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In this video, Joe interviews Rob Schwarzinger, CEO of @PointGuardenergy and we are looking at the new PointGuard Home solar and energy storage system. PointGuard is the USA brand for @sigenergy .
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I really like these features. Im in the process of building a new home and will look at this company ad compare them with EG4 system... for prices and features. I think the Combined 24kw output is a very good idea. Well done PointGuard...!!
Really like all the features they have built into this system; they understand the market and are targeting folks like me who want a simple, all-in-one system that provides whole home backup with the ability to expand. I recently reached out to them looking for installers in Georgia and am interested on how the pricing will compare to the competition. Either way I think this is the system to beat now.
I've been following their stuff pretty closely. I wish we could get more details on the V2X and a vehicle it axtually works with or even who they are in talks/testing with.
What vehicles does the EV charger work with? I specifically want to know on my Ford Lightning which supports bidirectional charging already.
We are still waiting on standards to be agreed between the solar equipment manufacturers and the vehicle manufacturers.
That's a Sigenergy’s product!
sounds a lot like the span panel for their load centre
These guys have checked all the boxes. If I ever move into a smaller home, they will be a company to look into.
My panel now has 50 breakers, so they are a little shy of my retrofit requirement but would work for a critical loads panel. Unfortunately, in the last 4 months, I have put $8k into my setup. Not changing now unless they need a testing homesite.
Great video and love the modularity of the system. I am going to get solar installed in the next few months. Curious how you cost justify batteries in Texas. Our energy costs are not high enough to offset the cost of the battery system. At least by my math.
The payback on batteries is often more about self-reliance than just $ savings.
@ which is a very political way of saying there is no ROI on battery systems. 🤣
Any idea whether, if a specific battery module fails, the modules above have to be taken out of service and removed to replace the failed battery module? Or can the individual module be opened up and just the internal battery be replaced without tearing down the stack? Thx!
If one of your battery packs fails, the others continue to work, and you'll just need to replace the one that failed.The new pack works seamlessly with the old packs whether you have to replace a pack after 3 months or 10 years.
How do I find installers in my area (Redlands CA 92373) that use this product? Can I assemble the battery modules and controller and then have installer come in for connections and commissioning? Would that save money?
Getting it installed through Good Faith Energy in Dallas.
Looks to be a great product. The game changer will be the V2X functionality (specifically using my EV as a back up battery)
I know Mo and the team at Good Faith. They are good people.
How much do the Pointguard batteries cost ? Approx. $ for the batteries. Prices are not online and you must ask for a quote !
Im familiar with good faith energy. I didn't know they offered the Pointguard battery system. AWESOME! 😊
So since it's DC coupled it's not Enphase micro inverter capable?
Enphase is a highly proprietary system and from what i've read online it doesn't play well with other brands including batteries that do not have their microinverters on board. Enphase chose to make their systems and batteries to use their microinverters and to where you must buy and use mostly only their brand equipment!
The PointGuard Home system is natively a DC coupled system; however, the system also supports AC coupled solar arrays, regardless of which solar inverters you may be using already. Many installers add PointGuard Home to already existing solar systems by AC coupling the PV to our solution. In new solar plus storage installs, we do recommend to DC couple the solar directly into our Controller, which provides the highest degree of functionality and cost benefit.
@@PointGuard-37.62 Good to know !
@@PointGuard-37.62that’s a long winded way to say you guys have a hybrid inverter…..
@@Bowhunters6go8xz6x Enphase, at least in Australia where I live, are very pro-active in accommodating AC coupling. It is my understanding, based on installers information, that the Sigenergy system can integrate with the Enphase micros. Perhaps not all models, but at least with my IQ7A's. So I'm having a system installed in my home soon.
I have installed one in August and so far I really happy with the system, and yes in EU it’s called sigenergy and also have AI integrated not mention in video
Curious about how much do the Pointguard batteries cost to buy the 5kwh and 8kwh batteries , on their website you must do a form for a quote request and I have not been able to find their prices online?
