Optoma UHD 35 & 38 Review - Ultra low input lag 4k gaming projectors TESTED. 4.2ms @ 240Hz!!
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Optoma raises the bar again with its latest gaming offering, the UHD 35 & 38. These replace the previous model UHD 30. We test the UHD 35 against the last gen UHD 42 to see how it compares in video and gaming performance.
The biggest advantage the new models offer is an astounding 4.ms of input lag when running in the 1080p 240Hz mode, much faster than the previous models (still very fast) 16.7ms.
Could these new models be the new best gaming projectors for 2021? Watch the video to see how they compare.
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Wow projectors have come a long way in just 3 years. I bought a Optama UHD 50 for $1400 after tax. 2,200 lumens, 60hz, and lag is around the 20ms I believe. Can’t wait to upgrade but most likely wait for the price to drop more.
They definitely have come along way! What upgrade would you be looking to get? -GH.
I like how they take time to inform people on the context of some specs and the diminishing returns that may or may not be present. Like the "unless you're an E-sports professional, it shouldn't make a difference," comment.
Wow, what a fantastic review 👏👏 Thank you so much for making my decision easy 😀
Glad it was helpful! -GH.
Thanks for the extremely thorough review.
Glad it was helpful! -GH
we just bought one to replace our 10 year old benq w6000.
wow what a machine. so bright and colourful. amazing. highly recomended
I'm thinking about getting it. Is the projector huge about the same size as the original Xbox?
Big Differenece between UHD30 & UHD35...4,20ms input lag OMG!!!
Im very impressed what todays Projectors can do. Especially Projectors under $1000 (1000€).
For about 3 Years ago, you couldn't find a proper one under $2000...
Thank you for the great review! I was planning to sell my uhd42 and get these newer models for input lag and contrast, but as you mentioned, it’s not worth the upgrade👍🏻
Hi I've never bought a projector before but I want to get one because my eyes just can't take looking at lcd screens. What is the best projector I can get for gaming etc that isn't gonna cost me a fortune. What would you go for right now if you had a chance?
After getting rid of my Samsung 4k TV I'm excited to start looking into my first projector, thanks for the in-depth review :)
No problem!
Hi ,great review ,just purchased the Optoma uhd 38 from you earlier in the week 😁 ,must say your service is excellent and the choice of payment options was really good ,we upgraded from the Benq w1070 ,it just dose'nt seem to pop as much as i thought it would only used for 4k dvds and streaming ,we have a very bright room but usually don't watch until dark, maybe i need to look at the setting running a panasonic 820 , 4k firestick through a Denon 2600 ,great review bought the 38 based on this review ,liked and subscribed great content on the channel 😉
Great review. Did just miss a key point I think, at least I did not hear it, that when in GAMING mode, the HV keystone and other geometry adjustments are turned off, so you need to mount the thing square on. It is a bit disappointing but also understandable - the picture manipulation will introduce lag. These functions will also eat into the resolution so while it's a pain, mounting straight on (as I plan to) and doing without, will give me better IQ and access to the fast gaming modes.
We did reference the keystone but not with regards to the Gaming mode. You are correct though, in the gaming mode they will not work so its essential to have it mounted square.
@@ScanComputers yes you referenced the keystone but missed the key point. It's pretty significant for gamers who would want to know that they cannot use any geometric adjustments with gaming mode enabled is all.
true although also with game mode off and using a bit keystone/4 cornering I did not have much lag/input lag. It is such a great beamer.
Been waiting for this! I have tge UHD 42 and was wondering if it was worth getting the new model. For me I'm going to stick with the 42 for now but if I was buying one new then I would go for the uhd 38 as I dont need the setup stuff and the extra brightness and 2x hdmi 2.0 ports would be worth it. Great and fair review Scan! These videos should get more views for sure!
Thanks :)
Then try play a 4K picture in Enhanced Gaming Mode. You will see that the UHD30 and UHD42 cannot play back the picture in 4K but reduce it to 1080p. This is a problem with the Texas instruments chip from last year and is not mentioned by Optoma.
Believe me, I had many conversations with Optoma until they finally recognised and confirmed the problem.
@@rafaelk8535 hi, bro. what about uhd35, in enhanced gaming mode. 4k or 1080 like on uhd30?
IT is 4k. They fixed the Problem with the New projectors.
Really amazing projector! I own this.
Is the 42 or the 35 now better? It looks like the high brightness in the 35 makes the details downgrade
Thank you very much for the detailed review. Would like to see the UHD 35 side by side with the UDH38 to see the difference in brightness.
