@@JronDon854 that would depend on the person. I don’t post content so I’m not getting feedback, Jesse however does post content and reads the comments so it would apply to him
Strong dude! Don't do the sauce as it seems you have an underlying issue with yourself. You think ppl will stop hating if you put on 20 more pounds with the sauce? Come on you aren't that naive.
Those numbers are incredibly impressive. Dude is legit strong. I'm guessing he wants to look bulkier and have more of the show muscles rather than the go muscles. For that I would consider training a bit more like a body builder and less like a power lifter.
Jesse, you realize the same people now who say you haven’t made big gains are the same people who are going to turn around and say none of the steroid gains are yours, or sold out, or otherwise find another way to insult you because they’re jealous!
Jesse, you have the physique that 95% of guys would die for. Your gains are nothing short of jaw dropping. I have watched all of Jeff’s videos and the ones with you are the most fun and relatable!😊. I’m with the majority, remove social media from your life and discover the happiness that action enacts. You are lucky to have an opportunity to be trained by Jeff. I have been trying to sign up with Athlean-x for a long time but spots aren’t available. I’m glad you two are so successful and ignore the haters that SAY they can do things but we don’t KNOW if they can.
Old swimmer here: not worth it. As a retirement ager who has done decades of swimming competitively, I find that I'm competing against ghosts-of-swimming-past. How fast am I compared to when I started competing 49 years ago? Actually, I'm a lot faster. Not the fastest I've ever been, but I'm actually far faster than I was 7 years ago. Compare your own apples to your apples, not to somebody else's oranges.
Definitely possible with the right genetics. Saying otherwise is also delusional. Not talking about myself BTW, unfortunately. But they do exist. I know a few.
@@--SPQR-- yepp. But luck's definitely another factor and people seem to forget (or ignore?) this. One injury and all your plans crumble. And you can't predict or prevent it. It can be the dumbest thing. One wrong step down the stairs, someone bumping into you... I once dislocated my shoulder while getting out of a tight fitting leather jacket. ^^ Another time I stepped into a nail... they had to operate on my foot and I couldn't walk or do anything really for two months.
This video shows another side of Jeff. I've always thought of him as a well-educated and knowledgeable guy, but this shows that he's also a wise and philosophical guy.
Jesse looks so good he’s an official respected and listened to member of the most popular fitness page on RUclips. Man is literally IN the industry and looks like he belongs there. We all compare ourselves to others and I’m sure people compare themselves to Jesse.
Alleluia. Natural is the way. Takes long and hard work needed. Be strong and functional for yourself and for your family. End of story. Screw everybody else.🎉
Jessy is underrated, even in his own mind... He has what millions of others don't... strength, physique, popularity, humor, job and a great friend by his side...
I love how such a father Jeff was in this video. It responds to the crisis of fatherlessness in our culture, where drugs and addictions all numb us of this problem.
Jeff and Jessie, I'm 49 years old and have put on 16 pounds of lean mass in less than a year based on your videos. I'm 6 ft 5 and 210 pounds now vs 194 pounds. I'm very very happy with my progress and my body now after spending too many years just being skinny. Thank you both. Jesse, your transformation is amazing...plain and simple. Social media is a curse and leaves all of us feeling inferior to others. Its not worth it. Dump social media. If you're not a professional athlete and you're considering steroids, you MUST QUESTION how insecure you really are. That goes for all of us measuring ourselves to those exhibiting "perfection" on social media.
Been watching yall for years. This is the most honest and best video yall have ever made. We have all been tempted with this decision. Much respect Jeff for the way u answered not putting anyone down
At the end of the day social media is free. What isn’t is the time and energy you give it. Be mindful what you consume, is it good or evil? Your mind is your temple, how you guard it is your choice.
Jessie, dude, are you serious?? You look f%$kin awesome and have the physique most men would kill for. Don't listen to those who critisize you - they have likely never even stepped into a gym. Keep up the good work and forget all the 'never big enough' mindset. As someone who has been in the gym for over 35 years allow me to assure you you WILL NEVER be big enough, steroids or no steroids. It's the bodybuilder's eternal monkey on the back. Just know that what you don't see, others are admiring.
If I looked half as good as him, I'd be ecstatic. I'm on my way, down nearly 30 pounds since March! People gotta stop comparing themselves to others though.
This is the first time I saw Jesse in about 3 years. I didn't know the comment they read was from him, but to be honest the first thing I thought was "he looks the same as three years ago." Not a bad thing of course, he looks good and a lot of men would be contented to have his body. But if his goal was to get bigger all this time, chances are he is doing something wrong. Perhaps he got stronger, more conditioned etc, and again he looks good already. But if we are talking about hypertrophy, it was never this channel's specialty. If you watch scientists and coaches specializing on getting bigger, and if you read researches on hypertrophy, you will see they radically differ from Jeff's approach towards almost everything: Exercise selection, execution, volume, nutrition, etc. It has nothing to do with steroids. It is obviously and absolutely possible for a young man to get bigger than 165 if he consistently and specifically trains to get bigger for over 5 years, even if he has bad genetics and started at 135 bodyweight.
People that criticize him are jealous because they had to take steroids to get beyond that point but they know they couldn't acheive what he did without steroids. So they invite him to join the steroids users and try to shame him to take that pride from him.
Jesse has a solid body. He has the Hugh Jackman build. He is honestly an inspiration to so many of us who have had the same thought. He’s never going to look like some people out there because of his body but he has shown truly impressive progress, especially in this amount of time. I’ve been watching your journey and if you think about steroids please remember those of us who are watching you who are truly inspired.
Jesse, as someone over 40 here, I can’t explain to you how much your transformation has motivated me. Knowing you can achieve what you did naturally is really inspiring
For real. Jessie needs to learn at least 2/3 of the internet is inhabited by human sewage who exist to weigh others down. Keep your heads up, stay clean.
vaping thc is worse than steriods, and smoking weed is worse than steriods on the heart lungs and stamina. Id rather take steriods than smoke weed, i gotta have something
Jesse, stop listening to the fucktard haters! I got crazy respect for what you have accomplished and how you accomplished it. I'm almost 57 and I've never come close to your PR's. Love you brother
YES!! I find it worse when they see Reacher or a show like that and turn to you say "you work out. How come you don't look like that?" When you say "because he's on steroids", they argue with you.
@@dwaynecunningham2164 hate to be negative back as well, but sometimes I feel like saying lets workout together but the ones that say hegative remarks "never have time or make excuses"
Bro this is so true. I've been working out for over 4 years now. Someone at work who is literally old school friends with ronnie coleman (she called him with me on her cell phone), was like "oh do you like weightlifting? try out protein." I was like wtf, I have like 1-2 shakes per day and FOCUS on protein eery day lmao
Jesse? Seriously? You're an f*ing beast! U have made PHENOMENAL progress! I've been training hard, following the AX programs, for about 5 years, haven't made half the progress u have, & am still.....pleased, for the most part (the #s on the plates haven't gone up much, though 😞 ....mind u, I am turning 60 this year, & I'm sure thats playing a part)
This video is not just about steroids, it's about life and happiness and I'm grateful I watched it. Thanks Jeff, I do face pulls in your honor every back day. Thanks for the face pulls too
People gotta stop listening to unhappy, jealous, miserable people. Jesse has become a beast! Incredible journey that majority of people are jealous of. Be proud of what u have accomplished! Love the videos!
