6:00 Hydra Broodmaster can't make three 2/2s! (X)(X) explained: Choose a value for X, then pay that value twice. Hydra Broodmaster: I choose to get five 5/5 tokens, that will cost me (5)(5)(G).
I have a turn 4 win condition hydra deck (doesn't seem impressive now because of this video, but I made the concept myself so i'm proud of it). Though, it is red/green
Definitely incorporate some protection for your creature kill so it doesn't die to removal at least as sideboard options against bad match ups that run a lot of removal. Examples: Vines of Vastwood ($1 each) & Blossoming Defense (50 cents each). Also I'd suggest replacing the Naturalizes in the sideboard with Nature's Claim (they're like 25 cents a piece so still budget and your ginormous creature will scoff at the tiny amount of life gain you gave them). An upgrade to this deck would be Walking Ballista so you don't have to rely on combat to kill your opponent (currently around $10 each, but will likely fall some when the new Ravnica set hits because it rotates out of the standard format). However, you could run Goblin Cannon instead of Walking Ballista as a non-combat method of spending infinite green mana to kill your opponent. All it requires is for you to hold priority after you activate it and then pay to activate it again, then repeat that process to put as many activations as you want onto the stack then as they resolve it gets sacrificed and then rest of the triggers don't care if it isn't there to be sacrificed.
5:52 no. 3 3/3 will enter the battlefiel than 6:05 no. The effekt of colonian hydra do not effekt the tokens becorse they does not have got any +1/+1 counters on it. in stead they are x/x. So they doesn‘t get x +x/+x counters
Hmm. The interaction between Kalonian Hydra and Hydra Broodmaster doesn't quite work like that. Kalonina doubles the counters, and while that does work on the broodmaster itself, the tokens it creates don't have any counters on them. They are X/X not 0/0 with X +1/+1 counters.
Very cool deck tech. the way I usually explain the XX(G) is: "You select what your x is first, let's say you select x=2. Your cost then becomes (2)(2)(G) (converted 5) and you gain 2 counters."
6 mana, but the effect was X X (G) mana, so if you have 6 (G) you pay 3 / 2 / (G) = 6 mana . He was right. What you mean is him paying 7 mana to pay 3 / 3 / (G) = 7 mana
He is correct, you pay the same number for each X. So if X is 4, you pay (4)(4)(G) and then get 4 4/4 Hydras. You cannot pay diff mana costs for each X.
And just so we are clear he pays the green mana needed to play n each x gets paid separately so he pays 3 mana into each x plus the green needed for the spell as well. Resulting in 3 tokens that are 3/3 each if I'm not mistaken.
In 2021, this deck is not very budget friendly. Utopia sprawl is around 11 USD each, and a play set will run you around 44 bucks. The other massive price is Kalonian Hydra almost twenty usd each. A play set is close to 76 bucks. Some substitutes for these cards that can tide you over until you can get your hands on them are fertile grounds. For one colourless and a green, “enchant land, whenever enchanted land is tapped for mana, it’s controller adds and additional one mana of any colour” so basically it does what we need to get infinite mana but it’s a 2 mana card. You can’t really substitute anything for Kalonian Hydra, my recommendation would be just throw a play set of Verdurous Gearhulks in there until you get the Kalonian hydra. Hope this helps, this deck is sick and I hope you have fun!
I love this deck! I actually bought everything to make this deck as soon as I watched this! That was when you first made this video years ago. Since then I have modified this deck into 3 different versions and they are by far my top favorite decks to play! Green has sooo much more than raw power…. It also has the power of misdirection! Thank you for your content!!!!
I know I know this is a budget deck but yeah, people should try this with a bunch of cantrips and turn it into a real combo deck. I wonder if Zhur-Taa Druid and orochi would work in this shell. Okay let's feed the wolves even more... fetchlands and forest/shocklands would give you access to thoughtsieze and/or red/blue spells. Blossoming defense protects your pieces. If you're willing to fight and your deck goes infinite mana you could benefit from the miracle spell Bonfire. First planeswalkers coming to my mind are Simic x Nissa, First Garruk and Saheeli. I the x hydra with protection from blue and haste must be the best hydra, getting rid of the rest would be the primary step.
Karametras acolyte is a great card I haven’t heard of before. I have a green devotion deck that’s all about adding an obscene amount of mana to your mana pool and spending it on card effects and dumping huge spells onto the battlefield. I normally use Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx to add green mana equal to my devotion but with this card too, that’s gonna get insane
Hahaha I already have that combination in my hydra deck😂😂 never knew it could do that 😂 I can also pop put thousands of tokens, make them all have thousands of attack and defence. Make them all hexproof with trample. Gain thousands of life. And so one. It's pretty beast and the only way to really stop it is with flyers if you can get enough to kill me before everything is outrageous, which usually I do by turn 5. Or board wipe. But that works best if its exile because of a 2 drop instant that gives them all indestructible. Usually I win by turn 7 to 10. But now that I know that combo, I might be able to make that a tad bit quicker
My coworkers and I used to play a ton during the Innistrad Block. 2 cards I think might be cool techs for this deck from around then are Predator Ooze and Increasing Savagery. In case you haven't heard of them Predator Ooze is a 1/1 for 3 Forest and it's Indestructible with "It gets a +1/+1 counter each time it attacks" and "if target creature is destroyed by Predator Ooze put a +1/+1 counter on Predator Ooze." And Increasing Savagery is a 2 Forests and 2 sorcery and it has; put 5 +1/+1 counters on target creature. Flashback 5 and 2 Forests. If cast from the graveyard put 10 +1/+1 counters on creature instead.
