In case you're wondering which country will elect a Jewish head-of-government next, the most likely candidate seems to be Jamaica 🇯🇲. However, I doubt people will be as weird about that as they were about Mexico. I also don't expect it to be the next special as I've already made plans.
@@SamAronow The head tilt is part of it and they can’t teach that in an app. 😂 Sam, my brother, somos angelenos, somos hijos de la Reina de Los Angeles. ¡Te abrazo! When I was a toddler, I had a Mexican babysitter, an abuelita from down the block. So at the same time I was learning my native tongue English, Spanish was constantly filtering in. I don’t even remember her name or of which of the families she was the grandmother, but I remember a nice lady teaching me “manzana”, “naranja”, y “durazno”. I took Spanish as my elective throughout primary, secondary, and college. I still recall some of the lessons, but at the time, I can’t say they helped me learn to speak the language. No, the way I learned to speak Spanish initially was buying drugs around Pico & Hoover during the 80s, before crack took over. You could get better deals from the Guatemalan guys selling dime bags, 1/8ths, and 1/4s. Plus it was fun to nonchalantly hang out, exchanging pleasantries and shooting the breeze instead of being scared little yt boys eager to score and split. However, I did not really learn to speak Spanish (Mexican Spanish) until I moved to Mexico. I moved to a rancho in the rural space between Dolores Hidalgo and San Miguel de Allende. I learned how much I didn’t know when I plopped myself down in a village where almost nobody spoke English, and then I learned enough to survive, then to function, and then to where I am now, over a dozen years later, able to function and sometimes converse. I lived in this rancho for a year, until I met a gal in town and we decided to shack up. Then we decided to unshack after a few months and I found my current apartment in a working class neighborhood. That unfortunately has been gentrifying and gringo-fying lately. Ni modo. I guess I was in L.A. for a funeral and visiting while you were in CDMX. I hope that someday our paths cross. Hit me up if you ever visit the state of Guanajuato. I’m in SMA, and it would be an honor to offer you hospitality, my brother Angeleno.
I wasn't surprised to hear you speak Spanish since you are from California. It really is interesting to find what people in MC thought you sounded like. I am curious what you sound like when you converse in Hebrew. When you say single words and names, your accent is perfect in modern Israeli Hebrew standarts, but carrying a conversation is a whole other thing.
I assume most people who are surprised to learn you speak Spanish would be Israelis. Most Israelis don't have a good understanding of the US, so they have no reason to think a Jewish person from California would speak Spanish, and speaking 3 languages is just generally impressive
Exactly, when I went to Israel and told Israelis I'm from the US but I speak Spanish (and no Hebrew), everyone was shocked, like they don't know Latinos are 20% of the US. Well, except for the few Argentines I ran into, they expected it
I knew an Israeli immigrant to L.A. who owned a sweat shop next to the place I worked. Good God, he was a prime A-hole. Brooklyn Jews are all amateurs in comparison. Anyway, he spoke excellent Spanish. And despite him being such a schmuck, a real putz, his workers apparently loved him. I never heard them grumble or complain.
Your comment about the varieties of Spanish is quite intriguing to me because it reminds me of the situatuon of Afrikaans in South Africa, which likewise consists of numerous varieties distinguished by geography and ethnicity. For example, even though I grew up Cape Town in the 2000s, I've heard people say that I speak Afrikaans with a Dutch or German accent despite English being my first language. Then again, my grandmother's mother and grandmother spoke to each other in Standard Dutch.
Spanish from México is normally easier to understand based on how beautifully they pronounce it, and how it's normally a bit slower than plenty of other dialects out there. I say this as an argentinian, not trying to be weird about it lol, but I have colleagues from México and I adore their accents. My spouse also understands them perfectly as an immigrant, even though Spanish is their fourth language, and they understand them better than they do local variants of Spanish. Not even because of media exposure, so it really does feel like it must be about the clarity, intonation and speed of my colleagues speaking Spanish rather than anything else. I also have a friend from the US who struggled both in Argentina and Chile but did just fine in Mexico as a second language speaker. I'm unaware of how much access to media they had but they grew up next to Mexican immigrants so they did have a lot of exposure to their Spanish.
the accent varies a lot throughout the country ( maybe less so today than in the past) in general we have an easy to understand accent but i have friends from northern mexico who grew up mostly in rural communities and I honestly have an easier time with a chilean than with them
Next episode being “In the Jewish diaspora” gives me hope that we’ll talk about the people who we now know as Mizrahim. I hope the Jews of MENA are given their own prominence, beyond their existence in the context of the State of Israel, as is so often the case.