Jesse, those deadlift and squat numbers are insane. Killing it. Side note, I dropped all social media in March. After about a week I kind of forgot about it, and 5 months later I definitely feel so much better, and am not missing anything. Self esteem at an all time high lol.
This is the type of content that makes you guys stand out over other content creators. The honesty and humanity you show in every single video is simply outstanding. I only wish I could upvote more times
0:20 J̶e̶s̶s̶e̶'s question 2:30 Jeff's Strength question 4:35 Jeff's Body question 6:35 Natty virtue 7:55 Anxiety depression 9:10 Your loved ones 11:45 Happiness, Never enough 14:05 When to take Steroid
Hey Jesse! I'm 24 y/o at 5'10 and 112 lbs and just started my gaining journey this month. I just discovered Jeff's channel this week, and seeing your evolution and how much bigger you got was really inspiring to me, and I quite look up to you. Be proud of your work, you look awesome to me (and to pretty much everyone else).
As a slim guy (hard gainer), I've been watching this channel for more than 6 years. Seeing Jessie's transformation has been inspirational. Hold yourself up man! 100,000 positive comments, but our insecurities will make us focus on the toxic 100 negative comments. Forget steroids brother, get a therapist, and transform the mind along with the body 💛. Much love to Athlean X
The negative comments are likely people you wouldn’t want to take advice from anyways in life. You’re killin it dude, keep up the good work. You deadlifted more than me in my prime late 20’s on anabolics. Only person you should compare yourself to as yourself from yesterday. Keep up the good work, man.
I watched a video about Jesse's progress about a year ago. Saw a comment to the effect of "Ha ha, I could put on that much muscle in two weeks", followed shortly by another comment that read, "Obviously you're on steroids". Two polar opposite conclusions drawn from the same information. The first person (likely on steroids) needed to elevate himself by diminishing Jesse's gains. The second needed to justify his own failures by diminishing Jesse's effort. Jesse should be proud that his results came from consistency, hard work and effort and not from a syringe.
Why does everything have to be about size; who wouldn’t rather have the perfect body of a classic boxer, or, for that matter, a classical Greco Roman statue (there are literally hundreds of thousands of examples to see all over Greece and Italy)? That kind of physique is lean, subtle and fits into a suit perfectly. “Thinish” when compared to someone absolutely fixated on bulk but who can’t throw a punch, kick a ball, do a high jump or even hold themselves up on a bar for more than three seconds. So what’s it all for? Certainly NOT aesthetics since I think Michelangelo knew a lot more about male beauty and proportionality than the modern steroid taker.
Great video and so true. Stop comparing to others and focus on earning your true potential through hard work and consistency. Thanks for the message. Jesse you are a beast! Enjoy it because you earned it! 💪
Jesse - The purpose of the AthleanX videos, in large part, have been to help others reach their physical goals - which is great. I have benefited from them greatly. This video is next level. Your openness and transparency will doubtless inspire people to work harder physically, while at the same time have a right/healthy mental focus. The only things this video was missing was inspirational pump-you-up music - because it was so awesome! This is the sort of inspiring video young athletes (...and older athletes) who are navigating though muscle building and what a healthy mental focus is, should be watching. Thank you! Way to have an impact, bro!
I think I'm gonna start. Everyone I know who did it had there life changed massively for the better. They were all nerds that never got any girls. They did one cycle or two and now they all have casual flings with girls that wouldn't even give them a chance otherwise and they were all financial stable dudes beforehand too. Women are so vain. Look at Arnold. His still kicking strong and he blasted copious amounts. I really don't think one or two cycles could really hurt. Problem is I just don't know where to get them from.
So you want to get the attention of women who are attracted to muscle men? What, you want a long term relationship or just dip your wick? I would rather attract a woman who finds me interesting, who enjoys my company and who wants to give me all of herself, and not just her girly bits. And you know what? I did, 37 years ago, and she has chosen to stay with me ever since. Raise the bar, my friend.
Bro honestly even if you do safety you’re essentially gambling your own life. If you deeply research the adverse effects of steroids, you’re putting yourself at risk for so many health issues such as heart attack, heart disease, liver disease, and even infertility. You’re also putting yourself at risk for things you’re genetically at risk for too and God forbid I hope you’re not at risk for any health issues. Stay natty man, it’s not worth to your risk to life to be acknowledged for the short term.
@@LeGoat2003 Dude this stuff is so exagerrated because of people who abuse it. I don't think anyone has ever died from 400mg of Test weekly over 8 weeks. If you abuse anything you will have severe side effects. KFC abuse has killed just as many people due to Obesity. Yeah if you overdo steroids you will get too large to a point it isn't healthy and grow all your organs too large etc. Moderation to anything is key.
My trainer has the right attitude: she told her best friend who told her that he considers taking steroids that for her there is no "good" level of steroids. Either you take them or not. And if you do, she is out. Because she does not want to worry about him dying of heart attack for no reason. We had such cases here in the Czech Republic. She says that noone needs that sh...t and if one is not willing to work hard and be satisfied with what you achieve, one should stop working out. Because as you say, once you go on the slippery slope of drug addiction, nothing is ever enough.
I love the realness and vulnerability of your channel. I can relate to the video, even though, I'm not a guy. It's easier to remember the negative comments. I think depression and anxiety lead us to a desperation that makes us find any way to make them go away. Even if that way won't benefit us. That has been in my experience. I'm still working on my insecurities and increasing my self-esteem. I like that comment that people bash because they wish they could be that person. I think this is the case. If compare Jesse to himself, before and after pictures, he is doing great. And that is all that needs done. I must remember that too, I must not compare my situation to anyone's situation but my own. But I believe we can definitely inspire and encourage each other. I hope Jesse continues to challenge himself naturally. Jesse's example and progress are encouraging me. Thank you. Please keep the videos coming. Stay safe, take care all.
You impressed me by your last argument of interpersonal ramifications. Many act like they're only individuals not tied to other people who they would affect by their actions. Respect and peace! Sajid.
Jesse, you’re a huge inspiration to me. Been following Athlean X for a few years now and the progress I’ve seen in your strength and size gains is incredible. Stay natty so you stick around longer for us, and keep working hard. You dropped this king👑
Jesse I don’t know you personally but I have watched y’all’s videos on and off for a lot of years. Stand firm brother be you. Don’t listen to weak people comparing themselves to you. You have grown in an area that you might not be natural at but great gains and didn’t choose something else to get you there. Be proud of the work and time put in. Focus on being proud of what has been accomplished. Next step in strength training (to add to your natural strength training) strengthen your self internally. Seek God first, die to self, encourage other people who are struggling. Maybe someone starting where you did. Or wrestling with things you do. Growth in life is a lot more than the superficial and maybe this is where you have come to now. Who knows might not give up because of you. Humor is definitely a strong suit with and that could help someone. People get caught up superficial stuff and then death or something else comes and not ready. Hang in there stand firm. Don’t listen to the punks comparing. If they have easier results than you if not weak internally they don’t need to comment. Stand firm
You went from 135 to 165 and have the strength gains you’ve achieved (in THIS amount of time) NATURALLY?!!! Jesse, forget what anyone who disrespects what you’ve accomplished. You’re doing VERY well!!