I love Hydra decks! That looks absolutely nasty. I tell my roommates about the deck techs and get so many eye rolls lol. Ever thought about doing a hydra tribal commander deck? Got the idea when I saw Polukranos but you could use Progenitus as the commander so you have more color variety. Anyway, sweet deck. On another note, I managed to pull a Nicol Bolas, the Ravager yesterday. Bought my girlfriend and myself a blister pack each on a whim and I pulled him and was freaking out on the way home lol. PLA
I know I'm just being pedantic. But, attached cards (such as auras and equipment) do not tap when their attached permanent taps. Copperhoof Vorrac and Flowstone Embrace are two good examples that show why your auras & equipment do not tap since they themselves can have or gain tap abilities. (Look at Clock of Omens) This is why I always put my enchantments behind the card they're enchanting. Makes it easier to manipulate the card that's actually tapping.
Came here for this. Also, is corner case relevant, as some things only destroy/exile other permanents that are tapped. (There are no spells, however, that destroy a tapped enchantment that I could discover.)
The guy has a soothing radio animator voice, he explains very well the strategy of the deck, going along all the card and checking them with us, I loved the strategy involved; bravo!
ok this just made that red/green hydra i made look ridiculously slow, comparatively. This is insane! that blue card was in the kamigawa block if i'm not mistaken. I'm not too familiar with that set. I mostly just know about the spirits and pretty sure the ninjas are from there too. Infinite mana turn 2 without using artifacts is impressive. Props to the guy who came up with that.
Its also just wrong lol, there are effects that target islands and that are effected by the amount of islands you have, as well as blue lands that produce blue mana that aren't islands, and other cards which can produce blue mana that aren't even lands at all.
@@gogogo123454321 If you don't have the brain capacity to understand what he means by "Forests and islands", then you probably don't have a high enough brain capacity to play magic.
I just got done building a less budget friendly version of this... Im using nylea, goddess of the hunt and walking balista as my win conditions, might actually add 1 mistcutter main and probably another 1 or 2 sideboard. Love the budget jenk-tascticness you've got going on here, this is was MTG is really about.
Made a few changes to the deck, i think this might be a little better and offer's a little more protection. 18 forest 4 Wooded Foothills 4 llanowar elves 4 arbor elf 4 utopia sprawl 2 courser of kruphix 3 karametra's acolyte 2 scourge of skola vale 4 kalonian hydra 2 hydra broodmaster 4 mistcutter hydra 2 genesis hydra 3 rancor 4 freed from the real 2 Apostle's Blessing 2 Blossoming Defense
He's incorrect on the hydra broodmaster for a few reasons. The one I dont see people mentioning is that those tokens don't spawn with +1+1 counters, so it doesn't combo with the other card. They simply spawn as x,x's...
This looks like fun in a five way sword and shield game. Obviously one guy is totally screwed when you pulled it off, but thinking about everyone scrambling to get rid of it is hilarious.
I'm glad I found your channel you are the first channel I've watched really ever because I never found a reason before to go on RUclips. I was able to get two of your budget decks for reasonable price not too much more than u did but just put this one in my cart at SCG and came out to 88.88 which Is a shame because I dont want to spend that much right now but it's an amazing deck. You should make a new budget deck video
Can also use any blue spell that makes them draw and draw out deck. Since it's infinite mana. Stroke of genius etc. Just some alternate kill to a creature in case.
the deck is fairly decent even without a 100%combo. i like that. i like the possibility of those combos but i hate it when the deck cant win without it. good job on this
at 11:03 i believe wed only have 2 cuz we used the 4 so wed start all over. im a bit confused lol unless hes counting the one already tapped on the field.
I actually have a RUG version of this deck that is based around hydras. But it is quite expensive but it wins alot of the time by turn 4. Blue for control/ midrange matchups. And sideboard and main both run 2 flings for consistency purposes. Its only expensive because of the mana base which most players who plah hardcore have this so they sre not limited to certain decks such as myself. As i love to play different decks. I traded a playset of lilis to get all 40 shocklands and 2 playsets of fetches value of 700 at the time lili was worth 600 for a set. The deck also runs metamorphosis for mana fixing and also thins my deck to get threats.
Vastwood Hydra. Sacrifice distribute counters there were on it to creatures you control. A $1-1.20 card that would go well with the Hydra that sacs creatures and gains counters equal to it's toughness.
