Best Battery for Net Zero Home? (Enphase IQ 5P)
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In this video, Joe reacts to @UndecidedMF's choice of the @EnphaseEnergy IQ Battery 5P for whole house battery storage
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Thank you for presenting and responding to Matt's video. I've been watching Matt's channel for years, and he presents many energy saving solutions and appliances for the typical home. I'm glad he caught your attention, and I hope some of your viewers decide to follow him as well. Keep up the good work, you are educating many people on preparing for the zombie apocalypse!
It has always seemed to me that Enphase has gone out of their way to create a route where they force people that buy their solar panel micro inverters and controllers, etc. to force people to be locked into buying all Enphase components including batteries. They also seem to have (doubled down) by creating their batteries with even more micro inverters and so to force people to make you buy as many of their inverters as possible and in the end it is to line their pockets. ( Not a Question Really, but more of what i've seen from their equipment and their pushing people to buy more and more of their micro inverters. )
The counterpoint is vendor finger-pointing if an issue arises leaving homeowner in the lurch when combining best-of-breed. We are VERY early in the tech curve on consumer whole home batteries (in the overall scheme of things). I have SunPower system using EnPhase inverters… I’m annoyed enough with SunPower for their heavily shortcut to-my-detriment install, that I’d love to dump their PVS6… but anyway.
As SPAN is complete overkill for me/my use case, what I’ll be looking forward at some point is a Hybrid Inverter and battery system that are guaranteed compatible, if not same vendor or an integrated unit.
Matt’s mentions his real reason for enPhase battery is local AHJ sprinkler requirement for over 20kWh system … as I’m looking at >20kWh battery system, enPhase makes no sense at this time for me.. other professionally installed options will be cheaper
You have the best solar content on the internet right now. Thank you 🙏
Glad it was helpful.
Oo😊.
I have an face and it took him two weeks to hook it all up and all running perfect and I love it
Sorry about that I met in phase
This was an amazing tutorial for me as I’m in the process of getting my solar roof integrated with my very expensive electrical system for a relatively small home in Southern California. My local code inspectors will certainly be looking for the best in class safety profiles of the system I choose to complete my system. Cheers!
Two of my favorite You Tube channels put together 🎉. Wonder-twin powers…activate!
Interesting. I love the modular approach. Lets me customize exactly what I want/need, and allows me to expand.
You would find my Tesla PW install ugly but I love it.
Great video!
I've really been thinking about going with the EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra set up. Seems to come out much cheaper while allowing a modular setup with batteries that can be moved around for multiple use cases.
I dont think you can use the Delta Pro Ultra or any Ecoflow or other brand of off grid systems with a grid-tied solar system.
I learned a lot ty
Nice job
Can you make a video about the solarc (if thats spelled right) install
I agree that even beyond "grid down" apps are not safe from acquisitions, hacks, etc, and are a threat vector.
The Enphase solar panels have one the highest wind ratings of any panel.
I'm not aware of any Enphase brand solar panels.
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You are correct sir. I stand erected. What I meant to say was Aptos panels.
In the end it seems you’d be better of having an energy audit of the house, mitigate things like missing insulation, replace old single pane windows, replace older water heater, replace old furnace with heat pump, etc. in other words, limit your energy usage up front before investing in solar cells and batteries.
Agree 100%
True. I have all of 3.9 kW peak of solar. Under NEM 2.0 in California I produce 2,000 kW-hr excess per year. This really surprised me as in renovating my house I added a basement and two more baths to a three bedroom house. The difference was really insulating everything, putting in double pane windows and going all electric with heat pumps for AC and hot water.
We went with 3 Enphase 5p batteries with 24 Qcell 410 panels and IQ8M inverters for $43 k. Both of the Tesla system quotes were 6 figures. We're running off-grid after Hurricane Beryl. Turning off the A/C in the evening, and surviving. I wish we had gone with 4 batteries.
Hey, that’s a very good price for that system. I hope your installer was able to make a little bit of profit. Glad to hear the system is holding up.
@@SolarSurge After 7 quotes... my wife got us a "friends & family" quote from a friend in the business. We got lucky. The next closest quote $18k more.
@@DGuthrie1111 I'd bet they lost money on that project. Hopefully that company will be able to make it long term.
Another great video. Do you have any videos on modular systems, such as Eco Flow, Bluetti, or others?
Yes, check out our video on Bluetti EP800: ruclips.net/video/wT9BWuwH7v8/видео.html
You can buy batteries 14k for $3000 wall mount
Install 2 or 3 there are differant brands EG4-WallMount Indoor Battery | 48V 280Ah | 14.3kWh | Indoor |
Great video review! Both Matt Ferrell's channels and yours are a must-watch. It's like a good comic book crossover with you reviewing the video! I personally prefer Solaredge due to the lower price point compared to Enphase, but the NMC battery chemistry is less superior than LFP. I do have a question. Since Solaredge has released their Solaredge Energy Hub inverter, has the reliability improved? Has the installers noticed a lowering of the failure rates with that inverter?
Have you considered the option of purchasing a leaf s just to use as a V2H battery instead of installing just a battery on a wall in your garage? Keep leaf outside, it has environmental protection, crash protection, could be used once in a while as backup vehicle, could be driven or towed to a charge station to bring power back home during extended outages. I personally don't want batteries mounted on a wall of my garage, it's not an option or safe either. I would rather have a leaf parked in my side driveway outside, even build a carport over it. This option would cost a similar amount and last way longer given 40kWh battery used in a narrow range SOC. Draw is limited to 7kW but that really isn't a big deal for most households.