Chiming in - gains are ultimately just a physical sign of power. If you are getting gains but still deeply dissatisfied, you may want to look for growing your power in other ways. I suggest taking up boxing or judo & see if the enpowerment from there is what you're really looking for. All the best, Jesse!
Jesse - I too weigh 165 lbs…and I’ve weighed that for most of my 56 year life. Keep enjoying your amazing gains, as you had a completely “blank slate” to start with (as I did as a very skinny kid!). You can only keep going UP!
I should also say that, with the great help of you and Jeff with all the great tips, I’m the happiest I’ve been NOW!…after 4 decades of lifting! I still weigh 165 lbs but I “wear it well!” 😀
Jesse, brother, I’m gonna be honest, and I’ve thought about juicing before, when I was younger, but no bs like your transformation and grit and progressive successes have been a source of motivation and inspiration for me, even, dude. You are a person I have shown to other people to motivate and inspire them for the better , as well… many times actually. I actually look at you with some of your recent lifts and feel a little envious, like god damn man good job.And I’ve been actively strength training and doing martial arts for almost 25 years .Your progress has resonated with my own hard gains and just your consistency shines through dude like a beacon. I’m actually an MFT, and so the mental health concerns are incredibly salient to me too, and I’m so stoked that Jeff took that approach. This was just a phenomenal video. Keep strong. You’re a bad ass.
Well said, I hope he reads all these positive comments, clearly coming from experience and the heart and understands he is loved, envied and has value. He also does a very cool Wookiee impersonation.
Jesse, I remember when you started this journey. You weren't even interested in working out and Jeff was giving you grief for all the gummy bears you were snacking on. I don't think you realize how inspiring your journey has been thus far. And look at you now! You've gained 30 lbs total, and clearly more in muscle, and you look great! Not to mention, you're so hooked on your workouts now that you want even more. I know it isn't easy; our own thoughts can often be our worst enemy, but you don't need to chase the looks of other gym-goers or the praise of those on social media. There will always be someone trying to tear you down. Don't let that someone be you. Instead, tell yourself what I'm sure you'd tell anyone else in an instant that has gone on your journey. And that is that you're doing great, keep it up, and hold your head high! You should be proud of how far you've come.
It's always reassuring to remember where you started. Many times I am jealous of people who make a lot of money and have nice houses and cars. But then I remember that I was born in Soviet Union to a poor family, first person to get a Doctorate, now I live in the US making 6 figures. Wow, that's much better!
I thought Jessie's early photos were doctored because his transformation is so huge. Jessie, you've made awesome gains! Thanks for having this conversation guys
I'm a teacher in my mid 50s working in Poland. Last year I taught three 18 year olds who started taking SARMs and/or GH when they joined the gym. They also drank lots of alcohol and took recreational drugs, some hardcore. All were exceptionally intelligent, but were driven by the images on social media.
When I hit 55 my strength and my libido started to decline. I had my testosterone levels tested and found they were a little low at 300, and through trt I have them stable at ~800. My strength has gone up only a little and my libido a lot. I feel better in every single metric. I don't have any desire to increase my dose, and my doctor wouldn't let me even if I did. I wish Jeff would differentiate between this type of trt use and steroid abuse. As a 30 year old with lifts like Jesse I'd never consider trt or steroid use. Honestly, he could put on some weight and gain strength at the cost of some body fat gain, easily. For his height 165 is light. I'm only 5'3" and weight a bit more than that with lifts about 20% less than Jesse. In any case, I honestly think trt can be beneficial to those with low testosterone, especially for guys 50+ where their natural testosterone has dropped. I'd like to hear some distinction and discussion between those cases and those who are merely using it for gains.
Most people who say TRT really mean for performance above normal levels not for medical purposes to restore normal levels like you are doing so they give it a bad name.
He has to be this way for the girls crying in the comment section. But typically steroids monitored by a doctor are low risk. The risks are overhyped because of bodybuilders dropping 5 d balls a day for 2 years straight and wondering why they have liver disease. Then they lay in the hospital "hey kids don't do steroids, you'll end up like me."
waaaaaaaah! He's not talking about limp dick. He's talking about people who want to look big and lift more. Libido problems with age is a different thing. And 1d a day a day isn't going to help you. It's fine you talked to your doc and got a dose that helps, but this isn't a medical channel. You don't have to look here for approval to take controlled steroids. Your doctor already gave that to you.
In 20 years when you are older and still strong and healthy, have a family, and can live each day without issues you will be happy you chose to not take steroids. Plus you can deadlift/ squat 3-4 times your weight? I would love to be able to do that. Be proud of what you accomplished. Truly amazing.
Jeff, you are spot on ! Your stuff is fantastic & Jessie’s progress is inspiring. I have used all your advise to significantly change my body, which has change some of my view-points. Keep on YOUR path Jeff !!
Started with same weight, same problems with eating but much older than Jesse and have made about the same gains. One thing I think hardgainers need to know is that you must expect a couple of years to change your metabolism with slow growth. You body is not primed to grow, whereas someone on the gymnastic team at 14 has maximum potential for gains due to hormone production and cell metabolism.
Expectations and standards have simply become ridiculous. The physiques of guys who have 1% genetics AND are juicing are now considered attainable by everybody. We need to get realistic about what an average natural lifter is capable of. Jesse looks jacked and has made amazing progress. He's more buff than 95% of men. Be happy with that.
My liver is far too functional and my kidneys are too healthy. Also my heart is way too small and I need these internal organs to be heavily degraded through the abuse of chemicals. Is there hope for me to be able to damage my internal physiology via chemical dependency?
Ur heart will grow from training and exercise anyway. Liver and kidneys will be totally fine providing you don't pound oral steroids and live on mcdonalds. You do understand that there are millions of people on steroids across the world... Most of which do them completely wrong... And we have how many deaths? How many bodybuilder deaths didn't include insulin, diuretics, recreational drugs, genetic clotting disorders etc? Bc if it includes any of those it's not from the steroids. Pretty simple stuff. They aren't miracle drugs... It won't make Ur bench go from 405 to 595 and it won't kill you either. The truth is between the two extremes.
But Jesse you are doing so darn good, performance and how you feel inside is all that matters. If you start pushing that bodybuilder build, you're going to get more attention from men unless for women what do you have going on is the athletic build that women love, just like the swimmer's build and just like the Warriors build. You need not worry about looking like an elite bodybuilder. It's pointless.
"bodybuilders" display their inner issues for everyone else to see. Nobody is impressed that you spend too much time and attention on yourself. Congrats on picking up that heavy object and then putting it down. I hope it's a bigger object than your last object you picked up. Enjoy your ammonia byproduct from your excessive protein intake.
Finally Jeff. I think it's time too. I didn't even started lifting but I think it's time to take some of the good stuff. I'm glad we're on the same page.
