"Suburban Wasteland?" Walking Scarborough in Toronto's East End
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- A Toronto walk through Scarborough starting at Warden Station and making my way north to Kennedy Station.
0:01 - TTC Warden Station
5:12 - East on St Clair Avenue East
14:50 - Birchmount & St Clair (St Clair Ravine Park)
17:45 - North on Anaconda Avenue
22:52 - North on Birchmount Road
37:05 - East on Eglinton Avenue East
46:20 - South on Kennedy Road
47:14 - East on Transitway Crescent
49:28 - TTC Kennedy Station
Recorded in 4K at 60 FPS with a DJI Pocket 2 on Tuesday, April 12, 2022.
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That’s your opinion, but don’t appreciate the repetitive put-downs and insults in the video. If you care so much about the “urban design” of Scarborough then send this to the politicians who can actually do something about it.
By putdowns you mean observations of things seen in plain sight? 🙄
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@@Babydoll-gf6cm Oh no lol
I like Scarborough. It's diverse, convenient, and easy access to frequent TTC service.
I remember it when it was just fields.
@@parkerbohnn You used to live in Toronto since the 1960’s?
@@thevultrantransituniverse1487 Since 1958 in Scarborough. Wantanopa Cresent.
Unless you live in the neighborhood, nobody in their right mind really "walks to kennedy station". Most people just ride the bus to the station. It's been always terrible to walk to Kennedy even before the construction. You just ride a bus, any bus, that passes through the intersection at Kennedy and Eglinton. It may be full, but the busses are pretty frequent is so it is typically a non-issue.
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He's trying to show the place idiot. That is why he walked to Kennedy Station. I made that walk from the school to Eglington hundred of times as a kid. Thanks for this video bro. Great childhood memories from that area.
In general, if you are Rich in Scarborough you drive your customized pocket rocket with the big muffler and everyone else takes the bus. You stand a real good chance of getting hit by a car if you cross mid-block since no one does the speed limit and no one looks at anything more than six feet in front of them. At night no one goes out. We just had five people shot in a plza while deciding where to eat at 1:00 AM. Scarborough is a dangerous place with gangs and guns.
This is all because of car-dependent sprawl caused by pro-car and anti-transit politics. Despite Kennedy being a very busy station, there is very little density around. Coming from Vancouver where a lot of stations have transit-oriented development, it is very surprising to see how there are many suburban TTC stations that have more parking lots than buildings.
Not Just Bikes explains all of this really well, particularly in his video on GO Transit and how car-dependent transit is a very dysfunctional thing.
@@naturallyherb lol that’s wtf needs fixing: abolish private carz on Canadian streets
I was a kid in Scarborough in the 1970s and early 1980s. The whole "kids on bikes" film genre (ET, Stranger Things etc.) was real for us. At the time there were still farms in the area I lived. The transit situation in Scarborough is complicated. There were numerous transit projects that were introduced, and then cancelled when a new government took power in the Province of Ontario. A recent debacle was when converting the SRT to an LRT was cancelled by Rob Ford, because Scarborough needed a subway. Uh-huh.
And here we are 12 years later. There is no Scarborough subway extension, no LRT on Sheppard East, and the original SRT trains from 1985 (which are falling apart) are still running. To describe all the back-and-forth over the last 30 years would take many paragraphs, so I won't do it. Some governments addressed the problem, only to have their plans undone later. In the end, Scarborough 3was left with nothing much.
Hi William,
Talk about classic movies to the infrastructure and the progress so far. Very informative and I for one appreciate the details. Johnny Stride is doing an awesome job in making his videos. Good luck and Blessings!
Hi William. Yes Scarborough almost had a network of rapid transit LRT routes, (note the plural) but car centric imbecilic politicians felt that the people want subways. Horse puckies to that I say, they just want reliable non-bus transit, not necessarily overpriced to be under utilised subways.
They've already begun construction on the Scarborough line.
@@blurtam188 Aren't we the lucky ones.
