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@@Technowizard811 that doesn't work becuase there is no way we will have 3 spiderman movies in phase 6 and the mcu might reboot after secret wars so it has to be Spiderman 4 and 5
@@gb9830 Bruh Ned can't be Hobgoblin without introducing Roderick Kingsley, they could make them cousins and later in the moving Rod frames & brainwsshes Ned making Peter baffled and forced to fight his friend.
Spiderman have scorpion, prowler and tinkier from homwcomming, chamelown the bus driver inn far from home and Hydro man mention. No way home venom,mister negative hinted. Rhino mention and hob goblin hinted. So he have many past villian that havent become villian yet also vutlure will prop bw back but not yet
i was hoping we could get movie version of maximum carnage where venom, spiderman, cloak n dagger, and few other marvel characters team up to fight the symbiotes
I think elements from the cartoon series are going to be used , With Osborn and Kingpin working together. Osborn works for Fisk and leads to his unraveling
I think introducing the MCU variants of Norman Osborn and Dr. Otto Octavius is a good idea. I don’t think this means they’ll be the main villains, but I believe the events of No Way Home should have an impact on the MCU variants embracing their destinies. Maybe it’s what inspires Norman Osborne to become Iron Patriot, because maybe he saw what he has the potential to become and tries to choose a different path. They could have Norman Osborn being put in charge of Stark industries and renaming it. Then maybe the MCU variant of Doc Ock could be a little more arrogant and not as redeemable as Alfred Molina was. There are many solid and grounded possibilities they could go with for this film.
1:53 basically yes it’s cool seeing Tobey and Andrew but Tom Holland IS the Current Spider-Man/Peter Parker and he’s been Great….don’t diminish his talents for older nostalgia
No kingpin that's unfortunate, the concept of by standers watching the battle of no way home and becoming inspired is actually a great move MCU green goblin and doc Ock I'm liking it
I would love to see Scorpion as the main antagonist. Also have Kingpin, Chameleon, & maybe some other Spidey villains return as side villains in the story.
That Alex guy answered for Peter's next challenge to be his past, not someone from his past. He answered "his past. but villain-wise..." And then said goblin and doc ock
Having an MCU Norman that never becomes Goblin but it continuously stalked and harassed by Spiderman could kickstart a violent streak to set up Venom later? Maybe.
That's interesting... Tom originally said something along the lines of "If I'm still playing Spider-Man when I'm 30, something's wrong" but now he's saying "I'll always want to play Spider-Man, as I owe my career to the role"
He clarified that statement in another interview, he meant that he shouldn't be the only live action Spider-Man within the MCU and that he should pass on the mantle to whoever plays Miles Morales
@@williamparker6038 i think its gonna be cut from the movie like Sony did a LOT of Morbius, or that scene will be explained as a variant AFTER Tom Hardy went back to his universe. Keep in mind that Bartender looked VERY different (even if the same actor)
i think we’re supposed to forget about venom until we’re closer to Secret Wars and we see peter wear the symbiote suit for the first time for comic accuracy
I think in this spider-man trilogy, they should build towards a spider-man vs and sinister six in the 6th movie. I think you have Kingpin as the big bad but not the main villain of the movie. The main villain is the green goblin and doctor octopus, who was recruited by kingpin. In spider-man 5, it's doctor octopus, green goblin, vulture, and scorpion. And then in spider-man 6, it's spider-man, Black Cat, Miles morales & Daredevil vs. Green Goblin, Doc ock, Scorpion, Vulture, venom and shocker. Favorite Hero: Batman
I agree that if we do bring back the previous Spider-Man. I don’t want them to be part of the main plot. What was done with NWH was amazing and we should leave it alone. I’m excited though to see what comes.
This is the biggest villain twist I ever heard, we’re getting our MCU Green Goblin and Doc Ock played by new actors. It also means that we could get Harry Osborn!
This isn’t happening. If you have any common sense you know this. First off… no way home confirmed the Osbornes don’t exist in the mcu. 2nd, you really think they are gonna have goblin and doc ock as villains when we literally just had them in the last film? Come on… this is goofy online rumor/nonsense
I hope the main villain is Scorpion because he’s technically a villain from peters past and scorpion hasn’t been in a movie yet besides homecoming but he wasn’t scorpion yet
I love Tom Holland and his version of Spider-man. I am glad that they are not going to be a big part of this movie. It is awesome that Tom has apart of the creative process of the next movie.