@SamAronow you have to make a video on Judaism in Argentina! It has the highest Jewish population of Latin America and any Spanish-speaking country since the late 1800s, there's a long history of Jewish communities migrating to different rural areas and coalescing in Buenos Aires, tensions between the larger Ashkenazi and smaller Sepharadi communities, and our frankly weird non-Jewish President keeps tweeting Torah verses in Hebrew and is likely to convert after leaving office. There were two large waves of aliyah in the 1960s and 2000s, so you'll likely find Argentine-Jewish friends in Israel.
@SamAronow have you ever thought of making new channels where you would post your old videos translated to Spanish and Hebrew? I’m pretty sure if you contact someone in Netanya then you could also have them do voice overs for a Russian channel.
actually, I believe RUclips now has a feature where you can make video dubs on the same upload and access them through a dropdown menu, kinda like closed captions
Again my beloved “Shul de Justo Sierra”… How sad that you could not film there, it is such a nice building. I love that synagogue, wakes up so many sweet memories. I remember running up and down the stairs while playing with my cousin, we were about 10 years old. Our grandmother tended Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur services there and it was so hard to keep us quiet. In another matter, in contrast with USA and Argentina, a big percentage of the Jewish community in Mexico is Sephardic and/or Misrahi. Much of the XX century Ashkenazi immigration was possible because of the regulations softening during Lázaro Cárdenas administration, in order to accept Spanish republican refugees. Friendship between Jews and Republicans was not uncommon. By now, Mexican Jewish community has flourished, their members are generally wealthy (for Mexican standards), unlike when they where just arriving as immigrants/refugees. People in general tend to change their political views as they improve their status, often leaning to the right. Yet, Claudia has not. Claudia is a physicist (studied in Facultad de Ciencias UNAM), so she is Mexico’s first woman president, with a Jewish origin and a scientist too.
Most of my Jewish friends from California are at least conversational in Spanish, even without having family from Latin American countries. Like Sam describes in his Pasadena video Jews in CA have always lived around Spanish speakers
They are not dialects. Spanish doesn't have dialects like Italian. We have different accents, slang, and for things that have different ways to same the same, in different places is more common to use one word or another, all being part of the same Spanish
Spanish has dialects, a dialect is just a variation of a language, those Italian "dialects" are actually languages, Fascist Italy started calling them dialects to downplay their status so that the Italian language which is a constructed language from Tuscan could be pushed as the proper language of the Italian peninsular.
@@Mrdachi87 I'd say that the varieties of Tuscany, Latium, Marche, and Umbria are dialects of Italian, whereas Neapolitan, Sardinian, Sicilian, and Gallo-Italian are separate languages.
@@SamAronow I'd add Romanesco to the dialects of Italian too from what I've studied but I don't speak Italian so I wouldn't know. I agree about all the other languages, when I tell people that Italy is multilingual and multicultural, they find it hard to believe in fact that's one of the main reasons why Fascism failed in Italy.
Italian doesn't have dialects, it has languages it calls dialects lol Spanish does have at least two dialects, European and American, but realistically dozens for each country and more realistically even more than that.
In case you're wondering which country will elect a Jewish head-of-government next, the most likely candidate seems to be Jamaica 🇯🇲. However, I doubt people will be as weird about that as they were about Mexico. I also don't expect it to be the next special as I've already made plans.
Maybe it'll be Israel, who knows
"50% loan words from English and 50% curse words" Ah, sounds like how I learned Irish lol
I decided cut out the part where I explain that, in Caló, the proper greeting isn't "hola" but "[tilts head] wassup foo?"
@@SamAronow I LOVE IT
A non-acquaintance might think it was an offensive stereotype rather than how I learned to converse in high school.
@@SamAronow The head tilt is part of it and they can’t teach that in an app. 😂
Sam, my brother, somos angelenos, somos hijos de la Reina de Los Angeles. ¡Te abrazo!
When I was a toddler, I had a Mexican babysitter, an abuelita from down the block. So at the same time I was learning my native tongue English, Spanish was constantly filtering in. I don’t even remember her name or of which of the families she was the grandmother, but I remember a nice lady teaching me “manzana”, “naranja”, y “durazno”.