@@blurtam188 Yes. But it has been 12 years. It should have opened by now, not just begun construction.
Wow ! Scarborough has definitely a vibe! Warden Station! ...Sleek and nice!
Unless one is a senior or has mobility issues it's a horse's pattotty!!!!
@@dennisrankin325 Warden's about to be re-built and made accessible!
@@wardenstationneighbourhood6342 Uhuh. When?
"A preliminary schedule aims to start work on the first phase in 2022 with completion planned for 2026." Saw tenders for it close last week so hopefully they'll announce the winner soon.
I remember the poolhall just south of there and they had an arcade license with about 12 pinball machines. Mid 1980's
Scarborough is NOT a wasteland. Love Scarborough is my home. Born and raised.
I love Scarborough too! Outsiders love to criticize things they know nothing about.
I never said it was... but I've heard it called that countless times hence the title. Cheers
I like your videos; however, please do not speak poorly of Scarborough. It is a great place with even greater people!
I did not speak poorly of the people of Scarborough... just the built environment which are fair criticisms IMO
@@JohnnyStrides You're a liar. People are proud of what they have and their family memories. Not you creep and you're knowledge about a great many topics is incredibly thin, the amount of mistakes you make is truely laughable but common with 'gays' or feminine sounding urban males. You're in your own little prejudiced world full of bigotry and parrotting. Bicycles are useless and backward, like techo music, head bands and your many other over cologned choices.
@@JohnnyStrides indeed, there are many delightful people here, thank you from my family for that.
But yes it is by and large a bland collection of architectural so sos and vacant lots, all of it generally anti-pedestrian . It ain't the Danforth or Bloor West, that's for sure!!!!
If you aren't critical of where you live, there will be no incentive to improve it.
@@JohnnyStrides For me its broken memories. "Like did I really live here?" Looking forward to the 60th Cedarbrae school reunion next year in May.
I usually enjoy your videos, but unfortunately found this one quite condescending. There are plenty of other uplifting neighbourhoods in Scarborough you could have chosen like Rouge Beach, Port Union waterfront just to name a few
I chose a path connecting two major subway stations... seems fair to me.
And what's condescending about simply describing an area the way it is? 🤷♀️ I spoke nothing of the people or communities there, just the (bleak) built environment.
When you pick the most underdeveloped part of a suburb to showcase, it gives the impression that the entire suburb is the same which is incorrect. Some may prefer a quieter residential area for raising families. Your single cycling lifestyle is different, so naturally you do not appreciate the value of living away from the overstimulating downtown core.
@@Babydoll-gf6cm 🤦♀I literally picked a part between two major subway stations. 90% of Scarborough looks no different. Quieter residential areas are fine, but they belong nowhere near a subway station and should still be in walkable neighbourhoods, and yes bike lanes should be present. You're advocating for unsustainable, car-centric neighbourhoods in the largest city in Canada... an area does need to be "overstimulated" to be feature good urban design.
That’s your opinion, but don’t appreciate the repetitive put-downs and insults in the video. If you care so much about the “urban design” of Scarborough then send this to the politicians who can actually do something about it.
@@Babydoll-gf6cm lol you're taking this far too personally. Yes, most of Scarborough does in fact features abominable urban design.. but so do some other areas of Toronto. Getting offended whenever someone points this out is pretty sad.
Have not seen that area Warden,St.Clair. In over 40 yrs. Looking west on St. Clair. The first house on top of hill was owned by my Grandparents. Grandad was chauffer for the old age home across the street.
Thank you for the flash back memory. Making music for the residents very often in my early years.
Would walk the halls at Christmas and play carols with my older cousin.
Great video! I did that commute from Warden station taking the Birchmount 17A or 17C (express bus) for many years. Completely forgot about that cemetary. Really like that you may revisit the St. Clair Ravine in a future video.
Thanks for highlighting our neighbourhood!
Raised in Scarborough still here in Scarborough. If you can survive here, you can survive anywhere.