Imagine this: the deck you are up against is black/White and got the first turn. Oppenent got plains and swamp untapped. So, when you are totally certain to just shake hands, the opponent throws down Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual and False Cure! BAM! 😂 I also found it ironic that the first card in your sideboard, Fog, could also protect against this. And then a lot of black cheap removal could end it. However, against most decks it would be a win of course! 😁 Awesome combo though, endless possibilities with endless green mana. You could also just go for Stream of life and get endless life. For drawn out games, you can choose other colors for the lands you enchant. I would include fireballs and such spells instead of the other fancy hydras, would be a lot cheaper to buy I think. It all depends on what you're up against.
Never realized kalonian hydra doubles the counters on EACH creature, i always played it as he doubled his own counters. Good to know, and thanks for the interesting deck. The odds of getting the combo are quite slim with the reliance on utopia sprawl but when it does work it is pretty amazing, even if you get it late game!
The enchantments don't tap when what they are attached to tap. Its rarely important but every once and awhile you'll run into a situation where its important to know.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, I would love to know. However, I think that “Freed from the Real” would not be able to untap the land, due to the wording of the card. It said untap enchanted creature. I would love to know what is everyone’s thoughts!
10:24 is wrong it would be 3 mana, not 4 because one is already tapped. This would take another turn to complete. Also, it would take another turn after that one because when you create a new blue mana, it is tapped because you use it to make another one. Therefore on turn 3 you will only have 3 or 4 mana max, but the turn after that is infinite.
Polkranos is my favorite hydra card as far as art goes and the ability is pretty sweet, forever loving golgari synergies whether you're running life gain, infect, fungus hydra or elf tribal, +1 counters, -1 counters and the list goes on and on
for those with a little more money, 4 walking ballista, 4 endless one (a cheap card), we can keep the haste hydra, you probably want hangarback walker, you could splash red for something like banefire as well, if you really wanna get crazy you could run draw spells with X like pull from tomorrow in combination with labratory maniac
Edit: Missed the Haste. Walking Ballista could be used as well as a turn 2 kill, but it is more expensive. Also, add Duskwatcher Recruiter to pull any number of creatures from your library to your hand (ie your walking Ballista.) To be honest, you can do infinite green mana with Vizier of Remedies and Devoted Druid. Same concept, only 2 cards needed for infinite with no Forest requirement. A lot more expensive since it is better.
Urban utopia helps too. You can pay one more mana (one forest and on colorless) you got to draw a card and enchanted land has “add one mana of any color”
I’m loving this deck! Especially that I’m pretty sure the infinite mana combo works in pauper. If I have a deck idea for a baller on a budget deck how should I send it to ya?
If you want to make it a little cheaper, throw out a few of the expensive hydras and put in 4 stream of life. 1 green X = gain X life. So if you have infinite mana, but no hydra, having infinite life does put you at an advantage of staying alive :)
I really love your deck techs Joey^^ i build most of them. Me and my friends play like kitchen table magic and share our decks while playing so we not rock hard on what is legal in modern or not as long as it's fair. I made this deck but i added 2 primordial hydra in the deck and its a lot of fun to play. Keep up the good content. You are by far my favorit youtuber with mtg and u inspired so many of my decks through deck techs both in paper and on arena. /Henrik
this is an infinite mana combo (and there are ones that run less cards to pull it) so basically you can get this "insta win" with any creature/spell tha t can deal damage to your enemy
hi man i build this deck and changed a a couple of things instand of naturalize i added the new hydra from throne of eldraine, hydro krasis cuz i had t for an other deck swiftfoot boots and heroic intervention. wish you and your family best of luck in this crazy period, march 2020, in case you reed comments on old videos .
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how Kalonian Hydra can help us make more token from Broodmaster. You would have to have it become monstruous During the declare attacker phase, which I'm pretty sure you can't do
What about a turn 3 black card that destroys the hydra?? or a turn 1 shock to kill your elf? there is also a white spell that makes the hydra unable to attack and defend. This combo is quiet easily counter-able
1. Common mistake, don't call the mana by their basic land type. Forests do not make "Forest Mana", they make Green Mana. That's why the Sprawl says 'pick a color'. 2. The combo is good if you get it T2, but you do need perfect card draw. The Rancor is only really necessary if they have a non-blue blocker. And past T3 a lot of things can go wrong. 3. If you really want to make the combo your main goal I wouldn't bother with the other Hydras. I'd get some removal, since you're playing blue anyways maybe add some bounce and counters and islands. Does seem like a lot of fun to pull off tho. :P
Really you need to increase the combo elements for greater consistency. You need 15 turn one green sources, so the rest can be islands which allows you to add wild growths then add a low cost creature that allows you to untap any land (hopefully one exists for 2 mana). I'm not sure there is an additional way to replicate the untap feature of the blue enchantment cheaply. Frantic search can help with digging for the combo and is cheap. These additions increase the chance of a combo victory but on turn 3 or later.
Honestly, I prefer Voyaging Satyr over some of the ramp options here. It's basically extra copies of Arbor Elf for going infinite. Of course, I ran the really expensive Blue Sun Zenith version of this deck, so it needed to go infinite.
