@@azertyuiop5503 These Gas/Nitrox filled dampers are used to prevent foaming of the damping oil, so that the efficiency of the shock absorber remains constant throughout. The canister is used to be filled with pressurized Nitrogen gas, which further act as reservoir for both oil and Nitrogen gas. That's the first google result.
Coil shock looks like a walmart shock to me lol. Funny how the "upgrades" in the mtb world are more just sidegrades. Wait till you hear about 2030s new prototype 2xfront sprocket setup so you can switch from high to low without going through 10 gears on the back...
idk if that spring is the right size, they are supossed to be longer so you can compress it to make it harder but this one is almost full compressed to fit properly
@@sapo229 what the hell are you talking about, im sitting right next to my enduro with Ohlins damper and it looks almost the same. If the spring was longer it would bottom out all the time.
@@sapo229 The longer the spring the more linear damping becomes. You need stiffer coil then so you dont end up on 50% sag with 2 turns of maximum preload recommended for every coil shock. If he is more keen on jumps then this length is ok for more progressive work. Thats why you have much longer coils on downhill bikes. Less pop and more grip.
I personally prefer Hazet or Gedore, their torque wrenches still offer excellent quality but cost less than Wera. Wera is good but some stuff they sell is too expensive for what you get even compared with other German tool brands
@@thecountryog the shock is for his weight and bike no need to add preload if it's the right size shock, plus adding preload takes away the sensible filling coil shocks offer
@kinkaid25 Marzocchi is pretty much like fox and this one is definetly a milion times better than 100 euros rockshox deluxe select. Also there are just many benefits of switching out air for a coil if you for example jump a ton on your bike or do a lot of gnarly terrain.
@@maxmtb12you could potentially bottom out the coil before the actual shock bottoms out.... There are probably specs listet for the max travel of the spring itself and that should be matched to the travel of the damper.(NOT the travel of the rear wheel)
I have a canyon spectral too, I thought I read somewhere that it’s bad for the bike somehow (the linkages maybe?) to change out the air shock for a coil. It seems like some bs to me, does anyone know about this? This is my dream upgrade pls help.
Air shock are thicker and this support the Frame better. Coil shocks only have that thin stanchion supporting the frame, while air shocks have a much thicker stanchion. I own a canyon spectral as well and immune came with a coil. However it was purchased this year so previous year frames may not work. The suspension manufacturers have what bikes to avoid coils on their websites.
It's not bad for the frame, but for the coil shock itself. Check out snapped coil shock stanchions on Google. Most of them happen on horizontally mounted shocks like the Canyon Spectral and Spez Stumpjumper.
It's not a matter of horizontal or vertical mounted. What you have to avoid is using a coil with an extender link like on the Stumpjumper. For that an air shock is needed. You can now buy the 2023 Spectral Mullet which only comes with coil.
Remember when a coil shock was a sign of a cheap bike. Pepperidge farm remembers.
I mean it still can be a sign, low-mid range bikes like the ibis ripmo af can still come stock with it, as well as a bunch of Walmart bikes
@@fate4538that’s not a shock tho those are springs with no use
@@RohithIntrestEmporium they have a use, but just not much
Yup
@@fate4538so same thing?
Nice upgrade. I'd love to try to rebuild one of those Fox shox. You got plans for it?
Theres nitrogen or some other inside, you can only clean the air chamber.
@@009Daft600you Can put oxygen
@@azertyuiop5503 absolutely not
@@azertyuiop5503 These Gas/Nitrox filled dampers are used to prevent foaming of the damping oil, so that the efficiency of the shock absorber remains constant throughout. The canister is used to be filled with pressurized Nitrogen gas, which further act as reservoir for both oil and Nitrogen gas.
That's the first google result.
@@009Daft600 "absolutely not" 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Ripped the paint straight off the linkage
The old shock did that and the new one will to
Nothing's perfect in this tiny world
Ikr, somebody arrest this guy
I'm usually not happy about the first scratch on new bike but after that they are battle scars 😂
Who cares dude, when it gets ridden even more paint will get scratched off. Big whoop.
Вот это монтаж, сначала аморт с пружиной, потом снимают аморт без пружины и ставят такой же как был в первом кадре))
Once you've gone coil there's no going back 😂
That's exactly why I ride Enduro HARDTAILS 😂😂😂
Gotta love Wera tools!
idk why, but the coil shock looks cooler than the earlier one
Coil shock looks like a walmart shock to me lol. Funny how the "upgrades" in the mtb world are more just sidegrades. Wait till you hear about 2030s new prototype 2xfront sprocket setup so you can switch from high to low without going through 10 gears on the back...
I love to see fellow marzocchi bpmber cr users
Yo that's fire bro
🔥🤘
idk if that spring is the right size, they are supossed to be longer so you can compress it to make it harder but this one is almost full compressed to fit properly
Its good size. Its much longer than the travel itself look closely.
@@przygodyzmtb it has nothing to do with it compared to the travel it has todo with it compared to the shock total size
@@sapo229 what the hell are you talking about, im sitting right next to my enduro with Ohlins damper and it looks almost the same. If the spring was longer it would bottom out all the time.
