Spider-Man 4 NED TURNS INTO HOBGOBLIN & Big Multiverse Connection!
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- Spider-Man 4 Ned turns into Hobgoblin and becomes one of the villains of Spider-Man 4 in the MCU. In Marvel Comics Ned is Hobgoblin and Jacob Batalon has teased his character turning into the villain for years now. In this video we share how Ned can turn into Hobgoblin and turn against Peter Parker Spider-Man, who he does not know at this point in time thanks to Doctor Stranges' spell from Spider-Man No Way Home. Spider-Man 4 MCU new plot details!
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His mind is wiped . So it’s kinda like a start over. Now there is no emotions attached to their relationship. They can now give him a reason to hate Spider-Man.
I can’t imagine any world where I find this character menacing as the hobgoblin
Same I won’t be able to take it seriously at all
Yeah no matter how much weight and how fit he gets his face just doesn’t scream evil or menace. I hope he proves me wrong but jacobs cheeks and face just don’t fit a starring role at all.
Right!
I’m sorry but why does anyone still believe this clown and why do they believe Holyfield??? They’re the fakest “scoopers” ever
@@Fan-a-Bricksit's not about the look see the performance don't judge before you see I believe in him
I don’t know if I can take Ned as a villain seriously.
Yeah that was my reaction 😂
Unless the actor himself decided to sell his soul to the devil, you know, like many others do to as well, so he can do the part perfectly well! Who knows!
@@markflores4876let me guess you're a dillusional cristian? Got it.. stop preaching your fairy tale..
Agreed
Fisk turns Ned against Peter
That's what I believe could happen. Spider-Man abandoning him and MJ and Fisk makes him consumed by it. Though to MJ, she thinks he's doing what he has too to protect them, even if it meant distancing from them.
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If Peter is caught on Fisk’s surveillance following Ned & MJ, intervening in &/or out of costumed disguise, those he cares about become vulnerable. Fisk drives the wedge by turning Ned, before hand “The hero always chooses the girl, big guy” with the choice being his secret handshake with Ned or the secrets of love a lifetime before with MJ, Tom’s Peter comes to a canon event in his nexus, then, playing into Spiderman TAS we should see how this all bleeds in the live-action presentation of Spiderverse so that we get Miles and the Spot’s Fisk story where Daredevil, Hobgoblin, Venom & Carnage were all in the episode taking that story and Spot’s Time Dilation technology picked up by Fisk in absence of Stark support at the Expo, and didn't Far From Home set that up for us already anyway?!
@@rossgowran8122I hope MJ will regain her memories
Spiderman The Animated Series Sins of the Father.
Mordo gave Eddie & Kletus the symbiotes
Venom & Carnage, as the gift of Dormanu, which then, released them from prison in an effective attempt to bring the Symbiote-god through a wormhole by stealing
Dr. John Ohn’s Intedimensional portal the predecessor of the Time Dilation Pojector’s from a Stark Expo.
Warmachine intervenes & Ironman had to show up, Tony eventually said the tech was too dangerous to support.
The Time Dilation Portal technology ended up with Fisk in TAS (the animated series, not The Amazing Spiderman TASM) & as we’ve seen in “Into & Across the Spiderverse” already, the creation of the Spot, alongside Dr. Sylvia Lopez.
Meanwhile, Felicia Hardy,
Dr. Ashley Kaufka,
Doc Conners,
Madame Web, cameos…
Dormanu gets a body of flesh...momentarily!
Since Ned doesn't know peter now its best to make Ned turn into hobgoblin easily and hate peter
Good point.
Yea but how lol
Exactly! That's exactly what i thought the very first time i watched this part of Ned tell Peter he would never turn against him1
I think that Ned will develop feelings for MJ and that Peter will come back into her life because he can't keep himself away from her. Ned will probably become jealous and discover that Peter is Spiderman.
This was being set up by no way home.
They i think joked with him but it was serious they told him he can no longer play Ned unless he starts working out.
I knew this was coming. Ned started getting in shape back in Spider-Man 2
He was obese in 3?
Yes, we need him back, but this time he becomes the Hob Goblin trying to take down his former best friend who is Spider-Man!
I’ve been waiting for a live action Hobgoblin and I know it’s been multiple people to take on that mantle but Ned would be more devastating since that was his best friend
What if when willem Defoe came into the main universe, before anyone found him, he found Ned and brainwashed him then. I remember Norman saying something about how he’d been wandering around for a while before finding feast
STOP IT !!!
