Typhon style polysynth under 1k would be amazing indeed! I mean there was this murmux recently, but it was huge and not exactly cheap :) I have both typhon and nymphes and they are lovely
So you just had a faulty unit and decided to go full on hating a company. Seems a bit unfair but maybe the views you get from those catchy thumbnails and titles, make it worth
@@jumpingman8160I'm sorry for gatekeeping people who can't be arsed to watch a 13 minute video before deciding to be a simp for a billion dollar corporation. I will try to learn and grow from this experience.
@@mikecerame9008All these companies are worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they all manufacture in China. Probably come out of the same factories just like all the Foxconn phones. How people don't see how the game works is beyond me.
I lost the little respect I had for Behringer when they decided to troll an individual to the point of even doing a fake prototype product with the sole purpose of making fun of said person. Imagine if all the effort they invested into harrassing one person was focused towards QC....
SynthSamurai is on record for attacking Weaver Beats for his support on Peter Kirn and something that happened with Ewa Justka. If anyone knows the actual story, PK was sticking up for his friends who are apart of the LGBTXXXX community. SynthSamurai has attacked PK for the defense of his friends and doesn't understand the whole story what went on and why Ewa got cancelled. He was attacking Weaver for support of PK, something along the lines of that. There is no room for bullying, discrimination, gaslighting, marginalization or w/e you can think of when it comes to music, social media or one's wellbeing. These toxic individuals who think they can do as they please and also support Uli's incessant attacks on individuals only shows that the music arena has now become politically based, rather than a creative field. Uli and his supporters should knock off the BS and just get on with making gear that people will actually buy because their is no drama associated with it.
I’m out here line cooking for Sequentials. I just can’t own a behringer. Ever since their effects pedals, I have not been able to forgive. Maaaaaybe I’d grab the Solina knockoff but. Watch me not.
I don’t own any Behringer products buuuut… I’m not shure it’s all that fair to call out Behringer’s synths for buildquality. You make quite a few statements about the quality of some Sequential instruments epecially the OB6. But lets keep in mind, that the OB6 right now here in EU costs FOUR TIMES AS MUCH😅 as the UB-Xa…and the UB-Xa has polyaftertouch! Yes it’s made in China. But you mention your iPhone. Yes. Do you like Arturia? You like Novation😄 French and UK companies. But the products are made at factories in the far east by people “slaving” for tiny oaychecks. Moog has had circuitboards made in China and installed in US so they can sell it as “Made in USA” for years. The new Moog Muse is made in a factory in Taiwan. But they still charge a made in USA price for the Muse. Which is four times as much as the UB-Xa. Who is cheating who here🤔 Whether or not Uli is a dick or not, I personaly don’t care. Some will say Steve Jobs was an asshole. I don’t care. I stille love my chinese made iPhone and MacBook. Some say Elon Musk is a dick. I don’t care, I still want Tesla when my Ford is worn out. I hope you don’t see this comment as a hater comment. It’s not. I just found your channel (Hydrasynth videos), and I enjoyed those. This is just another view on these matters. Respectfully and best regards😊
I appreciate this a lot and I've said this to people, and what happens is they claim that's gatekeeping hardware. They claim they need hardware, deserve, hardware, and Behringer is the only one who respects them and gives them what they want. I hope this sways a few people, and I believe we need to keep saying these things, but it's super hard to reach some people.
It's kinda difficult to swallow a synth influencer tell you what to boycott, when you're struggling hard just to afford that "cheap" Behringer that's the fraction of just one boutique synths seemingly flowing like a river through said influencer's massive boutique collection. That said, Yuki's attitude specifically, is fine. He's not being demanding, he's making a reasonable suggestion and verbally allowing for people to make up their own mind.
I know a guy who has had 3 Behringer units fail, I might point him to this thread, let him tell his story, but he is none too pleased with the outcome of spending money on a brand that he has now lost as warranty is no longer available. He doesn't have a ton of money, I have known him for a long long time and think it's unfortunate that people are somehow sucked into buying from Behringer and thinking it's all sweet. If it wasn't for companies like Sweetwater or Thomman who really do go above and beyond for CS, there would be a lot more disgruntled customers being stuck with gear that they simply have wasted money on. I don't hate on companies, I just refuse to deal with them and move on, and I actually prefer supporting companies that innovate, not imitate.
When I discovered your channel a few months ago, I was kinda disappointed that you were featuring their products so much. Glad to hear you’re no longer doing that going forward.