This is certainly not my favorite news. Willam Defoe is a really talented and definitive actor and he will be very hard to recast. There’s also so many other Spider-man villains that haven’t been used yet and they deserve a chance to be in the MCU! However I still support Tom and just the fact that he’s feeling enthusiastic about the movie makes me feel good. However it also sounds like a messy setup in some ways. I think a lot of people would agree that Scorpion should be part of the story and hopefully he will be involved somehow. I truly hope that we get a good story above all else but right now this film has me feeling slightly nervous about its’ quality.
I like the fact that they involving tom Holland in the creative process and I love the idea of Andrew and Tobey's Peter Parker are not known in their universe anymore
I'm kind of worried of there being so many villains, as thats what some people didn't like about The amazing spiderman 2. I personaly loved amazing spiderman 2, but those who didn't may not enjoy there being so many villanins in spiderman 4. Lets all hope it all works out alright.
this would be perfect take on the green say it was someone who’s seen green goblin in mcu universe and this persons becomes or named hobgoblin this is insane
I think The real Hobgoblin aka Roderick Kingsley will brainwash Ned into framing him for his crimes and blames Peter Parker for not being a friend with him
Call me crazy but the jackal a villain that utilizes cloning tech. He could be Pete's biology teacher in HS and could have some kinda relationship weather positive or negative
at the end of the second? movie they teased the FF, did they buy the stark tower, did it used to be the Baxter Building in the 60s and then they disappeared
The only '' Goblin '' I would love to see from SP NWH is Ned ! Osborn will come slowly like KingPin. I think Tom Holland is becoming a Producer ! If Doctor Strange spell is reversed, we should see Tobey SP4 and Andew's ASM3 seeing light because it will be a long and important story to tell before Secret Wars.
It hasn’t been a long time since Tobey and Andrews Last Movies cause Doctor Octopus said “I had him by the THROAT! Then… I was here.” And that was before like all of them got defeted or died. Like as soon as they were about to die or be defeated by spidey, they were there, In the 616 Universe.
I hope they add Beetle as a MCU Spider-Man villain. In the games the DLC villain was leaked to be Beetle, so I hope they put him in the MCU, even as an intro villain to show us how Peter is doing as Spider-Man
I think that Kingpin could recruit villains like Shocker,who was in the first Tom Holland spider-man film, only this time he is fully fleshed out, or Prowler, Trapster, maybe even The Jackal, he has a a major part on the cloning of various Peter/ Spidey in the comics. Which could open up a whole new range of spidey spin offs.
There could be a few options for the villain. Vulture: yes the Morbius post-credit is still confusing, but if Sony ends up retconning Vulture back in the MCU then he could probably go after Spider-Man again. Scorpion: as of Homecoming, we should assume that he's still in jail. Unless the Blip allowed him to escape or he was let free but we know he's still out there in the MCU somewhere. Mysterio: Far From Home left "Quintin Beck's" death ambiguous cause it still could be an illusion. But his team is still out there and still have a grudge against Spider-Man so any one of them could return. Honestly from those choices, the possibilities are endless.
@@davidchittick6783 Scorpion, Kraven The Hunter, Shocker, Kingpin, Mr. Negative, etc. We can definitely get a sinister six for Spider-Man part 6. Tom Holland can get a venom symbiote in the part 6 Spiderman movie before or after spiderman gets beat up by the sinister six
@@MoisesSambrano3000 I would like to see some villains return. These are the villains that I would love to see in the 2nd trilogy. Venom, Tombstone, The Sinister Six (Lady Octopus, Rhino, Chameleon, Shocker, Mister Negative, & Kraven The Hunter), Hammerhead, & maybe some other symbiote villains that they could put into the symbiote story. Like Carnage, Scream, & Phage. But make sure their appearences & story works well of course.
With the next Spiderman, I feel like it needs to focus heavily on Peter's isolation. He no longer has anyone, where he's completely alone to the point that it could break anyone. So I feel like this could lead into a great story arc focusing on the symbiote, where this film ends with Peter obtaining it. The next film could then be showing Peter embracing the Symbiote only to have it nearly consume him and end with him finally throwing it away. This could then lead into the 6th film focusing on Peter having to face his own demons as the Symbiote returns in the means of Venom (and perhaps also taking over MJ and forcing peter to have to fight her as well).
That seem awesome there so many villains to choose from especially from Spiderman rogue street level villain like Hammerhead, Tombstone, the enforcers, Hobgoblin, and so on.
Mr Negative could be a good fit to this. Could be as simple as having him be a family friend who Pete knew as a kid through May and is locked in a war with Kingpin with maybe each of them having their own agents / villains?