Quick question on app, is Bluetooth sufficient to control these home battery systems or do you actually need internet access? If so, why?
That's a great question. I don't have a clear answer on that yet.
@@SolarSurgeEnphase Requires a live internet connection, to control the battery discharge, in the event your connected to a virtual powerplant on the grid, this is because the utility directs them to put your system in discharge in the event they need grid support. They also require a cell modem as a backup, in the event the main ethernet or wifi connection stops working. It’s also a good ides for the data logging of production & discharge, and finally it’s a requirement for their 15 year/6,000 cycle battery warranty. how can they track cycles if it’s not being monitored?
Enphase is now holding training for use of their batteries and micros in OFF grid systems. I would assume that the internet connection requirement will be relaxed with this type of system, since many of these OFF grid systems are in remote locations and do not have internet access.
@@keng5067 Internet access is now worldwide, StarLink works anywhere, and its very fast. It is a bit costly, but even off gridders need internet..
Joe, have you found any definitive document or spec sheet from Tesla which actually/officially states that the new Power Wall 3 is made up of LFP batteries as opposed to NMC batteries? I still haven't been able to officially confirm that the Power Wall 3 system use LFP batteries.
No I think they intentionally did not publish this to spark the kind of speculation we are having now.
Enphase has great products I have no issues with anything that they do. Who's just a little unfortunate that the cost of the in phase solar only battery sized to any substance is so close in cost to a full function battery like a Franklin for example.
What would you recommend for a pro-installed unified battery/controller ecosystem setup then? I used to think you favored Enphase, but you seemed to have soured on them recently?
I still like Enphase. I also like Tesla, Franklin and SolarEdge depending on the situation. In this case, since he already had Enphase micro-inverters, staying with the Enphase batteries made sense.
So my installer made us two quotes for a solar/micro plus battery system. One was with 3 enphase 5ps and one with 1 PW3 - the enphase system was only like 4k more(I'm in NC).
😂seems like folks like to dream up complicated and expensive systems to geek out over. With net metering going away or having never existed in the first place, ( my situation) I don’t see how this system is cost effective. I can’t justify spending so much money per Kilowatt hour. In addition, he never stated exactly what the entire solar system expense was gross or net after tax credits and rebates. Fuzzy details. I met recently with the site engineer for new line extension for the coop and he recommended that I install a standby natural gas generator for power outages and I could add the least expensive battery storage if I felt compelled. Generator would keep the battery charged if power was out. My 2 cents
I am pretty sure you can access the enphase web ui locally and dont need intenet connectivity.
Not directly through a web UI, it can be controlled somewhat through Home Assistant locally
I'm very interested in the point guard energy home battery solution but only as long as their bidirectional DC EV charger works with a vehicle I'd be willing to buy. Waiting patiently as it seems to he vaporware roght now.
Also, isn’t dumping water on a lithium fire a really bad idea? Wouldn’t the sprinkler system just make the problem worse?
No
I like Span, but don't you need the internet to get full use?
Enphase discusses their Gen 4 10kw battery in their latest investor presentation. Title is something along the lines of “CEO letter 2023” (reviews their fiscal 2023). Due in 2025 along with Combiner and System Controller merged into a single box.
Very interesting. Would you please share the link to the report...
@@SolarSurge For some reason RUclips will not let me paste the link. search for “Enphase CEO letter 2023”. It’s 24 page PDF
Wow go dam😊
Hey @Solar Surge... if they are pahsing out or doing away with net metering as you stated in this video, then whats the purpose of even getting panels and batteries anymore? If we eventually wont significantly lower or electric bill, then why pay $30k to $50k for all of this stuff?
The idea is that you can be your own utility both day and night so you don’t need Net Metering. You would literally use the electric utility as a last resort option only. So you would be able to reduce your electric bill significantly.
I like the new style of video ... keep up the good work. Brotha uhhhhhhhhhhhh lol
So, how do I get federal tax break if Im on SSI
That's the problem. Essentially, if you don't pay the government taxes you can't use the tax break.
@@tookster7483 Everyone pays taxes xD if your working stiff you pay taxes bro. Everyone forgets that where you work automatically takes out money from your check to pay those taxes.
Copiar e não inovar não me importa.
Se o produto é bom e barato é o que eu quero
As an off grid kinda guy I like my systems to have NO software ! The Biggest problem with any of these systems is always the software in the integration. In a grid down survival scenario No.
Thank you to any kind of software.
Agree 100%
I am curious why people aren't building their own I can build a 48 volt 315 AH LiFePO4 battery for about $1,600 pluse $200 +/- for a BMS - am I missing something? I am in the process of doing this now (with 2 EG4 6000XP) - I hope I am not missing something obvious
Micro Investors surviving on top my roof or string inverter living in my garage. Electronics do not like heat. Is it easier to replace one inverter in my garage or each individual micro inverter on my roof? Buy a good quilty string inverter and dont complicate the system.
House battery - what a colossal waste of money. Why not force EV OEM to make EVs bidirectional? For those 1 or 2 times a year that electricity goes out the 75kW battery in vehicle should hold you over for couple days.
13.9kw system he's lying
He has enphase iq8m micro inverteres
Maximum continuous 325 x 43 panels 13.9kw
"Net zero"? Lol, why would I want to be net zero? There's the lowest parts per million CO2 in the atmosphere than there's been perhaps for millions of years. We need more CO2, not less.
He means electricity net zero. Generating as much kWh as he consumes.
Copying everything from “Undecided”. Really! Wish you had made a higher contribution.
He picked the most expensive garbage option xD