I bought several of Jeff’s programs and posted a question on the FAQ a few months back about how discouraged I was about my progress and how I felt like I wasn’t making progress fast enough and was just considering quitting. Jesse actually commented on my post and encouraged me and it really helped me continue. We love you jesse and you’ve made a lot of progress for someone who looked the way you did before. You have changed and you have made significant progress, and you’re only gonna get better as you keep going. I think we relate a lot because I’ve been a hard gainer for a long time and it does mess with your head. But we’re here for you and you’re doing amazing
Being natural is the fountain of youth! I've been watching this channel for years and I saw all your development and I'm also very proud of you, that's why I can easily say: Jesse, you're an inspiration, man! Don't do it. You have no need for it, no one has. Your gains are true and so are you. Thank you for your hard work and kindness. Greetings from Brazil.
I'm 44, and I'm still pretty shredded. As long as I maintain a healthy weight, and can exercise the way I want, that's all I need. But, it's just a fact of life, that we all will deteriorate, and it will become difficult to maintain healthy muscle mass, and retain that athleticism that allows you to still be mobile. There WILL come a time when it gets harder to maintain that healthy weight and still workout the way you might want. There is a serious conversation to be had once that time comes, and I'm always wondering when that might be. Heck, maybe the amount of maintenance required, or potential side effects makes it not worth it for some people. Or maybe, for some, it might allow you to continue to work out a bit longer, aid you in your mobility, etc. I'm sure as we all age, being FIT/AGILE on some level might be the difference between slipping and injuring yourself, or catching yourself before you injure yourself. I'd just be curious to hear THAT conversation.
You will probably have less serious illneses than a couch potato and enjoy a much better quality of life in ur golden years Though the life span diffence between u and the couch guy will still be 2-4 yrs his golden years will be far from that wanted . This is from a long term study involving 10k + people
I’m not trying to take anything away from Jesse because bro your progress is amazing and don’t listen to anyone tell you anything different but it’s great to have someone in your corner like Jeff that can give you real talk both for and against how you get gains. Like Jeff said it doesn’t really matter who but it’s critical to have someone in your life that can be on your side and tell you the truth because everyone who works out and looks at the mirror eventually begins to doubt their progress and needs someone in their life to help them get to that next level
It's tragic that fit and healthy people feel like they need to ruin their bodies to impress other people, not even themselves. Focus on your own approval, not others.
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Get rid of social media and watch how fast you’ll start being happy with yourself
Amen 😂
Literally put instagram in a folder in your phone and be happier everyday, it works
There's some good things about social media but man, overall I think it's a net negative for society.
Does RUclips count?
@@JronDon854 that would depend on the person. I don’t post content so I’m not getting feedback, Jesse however does post content and reads the comments so it would apply to him
560 DL + 430 squat? That’s amazing, I could only dream of what it’s like to live, breathe, and move with that much strength. Hats off to ya, Jesse
its kinda insane lol especially the guy was 130 pounds im far from that after years and years of train...
Strong AF!
Strong dude! Don't do the sauce as it seems you have an underlying issue with yourself. You think ppl will stop hating if you put on 20 more pounds with the sauce? Come on you aren't that naive.
A 325% bw deadlift is all he has to show to prove where he's at. That's damn near elite.
Those numbers are incredibly impressive. Dude is legit strong. I'm guessing he wants to look bulkier and have more of the show muscles rather than the go muscles. For that I would consider training a bit more like a body builder and less like a power lifter.
Jesse, you realize the same people now who say you haven’t made big gains are the same people who are going to turn around and say none of the steroid gains are yours, or sold out, or otherwise find another way to insult you because they’re jealous!
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This comment needs to be the top comment.
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I've never heard of this guy I just wanna know, jealous of what? Looking like a normal guy lmfao
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Jesse, you have the physique that 95% of guys would die for. Your gains are nothing short of jaw dropping. I have watched all of Jeff’s videos and the ones with you are the most fun and relatable!😊. I’m with the majority, remove social media from your life and discover the happiness that action enacts. You are lucky to have an opportunity to be trained by Jeff. I have been trying to sign up with Athlean-x for a long time but spots aren’t available. I’m glad you two are so successful and ignore the haters that SAY they can do things but we don’t KNOW if they can.
bro is in the 1000 pound club without even bench pressing lol
I love how hard this channel is fighting for its viewers’ health. The courage to tackle these important issues can literally save lives.
I read a quote that said, "Comparison is the thief of joy."
Yeah I read that a lot. It is bullshit.
So true
Well said
We have the same in Morocco 🇲🇦
Old swimmer here: not worth it. As a retirement ager who has done decades of swimming competitively, I find that I'm competing against ghosts-of-swimming-past.
How fast am I compared to when I started competing 49 years ago? Actually, I'm a lot faster. Not the fastest I've ever been, but I'm actually far faster than I was 7 years ago.
Compare your own apples to your apples, not to somebody else's oranges.
It can also be a good teacher though.
People saying that the gains Jesse made would've been possible for him in half a year or even a year are delusional.
Definitely possible with the right genetics.
Saying otherwise is also delusional.
Not talking about myself BTW, unfortunately. But they do exist. I know a few.
it is possible...have you not cycled
@@--SPQR-- yepp. But luck's definitely another factor and people seem to forget (or ignore?) this.
One injury and all your plans crumble.
And you can't predict or prevent it. It can be the dumbest thing. One wrong step down the stairs, someone bumping into you...
I once dislocated my shoulder while getting out of a tight fitting leather jacket. ^^
Another time I stepped into a nail... they had to operate on my foot and I couldn't walk or do anything really for two months.
It is possible but not for most people, probably not for those making those comments either
@@--SPQR-- "would've been possible for him" read before you comment, he has his genetics and no one else's.
This video shows another side of Jeff. I've always thought of him as a well-educated and knowledgeable guy, but this shows that he's also a wise and philosophical guy.
Jesse looks so good he’s an official respected and listened to member of the most popular fitness page on RUclips. Man is literally IN the industry and looks like he belongs there. We all compare ourselves to others and I’m sure people compare themselves to Jesse.
You cant even tell he works out. He has no clue how to workout or eat.
In a sea of juiced up jerks. Jesse is an inspiration to those of us not afraid to earn our strength the hard way.
Alleluia. Natural is the way. Takes long and hard work needed. Be strong and functional for yourself and for your family. End of story. Screw everybody else.🎉
Jessy is underrated, even in his own mind...
He has what millions of others don't... strength, physique, popularity, humor, job and a great friend by his side...
Jessy playing with that blessed hand.
The greatest comment
Jesse can deadlift more than most juiced up monsters weighing 60lbs more. That’s something truly deserving of respect
With that beard, he doesn't even need to lift. Jokes aside though, bro looks good fr.
Jesse was a fantastic edition to Jeff’s channel. Very good move on Jeff’s part moving him from behind the camera to in front.
This is such a good video. Not just because the information and thoughts are helpful, but also because it shows Jeff's genuine care for his audience.
Absolutely, Jeff is a great ambassador.
