picked up a nail in on of her rear tires which was a run flat her TPMs light came on the dash she came in right away and the tire was only down a few lbs. she went to 3 shops and a dealership they all refused her service they didn’t even try to help in any way not even offering to air it up . Her tire was repairable and we fixed her up there was no damage to the inner liner or the casing of the tire we saved her 400+ dollars and gained a customer for life.
That's right, they can still be repaired just like how she found you guys, i plugged mines and it was a Bitch I had to put my whole body weight on it, but it stay for the duration of the tire life so it works, so yes they can be repaired.
@@elmomartinez7868 My 1st car was in the family for over a decade by the time I sold it on. One of the rear tyres had a plug repair that was 5 years old when I first drove it and when I got rid of it over 6 years old the tyre was still fine all those years later. Better yet my 2nd car had a Continetal premium contact 2 on both sides of the rear axle the 1st one got a screw in it and lost only 1 PSI a week and was plugged but by the time it was due a MOT was on 2.1mm of tread so was replaced. The other which was on 3.5mm of tread got a nail in it which took months to notice as it was only losing 1 PSI per 4 weeks/month. Eventually they were both replaced but my god were the Continetals tough.
Sometimes ignoring policy is a better policy. Sometimes it makes sense to abide by policy, but most of the time they're drafted up by some Karen who is (usually justified) trying to avoid a lawsuit.
@@ImmaSaveUFromMe Being a family owned and operated business means we can do things big box stores and dealerships cannot. We have been in the tire business since the mid 70s . No one ( at least ) in my local area will repair a tire . I understand that it can be a liability. And the dealerships don’t have time to fix them and most of the chains lack the knowledge and the proper repairs . I myself have saved thousands of tires if not hundreds of thousands
If a run flat tire has not been driven on while flat, it is taken off the rim and inspected to make sure there is no internal degradation, a nail hole repair can be done on a run flat tire. The only main difference between a run flat tire and a regular tire is that the sidewall is thicker.
Flew to Michigan to buy a Corvette. Scared to drive it to Florida with Run Flats on holiday weekend. A flat means stranded for days because nobody stocks my size tire. I made it home and trashed those Run Flats quickly.
For clarification, a run flat tire is meant to be much more durable than a normal tire so that you can safely drive to a location to get yourself situated with your vehicle. It's true that run flat tires CAN be repaired successfully. However, run flat damage is DIFFICULT to spot while the tire is still mounted on the WHEEL. If a run flat tire is dismounted from the wheel at a tire shop and it turns out it can't be repaired, tire shops normally will refuse to put the tire back on to avoid liability. So basically, some tire shops outright REFUSE to fix run flat tires because it is highly likely that if they take it off they will find that the tire is no good.
You said it yourself, you tried to destroy the tyre and that is what it has produced, perhaps your next test might be to puncture a run flat and repair it straight away then run it for 25k trying to destroy it and then let's see the results. As always your knowledge on the subject is invaluable.
i have another point though. About tyre groove depths. I saw that the Hankook Kinergy 4S2 was at some point ranked better than Michelin CrossClimate 2. I have been looking into Hankooks groove various groove depths and my assumption is that the Hankook will loose some advantages as the thread wears out and some grooves will dissappear. It would be interresting to see both tyres compared in midlife. As the Michelins CC2 grooves are really deep and the tyre will deliver consistent results throughout livespan. Same cannot be said about Hankook. And to the RunFlats - it saved me twice already on my BMW. Once blowing front tyre against steel sharp object immediatelly deflating tyre. would steer into incoming traffic not having RFT and be able to control the vehicle
A tubeless tire will not deflate immediately even when punctured. I had a pothole damage on my E90 with regular tires. The damage is a tear about 1cm long.
OR, you can follow the manufacturer specifications because some will allow repairs. And of course, visually inspect tire. Always use a plug/patch combo
Surely it's a stretch to go from "you should never repair a runflat that's been driven flat beyond its specifications and now has internally visible damage" to "you should never repair a runflat [even if it's only been run flat for a short distance or even not at all]"?
Not sure if you take comments and make videos from them so just a thought. Im really curious how a run flat compares to an extra load tire in pot holes or road hazards. Will the run flat tire protect the rim more vs the XL or SL tire?
I had that blue discoloration on the outside edges of my rear motorcycle tire when i was fuel station hopping because i had a puncture and was trying to get home.
That's great info, except, how would anyone know that the tire is damaged if the tire is never dismounted from the wheel? About 1 of 10 cars I get from auction come with at least one puncture, I just stuff a plug in the hole and add air
Unfortunately a lot of German cars come with them since they don’t even put a spare trying to make you pay extra for one. All they include is those slime flat patch kits and a tiny air pump
That run flat tyre is pretty much repairable its the ones that are military spec which are not repairable usually mil spec has hard rubber inside glued inside they don't make those separately
Run-flat tires are better/stronger than regular tires! As long as you treat them as regular ones, aka, don’t run too much (as shown in the video), they are REPAIRABLE! Don’t confuse people please!