I took Spanish as my elective throughout primary, secondary, and college. I still recall some of the lessons, but at the time, I can’t say they helped me learn to speak the language.
No, the way I learned to speak Spanish initially was buying drugs around Pico & Hoover during the 80s, before crack took over. You could get better deals from the Guatemalan guys selling dime bags, 1/8ths, and 1/4s. Plus it was fun to nonchalantly hang out, exchanging pleasantries and shooting the breeze instead of being scared little yt boys eager to score and split.
However, I did not really learn to speak Spanish (Mexican Spanish) until I moved to Mexico. I moved to a rancho in the rural space between Dolores Hidalgo and San Miguel de Allende. I learned how much I didn’t know when I plopped myself down in a village where almost nobody spoke English, and then I learned enough to survive, then to function, and then to where I am now, over a dozen years later, able to function and sometimes converse.
I lived in this rancho for a year, until I met a gal in town and we decided to shack up. Then we decided to unshack after a few months and I found my current apartment in a working class neighborhood. That unfortunately has been gentrifying and gringo-fying lately. Ni modo.
I guess I was in L.A. for a funeral and visiting while you were in CDMX. I hope that someday our paths cross. Hit me up if you ever visit the state of Guanajuato. I’m in SMA, and it would be an honor to offer you hospitality, my brother Angeleno.
@@MarcosElMalo2 Of course. It had to be either Guanajuato, Jalisco, Michoacan, or Oaxaca.
I wasn't surprised to hear you speak Spanish since you are from California. It really is interesting to find what people in MC thought you sounded like.
I am curious what you sound like when you converse in Hebrew. When you say single words and names, your accent is perfect in modern Israeli Hebrew standarts, but carrying a conversation is a whole other thing.
I assume most people who are surprised to learn you speak Spanish would be Israelis. Most Israelis don't have a good understanding of the US, so they have no reason to think a Jewish person from California would speak Spanish, and speaking 3 languages is just generally impressive
Exactly, when I went to Israel and told Israelis I'm from the US but I speak Spanish (and no Hebrew), everyone was shocked, like they don't know Latinos are 20% of the US. Well, except for the few Argentines I ran into, they expected it
I knew an Israeli immigrant to L.A. who owned a sweat shop next to the place I worked. Good God, he was a prime A-hole. Brooklyn Jews are all amateurs in comparison. Anyway, he spoke excellent Spanish. And despite him being such a schmuck, a real putz, his workers apparently loved him. I never heard them grumble or complain.
Your comment about the varieties of Spanish is quite intriguing to me because it reminds me of the situatuon of Afrikaans in South Africa, which likewise consists of numerous varieties distinguished by geography and ethnicity.
For example, even though I grew up Cape Town in the 2000s, I've heard people say that I speak Afrikaans with a Dutch or German accent despite English being my first language.
Then again, my grandmother's mother and grandmother spoke to each other in Standard Dutch.
OMG SAM IS A CONFIRMED DROPOUT FAN!!! Why does this channel just keep getting better
Spanish from México is normally easier to understand based on how beautifully they pronounce it, and how it's normally a bit slower than plenty of other dialects out there. I say this as an argentinian, not trying to be weird about it lol, but I have colleagues from México and I adore their accents.
My spouse also understands them perfectly as an immigrant, even though Spanish is their fourth language, and they understand them better than they do local variants of Spanish. Not even because of media exposure, so it really does feel like it must be about the clarity, intonation and speed of my colleagues speaking Spanish rather than anything else.
I also have a friend from the US who struggled both in Argentina and Chile but did just fine in Mexico as a second language speaker. I'm unaware of how much access to media they had but they grew up next to Mexican immigrants so they did have a lot of exposure to their Spanish.
Mexican spanish is always beautiful, on any basis and regardless of pronounciation :P
the accent varies a lot throughout the country ( maybe less so today than in the past) in general we have an easy to understand accent but i have friends from northern mexico who grew up mostly in rural communities and I honestly have an easier time with a chilean than with them
"it's normally a bit slower..."
"How beautifully they pronounce it...."
Let me guess, you only live in shitlangolandia.
Next episode being “In the Jewish diaspora” gives me hope that we’ll talk about the people who we now know as Mizrahim. I hope the Jews of MENA are given their own prominence, beyond their existence in the context of the State of Israel, as is so often the case.