7:20 Yes! I have the Abyss, Erebus V3 and Erebus Reissue. I would buy a Nymphes in a heartbeat -- if it had a more knob-per-function interface! I contemplated getting the new Murmux Adept, but ended up with a Peak instead. :)
I don't think most equipment reviewed get played much, certainly new reviews of new products mean there is zero information on long term dependability. Most reviewers are not skilled keyboard musicians, I can tell just by the way they play. Compare this to me pounding away on a digital piano for years practicing my repertoire for solo acoustic piano concerts, and it is a night and day difference of dependability. Then there is reviewer skill at design, I kept looking at reviews for the Zoom MS70 CDR effects pedal, a very nice priced pedal, that had reviews all over the place contradicting each other. I had to buy one just to find out if was good. Turns out the presets were horrible for keyboards, but you go in and make your own and the pedal is great. So, for keyboards, recording, it is a great product for the price in that particular use, and I ran the pedal through aux loops on a mixer instead of DI-ing synths into it. That is our structure of RUclips today, even when you watch 50 reviews of the same product, you don't know much.
I have a Behringer Model D since a couple of years back and it´s still great. I had a deepmind and it made a horrible background noise and I sold it, not a good synth. I have mixed feelings about Behringer, some products work very well and some pretty bad.
MY UB-Xa decided to corrupt all settings and patches for no reason... I managed to fix it resetting everything re uploading my patches/soundset running calibration 3 times. Hopefully won't happen again any time 'soon'.
I think my Pro 3 is the best hybrid. But just my opinion. I remain neutral on Behringer, but I don't own anything from them. I hear enough about them to just not take the chance. Sadly, though, they are all actually made in China now, recently, even Moog. My Pro 3 had problems, day one. But they sent me a new main board, and it taken less than 15 minutes to swap it out. I wish it was that easy to repair my MOTIF, it taken 6 hours to repair a broken key on it. I literally had to take the whole thing apart to fix a key. I looked at my Pro 3 when I have it apart, and everything comes apart easily (it's a Pro 3 Special Editionm, BTW). I'm now eyeballing the Oberheim Teo 5.
Not yet, so I was a 90ies kid and really into jungle and trackers but got really burned out of it. I will say I often wanted to buy a tracker but yeah just haven’t.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon The Tracker+ is certainly good for Jungle/breakbeat stuff but I find it pretty useful for whatever genre I want to throw at it. I find using it as a polysynth surprisingly fun and useful if you can get over the fact that the synth engines are not quite as tweakable as something like the take5.
To me, the worst part of Behringer gear has not been the build quality, but the sound....they sound way less like the things they clone than online videos will have you believe. I have had more bad experiences than good. Surprisingly, the MK1 RD-8 sounds great to me....maybe I just got lucky andngot a good unit.....but everything else Behringer synth related I have sold for the most part.
I hope I brought that up in my other anti behringer video is that yes, I feel something sounds super off about the 3340 oscillator clone they make. It’s like super buzzy for some reason.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon get 2 PEAKs, I was discussing this with a guy I am getting my UDO S6 from, told him I could have gotten a Summit but it's far too large for my workflow, but he suggested 2 PEAKs is perfect as you have independent surface controls. I almost got another but I think the S6 will play nicely along side it (price is almost the same as a PEAK).
yuki is very particular about quality. interestingly enough, many of my preferences parallel his, especially the hate for spring reverbs and which synths he likes. i am not as picky obviously and i do disagree with much of his vitriol towards behr. but i am also pretty much done with behr because all that old rehashed stuff is boring and redundant, not because 5 of my 10 behr products fvcked up. yamaha and roland never fvck up i have been jamming the take5+gaia2 mostly and i am digging how much sonic territory they cover.
@@dankeplace synth samurai is a good guy. he is inviting yuki because he respects him and wants a behringer conversation. i think he is trying to enhance rather than steal. listen chief, i may disagree with him on behringer build quality, but he is still a good guy.
@@jjrusy7438 no he isn't a good guy, he is a bottom feeder, he steals other people's content and does not credit them, which means he takes away traffic from the content creator, he also disparages other content creators. Go look on GS what he has tried to do, it's utter cringe. Nothing he does is original, he always needs click bait titles which is disingenuous too.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Such a shame it´s only a limited release like that. I do like dreadbox and would love to try the nymph, but sadly i´m very bad with hidden menus. With complex hidden menus I don´t stand a chance...
I loathe Behringer with every fiber of my being. Uli is awful. He’s done so many terrible things. I don’t judge people who use their gear. But they have been awful to others. And to any talking about the virtues of affordable gear, Korg, Dreadbox and Roland and Erica all make affordable gear without being awful companies. Behringer is the worst.