Spiderman francise is a only thing, which I watched after Deadpool & Wolverine. I'm done with MCU after read, that Marvel kill off another male charcter to replace with woman (Loki)
I mean I think Kraven fits a lot of these guidelines as you spoke of in this movie. Especially with a new movie with Kraven coming out.. that’s possibly not far off
The problem with that theory that "people saw what happened" is, as I understood it, the entire world was made to forget about Spiderman, (who he was and, I thought, everything about him.) His friends didn't even remember ever having met Peter Parker. So, does that world at that point even know Spiderman exists? And, will they remember anything about the characters that crossed over into their universe or anything they did while there? Since it was all tied to Spiderman? It would be strange if they forgot about Spiderman's involvement in the fights, and just remembered those other characters being there. It seems like there would be some gaps in their memories that way. That being said, May was still dead, and MJ had a bandaid on her forehead. But if they remembered anything from those events, it seems as though they would have been talking about it. And nothing, that I recall, was mentioned about how May died at the graveyard when Parker met a Happy who didn't recognize him, so I guess it's hard to know how much the world remembers about those events. I'm not sure if undoing the spell would be a good idea, though. Doesn't that mean people would again know about Peter Parker being Spiderman? I mean, if it were straight-up undone? Maybe if they could do an alternate version of the spell, where everything was remembered except for his true identity. That could work, I guess. Or they could do something with changing of timelines as the Deadpool and Wolverine events happen, and rewrite a bunch of things. Parts of the idea that all Peter Parkers were affected by the spell appeals to me, and I feel like that could maybe work in some way. I'm just not sure the world is ready yet for another big multiverse-spanning story with Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield, and Tom Holland. Though, I guess it could be interesting if they made a trilogy out of it and included other iterations of Spiderman, like 2099, Mile Morales, etc. And threw in some characters like Spider-Gwen, Spiderwoman, and others. Undoing the spell, though, zeros out the importance, and gravity of the sacrifice Parker made in having Strange do the spell at the end at all. It seems to me that by the end of whatever adventure lead to it all being put back to normal, any moral story about consequences would be squashed. Mess with the universe, end up an exile in your own world. Mess with it enough times, everything goes back to normal. That lesson doesn't quite have the gravity of "With great power comes great responsibility." Then again, who knows? It seems most time travel movies end up with a fixed ending in which everything gets put back to normal or better, so maybe they will try to go that way. Those always seemed like cop-out endings to me, but I still liked them.
Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man so far Toby McGuire was a good Peter parker but didn't quite pull off Spidey Andrew Garfield was a good Spidey but was to cool for Peter parker but tom Holland has pulled both of. Would like to see a MCU green goblin but really would like to see scorpion or hob goblin or jackle
I was just rewatching the Spider-Man animated series. Smythe’s voice actor sounds just like Theo James. That would be a good villian leading to Kingpin.
I think this is a good move since we don't know how long Tom would want to continue being Spider-Man past this trilogy. I'd like to imagine a big part of why they're doing the inspiration route for Green Goblin (should this be real) is to finally set up the MCU Oscorp or Dark Avengers
Kinda still hoping for Daredevil and Kingpin to be in Spiderman 4. However with so many villains in Spidey’s rouge gallery we still need to draw upon the well. Dmitry (Chameleon) was working for sheild when his boy Mysterio was there in Far from Home. Yeah they were buds in the comics. And I still think Mysterio will show up again. Also the Scorpion was in Homecoming talking to the Vulture at the end in prison. four guys who could be Sinister Six already appeared in Marvel’s Spider-Man movies.
My ideal new MCU trilogy for villains roughly is, Spider Man 4: Kingpin is mayor outlaws vigilantes, villains like scorpion , shocker and maybe even prowler (as a cameo from Spiderverse) (we can even seen Norman and Otto as cameos) are all after Peter. Peter makes somewhat easy work of them instigating Kingpin to hire renowned hunter, Kraven, who is craving a worthy opponent. This all happens and then Kraven kills Peter and Kraven buries him like in the comics. The misplaced symbiote then finds Peter's grave and boom Bully Holland is here and the film can either end here or he can nearly kill Kraven. Credit scene could then be Andrew and Tobey entering the MCU again with Doctor Strange setting up Secret Wars and the spell being slightly undone. Secret Wars: Peter has the black suit and Tobey is telling him its bad news, Tom doesn't listen and believes it makes him better at being Spiderman, feeding and preying on his pain from No Way Home. Spiderman 5: Tom realises "yeah maybe this black suit is bad news" after going berserk on low level criminals or scorpion or whoever. He then attempts to remove the black suit. He is successful in this and the symbiote flees to find a new host. It finds the MCU Eddie Brock who kinda hates Peter already (Bugle drama) and Venom declares him worthy. This means we can get the Peter vs Venom moment we have all wanted. Spiderman 6: Kingpin who is still the overarching villain hires a team of villains to take down Peter. Here we can see green goblin and doc ock as well as other villains that we may have already seen to form a sinister six. Peter manages to defeat them and decides to go after Kingpin. This is all very rough but I would love to see Kraven and Venom as their own villains in movies and I would love an actual sinister six comprised of all Tom Holland MCU villains. I would also love to see daredevil help Peter fight Kingpin and I would want to see Miles Morales show up somehow.
