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Should prolly mention in the David and Goliath story that Goliath brought his shield guy out with him to the duel, so cheats all round
Yeah the duel was never about honor, it was about winning, and if David didn’t bring a gun to a knife fight, he would’ve been swept
Hades is one of the very few Greek gods to be loyal to his wife.
He did not want Eurydice as a second wife.
It is just, you know, the rules that the dead don't go back to the land of the living.
He and Ares get pretty bad reps in modern culture. Hades pretty much kept to himself and let Persephone leave for half of the year. Ares is a good father and is a pretty fair god of war compared to others (especially compared to Athena). Straight up killed Poseidon’s son for messing with his daughter and never abused women
10:30 It's even better than you think. Under core versions of the greek myths, Helios and the sun were literally the eye of Zeus. So Heracles shot his dad in the eye.
Source?
@@platogkrone7161 Euripides' assorted tragedies, Hesiod, these prayers and magical hymns to/about Zeus:
"Sun famed-for-steeds, Zeus’ earth-embracing eye. All-bright, high-travelling, fallen-from-Zeus, heaven-ranging"
"As eyes he has the sun and the shining moon"
"Clear-skied, all-radiant, circling eye of the world"
"I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye."
Yeah, but it’s a metaphorical poetry. Stories to tell to learn and unpack wisdom, like don’t air your dirty laundry for all to see.
The tale of orpheus and eurydice is very similar to the tale of Izanagi and Izanami in Shinto mythology. Except when Izanagi retrieved his wife Izanami from Yomi after she had died while giving birth to kagutsuchi. When he found her in Yomi she asked him not to look back at her. But during their journey Izanagi did and beheld her body having rotten and decayed in the house of the dead. Izanagi fled and his insulted wife sent monsters to chase after him. At the entrance he placed a boulder which Izanami could not pass through and so she vowed to take revenge by strangling 1,000 people a day. Izanagi responded by saying he would cause the birth of 1,500 people a day.
Yeah it's really weird how similar they are.
These similarities remind me of one similarity that almost every if not all cultures on Earth share: Dragons! You will find some mention of a dragon or dragon-like creature in every mythology that has been documented to date.
@@osmaniesquijarosa4308 and Mermaids.
Dragons and mermaids all round.
@@zimbabweking yup, pretty wacky. I can understand where the myths of mysterious water dwellers with an alluring call might come from if you were to hear the call of marine animal, such as whale, ever heard one? They can sound pretty haunting or even musical under certain conditions, such as, say, being in the water for a long time, probably suffering from scurvy, tiredness, and thirst, all things that a sailor experienced commonly back in the day by simply weathering the seas, thing get pretty wacky when you're out at sea for too long.
But Dragons? I really don't have anything, except maybe, dinosaur bones? People could've confused the skeletons of dinosaurs for those of a dragon, and tbh, I can see why, they weren't far off considering humanity as a whole wouldn't even know about dinosaurs until the 19th century. The other explanation could be some type of animal that could've existed during humanities migratory periods during the various ice ages, but that one seems a stretch since we haven't found the remains of any such creature.
3:18 Another big thing that they're wrong about. The Underworld wasn't the place for sinners. It was the place for EVERYONE. There is no such thing as "heaven". There is only the realm of the Living and the realm of the Dead. As for the Gods, they live in special place in either of these two realms.
As for "fire", that's also wrong. It was a place mostly of darkness, but in the sense of a gigantic underground cavern with a huge river the size of the Nile running through it. Then there were several regions that had more unique environments.
The Greek Underworld does not equal Christian Hell.
Hades is not a bad person. He's just someone who was tricked into having that job(because Poseidon and Zeus didn't want to be in charge of the Underworld and made it so that they would be the ones to rule over the good stuff, and made Hades be the one for the Underworld). And then, Hades is actually doing his job very seriously and justly.