If I'm reading Utopia sprawl correctly, it doesn't say that it produces 2 Mana. One from the forest and one from Utopia sprawl it just changes the color of the Mantis so you're actually only making one Mana by tapping it. Can someone explain this?
Bad Boy Gaming That won’t be a problem, funny part is I have most of these cards including the more expensive ones. I just checked and I only need to pay $5 for the rest of the singles I don’t have lol
How to Meme Alright thanks for the math, I still have a bunch of the cards. I am almost done with it. My LGS didn’t have all the copies of some of the cards
dang, this is like a really fun deck to play, I always enjoyed getting to see your different deck text you do a great job of making budget stuff that is still playable!
I miss when you would make these videos. This is what got me into magic to begin with. Still like what u do now just miss the baller in a budget deck techs haha
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This is the deck list, Enjoy!!!
20 Forest
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Arbor Elf
4 Utopia Sprawl
2 Courser of Kruphix
4 Caramentr’s Acolyte
2 Scourge of Skola Vale
4 Kalonian Hydra
2 Hydra Broodmaster
4 Mistcutter Hydra
2 Genesis Hydra
4 Rancor
4 Freed from the Real
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6:00 Hydra Broodmaster can't make three 2/2s!
(X)(X) explained: Choose a value for X, then pay that value twice.
Hydra Broodmaster: I choose to get five 5/5 tokens, that will cost me (5)(5)(G).
I had the same doubt regarding polukranos. Thank you
@@survivorkg4606 Yeah this is also just not how hydra broodmaster works at all. Kalonian Hydra does not "re-monstrous" broodmaster for more tokens
Please name this deck Hydra kids, Hydra wife because its rapping everybody turn 2
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Finally a hydra deck!!!! Hail hydra
Joe Leopard You're welcome! :)
@@moldytaters4190 thank you good sir!😀
you're the BOMB!
Hail Hydra!
I have a turn 4 win condition hydra deck (doesn't seem impressive now because of this video, but I made the concept myself so i'm proud of it). Though, it is red/green
This is defenitly my favorite content from you I like how you use real cards feels more aurhentic
looks like we got someone stuck in their own generation
I dont want to be that annoying guy to intrude and criticize the fact you spelled authentic but...
Thanks for sharing, Joey! I read the comments, and saw so many positive things about the deck. This just made my day. :)
Definitely incorporate some protection for your creature kill so it doesn't die to removal at least as sideboard options against bad match ups that run a lot of removal. Examples: Vines of Vastwood ($1 each) & Blossoming Defense (50 cents each). Also I'd suggest replacing the Naturalizes in the sideboard with Nature's Claim (they're like 25 cents a piece so still budget and your ginormous creature will scoff at the tiny amount of life gain you gave them). An upgrade to this deck would be Walking Ballista so you don't have to rely on combat to kill your opponent (currently around $10 each, but will likely fall some when the new Ravnica set hits because it rotates out of the standard format). However, you could run Goblin Cannon instead of Walking Ballista as a non-combat method of spending infinite green mana to kill your opponent. All it requires is for you to hold priority after you activate it and then pay to activate it again, then repeat that process to put as many activations as you want onto the stack then as they resolve it gets sacrificed and then rest of the triggers don't care if it isn't there to be sacrificed.
5:52 no.
3 3/3 will enter the battlefiel than
6:05 no.
The effekt of colonian hydra do not effekt the tokens becorse they does not have got any +1/+1 counters on it. in stead they are x/x. So they doesn‘t get x +x/+x counters
My friend plays a hydra deck hes going to be so mad when I correct him in our next game.
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Hmm. The interaction between Kalonian Hydra and Hydra Broodmaster doesn't quite work like that. Kalonina doubles the counters, and while that does work on the broodmaster itself, the tokens it creates don't have any counters on them. They are X/X not 0/0 with X +1/+1 counters.
my thoughts exactly, you'd need something like parallel lives or doubling season to clone the tokens
Very cool deck tech. the way I usually explain the XX(G) is: "You select what your x is first, let's say you select x=2. Your cost then becomes (2)(2)(G) (converted 5) and you gain 2 counters."
With Hydra broodmaster the example you gave with x x/x tokens, it would be 3 3/3 tokens, not 3 2/2 tokens 🙄
6 mana, but the effect was X X (G) mana, so if you have 6 (G) you pay 3 / 2 / (G) = 6 mana . He was right.
What you mean is him paying 7 mana to pay 3 / 3 / (G) = 7 mana
@@Horlianz X=3 in all instances of X, so in the mana cost 3,3,G and it makes 3 3/3 green hydras
He is correct, you pay the same number for each X. So if X is 4, you pay (4)(4)(G) and then get 4 4/4 Hydras. You cannot pay diff mana costs for each X.
And just so we are clear he pays the green mana needed to play n each x gets paid separately so he pays 3 mana into each x plus the green needed for the spell as well. Resulting in 3 tokens that are 3/3 each if I'm not mistaken.
@@grizzlybear3809 And those tokens were made with 7 total mana spent right?