Unfortunately we couldnt get hold of both at the same time for testing. 400Lumens extra should be noticeable, mainly in a more brightly lit environment, but less so in a darker one.
how long can the lamp lasts for uhd 35?
Do this lamp replacement diy using special tool?
Thank you For reviewing, I am Dealer. The Optoma UHD35+ is a high-performance projector that is designed to deliver bright, vivid images with excellent color accuracy and contrast. It features a native resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels, which is four times the resolution of Full HD, and it is capable of displaying HDR content with a wide color gamut and deep blacks. The UHD35+ uses a high-quality DLP chip and a bright lamp to deliver up to 3,600 lumens of brightness, which makes it suitable for use in a wide range of lighting conditions. It also features a range of advanced features and connectivity options, including HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, and USB power, making it a versatile and capable choice for a wide range of applications. Overall, the Optoma UHD35+ is a high-quality projector that delivers excellent performance and versatility, and it is definitely worth considering if you are in the market for a high-quality projector.
Brilliant 👏, you made my decision easy.
If it would be with a 1.3x zoom I'd buy it immediately, in my room I have only 2,5m (8,2 feet) distance from the screen, so I would have an image with only 72 inch. I 'm going to buy the Benq TH685i with 1.3x zoom, so I can get an image with 100 inch, unfortunately it isn't 4k but only FHD.
What's the input lag in 4k? How does it compare to the benq t750sti
16ms in 4K 60hz, 4ms in 1080p 244hz
I need to see some of these in person..
Thanks for the review. In general, the details are better in UHD 42 and the sky is completely white in UHD 35, but there are more details in UHD 42 and the separation of the sky from clouds and color is better in UHD 42.
Another great review, like that of the UHD42!
Glad you like it! -GH.
Went for the OPTOMA UHD 35.
How is it better than ViewSonic PX 701 4k?
please help: I experienced two negative things with the beamer. First of With certain games I have static red snow on screen and there is a slight yellowish tint on the far right side of the screen. If I zoom in then it is out of sight, but still there if I zoom back. Could this be the long hdmi cable? Or is it a faulty beamer? Thanks for any help!
Edit; I noticed that using a hdmi cable longer than 20 feet is a horrible choice. using a short hdmi cable solved much.
the yellowish tint is still there though. Someone at optoma said that the lens unit is not set properly. Is that fixable ?
I have optima x371 not full screen only by dynimc when i nearlly smartboard its small, when i far way its big full screen plz fix??
Hey scan, can you donate your 42 that you used in this video. I want your autograph on it
Brilliant review. Id love to see BenQ and Epson projectors get a similar range review.
Thanks so much great help ,, I am really much interested in buying optoma ,, little confused between ,, laser one and uhd35+
Gaming is not my first priority,, only want to see movies ,, but some time games too ,, will uhd+ will b a good.
As laser one is a bit expensive
My current optoma projector is 15 years old model ,,it’s Optoma MovieTime DV10 Projector
I've been looking around at reviews for the UHD38, and no one ever says what screen they are using, and it can make a pretty big difference. White or grey? What gain does it have, etc.
having a high quality projector screen can highly impact the quality while a cheap one not so much.
you can try looking at elite screens if you want good ones
@@yeyoureright4851 its not a matter of if I have a good screen, it's a matter of these reviews. Screens do make a big difference, so they should have the information posted
VERY GOOD REVIEW THANK YOU
Glad you liked it -GH.
@@ScanComputers quick question if you buy a projector that discontinued in my example it would be optuma how long could i keep get replacement stuff for it do you think ROUGH GUESS. and does part be more expensive because the the projector is discontinued
@@micaiahjohnson620 The main part that would need replacing over time would be the bulb, these are fairly generic and are widely available even for older models going back 10 years+. Regards other parts like circuit boards etc we dont know. We would expect 6-10 years availability, at which point it would likely be more economical to but a new unit than to get the old one repaired. - AS
Thank you for the response very helpful
Does anyone have experience with the best by setting the colors on the UHD38 projector, or similar on the PS5? I have it perfect for movies, there are a lot of settings for games and I am not able to adjust it 😞
anyone know if you can Change the lamp in UHD35STx , is it the same lamp as UHD35? 0 info anywhere , no lamp for sale anywhere. anyone know others that do 300 inch at 10 feet?
is it possible to compare the benq tk700sti against this? benq is shorter throw, just wondering if the image quality color/black/saturation is really obvious or not difference? the contrast ratio is quite significant difference on manufacture specs
Hi, We will certainly look into this :) -GH.
how does this compare to the Viewsonic PX701 4K?
Between this or the ViewSonic PX 701 4k ?
What 3D glasses do you need to work with the Optoma uhd 38 projector? Do you need a emitter?