2 things, & I could be wrong about these. Grapes are actually poisonous to foxes. So the fox really lucked out. The Midas story's interpretation is actually a bit more nuanced, Midas himself was actually a pretty swell guy.
the fox story is kinda to represent those who are entitled even when denied. its basically the whole thing of the guy that chases a girl and once rejected he goes “well you were ugly anyways i didn’t actually want you” but its a fable so theres tons of interpretations.
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That makes sense.
Was he? Wasn’t the cause for his story being forced to make a judgment in a music contest between Pan and Apollo, and he lies for the reward he gets?
10:30 counter argument: he DID carry the sky (or the world depending on whomst you asked) so with that in mind, it wouldn’t be hard to think that shooting at a chariot in the sky happened (good aimbot)
A fair assessment
Strange, I remember midas attempting to eat something, but choking on it, having it turn to gold before he could swallow.
i know it's a metaphor but still "you cannot step twice in water that is changing" yes, yes i can, that is what a bucket is for plato.
2:05 Wrong. Calling the Underworld "Hades" only is something that came about much later. In the myth and in the Greek stories, it's either called the Underworld or the Kingdom of Hades. It being called as simply "Hades" is a shortened form and it wasn't called such by the Ancient Greeks.
Also, Hades is arguably the most decent person in all of the Greek gods and he was absolutely not a narcissist.
I will not stand by this slander towards one of the only good god in Greek myths.
Looking through such thing as fx. Christian scripture, the Word Hades is also used to designate the Kingdom of the dead, where in in the end, Hades and the Sea give up the dead, good and bad to be judged. It's not a physical place per day.
The sea for example is used as a parable for the world on where good and bad people are,
moral of the story for the fox and grapes: cope and mald
The Thing with the Icarus myth is that he didnt burn because of the sun but because of the God of the Sun Helios because Icarus Hubris wasnt only his overconfidence but him insulting also Helios and then being struck by him
The 12 labers of Hercules and since he asked for payment for one of them it didn't count so he had to do 13th laber
It was initially "10" labours. But besides the "no payment" rule he also wasn't supposed to have any outside help with his labours. They had to be done 100% solo. Killing of Hydra didn't count, because he had someone help him with the heads. And cleaning the stables (the payment one) didn't count, because they argued that it was his rerouted river that helped him and did most of the work. So in the end he had to do 12 labours instead of 10 within that quest.
Thing with Icarus is that the Greeks have mountains, tall enough to notice that it's colder on top of them than at the bottom. Maybe Crete don't but surely some Cretans would have been on a mountain or seen one with snow on top.
I know this is a year late but the story of Heracles, Achilles, etc. were all myths created in the Bronze age under Mycenean Greece. The story of Heracles shooting the sun would be nearly 1000-500 years before the recognized Classical Age of Greece where science, philosophy, culture, etc. blossomed as we recognize it today.
It's easy to forget how old and how many different periods existed in Greece but most myths were created before/around the time of writing the Iliad witch was as old to the Classical Age Greeks as the Classical Age Greeks are to us under cultures as alien to the Greeks as they are to us (The Dorians, Minoans, Mycaneans, etc.), therefore the story of Heracles shooting the sun was FAR before Greeks discovered what celestial bodies, stars, etc. were.
10:30 You ever look into ancient Greek "science fiction"? Shit gets wild. We look back on the Greeks as being amazing astronomers, but so much of the literature was filled with stories about things like people with bat wings on the moon and an empire on Venus.
Of course, the stories were told the same way they told mythology, as things that actually "happened". So the writers placed themselves in the stories as people who got on a _boat_ and sailed to _space._
And the dumbass public believed most of it.
Think it was called "True History" or something like it, written by an ancient Greek novelist and comedian that I forget the name of. It was meant to be a satire of all of these stories, but people still bought it as true and it ended up being his most sold work.
It's Lucian's "A True Story" and while it is considered to be the very first science fiction, you're wrong in saying that "dumbass public believed most of it". Lucian was a well known satirist, and most of all an intellectual (in a sense of having literary education, since literature and poetry were main sources of knowledge and morality), just as his readers were; people knew what tongue-in--cheek writings look like and what is being made fun of. Let's not presume ancient people to be completely gullible - they appreciated a good fantasy (myths) the same way people in modern times do.