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Hopefully The Green Goblin in the MCU looks like his variant from Ultimate Spider-Man tv show
Watch it's madame webs villian arc lol
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I think it's scorpion actually. It'd just make sense. They showed him in homecoming and we forgot about him
Peter Parker became doctor doom
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It should be a team up with Daredevil against Kingpin. That would be a billion dollar film. It's a no-brainer.
To be honest i would've had Kingpin be the main villain and assemble the Sinister six to lead the anti vigilante task force
Spider man 6 with the sinister 6
@@Technowizard811 that doesn't work becuase there is no way we will have 3 spiderman movies in phase 6 and the mcu might reboot after secret wars so it has to be Spiderman 4 and 5
@@youssefmesrati340 let a man dream
I would like to see that you could build them up for the 6th movie.
Then u have no villains to fight left after that
Scorpion...
Please!
It has to be. He’s the thread from this Peter’s past that hasn’t come back to him yet. Peter put him out away in Homecoming.
Please god yes
I want scorpion as the main villain in spider man 4
Maybe it's a version of the Lizard from the animated movies that enters the real world.
It should be Hobgoblin or Scorpion.
Yesss Ned as the hobgoblin who gets some of his memories bsck and hates Peter for ruining their original lives
@@gb9830 Bruh Ned can't be Hobgoblin without introducing Roderick Kingsley, they could make them cousins and later in the moving Rod frames & brainwsshes Ned making Peter baffled and forced to fight his friend.
@@todaychange5-7783yeah because he was real Hobgoblin as Ned was just brainwashed into thinking he was and take all the credit for his crimes
we seen enough off of hobgablin and green goblin i rather see king pin who has multiple villains working for him including scorpion
I think Ned will be brainwashed by the real Hobgoblin aka Roderick Kingsley who will frame Ned for his actions and crimes
4:50 when Warren said a villain from Peter’s past I was thinking the vulture could return but he was in homecoming
Spiderman have scorpion, prowler and tinkier from homwcomming, chamelown the bus driver inn far from home and Hydro man mention. No way home venom,mister negative hinted. Rhino mention and hob goblin hinted. So he have many past villian that havent become villian yet also vutlure will prop bw back but not yet
@@carinahatlevoll153shocker was in homecoming as well.
@@batmanwins5701 i now but they said someone who havent been a villian yet so thats why i dident put him inn the list. And villian there alter ago.
Scorpion 🦂
@@carinahatlevoll153 thinking about it, prowler could've been good
Maybe the main villain is gonna be a version of Venom, because there was a piece of the symbiote left behind in a post credit scene
in let there be carnge is a symbiote too
Yesssss venom, we need symbiote spider man
i was hoping we could get movie version of maximum carnage where venom, spiderman, cloak n dagger, and few other marvel characters team up to fight the symbiotes
@@fresnoniiji that wouldn’t make since for a spider man movie
I think elements from the cartoon series are going to be used , With Osborn and Kingpin working together. Osborn works for Fisk and leads to his unraveling
I like that idea and Norman being the main villain as the goblin in Spider-Man 6
Your on to something here bud
I think introducing the MCU variants of Norman Osborn and Dr. Otto Octavius is a good idea. I don’t think this means they’ll be the main villains, but I believe the events of No Way Home should have an impact on the MCU variants embracing their destinies. Maybe it’s what inspires Norman Osborne to become Iron Patriot, because maybe he saw what he has the potential to become and tries to choose a different path. They could have Norman Osborn being put in charge of Stark industries and renaming it. Then maybe the MCU variant of Doc Ock could be a little more arrogant and not as redeemable as Alfred Molina was. There are many solid and grounded possibilities they could go with for this film.
They are not using goblin and ock lol we literally just had them. That would be so dumb. They are gonna use a new villain/villains.
1:53 basically yes it’s cool seeing Tobey and Andrew but Tom Holland IS the Current Spider-Man/Peter Parker and he’s been Great….don’t diminish his talents for older nostalgia
No kingpin that's unfortunate, the concept of by standers watching the battle of no way home and becoming inspired is actually a great move MCU green goblin and doc Ock I'm liking it
It is not a great move. It's just wasting the characters and is just lazy writing
I would love to see Scorpion as the main antagonist. Also have Kingpin, Chameleon, & maybe some other Spidey villains return as side villains in the story.