People need self therapy and not steroids
I was literally talking to my buddy today about needing therapy about his body image.
@@joshuamelendez2604did you guys kiss after?
@Jesse-hk8ls awww
Yeah, dont let man do shit that will damage his brain etc. There is no steroid or protein in the world that will help man with having bigger pp.
not if they want big fucking muscles, are you going through something right now? Or just out here trying to play a hero?
Me “I’m training everyday and my goal is to look like Jesse”
facts lol
I love how such a father Jeff was in this video.
It responds to the crisis of fatherlessness in our culture, where drugs and addictions all numb us of this problem.
Well put my man ..we need more guys like this in the world
A video about Jesse with no “Jesse Intro”? You don’t need steroids, you need to bring your intros back. That’s the real juice!
Fo'realz 🤘
So true!
"if you're not enough without it, you'll never be enough with it" - John Candy
yup the negative effects are forever though
@GameN3rdz Nothing lasts forever. Everything stops eventually.
feel the rhythm!
feel the rhyme!
get on up!
it's steroids time!
Cbum says otherwise
Yes coming from the man who had a cocaine induced heart attack 😂
Jeff and Jessie, I'm 49 years old and have put on 16 pounds of lean mass in less than a year based on your videos. I'm 6 ft 5 and 210 pounds now vs 194 pounds. I'm very very happy with my progress and my body now after spending too many years just being skinny. Thank you both. Jesse, your transformation is amazing...plain and simple. Social media is a curse and leaves all of us feeling inferior to others. Its not worth it. Dump social media. If you're not a professional athlete and you're considering steroids, you MUST QUESTION how insecure you really are. That goes for all of us measuring ourselves to those exhibiting "perfection" on social media.
Been watching yall for years. This is the most honest and best video yall have ever made. We have all been tempted with this decision. Much respect Jeff for the way u answered not putting anyone down
Social media while beneficial, is also a CURSE of our time.
At the end of the day social media is free. What isn’t is the time and energy you give it. Be mindful what you consume, is it good or evil? Your mind is your temple, how you guard it is your choice.
The curse is currently burying the benefits. I hope that reverses someday.
@@danielchavez8223wise words brother, respect.
Especially Tiktok. It literally altered the human attention span. It literally altered a the human brain worldwide.
Every gift is a curse
Jessie, dude, are you serious?? You look f%$kin awesome and have the physique most men would kill for. Don't listen to those who critisize you - they have likely never even stepped into a gym. Keep up the good work and forget all the 'never big enough' mindset. As someone who has been in the gym for over 35 years allow me to assure you you WILL NEVER be big enough, steroids or no steroids. It's the bodybuilder's eternal monkey on the back. Just know that what you don't see, others are admiring.
If I looked half as good as him, I'd be ecstatic.
I'm on my way, down nearly 30 pounds since March!
People gotta stop comparing themselves to others though.
Great comment
Got jealous with that squat shoulder push he was going. Dude looked more ripped than my jeans as a young fashionable teen
This is the first time I saw Jesse in about 3 years. I didn't know the comment they read was from him, but to be honest the first thing I thought was "he looks the same as three years ago." Not a bad thing of course, he looks good and a lot of men would be contented to have his body. But if his goal was to get bigger all this time, chances are he is doing something wrong. Perhaps he got stronger, more conditioned etc, and again he looks good already. But if we are talking about hypertrophy, it was never this channel's specialty. If you watch scientists and coaches specializing on getting bigger, and if you read researches on hypertrophy, you will see they radically differ from Jeff's approach towards almost everything: Exercise selection, execution, volume, nutrition, etc. It has nothing to do with steroids. It is obviously and absolutely possible for a young man to get bigger than 165 if he consistently and specifically trains to get bigger for over 5 years, even if he has bad genetics and started at 135 bodyweight.
People that criticize him are jealous because they had to take steroids to get beyond that point but they know they couldn't acheive what he did without steroids. So they invite him to join the steroids users and try to shame him to take that pride from him.
Jeff isn't just a fitness coach. He is a mentor also.
He's a daddyy too!
Jesse has a solid body. He has the Hugh Jackman build. He is honestly an inspiration to so many of us who have had the same thought. He’s never going to look like some people out there because of his body but he has shown truly impressive progress, especially in this amount of time. I’ve been watching your journey and if you think about steroids please remember those of us who are watching you who are truly inspired.
Jesse, as someone over 40 here, I can’t explain to you how much your transformation has motivated me. Knowing you can achieve what you did naturally is really inspiring
Jeff is the type of guy to put in his 2weeks notice before switching gyms
😂😂😂😂
Don't do it, Jesse. Ignore the haters.
he better not if he truly loves himself he wont
For real. Jessie needs to learn at least 2/3 of the internet is inhabited by human sewage who exist to weigh others down. Keep your heads up, stay clean.
@@shiftymcgee9359no shit man! You are correct
Jessie your progress is insane many people give up and you look at you 💪🏽
i look better than jesse at 6'3 239lbs, but i actually deadlift and squat less. Jesse, you damn beast
@@DanielWebb-th4ik no you don't.
Brad pitt in Snatch.... has jessies bodytype. Girls be drooling over him.
@@imperialknight3942 sounds what a small nobody would say
@@imperialknight3942 you sound like a gayboi coming at me with that lol
Its not strength, Its your image. A sleeper build is better then all show no go.
Holy crap, Jesse your deadlift is mind-blowing!
Steroids aren't worth the costs of long term health.
depends on how you use them, jay cutler levels is to much, the way i use them is sick as fuck homey
vaping thc is worse than steriods, and smoking weed is worse than steriods on the heart lungs and stamina. Id rather take steriods than smoke weed, i gotta have something
@@DanielWebb-th4ik watch jeff nippard videos on steroids, its shown even small dosages can have long term effects on your health
@@DanielWebb-th4ikim glad you have jay cutlers exact protocol
Wrong. ABUSE of steroids is tho.
Jesse, stop listening to the fucktard haters! I got crazy respect for what you have accomplished and how you accomplished it. I'm almost 57 and I've never come close to your PR's. Love you brother
I’d rather look good then have a big PR. Actually I train daily and never go for PR or care about that. That’s an ego thing. I rather look amazing.
Jessie! Your deadlift PR is insane. Keep up the good work big guy. You're crushing it!
The worst is when family who don't know anything about the hard work it takes to make progress in the gym make negative comments. That sticks with you
YES!! I find it worse when they see Reacher or a show like that and turn to you say "you work out. How come you don't look like that?" When you say "because he's on steroids", they argue with you.
f*ck em
@@dwaynecunningham2164 hate to be negative back as well, but sometimes I feel like saying lets workout together but the ones that say hegative remarks "never have time or make excuses"
Bro this is so true. I've been working out for over 4 years now. Someone at work who is literally old school friends with ronnie coleman (she called him with me on her cell phone), was like "oh do you like weightlifting? try out protein." I was like wtf, I have like 1-2 shakes per day and FOCUS on protein eery day lmao
@yurtyybomb YEAH BUDDYYY!!!! LIGHT WEIGHT BABYYYY!!!!!!
