Spindle Thread Protector - Internal Thread & Indexing
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In todays project we'll be making a thread protector for a threaded spindle nose.
Starting with a piece of 304 stainless steel, the work will involve operations on both the manual lathe and the milling machine.
On the lathe, we'll do basic turning, and facing operations, as well as boring and internal single point threading of a 1-3/4" by 8tpi UNC 60 degree V thread.
On the milling machine, the part will be held in the Hardinge dividing fixture using a 5/8" arbor, and will be indexed every 15 degrees to create knurled features using a carbide ball nose end mill.
A huge THANK YOU for watching, and to all of the support that you've shown to me and this channel.
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My Lathe: MSC / Prince 9517350 - 13x40 Manual Metal Lathe
My Milling Machine: Bridgeport Variable Speed Series 1 "J Head"
Who am I?
I'm a hobby machinist, with a passion for old machine tools and manual machining.
I am here to share and learn.
Being self taught, much of my limited knowledge, has come from others sharing their experiences online, just as I am doing now.
My hope, is that by putting my work in front of much more knowledgeable machinists, we can all learn something new together.
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I just went to buy my first lathe and ended up buying an entire single hand machine shop. So videos like yours help me get through some of these huge hurdles I have to jump going from no experience to owning several lathes, knee mill, surface grinder... etc.
Fun as FuG though!!! I feel better than all the other men around me now. It's super weird. Lol.
Ok, first off lemme just say that's AWESOME! Way to dive in head first lol. You're gonna have a blast with all those machines. It really means a ton to hear that my vids are helping you out. I've benefited so much from others who've come before me, so it's the best feeling in the world to hear that, so thank you. And yeah, nothing beats the satisfaction in being able to create something from nothing using your head, hands, and tools. I firmly believe that's what we are wired to do, so when you start doing it, it just feels "right". Thanks again, for the feedback and for watching, and I hope to see you on the next one!
Disregard...I just saw your reply down below. Great machining skills. It's a pleasure watching you work.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the kind words. And thank you for watching! hope to see you on the next one!
Thanks for the video, the idea, and your talents and knowledge. I have a LeBlond 13" Regal with a threaded spindle. I'd like to make one of these for it. It's also a good excuse to get a dividing head for my mill.😊
Thanks very much for watching! And anytime I can help with an excuse to buy more tools, I've done my job... 😂
Great job man! I love your work! I love how you explain things. When I first started with machining I was just trying to figure things out the best I could. There are simple things that we do to align pieces in the spindle and stuff that guys would just expect other guys to know but sometimes the simple things are overlooked because we already know them and just assume everyone knows them as well. I was watching Blondihacks and she explained little tips the same way because not everyone knows all the tricks. If you could do a video with like top 5 or 10 tips you have that would be great! Thank you! Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that! Comments like yours make it all worth it. A favorite tips video is a great idea. I'll put some thought into that idea, thank you! And thank you very much for watching!
that nose protector looks a lot better than the 1 7/8 -8 tpi nut I bought for my 13" South Bend....well done
Thanks very much! It was a fun little project, with a gratifying result. Id recommend giving it shot if you're looking for a weekend project and want to replace the nut. And thank you for watching!
Good job, thank you for sharing! 👍👍👍
Thanks very much, and thank you for watching!
Hersch - Two thumbs up. -- Jim
Thanks very much!
very nice-looking part.
Thank you very much!
That came out real nice
Thanks very much!
Nice looking part.
Thank you!
enjoyed very much thank you
Thank you for watching!
perfect job
Thank you so much!
Just found your channel, love it!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're here!
Nice job
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching you make this project I have never seen a turning tool like the one you have😊
You are very welcome, thank YOU for watching! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! It's a WNMG style insert btw. :)
have tried threading with reverse feed? it eliminates any worries about running into the chuck, or the part, and doesn't require any gut-wrenching stopping of the feed... reverse threading is used on some precision lathe threading attachments, too....
I've seen Joe Pie's video about it, but I haven't actually tried it yet. I need to practice it on some scrap before I'd feel comfortable trying it mid project, know what I mean. And I always think about it, mid project... lol But great suggestion, thank you!
Thx for the vid.
Thank you for watching!
How do you make it look that easy? Truly an inspiration. I'm so glad you share your experience with us all. ❤️
You're too kind! Thank you!
You're doing a fantastic job on these videos. Beautiful and tightly edited videography wrapped with just the perfect amount of pleasant and useful narration. Thank you! And the part came out nice too 👍👍😎👍👍
Thank you SO much! I've been working hard on learning the video editing stuff so I REALLY appreciate that! I really do appreciate the feedback btw, it helps a lot, I'm learning every day and trying to get better with every one! And most of all, thank YOU for watching!
Great videography and narration.. very enjoyable!
Thank you so much!
NICE! Now I want to go out and remake one for my Atlas lathe. I made my original back when I first set up the lathe a couple years ago-it was one of the first things I made. I used 6061 aluminum and just did a standard cross-hatch knurl. Mine is functional but this one looks so much better!
I'm a new subscriber but am liking the channel-keep up the excellent work.
Thank you so much! Thank you for subscribing and I'll keep em coming! And you definitely should, this was a fun project, I bet you'll enjoy the process.
Great video! Enjoyed watching it
Thank you!
Awesome as usual Hersch!
Thank you so much!