Your just lying to yourself
I love the idea, I just hope Jacob Batalon can sell us with the dark side of his acting
it does seem as though he's getting in shape... possibly for that kind of role.
I do hate see their friendship got that route, but it makes sense for him to become the Hobgoblin as he did in the comics... but yes, he was brainwashed.
The most prevalent Hobgoblin I grew up with was Jason Phillip Macendale Jr.'s Hobgoblin. I think he may have even brainwashed Flash Thompson to be his Hobgoblin scapegoat at one point though Flash didn't have any powers.
But Jason was the one always searching for more power. He became bonded to a demon to become a Demonic version of Hobgoblin. Then he got separated and that Demonic half became The Demogoblin. But then he sought out Kraven the Hunter's heir; Vladimir Kravinoff the Grim Hunter, and traded Kraven's journal for the chance to get Kraven's powers. Then when Green Goblin returned on the heels of the Clone Saga, he had also augmented himself with cybernetics. And then he was just wasted, shot to death in a jail cell by the real Hobgoblin, Roderick Kingsley.
But I did hear Ned somehow came back to life in the comics.
Awesome always wondered where Ned from movies came from qnd hobogoblin from comics never got to read those thanks
Yeah it’s pretty obvious this was gonna happen . What makes this even harder for Peter is he remembers Ned but Ned won’t remember Peter
Just because Ned doesn't remember Peter, he will still know he worked with spiderman and can use a sling ring. So, he could still go to seek out someone to teach him. 4 could only build up to him becoming the villain while 5 or 6 can have him as one of the main ones. Therefore, gives time for him to learn magic instead of some off screen build up
I called it Ned is gonna be hob goblin 👹
Same bro! Too much foreshadowing in NWH
First, prove it
Second, good for you! You must be very proud.
@@TedSallisakaManThing you must be miserable lmao. Getting onna comment section to hate😂 more power to you
Idc, I was the first person to call it.
wow no shit
I also all my friend saw it coming but just feels like shouldve happend sooner tbh if there no venom in this movie or carnage would be missed chance
do like they used mysterio in 2nd movie he one of my favorite villians
I like the idea of Mordo turning Ned against Peter!
this would be so cool, especially with the whole thing of Peter knowing and remembering all of his history with Ned but Ned not knowing him could really be a great spiderman movie and put Peter in a very difficult position
Even when I recalled Mordo saying so… I got canceled for saying sling ringing Parkers from across the multiverse
they retconned that shit because then america chavez character became completely pointless. they obv want to make it difficult to travel across the multiverse for whatever reason.
@@ski_free_exe that's why Spiderman 4 needs to take the Sins of the Father arch from the animated series and work off of Far From Home and Across the Spiderverse
@@ski_free_exe Sony failed by killing off the main black guy after telling him he couldn’t BBQ to save his life.
Mike Epps made the perfect Jefferson Davis to Donald Glover’s Aaron Davis if Madame Web was set in 2003.
2018, Miles would be 15 taking on the mantle of webbheaded wall-crawler in Into the Spiderverse, meaning Cassandra should have been playing matchmaker & protective aunt to Miles considering Miguel’s Canon Claus!
Rather than a privileged Peter born that doesn't fit the multiverse timeline nor is even Nicholas Hammond, we need a clear establishment of Andrew Garfield NY vs Tom Hardy in SF.
Be nice if Cassandra Nova got Ned’s slingring in DP3
I knew it. I knew when he said that line that's what they were going to do.
He’s an amazing actor and with him getting fit he could be a menacing villain, but tbh their friendship was one of my favorite parts of the trilogy
Based off some leakers I heard green goblin is gonna be villain in the next trilogy so possibly he makes Ned become the hobgoblin
Maybe in a science fair Ned made a glider like machine, but peter remembered about Green goblin who also has a glider and tries to destroy it
I always appreciate your videos, always on time and always making them fun and entertaining. Well done bro and keep making more
Agreed brudda. I love Warren
I knew Ned was working out for a reason
Woof woof
It weird that ned doesnt know peter because they knew each other before he knew he was spiderman
once everyone sees the hob goblin reveal I feel like everyone In the theatres bouta laugh their ass off 😭
I see these two working together fighting against the villain, but not fighting each other
Ned’s gonna be in that suit looking like an orange
Pumpkin bomb 🎃💣
Dude is quite skinny now surprisingly
@@frankfort4717 well as long as he stays fitted ain't no one wants to see a blob hob goblin either way I wonder how he'll pull it off in regards that he doesn't have a menacing voice either but we'll see tho 🤷♂️
😂😂😂😂
A comment Peter made Ned forget their friendship show Ned being a villain now could work having no real friend
That’s what’s I’m sayin without Peter not existing no more he could jus go down a bad path
Peter and Ned better hurry and finish that Lego Death Star.