In 2021, this deck is not very budget friendly. Utopia sprawl is around 11 USD each, and a play set will run you around 44 bucks. The other massive price is Kalonian Hydra almost twenty usd each. A play set is close to 76 bucks. Some substitutes for these cards that can tide you over until you can get your hands on them are fertile grounds. For one colourless and a green, “enchant land, whenever enchanted land is tapped for mana, it’s controller adds and additional one mana of any colour” so basically it does what we need to get infinite mana but it’s a 2 mana card.
You can’t really substitute anything for Kalonian Hydra, my recommendation would be just throw a play set of Verdurous Gearhulks in there until you get the Kalonian hydra. Hope this helps, this deck is sick and I hope you have fun!
But I mean axebane guardian with freed from the reel also works
I love this deck! I actually bought everything to make this deck as soon as I watched this! That was when you first made this video years ago. Since then I have modified this deck into 3 different versions and they are by far my top favorite decks to play! Green has sooo much more than raw power…. It also has the power of misdirection! Thank you for your content!!!!
My friends would not play me when I did this deck back in the day.
I know I know this is a budget deck but yeah, people should try this with a bunch of cantrips and turn it into a real combo deck.
I wonder if Zhur-Taa Druid and orochi would work in this shell.
Okay let's feed the wolves even more... fetchlands and forest/shocklands would give you access to thoughtsieze and/or red/blue spells.
Blossoming defense protects your pieces.
If you're willing to fight and your deck goes infinite mana you could benefit from the miracle spell Bonfire.
First planeswalkers coming to my mind are Simic x Nissa, First Garruk and Saheeli.
I the x hydra with protection from blue and haste must be the best hydra, getting rid of the rest would be the primary step.
Karametras acolyte is a great card I haven’t heard of before. I have a green devotion deck that’s all about adding an obscene amount of mana to your mana pool and spending it on card effects and dumping huge spells onto the battlefield. I normally use Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx to add green mana equal to my devotion but with this card too, that’s gonna get insane
I remember having an infinite mana freed from the reel deck. Might be time to update it. Hydras are awesome.
Oh that's sick. A hydra deck with a 2-turn win possibility is not something I ever could have imagined! Wow!
Nathan Schwartz :)
This is brilliant. The moment when I put it all together in my mind just amazing.
Lista completa
//Main
4 Arbor Elf
2 Courser of Kruphix
24 Forest
4 Freed from the Real
2 Genesis Hydra
2 Hydra Broodmaster
4 Kalonian Hydra
4 Karametra's Acolyte
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Mistcutter Hydra
4 Rancor
2 Scourge of Skola Vale
4 Utopia Sprawl
//Sideboard
4 Fog
2 Genesis Hydra
4 Naturalize
2 Polukranos, World Eater
2 Scourge of Skola Vale
Hahaha I already have that combination in my hydra deck😂😂 never knew it could do that 😂 I can also pop put thousands of tokens, make them all have thousands of attack and defence. Make them all hexproof with trample. Gain thousands of life. And so one. It's pretty beast and the only way to really stop it is with flyers if you can get enough to kill me before everything is outrageous, which usually I do by turn 5. Or board wipe. But that works best if its exile because of a 2 drop instant that gives them all indestructible. Usually I win by turn 7 to 10. But now that I know that combo, I might be able to make that a tad bit quicker
My coworkers and I used to play a ton during the Innistrad Block. 2 cards I think might be cool techs for this deck from around then are Predator Ooze and Increasing Savagery. In case you haven't heard of them Predator Ooze is a 1/1 for 3 Forest and it's Indestructible with "It gets a +1/+1 counter each time it attacks" and "if target creature is destroyed by Predator Ooze put a +1/+1 counter on Predator Ooze." And Increasing Savagery is a 2 Forests and 2 sorcery and it has; put 5 +1/+1 counters on target creature. Flashback 5 and 2 Forests. If cast from the graveyard put 10 +1/+1 counters on creature instead.
I love Hydra decks! That looks absolutely nasty. I tell my roommates about the deck techs and get so many eye rolls lol. Ever thought about doing a hydra tribal commander deck? Got the idea when I saw Polukranos but you could use Progenitus as the commander so you have more color variety. Anyway, sweet deck.
On another note, I managed to pull a Nicol Bolas, the Ravager yesterday. Bought my girlfriend and myself a blister pack each on a whim and I pulled him and was freaking out on the way home lol.
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I know I'm just being pedantic. But, attached cards (such as auras and equipment) do not tap when their attached permanent taps.
Copperhoof Vorrac and Flowstone Embrace are two good examples that show why your auras & equipment do not tap since they themselves can have or gain tap abilities. (Look at Clock of Omens)
This is why I always put my enchantments behind the card they're enchanting. Makes it easier to manipulate the card that's actually tapping.
I was going to mention this if no one else did
Came here for this. Also, is corner case relevant, as some things only destroy/exile other permanents that are tapped. (There are no spells, however, that destroy a tapped enchantment that I could discover.)