When I lived in Scarborough every street in Scarborough had a road hockey team and all the teams from each street would play each other.
This looks very much like one of those unwalkable places that "not just bikes" talks about; endless Stroads and unpleasant sidewalks right next to traffic. Neat channel, are there any like it that cover cities like Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver?
This video is actually doing a *fantastic* job of showing how screwed up city planning is in Scarbs:
- zero walkable amenities or density (even planned density) near a subway stop
- three lane road with barely any room for pedestrians and cyclists on a major intersection
- huge swaths of parking near a transit stop
- almost exclusively single-family homes within walking distance of the stop
- nearest subway stop is a solid hour walk away for most folks.
- no alternate walking routes provided for normal routes closed to construction
Local councillors should be forced to watch this video in its entirety and maybe should have to make this walk themselves before they can vote on zoning and development proposals for the area 😂
Edit: I should be clear, I live in North York close to the Scarborough border; Scarborough is full of hidden gems. Walk Lawrence east of Victoria park and you'll have some of the best Asian/middle eastern food of your life. Walk Kingston road from the beaches to the bluffs and you'll see some fantastic nature along the eastern waterfront with very little foot traffic. The reason they are hidden is mostly because they're totally inaccessible to anyone who doesn't own a car or isn't willing to cycle in three lanes of traffic
Great points!
Hey I grew up on Eglinton (2239 to be exact). Lived there up until I was 17. Many memories of that walk - thanks so much!
Glad you enjoyed it
you got to do a walk around the bluffs. idk if you have already done this. you are so close to them in this video!!
Scarborough bluffs is definitely a great suggestion.
He won’t be exploring any uplifting places in Scarborough because it doesn’t fit the “Scarberia” narrative he is presenting
I used to climb the bluffs all the time when I was a kid. My cousins lived on Prince Philip Boulevard. It sure has changed since then.
My old hood!! I lived across the parking lot and train tracks on Kenmark Blvd! They've been working on Kennedy station for like 10 years!!
I came for the comments, wasn't disappointed, lol. Great video Johnny lots of love from a wasteland.
Suburban Wasteland, yup, most of it is. Grew up at St. Clair and Birchmount and live there again after vowing never to return because that description of the bulk of Scarberia is so apropos. Ah well, life leads us in odd directions. In over 60 years, for pedestrians, it has not improved.
Your walk along St. Clair was my hike to and from W. A. Porter High School. I tease my kids that when I went to school it was uphill both ways twice due to the Taylor Creek ravine.
In passing St. Joachim school, you reminded me of helping to look after two ponies which lived in a shed next door and would be tethered in a field each day for the fresh grass. Behind the Beer Store and to the left is an apartment building that I watched being built, played on its construction sight and now live in.
We lack amenities here, like a grocery store, playground or decent eatery. They are a fair hike away. Mama's Burgers, Timmy's and Sun Valley are three long bus stops and about a half mile by foot. It ain't the Danforth Toto!
Birchmount and St. Clair has only one laudable thing for ease of access to most urban conveniences. That's that the TTC has 6 bus routes which pass here to take one to Warden Station. That station, to an elder, is a horse's backside of a hell hole, but once on a train, desirable urban civilisation is not far off.
Your hike up Birchmount showed the western edge of the Pine Hills Cemetery. Ignoring its main function, as it is a pleasant, forested and well groomed oasis to hike its many roadways.
The railway track you crossed, although once upon a time was part of Torontonians MacKenzie and Mann's Canadian Northern Railway's mainline to Montreal, is now merely the left overs from a once very busy connection for numerous industries to the outside world. For a few years the GM van building plant on Eglinton west of Warden, required three trains a day to service it alone. Each one of those longish trains would have had to cross Birchmount to be able to clear the switch to push back to access GM. This industrial complex was developed as such during WW2 to look after the munitions plants which were out here in the hinterlands to the west of Birchmount. During that time, the Hollinger Bus Lines from East York, brought the war workers to their jobs connecting with TTC's Danforth cars at Woodbine and likely Dawes and Luttrell too.