@@Bowhunters6go8xz6x Hi, we don't sell our products online, we sell through solar distributors and installers, so the only way to get pricing is to go through an installer.
Sigenergy must have added module charge for EV, therefore, lost 8 kilowatthours energy storage. He said 40 max, Sigenergy was 48 maximum. The best units on the market. I'm not aware anyone else has fire protection like Sigenergy units. BEST SPEED, 0 SECONDS CHANGE FROM GRID TO BATTERY!
@@Bowhunters6go8xz6x in UK at least the for what I know 5kwh was if not wrong £2000 and 8kwh £2600 but prices could be different regarding which installer you choose
@@brunoingles6074 Tks !
With a NEM2 reservation I need to put my solar array in with inverter without any batteries so I don’t get kicked over to NEM3 then I want to add batteries. After I get my PTO from Pg&e, then I will put in to add the battery storage . Can this in inverter function without batteries?
Yes, it can.
Thank you for the prompt response 👍
If you put the DC EV charger in the stack does it replace one of the available battery module slots (ie, you can have 1 less battery because the charger takes up a slot)?
That's not my understanding but I will try to find out.
You are correct. Although our technical limitations allow us to stack 6 modules high plus our Controller (the top piece), US electric code regulations limit us to 5 modules high plus the Controller. 5 battery packs get you to a max. output per stack of 37.62 kWh, because another regulation limits us to 40kWh per stack.
This would be 4 of the 8kWh packs and 1 of the 5s. If you add the V2X charger once it is commercially available, it would decrease your maximum stack capacity to a little over 32kWh. However, you can easily add another stack to increase your battery capacity. Our current max is 3 battery stacks to yield up to 113kWh of battery capacity.
But... if you add the V2X module, you will have access to your EV's battery, so you may not need to add another stack.
@@PointGuard-37.62 Thanks. This is interesting info. What is the minimal stack with a V2X charger? 1 controller + 1 V2x charger?
It would be nice if your website had a configurator. One can then play with the requirements (1 V2X charger, X kWh, Y kW) and the configurator shows the setup. I think Anker Solix has something like that.
@@epelegrillopart Great question. We do not have the information yet. You can certainly have a stack with a single 5 kWh battery pack, the V2X charger, and a Controller. Once we get closer to launch, we will know if we can do just a V2X charger and a Controller without any batteries.
Can be run with out batteries. Off grid. With grid back up ?
Yes, Yes, and Yes. Our Controller can work with solar only (without batteries), and you can add batteries at a later time. The PointGuard Home system can operate totally off-grid. In fact, we have our first installs in Palos Verdes in Southern California, where a community has been cut off from the utilities due to a landslide. These systems are running the homes off-grid. If the grid returns, they can connect to the grid at that time.
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Roughly how much it cost as compared to Canadian solar e p qube. System it cost close to 8000 $
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What was the 120% rule? Also does Pointguard work with home owners for direct sells so we can do most of the install and contract out what we are not comfortable with?
The 120% rule refers to the DC-AC size ratio. So for an inverter with output of 11.4kW, you could connect 13.7kW of DC-rated solar panels.
Slight correction here... The 120% rule is a code rule that installers must follow if solar or a battery is connected directly to the home's main panel. This is a safety calculation as to not overload the main panel by injection too much electricity from sources other than the grid, i.e. solar and/or batteries. This limits the amount of solar you can connect to the main panel.
If you are using a backup panel/switch that has power control system certification, you do not need to observe the 120% rule. The power control system (PCS) regulates the solar and battery sources so the home's main panel does not get overloaded. PointGuard's LoadHub has PCS certification, so in any backup systems with PointGuard, you do not have to observe this rule, thus you can connect a source with large output, i.e. a big PV system, to the LoadHub.