Not in the _next_ episode, but definitely very soon after!
That סוד place sounds awesome!!
@SamAronow you have to make a video on Judaism in Argentina!
It has the highest Jewish population of Latin America and any Spanish-speaking country since the late 1800s, there's a long history of Jewish communities migrating to different rural areas and coalescing in Buenos Aires, tensions between the larger Ashkenazi and smaller Sepharadi communities, and our frankly weird non-Jewish President keeps tweeting Torah verses in Hebrew and is likely to convert after leaving office.
There were two large waves of aliyah in the 1960s and 2000s, so you'll likely find Argentine-Jewish friends in Israel.
Your Spanish was great. You didn’t sound aristocratic or weird at all. You simply sounded like an American with a great proficiency in Spanish.
@SamAronow have you ever thought of making new channels where you would post your old videos translated to Spanish and Hebrew? I’m pretty sure if you contact someone in Netanya then you could also have them do voice overs for a Russian channel.
actually, I believe RUclips now has a feature where you can make video dubs on the same upload and access them through a dropdown menu, kinda like closed captions
Also BASEBALL LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
If we're talking about Mexico, Jews, and baseball players...may as well mention 1st baseman Rowdy Tellez, he is all 3 of those things
Great video.
Again my beloved “Shul de Justo Sierra”…
How sad that you could not film there, it is such a nice building. I love that synagogue, wakes up so many sweet memories. I remember running up and down the stairs while playing with my cousin, we were about 10 years old. Our grandmother tended Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur services there and it was so hard to keep us quiet.
In another matter, in contrast with USA and Argentina, a big percentage of the Jewish community in Mexico is Sephardic and/or Misrahi. Much of the XX century Ashkenazi immigration was possible because of the regulations softening during Lázaro Cárdenas administration, in order to accept Spanish republican refugees. Friendship between Jews and Republicans was not uncommon.
By now, Mexican Jewish community has flourished, their members are generally wealthy (for Mexican standards), unlike when they where just arriving as immigrants/refugees. People in general tend to change their political views as they improve their status, often leaning to the right. Yet, Claudia has not.
Claudia is a physicist (studied in Facultad de Ciencias UNAM), so she is Mexico’s first woman president, with a Jewish origin and a scientist too.
Sam Aronow Dropout reference? Was not expecting that…
my exact thought
Weird that people were surprised you speak Spanish. I would think you're a polyglot.
Most of my Jewish friends from California are at least conversational in Spanish, even without having family from Latin American countries. Like Sam describes in his Pasadena video Jews in CA have always lived around Spanish speakers
I am sorry you think you sound like an aristocrat :(, to me it sounded just like anyone from El Pueblo. Don't worry.
If you ever catch up to the modern day will you go back to ancient Jewish history and make more detailed vids?
Ngl ever since sheinbaum was elected I tought well I guess is gping to make the Mexico video I suggested in the first survey
They are not dialects. Spanish doesn't have dialects like Italian. We have different accents, slang, and for things that have different ways to same the same, in different places is more common to use one word or another, all being part of the same Spanish
Spanish has dialects, a dialect is just a variation of a language, those Italian "dialects" are actually languages, Fascist Italy started calling them dialects to downplay their status so that the Italian language which is a constructed language from Tuscan could be pushed as the proper language of the Italian peninsular.
@@Mrdachi87 I'd say that the varieties of Tuscany, Latium, Marche, and Umbria are dialects of Italian, whereas Neapolitan, Sardinian, Sicilian, and Gallo-Italian are separate languages.
@@SamAronow something something an army and a navy
@@SamAronow I'd add Romanesco to the dialects of Italian too from what I've studied but I don't speak Italian so I wouldn't know. I agree about all the other languages, when I tell people that Italy is multilingual and multicultural, they find it hard to believe in fact that's one of the main reasons why Fascism failed in Italy.
Italian doesn't have dialects, it has languages it calls dialects lol
Spanish does have at least two dialects, European and American, but realistically dozens for each country and more realistically even more than that.
Speaking of Game Changer, did you see the utterly moronic statement Dropout put out about Zionism? So insanely ignorant, and very disappointing.
What statement?
Where did they make this statement?
@@beardeodorant7682 RUclips, Twitter, etc
@@beardeodorant7682 here, Twitter, etc.
@@beardeodorant7682 various platforms. It keeps deleting my reply for some strange reason.