The guy has a soothing radio animator voice, he explains very well the strategy of the deck, going along all the card and checking them with us, I loved the strategy involved; bravo!
I love the baller on a budget! I built the pathway arrows, the turn 1 mill, and I'll be building this pretty soon!
ok this just made that red/green hydra i made look ridiculously slow, comparatively. This is insane! that blue card was in the kamigawa block if i'm not mistaken. I'm not too familiar with that set. I mostly just know about the spirits and pretty sure the ninjas are from there too. Infinite mana turn 2 without using artifacts is impressive. Props to the guy who came up with that.
don't say forests and islands when you have mana floating. it confuses the crap out of new people. say 2 green 2 blue
Its also just wrong lol, there are effects that target islands and that are effected by the amount of islands you have, as well as blue lands that produce blue mana that aren't islands, and other cards which can produce blue mana that aren't even lands at all.
Oh shut up, everyone knows what he means.
@@matthewbroyles2291 nope
@@gogogo123454321 If you don't have the brain capacity to understand what he means by "Forests and islands", then you probably don't have a high enough brain capacity to play magic.
@@atomic8681 did you know what forests and islands mean in magic before hearing of or playing magic?
Wow...........
Hydras were in a decent deck.
I'm playing a hydra deck in Arena that's doing pretty well
Think I will build this, or a version of it, I mean it has hydras and its turn 2.
Green instawin? Sign me up! Green is best color. Big creatures and turning them sideways!
Team Normie You're welcome! :)
Green is the worst color?
Team Normie yes
@@berryjuice3457 Green is best color in my opinion. But to each their own. I just prefer ramping into big creatures and turning them sideways.
*how to actually win magic XDD
Infinite mana is always fun with cards with "X" in the mana cost.
Rolling thunder
I just got done building a less budget friendly version of this... Im using nylea, goddess of the hunt and walking balista as my win conditions, might actually add 1 mistcutter main and probably another 1 or 2 sideboard.
Love the budget jenk-tascticness you've got going on here, this is was MTG is really about.
Made a few changes to the deck, i think this might be a little better and offer's a little more protection.
18 forest
4 Wooded Foothills
4 llanowar elves
4 arbor elf
4 utopia sprawl
2 courser of kruphix
3 karametra's acolyte
2 scourge of skola vale
4 kalonian hydra
2 hydra broodmaster
4 mistcutter hydra
2 genesis hydra
3 rancor
4 freed from the real
2 Apostle's Blessing
2 Blossoming Defense
I LOVE any infinite combos, I really want to pull this off, but the only card I have is polukranos and the arbor elves
Pigijigi Good luck! It's a very fun casual deck.
It's a 3 card combo that also requires forests, it would be hard to pull off.
Andrew King it’s not
@@TheCreature7329 you sound like you've used it. Have you?
cool fact: the hydra brood master X X/X hydra's are referring to the x of monstrosity so if you pay 6 mana you would create 3 3/3 hydra's
This deck's not so budget anymore. It's about $120 on TCG Player
Im always amazed by combo decks, this is why i play them and love them, tasteless victories that leaves opponents with a WTF in their minds
I love it its budget and while its still good stuff, it still has so much room for improvment, really nice job
Ugh, been trying to get a few Kalonian Hydra for my +/+Life Link/Trampler deck, but at $5 a pop, not cheap enough for me lol.
Some places now he's like 10 bucks.. but he's a great hydra imo
He's incorrect on the hydra broodmaster for a few reasons. The one I dont see people mentioning is that those tokens don't spawn with +1+1 counters, so it doesn't combo with the other card. They simply spawn as x,x's...
This looks like fun in a five way sword and shield game. Obviously one guy is totally screwed when you pulled it off, but thinking about everyone scrambling to get rid of it is hilarious.
I'm glad I found your channel you are the first channel I've watched really ever because I never found a reason before to go on RUclips. I was able to get two of your budget decks for reasonable price not too much more than u did but just put this one in my cart at SCG and came out to 88.88 which Is a shame because I dont want to spend that much right now but it's an amazing deck. You should make a new budget deck video
Can also use any blue spell that makes them draw and draw out deck. Since it's infinite mana. Stroke of genius etc. Just some alternate kill to a creature in case.
He explained xx cost cards in a way that confused me a lot, and i know how they work. coulda explained it better.
the deck is fairly decent even without a 100%combo. i like that. i like the possibility of those combos but i hate it when the deck cant win without it. good job on this
Yes! Mistcutter Hydra is my favorite card in MTG
at 11:03 i believe wed only have 2 cuz we used the 4 so wed start all over. im a bit confused lol unless hes counting the one already tapped on the field.
I actually have a RUG version of this deck that is based around hydras. But it is quite expensive but it wins alot of the time by turn 4. Blue for control/ midrange matchups. And sideboard and main both run 2 flings for consistency purposes. Its only expensive because of the mana base which most players who plah hardcore have this so they sre not limited to certain decks such as myself. As i love to play different decks. I traded a playset of lilis to get all 40 shocklands and 2 playsets of fetches value of 700 at the time lili was worth 600 for a set. The deck also runs metamorphosis for mana fixing and also thins my deck to get threats.