Too bad it broke in NWH🥲
Sadly Ned no longer remembers Peter
It is time for the Hob Goblin to shine in the movies.
Ned as hobgoblin that will be great I would love this
i can't wait for spider-man 4
I really would be interested in seeing a story with Ned as one of the villains. I don’t want him to be the main villain but I think he would make a fantastic secondary antagonist. I think the main villain needs to be Kraven, or maybe Prowler or Menace. These are some of my favorite spider-man villains and they all deserve the chance to be part of a bigger story in my opinion but with Ned for sure I prefer the idea that he’s either being manipulated or is under a spell or something like that. It’s certainly possible that he could be a Hobgoblin and I don’t have a problem with him turning dark and truthfully I do miss the character of Ned that was closer to the comic book version because I know that the version from the previous three movies is more based off the Genki character from Miles’ series and really that’s not my Ned. So yes I do think that it could work but I also think that this would probably work better if they made it clear that he was being manipulated or he was just under a spell because I do also think that it would be better to show that there is the possibility he might turn good again.
Thank you for sharing this report and I hope that thls turns out to be a fantastic new chapter for Spider-man!
The next movie should have three villains Hobgoblin Scorpion and Prowler
No.. it shouldn't
@@rzn2258 why not who do you want the villain of the next Spider-Man movie to be Kingpin is going to be in it but he's not going to be the main villain for which Spider-Man super villain would you like to see instead of just saying no to what I'm saying give me some things that you want to see in Spider-Man 4
@@rzn2258 yes it should Mac Gargan was introduced so long ago in Spider-Man Homecoming in the post credit scene of Spider-Man Homecoming they show that he wants revenge on Spider-Man for putting him in prison the story can be that Kingpin helps get
Mac Gargan out of prison he also gets the Tinkerer released from Spider-Man Homecoming Kingpin then hires the tinkerer to make a Scorpion suit a second version of the Vultures suit Kingpin hires Mac Gargan to kill Spider-Man so he puts him in the suit so he can become Scorpion Kingpin orders Scorpion to kill Spider-Man if he does that Kingpin will make Scorpion a rich man paying him in millions Mac Gargan already wants revenge on Spider-Man and it was set up so long ago it is time to pay off that post credit scene so we can see the return of that character from Spider-Man Homecoming in this new film we want to see Scorpion stab Spider-Man with his tail at first Jay Jonah Jameson Wright's good things about Scorpion because he beats up and defeats Spider-Man after Scorpion stabbed Spider-Man with his tail everybody think scorpion killed Spider-Man slowly the media starts turning on Scorpion for being a murderer killing Spider-Man and many other people and Jay Jonah Jameson makes fun and hates Scorpion the Scorpions popularity disappears in everybody turns on him the whole city of New York everyone starts hating scorpion because of what JJJ said about him and because he made fun of him Scorpion tries to kill JJJ
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It’s his multiverse self that drops in to that dimension
That sound good, but barrow Morado was still a run at the end of Doctor Strange the first one. It would be better to say that Baron Morado was unaffected by the Chou spells from Doctor Strange causing people to forget about Peter Parker being Spider-Man. Felt them and could not stand for a spell of the magnitude be used so frivolously so he went to find Spider-Man to make pay for it, but he finds Ned first cause Ned has a family lineage in magic. So he brainwashes Ned to use him to in act his plan against Spider-Man.
*I think it would be better if they make Ned an Antivillain instead of a full blown villain, but because his tactics are too extreme Peter has to stop him, and this create a weird dynamic between them, kinda like Daredevil and The Punisher, also Ned still remembers he's a friend of Spiderman, he just don't know who he is behind the mask*
Awesome video
There’s also that rumor that some of the next antagonists will be “inspired” by the villains in No Way Home. I could see them going down a route where Ned bases his hobgoblin off of the green goblin he saw/met during NWH on top of everything this video mentioned
2:04 He was wearing ORANGE & BLUE right there!
What the frig? This is insane. Given, that would be the most epic body transformation ever. You cant have a chubby hob goblin
He’s been getting in shape with new photos online and when it comes to Hollywood they make it happen quickly for roles
Ned has been notified anversary will back to next to previously verse version afterward be sent to sinister six.
i like to see a comic book accurate Ned Leeds. This one is a bit Big to glide on a glider....