The DC to AC ratio refers to how much solar (PV) capacity you can connect to an inverter. The PointGuard Controller has a 2:1 DC to AC ratio, meaning you can connect up to 22.8kW of solar to an 11.4kW Controller.
@@PointGuard-37.62 Thank you for taking the time to read the post and also reply in detail. I have not heard of that before so I appreciate the detailed response.
We currently only sell through distributors and installers. We have a certification program for installers, only certified installers are able to commission our system. Our distributors are Sunrgy and Greentech Renewables.
Where can I find certified installers in Dallas?
need to know if able to do 3 phase power but also talking at the sigenrgy level not the us point guard level as looking for Australia, but also whats maximum inverting power plus storage amount maximum
Hi, we currently do not support 3-phase electrical service in the US; however, 3-phase is supported in other parts of the world.
The Clean Energy Council in Australia approved the 3phase SigEnergy system in early October for most configurations up to 25KW inverter on top of 48KW of battery. I checked this 2 days ago as I want one as well. 😁
@@jamesdean2185 hey mate, im looking at going that way in a few months... is it above the 1k for kwh? I cbf asking for quotes until im ready to pull that trigger
wish this would have been available 4 years ago when I bought my system (assuming it would have been price competitive at that time). I would have gone with a 10 or 13kWh config probably. Maybe even 15kWh. The bidirectional aspect interests me going forward from an EV perspective. I just wish it was compatible NOW with an enphase solar array with microinverters. So hard to justify replacement of the entire solar array inverter system along with the battery backup at this point. Definitely cost prohibitive.
Hi there. PointGuard Home is compatible with your enphase solar array. Even though the system is natively a DC coupled system, i.e. solar can be DC coupled directly into the PointGuard Controller, your existing solar array can easily be AC coupled to our system. DC coupling provides the largest cost benefit, but installers routinely add PointGuard to existing PV arrays, whether they are Enphase, SMA, SolarEdge or other solar inverters.
Noticed throughout the video everything is regarding the installer The installer does everything you need help the installer you want to add the installer. All that is happening with solar is that it is going to be the new gas instead of empowering humans to rely on themselves solar has now become and is going to be the new gas. What I mean by that is you're going to pay the exact same thing you were paying before with gas it's going to be just as complicated as installing a air conditioning unit because that's what they want. This is a modular system so you should be able to buy your own battery from the manufacturer and install it but he has not mentioned that once he keeps saying the installer you want to upgrade call the installer
What is the warranty? All those compact batteries make me suspicious: I looked at Sigenergy the warranty was very much below par...
Standard 10 year warranty
Not really 10 years for Sigenergy..Max throughput for a 8kwh battery 23,77 MWh OR 10 years to 70%. Note that the warranty is for usage in 0.5C.
Details matter here!
I think all batteries with a small form factor really need a limit on throughput and 0.5C. Correct me if I am wrong
seeing the spec sheet, this system must have been designed specifically for NA market, while SigenStor is global.
Yes, it has. Where I live in Australia, I can configure the Sigenergy (it goes by the Sigenergy name) stack in 3 phase power up to a maximum 48kWh stack and up to 29.9kW inverter. I'm looking at installing a 3 phase 15kW/40kWh stack for my home in the next few weeks.
Who manufactures these batteries 🔋?
Competition is great….but if I could I would always try to support American 🇺🇸 made solar components.
I understand people are on budget but I just prefer to champion U.S. craftsmanship/manufacturing…..but this battery platform is really nice.
Have to admit the stackable concept is best. Enphase needs to improve with this concept.
Why is this marketed as Pointguard instead of Sigenstor?
I've seen them as Haier too. Yet that's poorly documented. Sigenergy info is way better accessible.
Rebranded Sigenergy products...
It's kind of insane that it tolerates portable generator power. That's not common across the current crop of products, right?
That’s correct. To my knowledge, the only (Inverters) that are tolerant of dirty. Power are Schneider Electric, Sol-Ark, Franklin, and PointGuard.
SIGENERGY hahahha