Vastwood Hydra. Sacrifice distribute counters there were on it to creatures you control. A $1-1.20 card that would go well with the Hydra that sacs creatures and gains counters equal to it's toughness.
Imagine this: the deck you are up against is black/White and got the first turn. Oppenent got plains and swamp untapped. So, when you are totally certain to just shake hands, the opponent throws down Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual and False Cure! BAM! 😂
I also found it ironic that the first card in your sideboard, Fog, could also protect against this. And then a lot of black cheap removal could end it. However, against most decks it would be a win of course! 😁 Awesome combo though, endless possibilities with endless green mana. You could also just go for Stream of life and get endless life. For drawn out games, you can choose other colors for the lands you enchant. I would include fireballs and such spells instead of the other fancy hydras, would be a lot cheaper to buy I think. It all depends on what you're up against.
Never realized kalonian hydra doubles the counters on EACH creature, i always played it as he doubled his own counters. Good to know, and thanks for the interesting deck. The odds of getting the combo are quite slim with the reliance on utopia sprawl but when it does work it is pretty amazing, even if you get it late game!
I have been using utopia sprawl wrong
A lot of people do, that's why they started adding that reminder text to clarify its an additional mana
I haven't heard any mention of format for this deck but I presume it would be for Modern. :)
A good way to describe XX cost cards and abilities is this: Take the amount of mana you're paying and divide it by two. That's what X equals.
opponent: "damn this is absurd, fatal push"
The enchantments don't tap when what they are attached to tap. Its rarely important but every once and awhile you'll run into a situation where its important to know.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, I would love to know. However, I think that “Freed from the Real” would not be able to untap the land, due to the wording of the card. It said untap enchanted creature. I would love to know what is everyone’s thoughts!
It untapps the elf which taps to untap the forest.
James Weller ah yes!! Thank you!!
10:24 is wrong it would be 3 mana, not 4 because one is already tapped. This would take another turn to complete. Also, it would take another turn after that one because when you create a new blue mana, it is tapped because you use it to make another one. Therefore on turn 3 you will only have 3 or 4 mana max, but the turn after that is infinite.
Polkranos is my favorite hydra card as far as art goes and the ability is pretty sweet, forever loving golgari synergies whether you're running life gain, infect, fungus hydra or elf tribal, +1 counters, -1 counters and the list goes on and on
for those with a little more money, 4 walking ballista, 4 endless one (a cheap card), we can keep the haste hydra, you probably want hangarback walker, you could splash red for something like banefire as well, if you really wanna get crazy you could run draw spells with X like pull from tomorrow in combination with labratory maniac
Edit: Missed the Haste.
Walking Ballista could be used as well as a turn 2 kill, but it is more expensive. Also, add Duskwatcher Recruiter to pull any number of creatures from your library to your hand (ie your walking Ballista.)
To be honest, you can do infinite green mana with Vizier of Remedies and Devoted Druid. Same concept, only 2 cards needed for infinite with no Forest requirement. A lot more expensive since it is better.
You should Google Mistcutter Hydra
Whoops, missed the Haste next to the Protection from Blue. Need to zoom in more to be able to see it clearly. lol.
Urban utopia helps too. You can pay one more mana (one forest and on colorless) you got to draw a card and enchanted land has “add one mana of any color”
To clarify you do not get more tokens from broodmaster when attacking with kalonian hydra. Only when you pay the cost and it becomes monstrous
Kalonian Hydra doesn't make the tokens from Hydra Broodmaster bigger. It only makes Hydra Broodmaster bigger if you've already put counters on it.
Llanowar Elf always makes me think of the old xbox mtg game. Ahhh. Memories.
I’m loving this deck! Especially that I’m pretty sure the infinite mana combo works in pauper. If I have a deck idea for a baller on a budget deck how should I send it to ya?
Add villainous wealth into the deck you can exile your opponents entire library
But black mana would be pretty difficult to fit into the deck...
If you want to make it a little cheaper, throw out a few of the expensive hydras and put in 4 stream of life. 1 green X = gain X life. So if you have infinite mana, but no hydra, having infinite life does put you at an advantage of staying alive :)
it'd be cool if you put a whole decklist in the description
Running infinite green mana you could just throw in something like blossoming defence to stop kill spells =)
Yup
Tap clockwise you maniac!!!!
Mwahaha
Deal with it, I do what I want!
He’s an ambi-turner.
I tap counter clockwise always
I LOLed.
I really love your deck techs Joey^^ i build most of them. Me and my friends play like kitchen table magic and share our decks while playing so we not rock hard on what is legal in modern or not as long as it's fair.
I made this deck but i added 2 primordial hydra in the deck and its a lot of fun to play. Keep up the good content. You are by far my favorit youtuber with mtg and u inspired so many of my decks through deck techs both in paper and on arena.