@@przygodyzmtb the point of it being longer is so that doesnt happen because you can put preload on it
@@sapo229 The longer the spring the more linear damping becomes. You need stiffer coil then so you dont end up on 50% sag with 2 turns of maximum preload recommended for every coil shock. If he is more keen on jumps then this length is ok for more progressive work. Thats why you have much longer coils on downhill bikes. Less pop and more grip.
First a pivot Commercial, now this valley bike....whats next? Decathlon??😂😂
You can't put a spring on the spectral according to the manufacturer's instructions
Why owner cleans this bike so good but ignores rust and dust behind the screws?
Nice tools!
I know right
Yeah there really nice 🤟
@@maxmtb12 Where really nice?
What brand was the torque wrench?
@@BWT599 Wera
I loved my FOX VAN RC Coil damper, until in 2014, I got my Oehlins TTX 22m......
Awesome, very satisfied, but i can do that 😂
Dupla suspensão
A coluna agradece😅🇧🇷
Nice wera tools 😁👍
Hope have fox dyad rt2 for the same rear suspension
Why is the shock body much longer than the spring?
Looks sweet
I see I'm not the only one interested in that torque wrench.
Que marca de resorte en titanio 200lbs para EXA FORM 290 me recomendarían
It's good bike bro
Feder ist zu kurz
Awww, mtb asmr - so satisfying.
Love it ❤
I preffer shock but this is also nice
Ich würde den Rahmen ja mal vor Korrosion schützen! Ist ja schrecklich Mies
love it all bome dry mounted! wtf!?!
Don’t like the yellow fox style bushings?
You need to service it before installing
Who told you that?
Amezing
How do you remove the bolts suspension holders I can remove only one and the other stays in there I can’t remove it
Your Wera wrench is more expensive then a few of your viewers whole bike my dude
I personally prefer Hazet or Gedore, their torque wrenches still offer excellent quality but cost less than Wera. Wera is good but some stuff they sell is too expensive for what you get even compared with other German tool brands
how to you soften one?
Thats it?! Maybe i need me a coil 😂
What do you do with the shock
How does the spectral runs with a coil?
How many Nm when you put it on frame?
How much
good luck setting the sag
🫨
@@maxmtb12 ?
Do it By feel
@@peti715 i meant he got no space to preload the spring
@@thecountryog the shock is for his weight and bike no need to add preload if it's the right size shock, plus adding preload takes away the sensible filling coil shocks offer
They are not happy with their air shock and we are not happy with a our front coil shock😢
You seal this mtb
What does it do?
What tool is that, it looks like a one tool does it all
Its 2 different wera wrenches.... One torqe wrench and a special rachet... Just search fir the exact ones on their webside
This seems to be only a spring change. Right?
@kinkaid25 Marzocchi is pretty much like fox and this one is definetly a milion times better than 100 euros rockshox deluxe select. Also there are just many benefits of switching out air for a coil if you for example jump a ton on your bike or do a lot of gnarly terrain.
can upgrade also spectral 125 ? rfrom 125 to 140mm ?
Model of coil?
How much is it ?
Price
maybe put some grease on those bolts
We did we don't have time to show everything we do in a 30-second video
what bolt?
Coil's too short
You sure about that?
@maxmtb12 yes the preload collar was maxed out
What's the need for the preload collar if the shock size was measured correctly for the rider's weight and bike
@@maxmtb12 Probably yes, need a 2.8".coil. This is a 230mm eye to eye shock. The 2,45" stroke coil it's for 200mm eye to eye shock.. now you know.
@@maxmtb12you could potentially bottom out the coil before the actual shock bottoms out.... There are probably specs listet for the max travel of the spring itself and that should be matched to the travel of the damper.(NOT the travel of the rear wheel)
What brand is your torque wrench?
Wera tools
Lo único impresionante es la herramienta que tiene eso si es increhible , el resto naaaa
Marzocchi.... isnt a type of pasta ..... or spaghetti?
Maybe🤔
400x2.45 ? why ? 267mm =400х3.50
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I have a canyon spectral too, I thought I read somewhere that it’s bad for the bike somehow (the linkages maybe?) to change out the air shock for a coil. It seems like some bs to me, does anyone know about this? This is my dream upgrade pls help.
Air shock are thicker and this support the Frame better. Coil shocks only have that thin stanchion supporting the frame, while air shocks have a much thicker stanchion. I own a canyon spectral as well and immune came with a coil. However it was purchased this year so previous year frames may not work. The suspension manufacturers have what bikes to avoid coils on their websites.
It's not bad for the frame, but for the coil shock itself. Check out snapped coil shock stanchions on Google. Most of them happen on horizontally mounted shocks like the Canyon Spectral and Spez Stumpjumper.
It's not a matter of horizontal or vertical mounted. What you have to avoid is using a coil with an extender link like on the Stumpjumper. For that an air shock is needed.
You can now buy the 2023 Spectral Mullet which only comes with coil.
Beder Fox Kașima❤❤❤
giusto un ammortizzatore serio
He sold his liver
If he did he would have gotten a nicer shock
ok🤘🙏👍
Mai bahut Gareeb hoon mujhe ek cycle do
Ameizin
Easy
wiat is the Canyon model
Spectral
😮❤
अगर आप में दम है तो एक साइकिल मुझको भी दो नई हो वह भी फ्री में
Canyon👎🏻
Asmr 🤢🤢🤢
Depressurized?
no,it takes longer...
Hu