Your comment about worst entrance at Kennedy is because by foot you should have stayed on the sidewalk on Eglinton. There's a more direct access to an entrance on the right past the other side of the LRT construction site there. I'm assuming Google thought you were a car.
I biked most of this frequently many, many moons ago and was part of the construction crew that worked on the track from Warden to Kennedy.
Thanks for the memories Johnny.
Thank you for sharing!
@@JohnnyStrides And you too. Quite a hike you took and as I said, my old and somewhat still stompin' grounds. Appreciated.
Thank you for the recollections of our neighbourhood!
On and in case you didn't already know, the strip mall with the beer store will be developed into a 16 storey condo.
And the station itself will be undergoing major renovations soon, making it accessible!
I almost forgot they named a park after my cousin's father in Scarborough. Freddy Johnson Park. He lived in Guildwood Village. I was there for the opening ceremonies the day it opened.
I would have liked to see you walk south on Warden all the way to Kingston Rd. and the Birchcliff neighborhood, my childhood home.
I spent about 40 years at Greenwood racetrack which also included all the years at thorncliffe bowlerama. I used to go on benders playing pinball machines for 3 or 4 days straight and I mean straight 24 hours a day. I did also bowl professionally. Only pissed about 5 times in 4 days and my friends would bring me beer and cigarettes. I used to pay for everyone beer and bowling after the races. We always stayed there the entire night into the morning the next day.
I lived in Scarborough for most of my life (moved to Vancouver 13 years ago and other than the subway and the Scotiabank and Correction site nothing looks familiar. (and no I did not spend time at the correction centre).
Come back to Scarborough 🥰
Nothing really changed a whole lot since the 1960's in Scarborough.
I honestly didn't know Scarborough was a wasteland with no attractions or good transit until I moved to North York a decade ago lol.
i like your videos. was watching before moving and still do when i have moved near the area.
Oh people of Scarborough! We need to separate from Toronto. The city of Toronto doesn’t care about us.
Maybe a trip to Lawrence west station and a walk east or west from there next time?
I'll be back to Wexford soon, it's a neat area.
You picked a route that would deff look like a bit of a wasteland. If you’d walked straight east from warden the same distance you would have found some better plazas, another nice cemetery/park to walk through, and ended up at the bluffs with an incredible view
I'm going to get out to the Bluffs soon!
Johnny, you have lost a follower now and a whole lot of respect. Normally I don’t have a problem with people stating their opinions, but the way in which you went about it and especially the way you have been replying to modest comments just seems unlike your normal candor - unproffesional and not very self aware. “Suburban wasteland” is not at all an objective way to do walking tours of a city. I’m done.
If you've paid attention to my prior videos you'd know I'm no fan of car-centric design, strip malls, poorly utilized spaces etc etc... basically suburbia which this video features in spades. I strongly believe in calling a spade a spade. Cheers
I lived there in the late 1950's early 1960's. When I was about 4 and a half years old I could beat every adult in the city on any pinball machine. The same in Toronto. I went on to become 6 time world pinball champion. I never worked I just played pinball machines about 12 hours a day everyday for the last 60 years. I remember all the pinball arcades.
Can you do agincourt? Or somewhere around midland and finch? Such a cool area, i think its got the highest immigrant population in north america:)
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Excellent video, its sad to know that the RT is being closed.
I always used it. But that's what happens with a lack of forward thinking and planning.
29:37 Canada Kanthaswamy Temple Society (Scarborough) which is a Hindu temple, Mostly known by frequenters as Kanthaswamy Temple
I like this “suburban wasteland”, keep the yuppies, Starbucks and condos out of my area thanks! 🤪
You must be a motorist. Pedestrians don't appreciate the suburban blah, distances and inaccessibilities.