Jesse? Seriously? You're an f*ing beast! U have made PHENOMENAL progress! I've been training hard, following the AX programs, for about 5 years, haven't made half the progress u have, & am still.....pleased, for the most part (the #s on the plates haven't gone up much, though 😞 ....mind u, I am turning 60 this year, & I'm sure thats playing a part)
Jesse, it’s impressive how openly you share publicly. Congrats! Vulnerability can open many doors
Jesse squatting/deadlifting 3-4 times his bodyweight and still thinking he's small.....
Guy's a beast.
Strong and big are two different things. Many people work out for appearance, not performance.
Deadlift not squat
I'm jealous. I have an injury that makes it almost impossible to do real squats and dead lifts. I miss them bad. Le sigh.
It’s a clear symptom of a society obsessed with appearances over function. His strength is excellent . Thats enough.
This video is not just about steroids, it's about life and happiness and I'm grateful I watched it. Thanks Jeff, I do face pulls in your honor every back day. Thanks for the face pulls too
I did face pulls in Michigan tonight at the YMCA and thought about Jeff and Jessie's technique video. Thanks
@@pben521MI represent
Jeff would say: Do Facepulls everyday! 😂
Dude, Jesse looks like a freakin' BEAST to me. Ideal male physique, imo.
I think most women would even prefer Jesse's build to the roided body builder.
@@limitisillusion7 It makes sense. I'm pretty sure I read a scientific study that showed that.
@@limitisillusion7 Indeed, because it looks more natural ;)
Agreed!
@@limitisillusion7Plus roided bodybuilders are big butted, small balls chickens with uncomfortably pump chest
People gotta stop listening to unhappy, jealous, miserable people. Jesse has become a beast! Incredible journey that majority of people are jealous of. Be proud of what u have accomplished! Love the videos!
Jesse, those deadlift and squat numbers are insane. Killing it. Side note, I dropped all social media in March. After about a week I kind of forgot about it, and 5 months later I definitely feel so much better, and am not missing anything. Self esteem at an all time high lol.
Yet here you are... smh. You are aware youtube is also social media?? 😂.
I want to look like Jesse. And I want to live into my eighties. So I’ll stay natural and just keep grinding
Based "i wanna wreck my 20 year old grandkids when playing football" exercise enjoyer.
My favorite inspirational comment! Thanks!
"I wish that I had Jessie's glutes. Where can I find me a body like that?"
We don't need steroids what we need is to know how to get an 80s style montage to fastrack our gains
"There's no easy way out"
this guys askin the real questions
One way street is very relaxing, and others from the Rocky 4 soundtrack
@@josephtanner3983 "There's no shortcut hoooome!"
Hearts on fire, strong desire rages deep within
Hearts on fire, fever's risin' high
The moment of truth draws near.
This is the type of content that makes you guys stand out over other content creators. The honesty and humanity you show in every single video is simply outstanding. I only wish I could upvote more times
This channel rocks. Jeff's knowledge, intelligence, and honesty are a breath of fresh air. I (and a lot of others) say THANKS, man!
Such videos are desperately needed. Thanks!
Never clicked on a video so fast
Bro fr 😂
Same 😂
Me too!!!
I was interested af!
fr 💀
literally
Tbh Jesse I wish to look as good as you, you doing well, you made progress. Keep pushing
0:20 J̶e̶s̶s̶e̶'s question
2:30 Jeff's Strength question
4:35 Jeff's Body question
6:35 Natty virtue
7:55 Anxiety depression
9:10 Your loved ones
11:45 Happiness, Never enough
14:05 When to take Steroid
Hey Jesse! I'm 24 y/o at 5'10 and 112 lbs and just started my gaining journey this month. I just discovered Jeff's channel this week, and seeing your evolution and how much bigger you got was really inspiring to me, and I quite look up to you. Be proud of your work, you look awesome to me (and to pretty much everyone else).
As a slim guy (hard gainer), I've been watching this channel for more than 6 years. Seeing Jessie's transformation has been inspirational.
Hold yourself up man! 100,000 positive comments, but our insecurities will make us focus on the toxic 100 negative comments. Forget steroids brother, get a therapist, and transform the mind along with the body 💛. Much love to Athlean X
The negative comments are likely people you wouldn’t want to take advice from anyways in life. You’re killin it dude, keep up the good work. You deadlifted more than me in my prime late 20’s on anabolics. Only person you should compare yourself to as yourself from yesterday. Keep up the good work, man.
Well said.
I watched a video about Jesse's progress about a year ago. Saw a comment to the effect of "Ha ha, I could put on that much muscle in two weeks", followed shortly by another comment that read, "Obviously you're on steroids". Two polar opposite conclusions drawn from the same information. The first person (likely on steroids) needed to elevate himself by diminishing Jesse's gains. The second needed to justify his own failures by diminishing Jesse's effort. Jesse should be proud that his results came from consistency, hard work and effort and not from a syringe.
Why does everything have to be about size; who wouldn’t rather have the perfect body of a classic boxer, or, for that matter, a classical Greco Roman statue (there are literally hundreds of thousands of examples to see all over Greece and Italy)? That kind of physique is lean, subtle and fits into a suit perfectly. “Thinish” when compared to someone absolutely fixated on bulk but who can’t throw a punch, kick a ball, do a high jump or even hold themselves up on a bar for more than three seconds. So what’s it all for? Certainly NOT aesthetics since I think Michelangelo knew a lot more about male beauty and proportionality than the modern steroid taker.
did you write this while trying on panties? I just get that impression.
Great video and so true. Stop comparing to others and focus on earning your true potential through hard work and consistency. Thanks for the message. Jesse you are a beast! Enjoy it because you earned it! 💪
Jesse - The purpose of the AthleanX videos, in large part, have been to help others reach their physical goals - which is great. I have benefited from them greatly. This video is next level. Your openness and transparency will doubtless inspire people to work harder physically, while at the same time have a right/healthy mental focus. The only things this video was missing was inspirational pump-you-up music - because it was so awesome! This is the sort of inspiring video young athletes (...and older athletes) who are navigating though muscle building and what a healthy mental focus is, should be watching. Thank you! Way to have an impact, bro!
Jeff can you please confirm if you’re coming to my birthday party? My mom wants to know if she needs to get an extra pizza
you'd have better luck with carrot cake lmao
@@itsdox7433 Is there going to be a bouncy castle?
@@AzureFan1I'll go if there's one of those lol
😂
😂😂😂😂
I think I'm gonna start. Everyone I know who did it had there life changed massively for the better. They were all nerds that never got any girls. They did one cycle or two and now they all have casual flings with girls that wouldn't even give them a chance otherwise and they were all financial stable dudes beforehand too. Women are so vain. Look at Arnold. His still kicking strong and he blasted copious amounts. I really don't think one or two cycles could really hurt. Problem is I just don't know where to get them from.
Look I'm not condoning this comment. But usanabolic can sort you out. Just stay safe please. I hope you know what you're doing.
I can’t tell if you’re joking. You think having casual flings with a few girls who are vain anyway is gonna make you happy? lol.
