This design places all the weight from the cabin above, inflicting sheer stress on bolts. Way stronger than screws but why use sheer strength to hold up a load?. It would be %100 stronger by having the running beams on top of the posts. Point load is then on the direct support. Unless the structure isn't heavy, then this will work fine. If you have a whole bunch of filled up beer fridges, put your weight on top of those posts.
I have never done a cabin before and I am going to soon and I'm not a professional Carpenter or a log cabin Builder and even I know that bolting this wood to the side of the post is bad omg
If you are serious about building then learn some basic formula. Soil holds about 1500 pounds per square foot. If it is very compact and un desturbed then up to 2500. Wood has its main strength in compression. It stacks well on top of the next. If you hang a structural member use an engineered product. Otherwise it will only be as strong as the reduced depth of the member. Wood today will rot if buried or set in concrete. Again use an engineered bracket correctly. A floor and roof combined will put 40 dead and 100 live for the floor, and 20 dead and 45 live for the roof. So a pattern of 6x5 footings will hold 205 pounds per square foot on a bearing wall. A 2x2 footing can support 6000 pounds. That's about 30 square feet. Point loads will need to be supported. A large window or door frame in a bearing wall will transfer load directly to the king studs. These will need a vertical support to the footings. The length of a horizontal member and the depth is directly related to the load. There are charts available but many are way to long. For ballpark figures a floor beam is 4x6 supported every 6 feet. A floor joist of 2x10 supported every supported every 12 feet. A ceiling joist of 5 feet is 2x6. If insulated use a truss to allow for ventilation. The truss members need supporting by webbing. A horizontal 2x4 hanging sheetrock needs to be no longer than 5 foot if using good wood. A pitched roof member is up to 6 feet. Don't forget hold down straps and diagonal bracing. The amount depends on seismic and wind loads for your area.
I don't know... First of all, I wouldn't be comfortable with carriage bolts supporting the ends of the joists. The posts should be notched in this case. Also, I'm not understanding the logic behind sistering the broken span of joists in their centers with another 2-by. Why aren't the joists long enough to meet and then overlap side-by-side over a girder? And, the plywood subfloor panels should meet at their seems on top of a joist as opposed to seen here with one of them flopping free without a nailer underneath. Just my two (fairly educated) cents. I hate to be one of those keyboard criticizers of everything everybody else creates on their channels, but there was too much that didn't seem right here. But hey, there are other ways of doing things. Maybe this is form another country with completely different codes and standards?
I made a cartoon. Never intended for anyone to build it. Structural it isn't sound. Please don't build this floor. This system will not meet any building code in any country on earth. Actually I am expert on building codes and use them every single day at work (will let you guess what my profession is). I only seal drawings and not cartoons (are cartoons being sealed now?). I was just seeing what I could do without having any training on making videos. Only put on RUclips because I could share with some friends about making a video. You need to critique Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse. Maybe you can tell us how Disney World doesn't follow building codes in their movies. Hopefully I will start making videos again but put a disclaimer on the videos not to try this at home.
@@willlywillly Mr. B, I sincerely apologize if you took my comments the wrong way. I'm a musician/songwriter who puts my music and videos out there regularly and I fully understand the concept of internet trolls who cruelly criticize people's work when they themselves have nothing to offer. Therefor, when I do see something that compels me to critique it, I do it in a respectful manner without insulting or berating the author. Upon rereading my above post, I feel I did that. In fact, in its conclusion, I even conceded that it's just my two cents and there may be other methods shown in your video that I'm not aware of. The reason I commented at all is because I'm also a carpenter who knows that a lot of DIY-ers look to videos like this for an education on how they should go about their own projects. I know you said that this video was simply a training session for yourself and never intended as a guide for budding builders- and that's fine. However, I just felt that anyone unwittingly watching it for educational purposes should also be made aware of its shortcomings. That's all. Again, nothing personal. NOW..... as far as criticizing Bugs Bunny: I don't necessarily take issue with him as much as I do with Elmer Fudd. Were there seriously no other rabbits in the forrest that he could hunt? If I was constantly made a fool by the same damned bunny that many times, I'd have to admit defeat and take my hunting skills (or lack there-of) elsewhere. The same goes for Wile E. Coyote. After about the tenth major malfunction that sent me over a cliff or head-on into a rock wall, I would have to stop buying Acme products- especially when the injury caused by said product left one of my ears partially dangling and making a squeaking noise. -And don't even get me started on Disney. Anyway, best regards. Ian Patrick Gentles
Ofcoarse this construction is strong enough. If you use big bolds/nuts and tighten them seriously, they can carry anything provides the rest of the house is made of wood
I found your video searching for how to videos for raised foundations for a cabin we want to put up near a lake where flooding is a concern. I know you said you are practicing but what is the dimensions of your practice foundation? We aren't sure of the distance between supports. This is really easy to understand. Gives us something to work from.