Ned doesn't know Peter anymore so he didn't remember saying he won't turn in to a villin and kill peter
That is gonna be crazy but so great!
Good video. I hope it happens
I’m here for it
Finally. My first and always favorite villain from the 99s show, given the credit on screen
Either ned works for the daily bugle and he wants to find out who is under the mask. So he goes for hob gob for help but he brain washed him and instead hes like spider man is a enemy and then they fight but peter takes out neds mask then peter tries to convince him so he doesnt hurt him and ned understood and got rid of his powers or is using it to fight crime with spiderman
This sounds amazing, I hope they make this happen...
I knew this would happen after No Way Home
The Hobgoblin is one of my favourite Spider-Man Villains, so IMO this is exciting.
If they want Ned’s character to grow and be included this seems like the best route
Definitely 💯 called it when he said he would never kill Peter❗️ Super excited❗️
Nice. I like this
I am definitely looking forward to seeing how this is going to play out. 😈
After a lot of story stuff, Ned could eventually remember life before the spell and could realise Peter broke his promise he made at the end of No Way Home and that could lead to a hatred, a lack of trust.
This is wild 😜
I knew this day would come!
Great Idea 💡 mcu
I’m kinda excited for this I want to see how they would make him threatening and also I just love the hobgoblin he’s such a cool villain
Yes!
Imagine how much material that suit will need 😲 buddy was already big and got huge
He's done other movies that were well done.
Here for this. Hobgoblin was my first goblin.
This could be cool as a plot thread with tie ins
Ned looks like he’d be named Hob Goblin 😂
I think it would be great to see him as a villain
We'll see
I think with the last video you mentioned about the spell wearing off will be a great way to explain Ned being hobgoblin. It can be based off jealousy of once he remembers. I say SM 5-6 tease at the end of SM 4
Hob goblin, the rose, and kingpin let’s go
I would love for this to happen
Using his magic to become hobgoblin and eventually Demogoblin. Ned finds a patron to empower him and attack Spider-Man. MJ becomes and investigator and activist but gets hurt while investigating Fisk. Spider-Man tried to stop an attack on MJ but fails to fully stop an attack. Ned blames Spider-Man for the harm done to MJ (Coma )and trains his magical abilities to capture or kill Spider-Man and help Fisk. Fisk hires him to track down Spider-Man along with other villains- Prowler, Scorpion, Black Cat, Tombstone, ect- all working for the task force. Ned taps into the energy of a mystical Patron. This patron should be an extra-dimensional demon of some sort. Loop in symbiote and Miles Morales and you have some decent multiversal elements. When/if Peter dones the black symbiote costume Ned's Transformation into Demogoblin accelerates as the hellfire it unleashes is one of the few things that harms the symbiote. Ned could enchant and enhance (curse) a team of villains with hell fire to kill Black suit symbiote Spider-Man. agical abilitiesmagical abilities
Promises a Goblin breaks.
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1:33 I didn't think John Cryor would be a good LEX LUTHOR, until I saw him play Lex Luthor. So, range is possible.
This could be the best thing for Tom's character. Heartbreaking to see them against each other. Pay off when Pete saves him .Or .....
Would love to see it
I think everyone guess this after No Way Home came out, but I am still stoked to see it happen
I’ve wanted hobgoblin for so long in the films proper
Did Green Goblins glider disappear with everyone else? Steal that, Ned!
It should've disappeared and I doubt Ned is smart enough to know how to operate tech that's not even from his universe
Regardless of what origin they give Ned as hobgoblin the best part is peter trying to fight him once he realizes that it's ned
the sling ring was not to travel the multiverse, it was to cross dimensions which is part of the same universe, like the dark dimension showcased in DS 1
I find it hard to believe there would be a glider with the weight capacity to carry ned
Ned HobGoblin all for it !
Curious as to what happened to Green Goblins glider actually after NWH, could be just sitting around for Ned to find 😂
just hope he bulks up a lot for ts
We knew that. He teased pics awhile back
one of the concept arts scrapped from no way home was a hobgoblin suit made of the remains from Green Goblins helmet and I can’t imagine a cooler way to introduce this character, made a 3d model based of the concept, might animate a Spiderman 4 fan trailer.
Think there heading this way
Damn...I was hoping he was gonna get the symbiote that was left behind
❤
I would like this a lot
Well let’s get him in super shape. It would be a big change and make him a bit more intimating… plus it’s good for the actor himself.
Jacob did do really well in the movie Tarot. Maybe he is cut out for dark roles.
I want this, give it a try !
I think Kingpin might have something to do with Ned’s change. 💥