That turned out fine but as others have said i would have just used the first one and just cut slightly deeper.
Looking at your dial calipers, the Mitutoyo ones can be reset to zero. Depending on style it is a very simple and quick to achieve, just by coincidence i have a video on doing it for one particular type.😊
Thanks very much! And I think you're at least the second person to say something about my dial calipers lol. I still have no idea what's wrong them, they seem to work fine for me? 😂 Thanks again!
I've heard some pretty pointed criticism of 304 but you've got it working there.
It can be a bear to work with, but so long as you remember it's quirks and take your time it can give a nice result. Thank you very much, and thank you for watching!
Nice job. I love stainless. It's working it that sucks. Curious though. The first part looked like it had enough meat on it to just clean up those unimpressive flutes. I was surprised when you rejected it and started from scratch..
Wakodahatchee Chris
Thanks very much! And yeah, it's tough to work with but sure does give a great result if you can get it right. The other part might have been salvageable? But seeing as I was making this for someone else, I figured the best thing to do was to just start over using the lessons learned and make the best part possible. If I'd have been making it for myself, I might have considered trying to salvage it. Thanks for watching!
@@hersch_tool I gave you a thumbs UP for that reply. I forgot this was not a personal project. In retrospect, I hope I would have done the same thing. It certainly paid off! 🖖👍
@@cdrive5757 Thanks very much! I really do appreciate the feedback and always enjoy valid questions, suggestions, etc. so keep em coming! cheers.
I scrubbed through the entire video and didn't see it actually in-use once. Did I miss it?
I believe he explains it and shows it around 1:22
Ah, someone with the same mindset... The quality of the part is most important... Material choice is dictated by the part, not the scrap bin :P tho i get some deviations from that rule in case of single use things or non-critical stuff...
Nice work btw!
Also, consider making a morse weldon adapter for a few center drills... make the fit as tight as possible, mill a slight spotface for the brass tipped setscrew to act against and arm your cabinet with those... Make a few for other size drills.... Just get a 3mm hard milling 65hrc+ cutter and it will work for all the drills... You can even insert a drill, and come down at an angle that will not put a square spotface and hole in the holder and the drill, but a sideways one, that will only be great for preventing the rotation of the drill in one side, as drills are single direction anyway... you drill through the holder, touch the shank of the drill in the holder, extract the drill, spotface it in the same place the drill cut into and voila, a rigid, quick change drill system... Its a bit of work, but when you have them, it makes the drill chucks seem primitive in a way, and demanding of too much effort for most things... You often want to put a center in a part, and the center drill is rarely in the chuck, so you have to get the chuck, get the drill, socket the chuck in the taper and chuck up a drill before you can work... With the adapters, its a single plucking from the cabinet and into the tailstock she goes... It also negates the chance for a drill to spin in a chuck, ruining the shank of the drill and thus rendering it even less precise than your average brand new drill bit... And it beats using a collet chuck in the tailstock on a galactic scale, merely from the efficacy standpoint...
All the best and kind regards!
Haha, agreed! And yeah I'll also dive into the scrap bin and use "whatever" if it's not super important. And it's funny you mention that, I actually have an mt2 adapter like you're describing and was just recently looking at it and thinking that I'd like to make another with an mt3 shank and maybe a set of bushings or something to accept different size center drills. And thank you!
@@hersch_tool
Yeah, the good ol` scrap bin... The least well treated piece in the shop, yet one that is often the giver of gifts you could not even hope for otherwise... Sure, its like finding money in your own clothes not worn for a while, but it`s always a pleasure digging out the perfect piece for the job...
Regarding the drill adapters, yeah, those things are marvelous... I mean, there is a good reason why even medium sized drills come with Morse shanks since the dawn of modern machining(pre-cnc, i mean the grandfather era of modern works... Line shafts age and mangled workers turned into meat pies age...)... It`s mostly the complex of rigidity, ease of use and reliability that rendered the larger dills into morse shank drills, not the issues of handling a large drill chuck needed to grip the large shank... Why not apply the same logic and qualities to a smaller drill, especially when you rarely use the massive ones...
Its quite interesting to notice the cosmic giggle when you contemplate something, only to see or be told of the same thing - without any possible explanation of algorithms and cookies and what not being involved...
All the best and kind regards!
@@camillosteuss Haha, yep. One might even contemplate the fact that we've somehow made it this far without algorithms and cookies... And you know what they say, great minds and all that... ;)
cool video, that part looks great. What lathe was that for? That MSC Lathe is awesome by the way
Thanks very much! I think it's for a Sheldon lathe. And thanks, the MSC lathe is great, I'm very happy with it. There are some things I want to improve and "refine" over time, but it's a solid machine with good features. I rescued it from a gentleman who had used it very little, but had somehow managed to abuse it very much during that use lol, and then had left it neglected to sit and rust for over a decade. I like to think it's getting a better life now lol. 🤣
That's exactly how I feel about my lathe too. @@hersch_tool
I'm wondering...instead of scrapping the whole first part, why not try to just cut the knurls a tad deeper with a finishing pass?
That's what I personally would've done to save a big expensive chunk of stainless! Lol
Lol, yeah it does sting a bit... But hopefully that piece will turn out to be just the right size for something in the future. I can dream right? haha
Take off the first part of the thread (with a small die grinder) on either side untill it reaches full width, as as customary in cases like this.
Great call! I did end up doing exactly that! Thanks!