So you want to get the attention of women who are attracted to muscle men? What, you want a long term relationship or just dip your wick? I would rather attract a woman who finds me interesting, who enjoys my company and who wants to give me all of herself, and not just her girly bits. And you know what? I did, 37 years ago, and she has chosen to stay with me ever since.
Raise the bar, my friend.
Bro honestly even if you do safety you’re essentially gambling your own life. If you deeply research the adverse effects of steroids, you’re putting yourself at risk for so many health issues such as heart attack, heart disease, liver disease, and even infertility. You’re also putting yourself at risk for things you’re genetically at risk for too and God forbid I hope you’re not at risk for any health issues. Stay natty man, it’s not worth to your risk to life to be acknowledged for the short term.
@@LeGoat2003 Dude this stuff is so exagerrated because of people who abuse it. I don't think anyone has ever died from 400mg of Test weekly over 8 weeks. If you abuse anything you will have severe side effects. KFC abuse has killed just as many people due to Obesity. Yeah if you overdo steroids you will get too large to a point it isn't healthy and grow all your organs too large etc. Moderation to anything is key.
My trainer has the right attitude: she told her best friend who told her that he considers taking steroids that for her there is no "good" level of steroids. Either you take them or not. And if you do, she is out. Because she does not want to worry about him dying of heart attack for no reason. We had such cases here in the Czech Republic. She says that noone needs that sh...t and if one is not willing to work hard and be satisfied with what you achieve, one should stop working out. Because as you say, once you go on the slippery slope of drug addiction, nothing is ever enough.
I love the realness and vulnerability of your channel. I can relate to the video, even though, I'm not a guy. It's easier to remember the negative comments. I think depression and anxiety lead us to a desperation that makes us find any way to make them go away. Even if that way won't benefit us. That has been in my experience. I'm still working on my insecurities and increasing my self-esteem. I like that comment that people bash because they wish they could be that person. I think this is the case. If compare Jesse to himself, before and after pictures, he is doing great. And that is all that needs done. I must remember that too, I must not compare my situation to anyone's situation but my own. But I believe we can definitely inspire and encourage each other. I hope Jesse continues to challenge himself naturally. Jesse's example and progress are encouraging me. Thank you. Please keep the videos coming. Stay safe, take care all.
You impressed me by your last argument of interpersonal ramifications. Many act like they're only individuals not tied to other people who they would affect by their actions. Respect and peace! Sajid.
Jesse, you’re a huge inspiration to me. Been following Athlean X for a few years now and the progress I’ve seen in your strength and size gains is incredible. Stay natty so you stick around longer for us, and keep working hard. You dropped this king👑
Jesse I don’t know you personally but I have watched y’all’s videos on and off for a lot of years. Stand firm brother be you. Don’t listen to weak people comparing themselves to you. You have grown in an area that you might not be natural at but great gains and didn’t choose something else to get you there. Be proud of the work and time put in. Focus on being proud of what has been accomplished. Next step in strength training (to add to your natural strength training) strengthen your self internally. Seek God first, die to self, encourage other people who are struggling. Maybe someone starting where you did. Or wrestling with things you do. Growth in life is a lot more than the superficial and maybe this is where you have come to now. Who knows might not give up because of you. Humor is definitely a strong suit with and that could help someone. People get caught up superficial stuff and then death or something else comes and not ready. Hang in there stand firm. Don’t listen to the punks comparing. If they have easier results than you if not weak internally they don’t need to comment. Stand firm
You have to love the journey and live happily within your genetic potential.
You went from 135 to 165 and have the strength gains you’ve achieved (in THIS amount of time) NATURALLY?!!!
Jesse, forget what anyone who disrespects what you’ve accomplished.
You’re doing VERY well!!
Jeff Cavaliere & Jesse Laico... Now going next-level deep!
Chiming in - gains are ultimately just a physical sign of power. If you are getting gains but still deeply dissatisfied, you may want to look for growing your power in other ways. I suggest taking up boxing or judo & see if the enpowerment from there is what you're really looking for. All the best, Jesse!
Jesse - I too weigh 165 lbs…and I’ve weighed that for most of my 56 year life. Keep enjoying your amazing gains, as you had a completely “blank slate” to start with (as I did as a very skinny kid!). You can only keep going UP!
I should also say that, with the great help of you and Jeff with all the great tips, I’m the happiest I’ve been NOW!…after 4 decades of lifting! I still weigh 165 lbs but I “wear it well!” 😀
Exercise is health and lifting weights being natural is a virtue
Always following your natural way, great video, thanks both the stars of this edition!!
Stay natural Jesse! You have made great progress! Your training programs are awesome Jeff! Keep up the great work! 👍❤
Jesse, brother, I’m gonna be honest, and I’ve thought about juicing before, when I was younger, but no bs like your transformation and grit and progressive successes have been a source of motivation and inspiration for me, even, dude. You are a person I have shown to other people to motivate and inspire them for the better , as well… many times actually. I actually look at you with some of your recent lifts and feel a little envious, like god damn man good job.And I’ve been actively strength training and doing martial arts for almost 25 years .Your progress has resonated with my own hard gains and just your consistency shines through dude like a beacon. I’m actually an MFT, and so the mental health concerns are incredibly salient to me too, and I’m so stoked that Jeff took that approach. This was just a phenomenal video. Keep strong. You’re a bad ass.
Well said, I hope he reads all these positive comments, clearly coming from experience and the heart and understands he is loved, envied and has value. He also does a very cool Wookiee impersonation.
Jeff had us in the first half never gonna lie
Naw fr
Jesse, I remember when you started this journey. You weren't even interested in working out and Jeff was giving you grief for all the gummy bears you were snacking on. I don't think you realize how inspiring your journey has been thus far. And look at you now! You've gained 30 lbs total, and clearly more in muscle, and you look great! Not to mention, you're so hooked on your workouts now that you want even more. I know it isn't easy; our own thoughts can often be our worst enemy, but you don't need to chase the looks of other gym-goers or the praise of those on social media. There will always be someone trying to tear you down. Don't let that someone be you. Instead, tell yourself what I'm sure you'd tell anyone else in an instant that has gone on your journey. And that is that you're doing great, keep it up, and hold your head high! You should be proud of how far you've come.
It's always reassuring to remember where you started. Many times I am jealous of people who make a lot of money and have nice houses and cars. But then I remember that I was born in Soviet Union to a poor family, first person to get a Doctorate, now I live in the US making 6 figures. Wow, that's much better!
I thought Jessie's early photos were doctored because his transformation is so huge. Jessie, you've made awesome gains! Thanks for having this conversation guys
Dude you have been an inspiration to me. Your gains in strength and total commitment are nothing short of incredible
I'm a teacher in my mid 50s working in Poland. Last year I taught three 18 year olds who started taking SARMs and/or GH when they joined the gym. They also drank lots of alcohol and took recreational drugs, some hardcore. All were exceptionally intelligent, but were driven by the images on social media.
When I hit 55 my strength and my libido started to decline. I had my testosterone levels tested and found they were a little low at 300, and through trt I have them stable at ~800. My strength has gone up only a little and my libido a lot. I feel better in every single metric. I don't have any desire to increase my dose, and my doctor wouldn't let me even if I did. I wish Jeff would differentiate between this type of trt use and steroid abuse.