Optoma unfortunately no longer make their own glasses, an emitter however should not be required. -GH
Thanks for the information👍
We are in the middle of an energy crisis how many watts does it consume?
On the UHD38, can you use keystone with enhanced gaming mode enabled?
This is a critical question for both otherwise it's useless
This suggests maybe it does work on the UHD35, have asked to confirm but surely it does....
ruclips.net/video/EthkPbZjYHU/видео.html
Manual says no, so cancelled my order. Seems no lens shift or keystone so meh... You out it at screen height or nothing if you want gaming mode
@@bovineox1111 thank you! I was watching this vid because I was trying to get this question answered!
@@DrEdwardJames it's not all bad. Because the projector projects bottom up and when ceiling mounted that means top down, if you drop the project 60cm or so the height up the wall is not so bad (though have yet to set it up, so this is in theory). So if you mount it straight onto the wall you won't need the keystone adjustments, which, from my research since, reduce the image quality quite a bit!
Please tell me which dmd chip it uses and if possible send me the link OPTOMA UHD 38
are you showing images in comparison uhd 42 and uhd 35, when the title is about Optoma UHD 35 & 38 ?! why not showing between UHD 35 & 38 ?
The video reviews both the UHD 35 & 38. While we do also test the UHD 35 against the last gen UHD 42 in the studio to see how this compares in video and gaming performance. -GH.
Why are you testing input lag without showing us the the input? (Mouse click or controller press to fire your gun)
Does it have frame interpolation settings?
Nice!
Lol I couldn’t see any input lag at all when they said the gun flash on the monitor is before the projector
the contrast in the picture and the sharpness are better with the uhd 42, as I can see, this can still be adjusted with the uhd 35
There was no difference in sharpness between the two models so that must be something from filming them. Contrast overall on the 35 was better due to the brighter whites and light colours, but there was some loss of colour strength at default settings. Overall the 35 offered a better all round ability if you changed the settings but it was quite close.
HELP I just bought a very expensive UHD 38 and the image looks all washed out, and I can't change the saturation levels! I've tried all sorts of cables and settings for days now, what am I missing???
If you purchased from Scan we would advise contacting our technical team direct they should be able to provide you with some quick tests you can do along with helping you further to get to the root of the issue. - www.scan.co.uk/help/orders/returns/returning-an-item -GH
Does this use active or passive 3d glasses. Thinking of buying this.
All optoma projectors use Active 3D glasses. in fact pretty much ALL home projectors are active. It was only TVs that had options for passive. Cinema projectors actually project 2 separate images through separate lenses to allow passive glasses to work and thats very costly to do.
Hi. Can I play games in 3d mode with this projector?
These are full 3D compatible. -GH.
@@ScanComputers Thanks for the answer
Can you tell me anything about the uhd35+ version ? It is avalable to me in New Zealand and is supposed to be 4000 lumens and 1.2000,000 contrast. Thanks
Hi, Thats correct the UHD35+ is 4,000 lumens & 1,200,000:1 Contrast. - www.optoma.com/au/product/uhd35plus/# -GH.
@@ScanComputers Would the 35+ be better the the 38 then ?
@@ningcheng9776 It looks like the 38 is not available in your market, so looks like they have done the 35+ as a single model(it doesnt exist here in UK). We would suspect that it will be very similar to the 38. There is literally only the brightness between the UHD 35 and 38 in the UK anyway. We guess due to the fact you get some sunshine that there is no point having the dimmer model! :)
UHD35 is available from PB Tech Auckland now
@@ningcheng9776 funny thing is here in the netherlands editors praise the 35 more than the 38.
Would the UHD35 be super difficult to ceiling mount because it has no lens shift at all?
We would advise that this shouldn't be an issue as long as the projector mount allows a little adjustment horizontally and vertically. -GH.
Can the UHD35/38 do 1440p @ 120hz? Thanks
no unfortunately not. Its not possible due to how the chip works. 1080p 240Hz and 4k 60Hz. You can set 1440p 60Hz but thats it
@@ScanComputers Will 1080p 120hz work with PS5 with UHD38 ?
Is it worth to upgrade my tk800m to optima uhd38?
If you already own the TK800M then its probably not worth the upgrade unless you would really benefit from the extra brightness and the gaming mode. If these are not required then probably best to leave it until a further generation
I’m using the optical out on my UHD38, yet when I disable the internal speakers, it also disables the audio from the optical out. What am I doing wrong?
We are unsure, we would recommend checking this with Optima. -GH.
Maybe just turn the volume down to zero on the internal speakers? Optical should still work
Is it better than benq tk800m?