Need to see Mister Negative and Black Cat in the MCU
I would honestly love to see Spider-Man as the villain he has every right to be and he would probably be on of the most powerful villain ever
That Alex guy answered for Peter's next challenge to be his past, not someone from his past. He answered "his past. but villain-wise..." And then said goblin and doc ock
While another scooper said that the locked/confirmed villains for the 4th are tombstone, prowler and shocker
This would be way better imo
Having an MCU Norman that never becomes Goblin but it continuously stalked and harassed by Spiderman could kickstart a violent streak to set up Venom later? Maybe.
I can’t wait for Spider-Man can’t find a home.
That's interesting... Tom originally said something along the lines of "If I'm still playing Spider-Man when I'm 30, something's wrong" but now he's saying "I'll always want to play Spider-Man, as I owe my career to the role"
he got offered more after the interview 😂
He clarified that statement in another interview, he meant that he shouldn't be the only live action Spider-Man within the MCU and that he should pass on the mantle to whoever plays Miles Morales
Money talks lol these dudes are just actors and actresses and they're going to take the biggest pay no matter what act is.
I can see scorpion being if not THE villain but a villain since he’s never been in a movie yet
So is it gonna be Venom? He was set up for the MCU in Venom 2 but the last dance seems to be undoing that
The venom 3 trailer kind of ruined the post credit scene of nwh and let there be carnage
@@williamparker6038sony trailers are mislead
@@williamparker6038 i think its gonna be cut from the movie like Sony did a LOT of Morbius, or that scene will be explained as a variant AFTER Tom Hardy went back to his universe. Keep in mind that Bartender looked VERY different (even if the same actor)
i think we’re supposed to forget about venom until we’re closer to Secret Wars and we see peter wear the symbiote suit for the first time for comic accuracy
Ned as hob goblin
That’s actually really good idea since Ned is from Peter’s past and hobgoblin is a new villain in the MCU
Now imagine he gets the symbiote from VENOM & loses it to a Scorpion that he's thrashed in a prior appearance 🤔
@@williamparker6038No
Perfect
It sounds good in theory but I feel like he would look so goofy as hobgoblin lol.
Hopefully we will see Kingpin and Spidey battle each other one day in the mcu.
Ned as Hobglin. 1- someone from Peter’s past. 2- a new villain. 3- an old villain (cause he’s pretty much a copy of green goblin)
I guess it's kraven after his solo movie
kigpin the mayor will hire a hunter for the job of killing Spidey
I think in this spider-man trilogy, they should build towards a spider-man vs and sinister six in the 6th movie.
I think you have Kingpin as the big bad but not the main villain of the movie. The main villain is the green goblin and doctor octopus, who was recruited by kingpin. In spider-man 5, it's doctor octopus, green goblin, vulture, and scorpion.
And then in spider-man 6, it's spider-man, Black Cat, Miles morales & Daredevil vs. Green Goblin, Doc ock, Scorpion, Vulture, venom and shocker.
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I agree that if we do bring back the previous Spider-Man. I don’t want them to be part of the main plot. What was done with NWH was amazing and we should leave it alone. I’m excited though to see what comes.
I was getting psyched for street-level, hoping to see Punisher get involved, but we’ll have to wait and see how it plays out.
This is the biggest villain twist I ever heard, we’re getting our MCU Green Goblin and Doc Ock played by new actors. It also means that we could get Harry Osborn!
And I’m down to see the MCU get their own Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, and Harry Osborn .
This isn’t happening. If you have any common sense you know this. First off… no way home confirmed the Osbornes don’t exist in the mcu. 2nd, you really think they are gonna have goblin and doc ock as villains when we literally just had them in the last film? Come on… this is goofy online rumor/nonsense
Well some of the leaks is true
Are u not hearing what he even said ? There going to be wannabe copy cats
@@Edmond-w5hWannabe copy cats?
I hope the main villain is Scorpion because he’s technically a villain from peters past and scorpion hasn’t been in a movie yet besides homecoming but he wasn’t scorpion yet
I love Tom Holland and his version of Spider-man. I am glad that they are not going to be a big part of this movie. It is awesome that Tom has apart of the creative process of the next movie.
I really hope they are learning from their past mistakes. Sounds like Tom is maturing as well. Looking forward to the future projects.
2:07 gald they made that call
Its Silvermane with Tombstone as his "muscle"
Kingpin and Daredevil needed to be in SpiderMan 4
I respect Tom not wanting to rinse and repeat
This is great. Actually, it will be better for Tobey and Garfield not to appear in Spider-Man 4 until Secret Wars.