I do too...but I couldn't resist getting a MonoPoly yesterday, but I bought used....so I mean, that is not directly supporting them. I am a person who can separate the art from the artist....I still listen to Michael Jackson even though....yeah....not a fan of the man, but I am the music, and I can separate the two...but I dont judge people who dont feel like how I do. I also bought an old DSI synth too, my second Mopho x4 so I can polychain them.
What Behringer is doing is a race towards the bottom for everyone. Innovation and quality have a cost, it's just the unfortunate reality. Supporting Behringer just undermines innovation and quality in the hardware synth space in the long run.
What Behringer are doing is opening hardware up to a much bigger market. Everyone’s a winner in my book. Not everyone interested in getting a hardware synth is going to drop £1500 first time around. But they might 2nd or 3rd time around.
I own 4 behringer synths (UBXA, Poly D, Pro 800 & VS) they’ve all been amazing. I support Behringer because they go against the gate keepers of music gear. They allow the common man to have access to these instruments.
Typhon style polysynth under 1k would be amazing indeed! I mean there was this murmux recently, but it was huge and not exactly cheap :) I have both typhon and nymphes and they are lovely
So you just had a faulty unit and decided to go full on hating a company. Seems a bit unfair but maybe the views you get from those catchy thumbnails and titles, make it worth
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.
You clearly didn’t watch my video and just wanted to chime in with something useful.
@@jumpingman8160I'm sorry for gatekeeping people who can't be arsed to watch a 13 minute video before deciding to be a simp for a billion dollar corporation. I will try to learn and grow from this experience.
@@jumpingman8160 So is bias bad or are you allowed to discount people's opinions wholecloth for being queer? Both can't be true, sweetie.
@@mikecerame9008All these companies are worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they all manufacture in China. Probably come out of the same factories just like all the Foxconn phones. How people don't see how the game works is beyond me.
I lost the little respect I had for Behringer when they decided to troll an individual to the point of even doing a fake prototype product with the sole purpose of making fun of said person. Imagine if all the effort they invested into harrassing one person was focused towards QC....
Uli is a man child, it’s not surprising. But yes they could have so much potential if they just stopped sucking.
SynthSamurai is on record for attacking Weaver Beats for his support on Peter Kirn and something that happened with Ewa Justka.
If anyone knows the actual story, PK was sticking up for his friends who are apart of the LGBTXXXX community.
SynthSamurai has attacked PK for the defense of his friends and doesn't understand the whole story what went on and why Ewa got cancelled.
He was attacking Weaver for support of PK, something along the lines of that.
There is no room for bullying, discrimination, gaslighting, marginalization or w/e you can think of when it comes to music, social media or one's wellbeing.
These toxic individuals who think they can do as they please and also support Uli's incessant attacks on individuals only shows that the music arena has now become politically based, rather than a creative field.
Uli and his supporters should knock off the BS and just get on with making gear that people will actually buy because their is no drama associated with it.
I’m out here line cooking for Sequentials.
I just can’t own a behringer. Ever since their effects pedals, I have not been able to forgive.
Maaaaaybe I’d grab the Solina knockoff but. Watch me not.
I don’t own any Behringer products buuuut…
I’m not shure it’s all that fair to call out Behringer’s synths for buildquality. You make quite a few statements about the quality of some Sequential instruments epecially the OB6.
But lets keep in mind, that the OB6 right now here in EU costs FOUR TIMES AS MUCH😅 as the UB-Xa…and the UB-Xa has polyaftertouch!
Yes it’s made in China. But you mention your iPhone. Yes.
Do you like Arturia? You like Novation😄
French and UK companies. But the products are made at factories in the far east by people “slaving” for tiny oaychecks.
Moog has had circuitboards made in China and installed in US so they can sell it as “Made in USA” for years.
The new Moog Muse is made in a factory in Taiwan. But they still charge a made in USA price for the Muse. Which is four times as much as the UB-Xa.
Who is cheating who here🤔
Whether or not Uli is a dick or not, I personaly don’t care. Some will say Steve Jobs was an asshole. I don’t care. I stille love my chinese made iPhone and MacBook.
Some say Elon Musk is a dick. I don’t care, I still want Tesla when my Ford is worn out.
I hope you don’t see this comment as a hater comment. It’s not. I just found your channel (Hydrasynth videos), and I enjoyed those.
This is just another view on these matters.
Respectfully and best regards😊
Sometimes the old adage is true “you get what you pay for”
I appreciate this a lot and I've said this to people, and what happens is they claim that's gatekeeping hardware. They claim they need hardware, deserve, hardware, and Behringer is the only one who respects them and gives them what they want.