Looking for an answer to this as well! Anyone? Even compared to the TK810 or the W1720 (even if it has lower lumens, the colors seemed promising)
We havent tested the TK800M ourselves so cant offer a comparison. The optoma certainly offers more brightness and the gaming mode so if either of these are important then the Optoma should be better. It also (we think, you may have to check) uses the older 0.47 Ti chip which could suffer from the same slow mode changes which are massively improved on the newer Optoma.
Is there a black border around the projected image?
Yes there is still a border around the image. its about the same size as the previous generation - AS
Will the uhd35 lamp work for the uhd38 cus I can't seem to find a replacement lamp for the uhd38?
To our knowledge they use the same bulb yes. Extra brightness is achieved through the colour wheel not the bulb in this case.
@@ScanComputers thanks
Your welcome :) -GH.
Still not good enough for me to bother. I want 4K, not 1080p.
I don't need 240hz. I want 120Hz at 4K at 10ms or less and then I am happy.
It needs to be native 4K, HDR with VRR and aforementioned 120Hz at 10ms or less input lag.
Also bright enough and wide enough color gamut and black level.
Is it asking a lot? Perhaps but this needs to beat TVs that can do all of that with a stronger picture. So just larger size isn't enough. Furthermore at those very large screen sizes even native 4K is hitting a wall.
Is that usable with windows opened during day, please?
This will depend on a number of factors. If the screen is in direct sunlight then you will have a washed out image. If its in a darker area that isnt in direct sunlight and your image size is less than 120 inches then it will likely be quite watchable.
Are they better than the 50x aside from the contrast ratio?
Yes they are better in some ways but not all. The UHD 50X is the same model as the UHD 42 (US and UK markets have different model numbers but are the same.) so what we said stands for that. Essentially much faster menus without the long wait, Gaming mode now works in 4K without reducing resolution and overall input lag times are down. However 35 and 38 lack the 1.3x zoom and vertical adjustment that the 50X has. they also have a longer throw.
@@ScanComputers I didn’t know that the 50x reduced the resolution??
@@GAPOWERade its well documented online, but you can see that the resolution is lower when you turn on gaming mode in 4K. Unless it was fixed in a firmware update for that model. If its not then you are better to leave gaming mode off when in 4k mode. Input lag is about 25ms without so its still very good for general gaming.
Optoma UHD35 or Viewsonic PX701-4k?
Hi, We havent been able to test the Viewsonic ourselves so we don't have a comparison. However we are sure you would be very happy with the Optoma :) -GH.
Why only 1.1x Zoom?!? Why!? It would be perfect with a 1.3X zoom!
Is this wireless?
No its not wireless. You would need additional equipment to make it possible :)
9:56 What do you mean there is no difference? There was clearly a 8-16ms difference in the video you just showed. (assuming that each frame on youtube is 1 480hz frame)
It was super clear and noticeable.
it really isn't that far behind the laptop at all, infact they looked almost identical even when played at 1/4 speed
Why they state inputlag at 1080P? If it support 4K it's probably the resolution people gonna play in.
Input lag at 1080p 240Hz is 4.2ms. At 4k 60Hz its 16ms. With this projector in gaming mode its mainly limited to the frame rate :)
Cool
This projector gets the job done pretty well. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxS9P8zTOcmQg-hH0QeUi3dspOLyYgQ6dH Bear in mind it's a mini projector but all things considered the picture quality is pretty good. The attached photo is of the projector projecting onto my white closet doors. I still have not messed with the settings but I can't wait for our first family movie night on a larger scale. If you have issues with volume not working with your firestick, go into volume settings and you will find your solution there.
How loud is this projector for an ordinary bedroom?
You will find, this isn't noisy at all :) -GH
35 is bright, but the contrast..
what about the noise levels?
I have the 38 and fan sound is OK but the sound of the color wheel is kind of annoying, while you have music or regular sound from the speakers is OK but if the room is quiet the sound is annoying
@@AMERICOBECKS thanks for the reply.
@@AMERICOBECKS What are your thoughts on the 38?
@@ScanComputers to be honest picture quality is great I even got a benq ht3550 to compare and the optoma is just so much sharp that is why I keep it black level is very decent for 4000 lumes and thanks to that brightness it really looks like a giant TV I have a 120 screen, the only thing I don't like is as I mentioned the noise is the room is quiet you will hear the color wheel and you will need space got mine 15 feet away for a 120 inch screen
@@AMERICOBECKS yes we thought it was worth mentioning the throw ratio ourselves as it is a little further than many other models. Our 35 was very quiet in the studio. might be worth a call to Optoma to make sure the colour wheel is balanced as even a slight unbalance can create extra vibration noise.