Or maybe only post credit scene of Spider-Man 4 and set up Secret Wars
@@JeremyCasas-o4s exactly
This is certainly not my favorite news. Willam Defoe is a really talented and definitive actor and he will be very hard to recast. There’s also so many other Spider-man villains that haven’t been used yet and they deserve a chance to be in the MCU! However I still support Tom and just the fact that he’s feeling enthusiastic about the movie makes me feel good. However it also sounds like a messy setup in some ways. I think a lot of people would agree that Scorpion should be part of the story and hopefully he will be involved somehow. I truly hope that we get a good story above all else but right now this film has me feeling slightly nervous about its’ quality.
Ned should become the hobgoblin like he does in thecomics. Going back on his villain promise in no way home
love the method of all Peter’s being affected by the spell and using that to involve them in secret wars
All we need is Kingpin. He gets elected mayor in Daredevil, then Spidey and Daredevil team up to expose him in part 4.
Yessss
tbh i like how they're building king pin's character
I like the fact that they involving tom Holland in the creative process and I love the idea of Andrew and Tobey's Peter Parker are not known in their universe anymore
Awesome video
Not sony drooling again for another No Way Home paycheck 💀
I'm kind of worried of there being so many villains, as thats what some people didn't like about The amazing spiderman 2. I personaly loved amazing spiderman 2, but those who didn't may not enjoy there being so many villanins in spiderman 4. Lets all hope it all works out alright.
The rise of hobgoblin
this would be perfect take on the green say it was someone who’s seen green goblin in mcu universe and this persons becomes or named hobgoblin this is insane
I think The real Hobgoblin aka Roderick Kingsley will brainwash Ned into framing him for his crimes and blames Peter Parker for not being a friend with him
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I hope it's Scorpion, it would be great if they finally pay off his appearance in Homecoming
Hopefully not
Kingpin would've been genius to recruit these variants. Sony doesn't like the meta of Kingpin going for the big guns instead of Prowler and Scorpion.
I think it should be kraven, scorpion, prowler, kingpin, or hob goblin in these movies
If venom is not in this movie im crying
Call me crazy but the jackal a villain that utilizes cloning tech. He could be Pete's biology teacher in HS and could have some kinda relationship weather positive or negative
at the end of the second? movie they teased the FF, did they buy the stark tower, did it used to be the Baxter Building in the 60s and then they disappeared
I just wanna a street level movie that I can watch over & over again
The only '' Goblin '' I would love to see from SP NWH is Ned ! Osborn will come slowly like KingPin.
I think Tom Holland is becoming a Producer !
If Doctor Strange spell is reversed, we should see Tobey SP4 and Andew's ASM3 seeing light because it will be a long and important story to tell before Secret Wars.
Let see the Scorpion, the Rhino and the Black Cat in the future Spider-man movie.
Tom's films have been so good, I'm in no matter what they do.
It hasn’t been a long time since Tobey and Andrews Last Movies cause Doctor Octopus said “I had him by the THROAT! Then… I was here.” And that was before like all of them got defeted or died. Like as soon as they were about to die or be defeated by spidey, they were there, In the 616 Universe.
I hope they add Beetle as a MCU Spider-Man villain. In the games the DLC villain was leaked to be Beetle, so I hope they put him in the MCU, even as an intro villain to show us how Peter is doing as Spider-Man
SINISTER SIX!!!
I hope that rumor about the spell doesn't affect andrew or Tobey, just tom.
I think it could be Scorpion from Homecoming or Chameleon from Far From Home the main villan in mcu Spider-Man 4
I think that Kingpin could recruit villains like Shocker,who was in the first Tom Holland spider-man film, only this time he is fully fleshed out, or Prowler, Trapster, maybe even The Jackal, he has a a major part on the cloning of various Peter/ Spidey in the comics. Which could open up a whole new range of spidey spin offs.
There could be a few options for the villain.
Vulture: yes the Morbius post-credit is still confusing, but if Sony ends up retconning Vulture back in the MCU then he could probably go after Spider-Man again.
Scorpion: as of Homecoming, we should assume that he's still in jail. Unless the Blip allowed him to escape or he was let free but we know he's still out there in the MCU somewhere.
Mysterio: Far From Home left "Quintin Beck's" death ambiguous cause it still could be an illusion. But his team is still out there and still have a grudge against Spider-Man so any one of them could return.
Honestly from those choices, the possibilities are endless.
Not having Kingpin as the villain is a missed opportunity
Nah the villain should be Kraven
Or scorpion
Maybe there gonna be 2 but Kingpin is for the long Run
@@albertoalfredo1564I’d like to see him and Scorpion fight Spider-Man in the MCU.