@@dennisrankin325 move downtown then? There are plenty of walkable areas in Scarborough. Agincourt and the Town Centre neighbourhood come to mind
@@essgee4225 Uhuh. If I could I would, but family issues keep that out of my reach I'm sorry to say.
And desirably walkable areas, Town Centre is not one that's for sure. Don't know where in Agincourt you could possibly mean, just another burb development and fast, inhospitable arterial roads. The old Kingston Road maybe, Warden to Birchmount. There sure isn't much else than that.
I did say more than 90% yuck, but that leaves only 10% of this big Borough to be hunted down.
Love the video brother. I went to General Brock PS
. My mom is buried in Pine Hills cemetery
You do realize families live in this “suburban wasteland” right?
Easy to judge, from your ivory tower of the Downtown Core.
Yes, and those families deserve better than hostile sidewalks, superhighways posing as roads (sans protected bike lanes) etc etc. This area ought to be so much better, but as per usual the people have been let down by extremely poor planning.
Everywhere shown in this video seems familiar to me bc I used to work at St Clair and Kennedy for over 20 yrs before I retired but I had never been walking on the Street though
Beautiful street view. 💖🏡
Nice place❤
Wow that suburban style plaza looks pretty old school
The 1st mistake you made was getting off at Warden and not Kennedy, Scarborough doesn't end at Kennedy Station
Is Scarborough ingored by city hall in downtown Toronto am just asking
Johnny is in my area today wow that's crazy
How long from Kenney station to young an e.g. In the bus 🚌 Johnny
Along Old Kingston Rd would be a nice walk. Walking east through the Rouge. South of the U of T Scarboro campus.
When you are at the Kennedy subway station, please use the escalator going up and leave the stairs for those going down to the Subway. It's sort of an unwritten rule. Nice video.
I went to the U of T Scarborough campus. They had snooker tables the big 6x12 foot tables, a bar and a pinball arcade which was later enclosed. Pierre Trudeau once spoke there when I was there. I used to play snooker at the Golden Cue in Scarborough with Kirk Stevens and the owner Joe and Sammy who was ranked second in northern Ireland to Alex Higgins at the time. Kirk never went to school ever. They used to phone every morning from Bendale to make sure he was there.
Transit City, planned during David Miller's time as mayor, would have replaced the SRT (Line 3) with a LRT line from Kennedy to STC and beyond to Malvern. Once Rob Ford got in, out the plans went. After many a game of hot potato, we're where we are today.
The 34 bus will run every 20 minutes or so from Kennedy to Mount Dennis once Line 5 opens.
Cheers!
Helloo Johnny Strides..good morning bro and hoped your workweek is going well and secured. This was an awesume good☀️☀️salubrious spring walk through Scarborough junction and Ionview neighborhoods. pleasse don't bother with the hard critical comments below cause your walks through the city will continue to be 👌 oscar award winning gold star best! well-detailed and informative and those awesume vids are a game-changer compared to what the media don't dare to show to public! I used to worked as security at that home lumber ltd at 759 birchmount but left for better tings, crappy company and contract lmoa..oooh and that building on northeast corner of birchmount/Comstock is a Sri Lankan or Indian temple 🕌 mosque to my knowledge wen I last saw it in 2015...yaa LRT soon looking good on eglinton east to Kennedy stn, golden mile hood will be goldener lol..OK cheers
Setasiunnya rapi dan bersih..
Have you stayed in L. A. once a time? Good, these neighborhood that you show in these video is similar L. A. outskirts. The only difference is that the colour here, greener than L. A.
And as a desirable life, LA is pretty low on the totem pole.
How far is Warden from Teasdale place ?
I see how you thought this video’s title might make some people angry, as you mentioned in your recent livestream. But the title sounds pro ukraine, so it’s probably less offensive in the West.
43:26 that plaza area preparing for demolition?
That plaza will be leveled to make way for the Scarborough subway TBM shaft.