42 is better, 1.3x makes big difference
depends on the space you have. But I understand your point.
who would want having just full HD on 100" or even anything above 32" since even 27" in Full HD is close to the maximum before you notice each pixel. This "gaming" option does not make any sense
i rarely use gaming mode for games, it is not needed for the casual gamer.
Between these Optoma UHD 35 or 38 and the BenQ W1720 or BenQ TK800M / TK810 which would you recommend for better black levels, colors and movie viewing? I will be using it in a living room (non-dedicated viewing space) on a white wall and there is a bit of ambient light but blackout curtains to cut the light. Will be using it mostly for movies/series and some gaming on a Nintendo Switch, mostly at night.
I was almost going for the BenQ but having owned an Optoma (HD20) in the past and literally never having a problem with it, I'm still looking at options from Optoma
Is there any other projector you recommend in the below 1300 Euros category? (classic/long throw only)
Hi, We havent tested the BENQ models ourselves so cant offer a comparison. However it sounds like the OPTOMA is the right model for you based on what you have said. The high brightness will really help in your room to get the colours across. Usually in rooms with moderate light control and lighter walls/ white ceilings it is the blacks that suffer the most due to light refracting around the room so you are better off with more brightness than better blacks. It may also be worth considering making the wall grey rather than white to help with this.
I don't know. 240hz without VRR is missing an important part.
Its definitely something we would love to see in future for sure. The current Texas Instruments chip isnt capable so it could be a few generations before we see it. However turning on V-Sync or Fast sync (Nvidia) does fix the issue and when you are at 240Hz the increased lag from those options is imperceptible. So there are options toi get a great experience.
The title is UHD 35&38!!! There is nothing about UHD 38???
They are the same, the 38 just has very slightly higher brightness
I just found a dead pixel on mine 🤨
Hi, We are sorry to hear this. If this was purchased from ourselves please contact our returns team directly, our team should be able to assist you further and help in getting this resolved. - www.scan.co.uk/help/orders/returns/returning-an-item -GH
@@ScanComputers Sorry to make it clear it's not from you. Didn't mean it that way. Had an optoma 25hd for year no problem, just this new 1 I got a blown out pixel.
😁😁😁👍👍👍
To be honest movie you shows looks far much better on UHD42 on this new models you loosing lots of details, so many thx for a bit more input lag wich change absolutely nothing
Unfortunately filming these two side by side is very challenging, as the camera can only adjust is settings to match one of them at a time, or like we have done with a compromise. This mean that the extra brightness of the new model can look like a loss of detail. For our next projector review we are going to see how we can make this clearer with some other shots
Terrible buy. I regret it. Broke the 2nd year. Warranty only covers 1 year. Don't buy!
UHD42 looks better than UHD35
i hope for 2x the price
@@ReDHaWko haha
I also think so.
so not real 4k again, what is it with these reviews.
These projectors are in fact approved true 4K UHD resolution. -GH.
;-) Gaming projector with projection ratio 1.5~1.66, what a useless projector. That is most important factor and it´s the worst factor ever. You have to project from one room to another to get big picture. I have W1080T with 0.7, having 5m screen from 3m - that´s projector. I have always fun seeing showing projectors on 2m screens - what a waste of money. That´s world of TVs, not projectors! Most poeple live in small flats, wake up, Optoma, wake up!
What are you talking about? it is fine for around 15 feet and if you don't have 15 feet and live in a small flat maybe don't buy a 4K projector because even a 65 inch TV from such a close distance would satisfy the urge for a big screen, really don't think they need to wake up with how well this has sold and how well its been reviewed online so far.
@@JaxDagger I dont know how your feet is long ( fun :-), but 3m diagonal from 4,5 m sitting is not much cinema. The sence od cinema and big screen is to fullfill your field of view, then you need big resolution. Have you ever had picture from top to button of your wall? Please, try it. If you ever try 3D the size is important. Sitting 4,5m you shoud have 4.5m screen, than you see the 1080p is not enough and 1440p would be better. 4K why not, but having this projector makes screen smaller because 1:1.5, not 1:1.2, not fair 1:1, and where is great short throw 1:0.8. So the optic saying only for people with big house. But to these with smaller rooms that can effort this projektor, for them is useless. And having cinema you should always try to have big distance, It is good for eyes, means not sit closer.
This is a good observation, If it would be with a 1.3x zoom I'd buy it immediately, in my room I have only 2,5m (8,2 feet) distance from the screen, so I would have an image with only 72 inch. I 'm going to buy the Benq TH685i with 1.3x zoom, so I can get an image with 100 inch, unfortunately it isn't 4k but only FHD.