Kingpin is wack
We need a street level
Spider-Man: Homeless
I like the spin on the idea, makes for a different story!
Maybe we could even get some very different variants of Green Goblin and Dr. Octopus. With Wakanda tech and other technologies.
Bro Green Goblin in No Way Home the best performance of him since the 1st Spiderman film
I think it was toned down
Doesn't make sense for Norman to come into the mcu I mean, how is peter not gonna remember Norman killing his aunt??? I rather have kingpin tbh
Yesh, also we already gotten them in Spider-Man: No Way Home. I want to see villains that we haven't got yet in a Spider-Man movie.
@@davidchittick6783 Scorpion, Kraven The Hunter, Shocker, Kingpin, Mr. Negative, etc. We can definitely get a sinister six for Spider-Man part 6. Tom Holland can get a venom symbiote in the part 6 Spiderman movie before or after spiderman gets beat up by the sinister six
I'm certain they're saving the MCU versions of Doc Ock and Green Goblin for the third trilogy
@@Fanimei Yes
@@MoisesSambrano3000 I would like to see some villains return. These are the villains that I would love to see in the 2nd trilogy. Venom, Tombstone, The Sinister Six (Lady Octopus, Rhino, Chameleon, Shocker, Mister Negative, & Kraven The Hunter), Hammerhead, & maybe some other symbiote villains that they could put into the symbiote story. Like Carnage, Scream, & Phage. But make sure their appearences & story works well of course.
Hope this one is as good as the last one
Wow green goblin I love that villain
Marvel Mr. NEGATIVE should be in the movie he is a Spider-Man 🕸 based villain after all.
I feel like Jim Carrey would voice green goblin
With the next Spiderman, I feel like it needs to focus heavily on Peter's isolation. He no longer has anyone, where he's completely alone to the point that it could break anyone. So I feel like this could lead into a great story arc focusing on the symbiote, where this film ends with Peter obtaining it. The next film could then be showing Peter embracing the Symbiote only to have it nearly consume him and end with him finally throwing it away. This could then lead into the 6th film focusing on Peter having to face his own demons as the Symbiote returns in the means of Venom (and perhaps also taking over MJ and forcing peter to have to fight her as well).
I think the villains in the next Spider-Man movie should be Hobgoblin Scorpion Prowler and maybe Bullseye
I’m so bummed they aren’t goin to have villains who haven’t appeared on the big screen before.
That seem awesome there so many villains to choose from especially from Spiderman rogue street level villain like Hammerhead, Tombstone, the enforcers, Hobgoblin, and so on.
Mr Negative could be a good fit to this. Could be as simple as having him be a family friend who Pete knew as a kid through May and is locked in a war with Kingpin with maybe each of them having their own agents / villains?
"We don't want to do the same things from previous spidey films"
Next breath "Doc Oc and green goblin"
SCORPION IS GETTING A LIFE ACTION MOVIE NOW?!!
I think that marvel saw my tweet, because i tweeted about a Scorpion in a live action movie
Spider Man 4 should have a ground level villain
Spiderman francise is a only thing, which I watched after Deadpool & Wolverine. I'm done with MCU after read, that Marvel kill off another male charcter to replace with woman (Loki)
Bruh the plot feels like undoing everything that happened in SPMN 3
I mean I think Kraven fits a lot of these guidelines as you spoke of in this movie. Especially with a new movie with Kraven coming out.. that’s possibly not far off
I bet kraven the hunter will be the main villain he haven't seen him in any movie yet and his solo movie is also coming
Aw man we should have had HobGoblin
A villian from his past can also main hob goblin his best friend ned
The problem with that theory that "people saw what happened" is, as I understood it, the entire world was made to forget about Spiderman, (who he was and, I thought, everything about him.) His friends didn't even remember ever having met Peter Parker. So, does that world at that point even know Spiderman exists? And, will they remember anything about the characters that crossed over into their universe or anything they did while there? Since it was all tied to Spiderman? It would be strange if they forgot about Spiderman's involvement in the fights, and just remembered those other characters being there. It seems like there would be some gaps in their memories that way. That being said, May was still dead, and MJ had a bandaid on her forehead. But if they remembered anything from those events, it seems as though they would have been talking about it. And nothing, that I recall, was mentioned about how May died at the graveyard when Parker met a Happy who didn't recognize him, so I guess it's hard to know how much the world remembers about those events.
I'm not sure if undoing the spell would be a good idea, though. Doesn't that mean people would again know about Peter Parker being Spiderman? I mean, if it were straight-up undone? Maybe if they could do an alternate version of the spell, where everything was remembered except for his true identity. That could work, I guess. Or they could do something with changing of timelines as the Deadpool and Wolverine events happen, and rewrite a bunch of things.