Oh, that makes sense why there's no development proposal signs on that land. Cheers
@@JohnnyStrides You should see promotional banners from Metrolinx talking about the new Scarborough subway and what a great contribution this site will be to the construction of it. attached to the fencing eventually. I know the plaza just opposite Kennedy has its banners emplaced. When the construction is done I expect it will be sold off for a condo developer to place a nice new condo there instead of the low-density plaza in about ten years (I expect this project to go over budget and experience timeline creep)
That area needs more development
scarborough is not much of a bike culture city
careful with your phrasing dude, people from scarborough are proud of their roots.
to be fair, he did phrase it as a question...
well said
lol thanks for the threat... 🙄
@@JohnnyStrides Lol that wasnt a threat dude go for a walk
@@DopeEd lol sure thing, you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills while I'm out taking a walk ;)
tf you mean wasteland, this shit ain't a game homie, this ain't mf fallout76, put some respek on Scarborough's name, hard workers and beautiful neighborhoods, this some bullshit.
I can't tell if this comment is a joke or not...
You should have heard what this pos said walking around an Etobicoke neighbourhood three weeks ago.
@@JohnnyStrides It's a mindless troll Johnny.
All Familiar Trail. On the Comstock road I am having my car mechanic who fixes my car.
🤔 thats not that far. my doctor's office is at Morningside and Sheppard near the zoo.
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Stop dissin Scarborough my guy
The people there deserve so much better than a sprawling, suburban wasteland. I'm not going to stop calling out bad design because you said so 🤣
@@JohnnyStrides it ain't a wasteland really you know, millions would say otherwise
@@JohnWedds From a development and city building POV it absolutely is. Again the people there deserve better.
@@JohnnyStrides the places you visited in this vid are barely even Scarborough, and the bad parts aswell. Is the middle of Scarborough any different? Or still a "suburban wasteland" in your eyes?
You should have walked to T-Bones🍔
Me video first see I love you bro
Dude if you dont know Soho bar in that plaza your not from Scarb 😂😂
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Careful crossing the road, no one walks in Scarboro. Drivers don't look out for pedestrians. Don't use a bike either. Scarboro has no or few bike lanes. Don't go out after dark, you will be an easy target of gang and drug shooters.
Actually Scarlem is now a more appropriate name than Scarberia.
No. Just no. You know why.
Im upset, I usually love your videos and Ive been subscribed for awhile now...but the disrespect in this video...I'm not a fan. I think its best for me to unsubscribe.
Disrespect? lol
Nice video but what a depressing place to live. So car dependant
Ditto!
Not true
@@mexter07v2 What is not true?
@@GamesWorld03 depressing place to live is not true at all
@@mexter07v2 Well if you haven’t lived anywhere else then yeah
Do you buy Groceries and Christmas presents for you family on your bicycle, in your seperated bi-directional all abilities bike lane? No why would you. Just you and your gadgets in your ridiculous 450 sq. foot 'home'. So many opinions and woke lifestyle 'decisions'. No need for a yard or a quiet street or a family sedan. 'So pretty much' you exposed yourself, and your frustrations. Johnny Hates. Be safe 'Johnny'.
So does your watch use the square and compasses for hands there FW?
I would like to say to you, that your US of A talking points and commentaries of the REPUGNANTin party, is wholly inappropriate in Canada.
It would be nice if you grew up before you criticise thoughtful Canadians with valid opinions.
This is such a hilariously bad take. You can still have all those things you value and live in a neighbourhood that features good design...
and lol @ calling me woke, I don't think you even know what that means.
@@JohnnyStrides But they're all probably 'Isis Neighbourhoods near 'Cloverdale Prison'. Now do tell us what was wrong with that east of yonge, south of bloor downtown neighbourhood you were living in? Why did you move? You couldn't 'design' a crackhouse for scoats? Guess that's why you moved back up to a middle class neighbourhood, like the one you grew up in and betrayed. Liars got to lie. You've taken a woke 'stand' after all.
@@dennisrankin325 you think Mr. Shouting, Chirping typical bicycle nazi has valid opinions? Which ones?