/Henrik
this is an infinite mana combo (and there are ones that run less cards to pull it) so basically you can get this "insta win" with any creature/spell tha t can deal damage to your enemy
hi man i build this deck and changed a a couple of things instand of naturalize i added the new hydra from throne of eldraine, hydro krasis cuz i had t for an other deck swiftfoot boots and heroic intervention. wish you and your family best of luck in this crazy period, march 2020, in case you reed comments on old videos .
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how Kalonian Hydra can help us make more token from Broodmaster. You would have to have it become monstruous During the declare attacker phase, which I'm pretty sure you can't do
What about a turn 3 black card that destroys the hydra?? or a turn 1 shock to kill your elf? there is also a white spell that makes the hydra unable to attack and defend. This combo is quiet easily counter-able
Finialy someone else who taps counter-clockwise
Almost everyone i know taps counter clockwise
That’s something that i hate in Magic
I don't know anyone that doesn't tap counter-clockwise.
@@taylorbates4742 might be a regional thing. Atm in my locals 26 people. Everyone taps counter clockwise.
1. Common mistake, don't call the mana by their basic land type. Forests do not make "Forest Mana", they make Green Mana. That's why the Sprawl says 'pick a color'.
2. The combo is good if you get it T2, but you do need perfect card draw. The Rancor is only really necessary if they have a non-blue blocker. And past T3 a lot of things can go wrong.
3. If you really want to make the combo your main goal I wouldn't bother with the other Hydras. I'd get some removal, since you're playing blue anyways maybe add some bounce and counters and islands.
Does seem like a lot of fun to pull off tho. :P
What if I'm trigger happy?
I removed the scourge of Skola Vale and replaced with a primordial hydra. Combos well with Kalonian Hydra
Really you need to increase the combo elements for greater consistency. You need 15 turn one green sources, so the rest can be islands which allows you to add wild growths then add a low cost creature that allows you to untap any land (hopefully one exists for 2 mana). I'm not sure there is an additional way to replicate the untap feature of the blue enchantment cheaply. Frantic search can help with digging for the combo and is cheap. These additions increase the chance of a combo victory but on turn 3 or later.
Honestly, I prefer Voyaging Satyr over some of the ramp options here. It's basically extra copies of Arbor Elf for going infinite.
Of course, I ran the really expensive Blue Sun Zenith version of this deck, so it needed to go infinite.
If I'm reading Utopia sprawl correctly, it doesn't say that it produces 2 Mana. One from the forest and one from Utopia sprawl it just changes the color of the Mantis so you're actually only making one Mana by tapping it. Can someone explain this?
false read the text in the ( )
With this shell you can do all sorts. Maybe simic draw spells and some win con/ infinite turns/ etc.
thanks for the deck.i literally have all those cards in my deck tutor binder for a hydra deck. ..
Nice!
ZERO Ravager You're welcome. :)
Kalonian Hydra doesn’t combo with any sort of token effects on Broodmaster, it only makes Broodmaster itself bigger
I wasn’t getting the combo until you played the blue card... then it all cane together. Gonna build this deck ASAP. How much does it cost about?
I love these videos. They are what got me back into Magic in any good way lol
Like $45. It's fun but you'll need something to protect your Hydra, blossoming defense
Bad Boy Gaming That won’t be a problem, funny part is I have most of these cards including the more expensive ones. I just checked and I only need to pay $5 for the rest of the singles I don’t have lol
It's less than $50, and it's super fun to play. Thank you! :)
How to Meme Alright thanks for the math, I still have a bunch of the cards. I am almost done with it. My LGS didn’t have all the copies of some of the cards
Why no blossoming defense or heroic intervention?
Primarily for fatal push or path to exile?
Great decks I've seen you put up here. Why not put deck lists in the description?
Back in the day Mogg Maniac and Fiery Covenant was the very first quick/early win combo that I would pull off
You could cast multiple utopia sprawls on the one forest and then produce 3 each tap
Can we get a NON-BUDGET COMPETITIVE version of this deck for modern? i wanna play a modern hydra deck reaaly bad
dang, this is like a really fun deck to play, I always enjoyed getting to see your different deck text you do a great job of making budget stuff that is still playable!
I miss when you would make these videos. This is what got me into magic to begin with. Still like what u do now just miss the baller in a budget deck techs haha
There are a few things that could disrupt that combo, like path to exile and the like, but I still love this deck, good job!
Could throw in apostles blessing in the combo to give mistcutter hydra protection from any colour you need (white or black)
Yes
Decklist:
Main Board
Llanowar Elves 4
Arbor Elf 4
Utopia sprawl 4
Courser of Kruphix 2
karametra's Acolyte 4
Scourge of Skola Vale 2
Kalonian Hydra 4
Hydra Broodmaster 2
mistcutter hydra 4
Genesis Hydra 2
Rancor 4
Freed from the Real 4
Sideboard
Fog 4
Naturalize 4
Scourge of Skola Vale 2
Polukranos, World Eater 2
Genesis Hydra 3
The deck is a cool idea, but the combo is hard to pull off since it's a 5 card combo (4 if you don't count the forest) with no redundancy