I’m trying get the numbers for the same type of support, I want to build a 20x20 structure with from wall 12 feet and a 4/12 roof roof pitch. Any help would be much appreciated. Rough estimate of weight of a finished and insulated structure?
Column foundation is taking load vertically. the load on slab are taken it to the bolts. The bolts connect beam and column foundation taken too much shear force. Bolt should take tension not shear force.
I only saw a few flaws in your design you need to put big beams in the middle and not separate the boards without having a BM in the middle that will crack lol think about the fat man walking through the living room those boards aren't even held together at the ends
John anonymous thanks for the input. Mainly did this video just to see if I could make a video. Hopefully no one will build this framing. I am thinking about making more videos in the future of building more things. Thanks!
One thing I would be curious about is if you plan to notch your posts for what I assume are the 2x12 support beams. The end of the beams as animated are relying on the load bearing capacity of the bolts to hold the load of the structure. If you notch the posts that load will be distributed into your anchored posts a little better. That's been a big sticking point in home inspections with regard to decks and preventing collapses with a lot of people potentially walking on them at once. This is holding a whole cabin. Also, do the beams not secure in the center of the structure? Looks like they're just going to rest on the concrete pilings? I'd be interested to see what else you've come up with in the year plus since this was posted.
Sajid yes it would be better to add a concrete footing/pad underneath the blocks. I made this video just to see if I could make it without much thought if it really works. I am currently learning web design to embed my videos. I had no idea that this video would generate any interest. Hopefully in short time I will get back on making videos that will be much more quality. Thank you so much for your interest and watching.
Faulty construction, no support, don't hang the weight of the structure on some bolts, wrong, wrong, wrong!! put in two beams say 3- 2 X 8's over columns reduce the columns/footings to 8 and then lay floor joist over the beams the footings are over-designed, the connections under-designed, no columns in concrete and soil (outside rows of wood columns), they will rot... Extremely poor design and lousy engineering practice !!
I never learn much from videos like this because I too many times go to the comments section to read the horrid troll comments. I like this video though. Good job. Can you attach the toys are us song to appease the whiny babies?😂😂😂😂
Well ken , unless you are practicing how to do animation there's no context, dialogue, or anything for this so what's the point? It's just meh, sorry if your feelings are hurt but welcome to the internet.
This was pure practice for me. I absolutely do not care what you think or any other 4 year old. There was absolutely no meaning or purpose in what I did. I am very sorry that you did not hurt my feelings. Actually I think it is funny that you wasted your time viewing my video and that you tried to find purpose in meaning in my video. But I understand a 4 year old has hard time understanding what I just told you. Please please PLEASE keep giving me your kind comments. There are actually people who do try hard to put meaningful things on the internet. I would rather you give me all your kind and most wise comments than for you to give it to others who actually are trying. BTW if you were trying to hurt my feelings you could do a lot better job....but you did quite well for a 4 year old my dearest young friend. (Don't give up.....when you fail try and try again)!!! Perhaps this is your first time on the internet but you will be successful one day. I have faith in you!!!!
Hey Ken, You are way too sensitive to fool around here. Your animation was nice even though it's not a version of a practical technique. That reply was overkill. My 4 year old, however liked it more than me.
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This design places all the weight from the cabin above, inflicting sheer stress on bolts. Way stronger than screws but why use sheer strength to hold up a load?. It would be %100 stronger by having the running beams on top of the posts. Point load is then on the direct support. Unless the structure isn't heavy, then this will work fine. If you have a whole bunch of filled up beer fridges, put your weight on top of those posts.
I agree. You could make a cut out (notch) on the wood posts that fitted the beams.
Notch is a bad idea
Notch the post and then bolt on the joist to help load bearing.
Inspectors will fail it for sure.
Can you post an animation of the collapse of this faulty structure?
To much weight on the bolts better to notch the post and let them support the joist
that is what I was thinking and worried about
No it isn’t. The weight is evenly distributed.
Nah. We been doing this for many decade. Plus we use a hard wood.
Notching reduces strength of post
I have never done a cabin before and I am going to soon and I'm not a professional Carpenter or a log cabin Builder and even I know that bolting this wood to the side of the post is bad omg
Code would never permit this build. Tear it down and start over.
If you are serious about building then learn some basic formula. Soil holds about 1500 pounds per square foot. If it is very compact and un desturbed then up to 2500.