Parts of the idea that all Peter Parkers were affected by the spell appeals to me, and I feel like that could maybe work in some way. I'm just not sure the world is ready yet for another big multiverse-spanning story with Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield, and Tom Holland. Though, I guess it could be interesting if they made a trilogy out of it and included other iterations of Spiderman, like 2099, Mile Morales, etc. And threw in some characters like Spider-Gwen, Spiderwoman, and others.
Undoing the spell, though, zeros out the importance, and gravity of the sacrifice Parker made in having Strange do the spell at the end at all. It seems to me that by the end of whatever adventure lead to it all being put back to normal, any moral story about consequences would be squashed. Mess with the universe, end up an exile in your own world. Mess with it enough times, everything goes back to normal. That lesson doesn't quite have the gravity of "With great power comes great responsibility." Then again, who knows? It seems most time travel movies end up with a fixed ending in which everything gets put back to normal or better, so maybe they will try to go that way. Those always seemed like cop-out endings to me, but I still liked them.
Should’ve just done scorpion and job goblin or what if this isn’t green goblin and it’s someone inspired by green goblin but becomes hob goblin
Sounds like a Harry variant might show up.
Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man so far Toby McGuire was a good Peter parker but didn't quite pull off Spidey Andrew Garfield was a good Spidey but was to cool for Peter parker but tom Holland has pulled both of. Would like to see a MCU green goblin but really would like to see scorpion or hob goblin or jackle
I was just rewatching the Spider-Man animated series. Smythe’s voice actor sounds just like Theo James. That would be a good villian leading to Kingpin.
I think this is a good move since we don't know how long Tom would want to continue being Spider-Man past this trilogy. I'd like to imagine a big part of why they're doing the inspiration route for Green Goblin (should this be real) is to finally set up the MCU Oscorp or Dark Avengers
It would be amazing to see Ned working for kingpin and it sets up hobgoblin also it shows how Peter’s absence affects Ned.
Alex P said the Goblin and Doc Ock would happen “when the time comes”, I don’t think he meant it would immediately happen during Spider-Man 4.
Kinda still hoping for Daredevil and Kingpin to be in Spiderman 4. However with so many villains in Spidey’s rouge gallery we still need to draw upon the well. Dmitry (Chameleon) was working for sheild when his boy Mysterio was there in Far from Home. Yeah they were buds in the comics. And I still think Mysterio will show up again. Also the Scorpion was in Homecoming talking to the Vulture at the end in prison. four guys who could be Sinister Six already appeared in Marvel’s Spider-Man movies.
Could mean someone found the og goblin mask and decided to make something or an idea out of it
If we get Lego Sets for this movie I Hope the Black Suit/Symbiote is one of the Minifigures we get
them doing something new for Spidey is very interesting.
My ideal new MCU trilogy for villains roughly is, Spider Man 4: Kingpin is mayor outlaws vigilantes, villains like scorpion , shocker and maybe even prowler (as a cameo from Spiderverse) (we can even seen Norman and Otto as cameos) are all after Peter. Peter makes somewhat easy work of them instigating Kingpin to hire renowned hunter, Kraven, who is craving a worthy opponent. This all happens and then Kraven kills Peter and Kraven buries him like in the comics. The misplaced symbiote then finds Peter's grave and boom Bully Holland is here and the film can either end here or he can nearly kill Kraven. Credit scene could then be Andrew and Tobey entering the MCU again with Doctor Strange setting up Secret Wars and the spell being slightly undone.
Secret Wars: Peter has the black suit and Tobey is telling him its bad news, Tom doesn't listen and believes it makes him better at being Spiderman, feeding and preying on his pain from No Way Home.
Spiderman 5: Tom realises "yeah maybe this black suit is bad news" after going berserk on low level criminals or scorpion or whoever. He then attempts to remove the black suit. He is successful in this and the symbiote flees to find a new host. It finds the MCU Eddie Brock who kinda hates Peter already (Bugle drama) and Venom declares him worthy. This means we can get the Peter vs Venom moment we have all wanted.
Spiderman 6: Kingpin who is still the overarching villain hires a team of villains to take down Peter. Here we can see green goblin and doc ock as well as other villains that we may have already seen to form a sinister six. Peter manages to defeat them and decides to go after Kingpin.
This is all very rough but I would love to see Kraven and Venom as their own villains in movies and I would love an actual sinister six comprised of all Tom Holland MCU villains. I would also love to see daredevil help Peter fight Kingpin and I would want to see Miles Morales show up somehow.