That’s not a run flat,that’s a tire that has been run while flat. You can repair run flats and sound suppression foam tires and it’s not illegal,but you cannot repair a tire that has been ran while flat. Not that I know anything or do them for a living
So you abused the tire to no end and make a conclusion it shouldnt😢be repaired? If you do that to a normal tire it would be fully destroyed and would come off the wheel completely. If you treat a run flat carefully after a puncture and just limp to a safe place it would be perfectly repairable. There is nothing special about it except very hard walls. Same goes for Dunlop motorcycle race tires, you run them at just 1.2 bar at the rear as they have very hard walls. Pirellis on other end are 2.5 bar
🤣😂 Well of course if you go out of your way to beat the living hell out of the damn thing ... yeah, you might want to pass on THAT one. You do realize that's not every situation right? Nail in the tread, owner notices it, remove tire, take to shop, zero issue fixing that puncture. It's called discretion. Video designed to scare the uninformed into buying tires when they might not need to.
I had a customer in our shop around a month ago she drives a BMW . She picked up a nail in on of her rear tires which was a run flat her TPMs light came on the dash she came in right away and the tire was only down a few lbs. she went to 3 shops and a dealership they all refused her service they didn’t even try to help in any way not even offering to air it up . Her tire was repairable and we fixed her up there was no damage to the inner liner or the casing of the tire we saved her 400+ dollars and gained a customer for life.
That's right, they can still be repaired just like how she found you guys, i plugged mines and it was a Bitch I had to put my whole body weight on it, but it stay for the duration of the tire life so it works, so yes they can be repaired.
@@elmomartinez7868 My 1st car was in the family for over a decade by the time I sold it on. One of the rear tyres had a plug repair that was 5 years old when I first drove it and when I got rid of it over 6 years old the tyre was still fine all those years later. Better yet my 2nd car had a Continetal premium contact 2 on both sides of the rear axle the 1st one got a screw in it and lost only 1 PSI a week and was plugged but by the time it was due a MOT was on 2.1mm of tread so was replaced. The other which was on 3.5mm of tread got a nail in it which took months to notice as it was only losing 1 PSI per 4 weeks/month. Eventually they were both replaced but my god were the Continetals tough.
Exactly! Just don't run the tire with no air in first place like a regular tire and with not damage inside you can just patched like a regular tire.
Sometimes ignoring policy is a better policy. Sometimes it makes sense to abide by policy, but most of the time they're drafted up by some Karen who is (usually justified) trying to avoid a lawsuit.
@@ImmaSaveUFromMe Being a family owned and operated business means we can do things big box stores and dealerships cannot. We have been in the tire business since the mid 70s . No one ( at least ) in my local area will repair a tire . I understand that it can be a liability. And the dealerships don’t have time to fix them and most of the chains lack the knowledge and the proper repairs . I myself have saved thousands of tires if not hundreds of thousands
This format is absolutely brilliant i hope you can make more of them.
If a run flat tire has not been driven on while flat, it is taken off the rim and inspected to make sure there is no internal degradation, a nail hole repair can be done on a run flat tire. The only main difference between a run flat tire and a regular tire is that the sidewall is thicker.
Flew to Michigan to buy a Corvette. Scared to drive it to Florida with Run Flats on holiday weekend. A flat means stranded for days because nobody stocks my size tire. I made it home and trashed those Run Flats quickly.
Bridgestone technical in the UK allow runflat repairs and offer the service through their authorised dealers. Usual UK guidelines apply.
Thanks for the info Jonathan. Very interesting 👍
For clarification, a run flat tire is meant to be much more durable than a normal tire so that you can safely drive to a location to get yourself situated with your vehicle. It's true that run flat tires CAN be repaired successfully. However, run flat damage is DIFFICULT to spot while the tire is still mounted on the WHEEL. If a run flat tire is dismounted from the wheel at a tire shop and it turns out it can't be repaired, tire shops normally will refuse to put the tire back on to avoid liability. So basically, some tire shops outright REFUSE to fix run flat tires because it is highly likely that if they take it off they will find that the tire is no good.
But that's ONLY if you've run it flat...