Wood has its main strength in compression. It stacks well on top of the next. If you hang a structural member use an engineered product. Otherwise it will only be as strong as the reduced depth of the member. Wood today will rot if buried or set in concrete. Again use an engineered bracket correctly. A floor and roof combined will put 40 dead and 100 live for the floor, and 20 dead and 45 live for the roof. So a pattern of 6x5 footings will hold 205 pounds per square foot on a bearing wall. A 2x2 footing can support 6000 pounds. That's about 30 square feet. Point loads will need to be supported. A large window or door frame in a bearing wall will transfer load directly to the king studs. These will need a vertical support to the footings. The length of a horizontal member and the depth is directly related to the load. There are charts available but many are way to long. For ballpark figures a floor beam is 4x6 supported every 6 feet. A floor joist of 2x10 supported every supported every 12 feet. A ceiling joist of 5 feet is 2x6. If insulated use a truss to allow for ventilation. The truss members need supporting by webbing. A horizontal 2x4 hanging sheetrock needs to be no longer than 5 foot if using good wood. A pitched roof member is up to 6 feet. Don't forget hold down straps and diagonal bracing. The amount depends on seismic and wind loads for your area.
I really appreciate this!! Thank you for your work
I don't know... First of all, I wouldn't be comfortable with carriage bolts supporting the ends of the joists. The posts should be notched in this case. Also, I'm not understanding the logic behind sistering the broken span of joists in their centers with another 2-by. Why aren't the joists long enough to meet and then overlap side-by-side over a girder? And, the plywood subfloor panels should meet at their seems on top of a joist as opposed to seen here with one of them flopping free without a nailer underneath. Just my two (fairly educated) cents. I hate to be one of those keyboard criticizers of everything everybody else creates on their channels, but there was too much that didn't seem right here. But hey, there are other ways of doing things. Maybe this is form another country with completely different codes and standards?
I made a cartoon. Never intended for anyone to build it. Structural it isn't sound. Please don't build this floor. This system will not meet any building code in any country on earth. Actually I am expert on building codes and use them every single day at work (will let you guess what my profession is). I only seal drawings and not cartoons (are cartoons being sealed now?). I was just seeing what I could do without having any training on making videos. Only put on RUclips because I could share with some friends about making a video. You need to critique Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse. Maybe you can tell us how Disney World doesn't follow building codes in their movies. Hopefully I will start making videos again but put a disclaimer on the videos not to try this at home.
@@willlywillly Mr. B, I sincerely apologize if you took my comments the wrong way. I'm a musician/songwriter who puts my music and videos out there regularly and I fully understand the concept of internet trolls who cruelly criticize people's work when they themselves have nothing to offer. Therefor, when I do see something that compels me to critique it, I do it in a respectful manner without insulting or berating the author. Upon rereading my above post, I feel I did that. In fact, in its conclusion, I even conceded that it's just my two cents and there may be other methods shown in your video that I'm not aware of. The reason I commented at all is because I'm also a carpenter who knows that a lot of DIY-ers look to videos like this for an education on how they should go about their own projects. I know you said that this video was simply a training session for yourself and never intended as a guide for budding builders- and that's fine. However, I just felt that anyone unwittingly watching it for educational purposes should also be made aware of its shortcomings. That's all. Again, nothing personal. NOW..... as far as criticizing Bugs Bunny: I don't necessarily take issue with him as much as I do with Elmer Fudd. Were there seriously no other rabbits in the forrest that he could hunt? If I was constantly made a fool by the same damned bunny that many times, I'd have to admit defeat and take my hunting skills (or lack there-of) elsewhere. The same goes for Wile E. Coyote. After about the tenth major malfunction that sent me over a cliff or head-on into a rock wall, I would have to stop buying Acme products- especially when the injury caused by said product left one of my ears partially dangling and making a squeaking noise. -And don't even get me started on Disney.
Anyway, best regards.
Ian Patrick Gentles
Ofcoarse this construction is strong enough. If you use big bolds/nuts and tighten them seriously, they can carry anything provides the rest of the house is made of wood
hahahahahaha NOT
OMG!! No!! Do Not Build Like This!!
I was going to build a cabin after this foundation but I’m not now so thanks
Why?
@@barronguy Waaaaay too much weight supported by the bolts.
Did you seriously just butt up the floor joists in the center on cinder blocks? Lord help whoever builds a structure like this.
This was way easy to understand, But I would have like to see the dimensions and quantity of materials that were used!
I found your video searching for how to videos for raised foundations for a cabin we want to put up near a lake where flooding is a concern. I know you said you are practicing but what is the dimensions of your practice foundation? We aren't sure of the distance between supports. This is really easy to understand. Gives us something to work from.
I’m trying get the numbers for the same type of support, I want to build a 20x20 structure with from wall 12 feet and a 4/12 roof roof pitch. Any help would be much appreciated. Rough estimate of weight of a finished and insulated structure?