As a 30 year old with lifts like Jesse I'd never consider trt or steroid use. Honestly, he could put on some weight and gain strength at the cost of some body fat gain, easily. For his height 165 is light. I'm only 5'3" and weight a bit more than that with lifts about 20% less than Jesse.
In any case, I honestly think trt can be beneficial to those with low testosterone, especially for guys 50+ where their natural testosterone has dropped. I'd like to hear some distinction and discussion between those cases and those who are merely using it for gains.
Most people who say TRT really mean for performance above normal levels not for medical purposes to restore normal levels like you are doing so they give it a bad name.
He has to be this way for the girls crying in the comment section. But typically steroids monitored by a doctor are low risk. The risks are overhyped because of bodybuilders dropping 5 d balls a day for 2 years straight and wondering why they have liver disease. Then they lay in the hospital "hey kids don't do steroids, you'll end up like me."
Why do you need libido at 55?!?
The time for that has passed.
waaaaaaaah! He's not talking about limp dick. He's talking about people who want to look big and lift more. Libido problems with age is a different thing. And 1d a day a day isn't going to help you. It's fine you talked to your doc and got a dose that helps, but this isn't a medical channel. You don't have to look here for approval to take controlled steroids. Your doctor already gave that to you.
In 20 years when you are older and still strong and healthy, have a family, and can live each day without issues you will be happy you chose to not take steroids. Plus you can deadlift/ squat 3-4 times your weight? I would love to be able to do that. Be proud of what you accomplished. Truly amazing.
Steroids are safe and he can have a family healthy 20 years later. You skinny people are crabs in a barrel.
Jeff, you are spot on ! Your stuff is fantastic & Jessie’s progress is inspiring.
I have used all your advise to significantly change my body, which has change some of my view-points. Keep on YOUR path Jeff !!
Started with same weight, same problems with eating but much older than Jesse and have made about the same gains. One thing I think hardgainers need to know is that you must expect a couple of years to change your metabolism with slow growth. You body is not primed to grow, whereas someone on the gymnastic team at 14 has maximum potential for gains due to hormone production and cell metabolism.
Expectations and standards have simply become ridiculous. The physiques of guys who have 1% genetics AND are juicing are now considered attainable by everybody. We need to get realistic about what an average natural lifter is capable of. Jesse looks jacked and has made amazing progress. He's more buff than 95% of men. Be happy with that.
My liver is far too functional and my kidneys are too healthy. Also my heart is way too small and I need these internal organs to be heavily degraded through the abuse of chemicals. Is there hope for me to be able to damage my internal physiology via chemical dependency?
Who asked 😂? Got a bit of a "main character " syndrome going? An organ can fail without warning even in the healthiest person.
Ur heart will grow from training and exercise anyway.
Liver and kidneys will be totally fine providing you don't pound oral steroids and live on mcdonalds.
You do understand that there are millions of people on steroids across the world... Most of which do them completely wrong... And we have how many deaths? How many bodybuilder deaths didn't include insulin, diuretics, recreational drugs, genetic clotting disorders etc? Bc if it includes any of those it's not from the steroids.
Pretty simple stuff.
They aren't miracle drugs... It won't make Ur bench go from 405 to 595 and it won't kill you either. The truth is between the two extremes.
But Jesse you are doing so darn good, performance and how you feel inside is all that matters. If you start pushing that bodybuilder build, you're going to get more attention from men unless for women what do you have going on is the athletic build that women love, just like the swimmer's build and just like the Warriors build. You need not worry about looking like an elite bodybuilder. It's pointless.
"bodybuilders" display their inner issues for everyone else to see. Nobody is impressed that you spend too much time and attention on yourself. Congrats on picking up that heavy object and then putting it down. I hope it's a bigger object than your last object you picked up. Enjoy your ammonia byproduct from your excessive protein intake.
Really enjoyed this video, fellas. Really positive language being used. Keep up the great work.
"Comparison is the thief of joy"
Never fail to learn something watching these conversations. Thank you.
Finally Jeff. I think it's time too. I didn't even started lifting but I think it's time to take some of the good stuff. I'm glad we're on the same page.
I love your channel! I have made so much progress doing your workouts! Do you have anything on post workout stretches?
We al clicked faster than we should have
I bought several of Jeff’s programs and posted a question on the FAQ a few months back about how discouraged I was about my progress and how I felt like I wasn’t making progress fast enough and was just considering quitting. Jesse actually commented on my post and encouraged me and it really helped me continue. We love you jesse and you’ve made a lot of progress for someone who looked the way you did before. You have changed and you have made significant progress, and you’re only gonna get better as you keep going. I think we relate a lot because I’ve been a hard gainer for a long time and it does mess with your head. But we’re here for you and you’re doing amazing
Being natural is the fountain of youth! I've been watching this channel for years and I saw all your development and I'm also very proud of you, that's why I can easily say: Jesse, you're an inspiration, man! Don't do it. You have no need for it, no one has. Your gains are true and so are you. Thank you for your hard work and kindness. Greetings from Brazil.
Dont' even need to watch the video. I've been given the green light!
Lol
That's it I'm taking steroids thanks jeff
😂
got em!
I'm 44, and I'm still pretty shredded. As long as I maintain a healthy weight, and can exercise the way I want, that's all I need.
But, it's just a fact of life, that we all will deteriorate, and it will become difficult to maintain healthy muscle mass, and retain that athleticism that allows you to still be mobile. There WILL come a time when it gets harder to maintain that healthy weight and still workout the way you might want.
There is a serious conversation to be had once that time comes, and I'm always wondering when that might be.
Heck, maybe the amount of maintenance required, or potential side effects makes it not worth it for some people. Or maybe, for some, it might allow you to continue to work out a bit longer, aid you in your mobility, etc.
I'm sure as we all age, being FIT/AGILE on some level might be the difference between slipping and injuring yourself, or catching yourself before you injure yourself.
I'd just be curious to hear THAT conversation.
You will probably have less serious illneses than a couch potato and enjoy a much better quality of life in ur golden years Though the life span diffence between u and the couch guy will still be 2-4 yrs his golden years will be far from that wanted . This is from a long term study involving 10k + people
Ill do steroids when i get in my late 50s. No point now. Just smoke a joint and workout.
I'd like to see Jesse do a video with Anatoly, who's made a career on social media by NOT being the biggest guy in the room
Legend has it that Jesse's thousand yard stare gave Chuck Norris nightmares..
Lunch is over, and Jesse's on the mic. Save us Jeff.
I‘m not ready jeff😣😣😣
I’m not trying to take anything away from Jesse because bro your progress is amazing and don’t listen to anyone tell you anything different but it’s great to have someone in your corner like Jeff that can give you real talk both for and against how you get gains. Like Jeff said it doesn’t really matter who but it’s critical to have someone in your life that can be on your side and tell you the truth because everyone who works out and looks at the mirror eventually begins to doubt their progress and needs someone in their life to help them get to that next level
It's tragic that fit and healthy people feel like they need to ruin their bodies to impress other people, not even themselves. Focus on your own approval, not others.