You said it yourself, you tried to destroy the tyre and that is what it has produced, perhaps your next test might be to puncture a run flat and repair it straight away then run it for 25k trying to destroy it and then let's see the results. As always your knowledge on the subject is invaluable.
i have another point though. About tyre groove depths. I saw that the Hankook Kinergy 4S2 was at some point ranked better than Michelin CrossClimate 2. I have been looking into Hankooks groove various groove depths and my assumption is that the Hankook will loose some advantages as the thread wears out and some grooves will dissappear. It would be interresting to see both tyres compared in midlife. As the Michelins CC2 grooves are really deep and the tyre will deliver consistent results throughout livespan. Same cannot be said about Hankook. And to the RunFlats - it saved me twice already on my BMW. Once blowing front tyre against steel sharp object immediatelly deflating tyre. would steer into incoming traffic not having RFT and be able to control the vehicle
A tubeless tire will not deflate immediately even when punctured. I had a pothole damage on my E90 with regular tires. The damage is a tear about 1cm long.
@@ShuotongLi i've had tyre tear on sidewall 7cm long! yes it did deflate immediatelly
OR, you can follow the manufacturer specifications because some will allow repairs. And of course, visually inspect tire. Always use a plug/patch combo
Surely it's a stretch to go from "you should never repair a runflat that's been driven flat beyond its specifications and now has internally visible damage" to "you should never repair a runflat [even if it's only been run flat for a short distance or even not at all]"?
Exactly, we just have a slow leak in ours
I would think if you haven't run on it flat it should be repairable. That is only if you have run on it flat or very low pressure.
Not sure if you take comments and make videos from them so just a thought. Im really curious how a run flat compares to an extra load tire in pot holes or road hazards. Will the run flat tire protect the rim more vs the XL or SL tire?
I had that blue discoloration on the outside edges of my rear motorcycle tire when i was fuel station hopping because i had a puncture and was trying to get home.
Its not run-flats that we dont repair but tires that have been ran flat
Well said!
He didn't even answer the question, just damaged this tire until it was not repairable
That's great info, except, how would anyone know that the tire is damaged if the tire is never dismounted from the wheel? About 1 of 10 cars I get from auction come with at least one puncture, I just stuff a plug in the hole and add air
Car insurance will not pay out in death for tyres older than 4 years, check out michellin court case in paul walker death u will see.
Don’t buy runflats. Just don’t.
Very very true
I love my Michelin Spot run flats
Unfortunately a lot of German cars come with them since they don’t even put a spare trying to make you pay extra for one. All they include is those slime flat patch kits and a tiny air pump
People who have never owned run flats giving advice. Awful 😅
Dude my Mini Cooper came with run flats because it has no spare. Tf we supposed to do, stay on the side of the road and call a wrecker 🙄?
What about if its punctured but never went flat and driven on! 💯 % repairable!!!
But if you drive flat you’re damage the interior tire 🛞 but if you can fix before the tire are flat is ok
That run flat tyre is pretty much repairable its the ones that are military spec which are not repairable usually mil spec has hard rubber inside glued inside they don't make those separately
“This is why you should never have run flat tires”- FIFY
That’s only if you run it completely flat. He left that bit of info out.
What's a runflat?
a tyre that could still run on flats (puncture/deflated)
It's not illegal in most states. If they refuse its bx its not worth the money it doesn't pay
Run-flat tires are better/stronger than regular tires! As long as you treat them as regular ones, aka, don’t run too much (as shown in the video), they are REPAIRABLE! Don’t confuse people please!
Well why does the title say certain locations if not at any type of locations
Thanks for sharing.
That’s not a run flat,that’s a tire that has been run while flat. You can repair run flats and sound suppression foam tires and it’s not illegal,but you cannot repair a tire that has been ran while flat. Not that I know anything or do them for a living
So you abused the tire to no end and make a conclusion it shouldnt😢be repaired? If you do that to a normal tire it would be fully destroyed and would come off the wheel completely. If you treat a run flat carefully after a puncture and just limp to a safe place it would be perfectly repairable. There is nothing special about it except very hard walls. Same goes for Dunlop motorcycle race tires, you run them at just 1.2 bar at the rear as they have very hard walls. Pirellis on other end are 2.5 bar
They refuse to repair a punctured run flat that has not ran on flat!
You shouldn't repair a run flat because if you absolutely abuse it and run it past its safety limits it can be damaged? Somethings not adding up here.
No shit when you abuse the tire like that. Anyone that has knowledge of their run flat is low that person won’t be an idiot
Just repairs my run flat and no problems. This is fake test because no one is pushing their daily driver on a fckn race track🤣
Best thing to do with run flats, is to not even buy them
too bad you didnt run the test with nails embedded in the tires
🤣😂 Well of course if you go out of your way to beat the living hell out of the damn thing ... yeah, you might want to pass on THAT one. You do realize that's not every situation right? Nail in the tread, owner notices it, remove tire, take to shop, zero issue fixing that puncture. It's called discretion. Video designed to scare the uninformed into buying tires when they might not need to.