I hope this sways a few people, and I believe we need to keep saying these things, but it's super hard to reach some people.
Thanks for the kind words ! As an aside I really love your content and that you are a fellow LGBT synth tuber. Also Instinct is a banger.
It's kinda difficult to swallow a synth influencer tell you what to boycott, when you're struggling hard just to afford that "cheap" Behringer that's the fraction of just one boutique synths seemingly flowing like a river through said influencer's massive boutique collection. That said, Yuki's attitude specifically, is fine. He's not being demanding, he's making a reasonable suggestion and verbally allowing for people to make up their own mind.
@@jumpingman8160What does it explain?
@@jumpingman8160 what? How? Does Behringer as a company denounce bisexuality?
@@jumpingman8160 so how does the RUclipsr being LGBT “explain it” than?
I know a guy who has had 3 Behringer units fail, I might point him to this thread, let him tell his story, but he is none too pleased with the outcome of spending money on a brand that he has now lost as warranty is no longer available.
He doesn't have a ton of money, I have known him for a long long time and think it's unfortunate that people are somehow sucked into buying from Behringer and thinking it's all sweet.
If it wasn't for companies like Sweetwater or Thomman who really do go above and beyond for CS, there would be a lot more disgruntled customers being stuck with gear that they simply have wasted money on.
I don't hate on companies, I just refuse to deal with them and move on, and I actually prefer supporting companies that innovate, not imitate.
When I discovered your channel a few months ago, I was kinda disappointed that you were featuring their products so much. Glad to hear you’re no longer doing that going forward.
Thanks for this video! I'm relieved that i havent dipped my toes into Behringer products. I've also had an amazing experience with Sweetwater so far.
Argh am I gonna have to get rid of my pro 800 now... Really enjoy using that synth
Nah just keep it and use it, it’s not a bad synth. If it’s working for you then great.
If you’ve already bought it, unloading it in protest is kind of useless as they now have your money.
7:20 Yes! I have the Abyss, Erebus V3 and Erebus Reissue. I would buy a Nymphes in a heartbeat -- if it had a more knob-per-function interface! I contemplated getting the new Murmux Adept, but ended up with a Peak instead. :)
Ya dude. OB-6is gonna slap. That’s the next one. Then I’ll have all three
Feel ya bro.
Most Beringer review videos I see, the hosts begins with "Hi Uli, please don't sue me.". 🤣😂🤣😂
I don't think most equipment reviewed get played much, certainly new reviews of new products mean there is zero information on long term dependability. Most reviewers are not skilled keyboard musicians, I can tell just by the way they play. Compare this to me pounding away on a digital piano for years practicing my repertoire for solo acoustic piano concerts, and it is a night and day difference of dependability.
Then there is reviewer skill at design, I kept looking at reviews for the Zoom MS70 CDR effects pedal, a very nice priced pedal, that had reviews all over the place contradicting each other. I had to buy one just to find out if was good. Turns out the presets were horrible for keyboards, but you go in and make your own and the pedal is great. So, for keyboards, recording, it is a great product for the price in that particular use, and I ran the pedal through aux loops on a mixer instead of DI-ing synths into it.
That is our structure of RUclips today, even when you watch 50 reviews of the same product, you don't know much.
OB-6 and Trigon-6 are made by the same manufacturer (the only one Sequential uses in the US), from most of the same parts, FYI
I have a Behringer Model D since a couple of years back and it´s still great. I had a deepmind and it made a horrible background noise and I sold it, not a good synth. I have mixed feelings about Behringer, some products work very well and some pretty bad.
MY UB-Xa decided to corrupt all settings and patches for no reason... I managed to fix it resetting everything re uploading my patches/soundset running calibration 3 times. Hopefully won't happen again any time 'soon'.
Just bought the Peak 👍🏻👍🏻
Same, great module, love it, I am shocked I went so long without one, no my fav synth but it's a great work horse and has an immediate UI.
I think my Pro 3 is the best hybrid. But just my opinion. I remain neutral on Behringer, but I don't own anything from them. I hear enough about them to just not take the chance. Sadly, though, they are all actually made in China now, recently, even Moog. My Pro 3 had problems, day one. But they sent me a new main board, and it taken less than 15 minutes to swap it out. I wish it was that easy to repair my MOTIF, it taken 6 hours to repair a broken key on it. I literally had to take the whole thing apart to fix a key. I looked at my Pro 3 when I have it apart, and everything comes apart easily (it's a Pro 3 Special Editionm, BTW). I'm now eyeballing the Oberheim Teo 5.