Column foundation is taking load vertically. the load on slab are taken it to the bolts. The bolts connect beam and column foundation taken too much shear force. Bolt should take tension not shear force.
Do you mean Foundation?
All you have are fasteners holding the entire weight - bad idea.
Right Lag bolts can hold weight easily no problem.
an so the center joist joints are suppose to be free floating with no laminate?
Who ever did this has never built much & if they did it was wrong.
Nice
Beware...there are all kinds of problems here...
Excellent
It is all dead wrong. Kind of how not to do it?
Cool now 1000s of people think they know how to do this when they fucking dont.
Protip: Dont use fucking screws for foundation stuff.
I only saw a few flaws in your design you need to put big beams in the middle and not separate the boards without having a BM in the middle that will crack lol think about the fat man walking through the living room those boards aren't even held together at the ends
John anonymous thanks for the input. Mainly did this video just to see if I could make a video. Hopefully no one will build this framing. I am thinking about making more videos in the future of building more things. Thanks!
One thing I would be curious about is if you plan to notch your posts for what I assume are the 2x12 support beams. The end of the beams as animated are relying on the load bearing capacity of the bolts to hold the load of the structure. If you notch the posts that load will be distributed into your anchored posts a little better. That's been a big sticking point in home inspections with regard to decks and preventing collapses with a lot of people potentially walking on them at once. This is holding a whole cabin.
Also, do the beams not secure in the center of the structure? Looks like they're just going to rest on the concrete pilings? I'd be interested to see what else you've come up with in the year plus since this was posted.
3x12 bridge timbers I think, i didn't care for the notch either
Dont u think the cement blocks should also be piers ? These blocks will sink into ground.
Sajid yes it would be better to add a concrete footing/pad underneath the blocks. I made this video just to see if I could make it without much thought if it really works. I am currently learning web design to embed my videos. I had no idea that this video would generate any interest. Hopefully in short time I will get back on making videos that will be much more quality. Thank you so much for your interest and watching.
Nice vid but there is no curve on the earth in real life
I watched that "documentary" for a good laugh.
Set joist and beams on top of post/blocks. Never place wood in pier encased with concrete. Take a few engineering classes...
Wheres the rest man ..damn
Faulty construction, no support, don't hang the weight of the structure on some bolts, wrong, wrong, wrong!!
put in two beams say 3- 2 X 8's over columns reduce the columns/footings to 8 and then lay floor joist over the beams the footings are over-designed, the connections under-designed, no columns in concrete and soil (outside rows of wood columns), they will rot...
Extremely poor design and lousy engineering practice !!
This is done by a non carpenter. So many things wrong!
Amen brother. You might be the wisest person I have met so far in my entire life. Thank you for your amazing insight!
@@willlywillly 30 yrs as a licensed builder with12 yrs of bridge construction. Retired at 52,,, at your service!
I never learn much from videos like this because I too many times go to the comments section to read the horrid troll comments. I like this video though. Good job. Can you attach the toys are us song to appease the whiny babies?😂😂😂😂
This video should be banned because somebody will get seriously hurt living is this death trap or break a leg
Is this an example of how not to build a rised deck? OMG, do not follow this example.
Excelente demostración!
Label the steps. It be much better
I liked it thanks!
Cool video Ken ... what program did you use to make the animation video?
But the technique is totally wrong!
This would be ok for a shed but nothing habitable
very odd bud
Not good?
مهم جدا !
Love the 3D animation but needs music or voice over! #KB
This sucked HUGE!!!
Yep..... Another way to do this!
So many wrong things about this build. No thanks.
Well ken , unless you are practicing how to do animation there's no context, dialogue, or anything for this so what's the point? It's just meh, sorry if your feelings are hurt but welcome to the internet.
This was pure practice for me. I absolutely do not care what you think or any other 4 year old. There was absolutely no meaning or purpose in what I did. I am very sorry that you did not hurt my feelings. Actually I think it is funny that you wasted your time viewing my video and that you tried to find purpose in meaning in my video. But I understand a 4 year old has hard time understanding what I just told you. Please please PLEASE keep giving me your kind comments. There are actually people who do try hard to put meaningful things on the internet. I would rather you give me all your kind and most wise comments than for you to give it to others who actually are trying. BTW if you were trying to hurt my feelings you could do a lot better job....but you did quite well for a 4 year old my dearest young friend. (Don't give up.....when you fail try and try again)!!! Perhaps this is your first time on the internet but you will be successful one day. I have faith in you!!!!
Hey Ken, You are way too sensitive to fool around here. Your animation was nice even though it's not a version of a practical technique. That reply was overkill. My 4 year old, however liked it more than me.
Ken B stop encouraging the baby troll- lol
Ken B well well I’m new I was planing to doit don’t do that if is not right don’t posted you can make somebody hurt
That is awful