Now of course there was definitely a higher number of people believing in centaurs or Troy actually happening as recalled in the Iliad, than there is people nowadays believing in unicorns, but as I said, literary tradition and playfulness of authors was widely understood and appreciated. This is the beauty of our kind and just another proof of how little we changed across the centuries =)
@@krollthebarbarian955 Neat.
I don't think there's any evidence that anyone at the time thought that book was true, it is very obviously a satire of travel writing and would have been at the time. Also, "so much of the literature"... literally one book
@@cerdic6305 It was satire of other writers at the time with their stories.
@@AWACS_Snowblind as I said, it was a satire of travel writers at the time who made up a lot of nonsense, and the satire was to take it to the extreme by saying he went to other planets and all of that stuff.
Like many myths that are around for a long time, there are different versions of the Orpheus one. On that note, i think you would really enjoy the videos from Overly Sarcastic Productions. Would appreciate some reactions. They do mainly stuff about history (Blue, one of them), mythology, literature, and media tropes (Red, the other main person in front of the microphone).
Greek mythology paradox. Shadow of Hercules is in underwirld. While his body with gods
12 Labors of Herakles
The Sodom Bible story isn't actually about trusting God. You could argue that to some degree, but the reason the woman turned back was because she missed her sinful life and looked back at the city because she wished it could have continued and that is why she was turned to salt. It wasn't so much trusting God, though that was an element of it, as it was her not actually being sorry and belonging with the other bad people.
You should do a react series on the Story Mode channel that Internet Historian does - it’s really funny recaps of game stories
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Persephone does actually leave the Underworld for 6 months or so every year.
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about 21 years ago i went out to fishing with the boyfriend of my sister at the time, and they had these massive slingshots for slinging out bait, and even wee 11 year old me could sling that loose sack of bait atleast 50 meters easily. imagine you put something like an iron ball into that
Internet Historian has another Channel called Storymode. He mainly uploads video game summaries over there.
Just leave this, if you're interested
A practical use for Midas's power is ultimate self defence, getting mugged? Just touch the mugger, instant gold statue.
If your goal is to get rich through criminal means while having Midas as a target, you can make much more money by throwing a random grandma at Midas, and then haul the gold statues to a safehouse.
On the other hand, if Midas exists long enough, his gift would end up crashing the gold market, making it about as valuable as sand in the desert.
Lol icarus is my pilot callsign. After a certain crash people called me it. And it stuck haha
Holy :D
About trusting the words of Hades. You should. He does NOT lie. Ever.
(do not believe in the fake satan-like version of Hades from the Disney Hercule movie, because just like everything else in that movie, it's a horrible adaptation of the myths)
Heracles and Hercules are two different people. Heracles is the Greek version, whereas Hercules is the Roman version. Obviously, the Greek version came first, and then the Romans changed it when they made there myths
I never really understood why he looked back and didn't wait. I get it but refrain yourself lol. Dont turn around, you had one job
also, dissapointed about the lack of norse mythology in this vid.
9:24 Heracles*
Yeah, the thing about philosophers is the same as the current people obsessed with fallacies and debates. You're just looking for reasons and arguments to confirm your own bias, coming up with arguments and ideas that confirm why your thought process is valid and what not. News flash, just because you think something is a certain way and nobody can refute your reasoning, it doesn't automatically make it a reality.
23:29 my fucking curse knowledge, knew this image in a place of games for cultured people,God if you know that game become a "...." You are cursed just as me
Infidels, I think was the word.
And I thought the thing about biblical kings was that no man can rule the Kingdom of God's chosen people because at some point they all fail and fall to sin.
No, I'm pretty sure he ment Gentiles
Gentiles is the all encompassing word for all those who are not Jews. Everyone falls into one of two categories: Jews or Gentiles. It’s not derogatory it’s just classification.
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