Have you tried any of the newer polyend stuff with the synth engines? (Play+, Tracker+/mini) I find them quite good for how much those units cost.
Not yet, so I was a 90ies kid and really into jungle and trackers but got really burned out of it. I will say I often wanted to buy a tracker but yeah just haven’t.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon The Tracker+ is certainly good for Jungle/breakbeat stuff but I find it pretty useful for whatever genre I want to throw at it. I find using it as a polysynth surprisingly fun and useful if you can get over the fact that the synth engines are not quite as tweakable as something like the take5.
Behringer is my kind of garbage 🧡
To me, the worst part of Behringer gear has not been the build quality, but the sound....they sound way less like the things they clone than online videos will have you believe. I have had more bad experiences than good. Surprisingly, the MK1 RD-8 sounds great to me....maybe I just got lucky andngot a good unit.....but everything else Behringer synth related I have sold for the most part.
I hope I brought that up in my other anti behringer video is that yes, I feel something sounds super off about the 3340 oscillator clone they make. It’s like super buzzy for some reason.
Have the Summit and its amazing! Would totally say if you need desktop version, peak is perfect! :)
I wish they would make a summit desktop. I just don’t have room for it. It’s so lovely given 2 peaks and a fatar keybed.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon get 2 PEAKs, I was discussing this with a guy I am getting my UDO S6 from, told him I could have gotten a Summit but it's far too large for my workflow, but he suggested 2 PEAKs is perfect as you have independent surface controls.
I almost got another but I think the S6 will play nicely along side it (price is almost the same as a PEAK).
If you wanna come on the THAT SYNTH SHOW and tell your story hit me up.
Probability 0% 😂
yuki is very particular about quality. interestingly enough, many of my preferences parallel his, especially the hate for spring reverbs and which synths he likes. i am not as picky obviously and i do disagree with much of his vitriol towards behr. but i am also pretty much done with behr because all that old rehashed stuff is boring and redundant, not because 5 of my 10 behr products fvcked up. yamaha and roland never fvck up i have been jamming the take5+gaia2 mostly and i am digging how much sonic territory they cover.
Why are you trying to leech his subs for?
@@dankeplace synth samurai is a good guy. he is inviting yuki because he respects him and wants a behringer conversation. i think he is trying to enhance rather than steal. listen chief, i may disagree with him on behringer build quality, but he is still a good guy.
@@jjrusy7438 no he isn't a good guy, he is a bottom feeder, he steals other people's content and does not credit them, which means he takes away traffic from the content creator, he also disparages other content creators.
Go look on GS what he has tried to do, it's utter cringe.
Nothing he does is original, he always needs click bait titles which is disingenuous too.
The Novation Peak, and complaining about build quality. 🤣
I have had 2 with no issues
Dreadbox nymph with better controlls, isn´t the murmux just like that?
It’s way out of the price range of most people and it’s also a limited release. I mainly meant an affordable unit.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon Such a shame it´s only a limited release like that.
I do like dreadbox and would love to try the nymph, but sadly i´m very bad with hidden menus. With complex hidden menus I don´t stand a chance...
I loathe Behringer with every fiber of my being. Uli is awful. He’s done so many terrible things. I don’t judge people who use their gear. But they have been awful to others. And to any talking about the virtues of affordable gear, Korg, Dreadbox and Roland and Erica all make affordable gear without being awful companies. Behringer is the worst.
I do too...but I couldn't resist getting a MonoPoly yesterday, but I bought used....so I mean, that is not directly supporting them. I am a person who can separate the art from the artist....I still listen to Michael Jackson even though....yeah....not a fan of the man, but I am the music, and I can separate the two...but I dont judge people who dont feel like how I do.
I also bought an old DSI synth too, my second Mopho x4 so I can polychain them.
ALL those companies are FAR
worse in every way than behringer.
So will you keep the Mono Poly?
Sold it a while back.
@@YukiTheSynthDragon That one might be the most interesting, yet also not really flawless.
What Behringer is doing is a race towards the bottom for everyone. Innovation and quality have a cost, it's just the unfortunate reality. Supporting Behringer just undermines innovation and quality in the hardware synth space in the long run.
What Behringer are doing is opening hardware up to a much bigger market. Everyone’s a winner in my book.
Not everyone interested in getting a hardware synth is going to drop £1500 first time around. But they might 2nd or 3rd time around.
Exactly
I own 4 behringer synths (UBXA, Poly D, Pro 800 & VS) they’ve all been amazing. I support Behringer because they go against the gate keepers of music gear. They allow the common man to have access to these instruments.
I flat out refuse to buy any Behringer products now that they allegedly use slave labor