How Archaeology can help us to understand and learn from the past - to better protect the Future
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2024
- Recently I met up with Dr Claire Harris (Development Officer, Thames Discovery Programme
MOLA (Museum of London Archaeology)) and Dr Hana Morel (Sustainability and Advocacy Lead, MOLA (Museum of London Archaeology)) to find out more about how climate change is affecting the archaeological features along the Thames foreshore in London. Our conversation was about so much more than that though, and I came away with a better understanding of how archaeology can help us to understand and learn from the past - in order to mitigate the effects of climate change and protect our future.
Find out more about the Thames Discovery Programme here:
www.mola.org.uk/tdp
Find out more about MOLA here:-
www.mola.org.uk
www.mola.org.uk/about-us/our-...
Thank you very much to Claire and Hana.
Thank you to Tim Day of @brightondigitalmediatimday
For further info you might find the following links helpful:-
What is Climate Change:-
www.un.org/en/climatechange/w...
Causes and Effects of Climate Change:-
www.un.org/en/climatechange/s...
yaleclimateconnections.org/
How can we help?
www.un.org/en/actnow/
Fantastic video! As someone with a double major in history and environmental psychology, I strongly believe we can learn from and be inspired by the past when it comes to influencing the behaviour of people, and society as a whole, in regards to environmental stewardship. Archeology shows us that people across the ages have experienced catastrophic climate events, but now they happen more frequently, and the more gradual changes to our climate have sped up leaving today's society less time to adapt to these changes.
I've followed you for years now Nicola. You are such a great ambassador for the history of the foreshore of Thames. You introduce us to people who are so connected to the Thames. I just want to thank you!
Well said. I came to the comment section to express the same sentiment 🙏
Well thank you! That is such a kind thing to say. I really appreciate it xx
While her customary mudlarking videos deservedly pull in high viewing figures, Nicola has never been afraid to put out less immediately 'popular' content, offering valuable consideration of environmental factors and issues, which, in the case of climate change, will undoubtedly be affecting all of us in the years to come. Great work Nicola.
I really learnt a lot from this discussion. Archeology and history are my favorite areas of study. Especially culturally. Discussing how climate change has helped reveal more of the past was really fascinating. It didn’t surprise me that the walls will be raised soon. I’m am surprised that it will only be by one meter. Thank you so much for bringing this discussion to us .
Another wonderful program 👍 you are just the greatest 🙂♥️
Thanks Tony! You're a star yourself xx
I really like the archaeological/historical/environmental aspect, Nicola.
I agree with 99.9% of what the MOLA ladies said. The one thing I take issue with is going to electric vehicles. We the people have been given a false narrative when it comes to electric vehicles. While the cars may not be emitting the CO2's the Power plants where the electricity is now made (for the most part) are still using fossil fuels. So very much like telling us to recycle plastic (when only about 9% of plastics that are put into recycling bins are even eligible for recycling. So before the world goes all out for electric vehicles find out exactly how much CO2 is actuall y being reduced rather than just how much we as individuals are not emitting. Food for thought. Thank you for all you do to help educate all of us on our living planet.
Excellent comment. Clearly you are someone who does their own research, and looks beyond the hype. If people knew how little of plastic actually got recycled, perhaps they would buy less goods produced in plastics. It's quite a misguided scam, just like "electric cars".
Dear Ms Nicola White ,You have even touched us/me here in Arizona🌵USA 🇺🇸 ! And have taught me something I didn’t know about clay pipes ! The uniqueness of each of the pipes ! Once long ago I found a clay pipe on a little hillside ,while gathering wild flowers ! I knew it was old and wondered why the person was there smoking his or her pipe ! Perhaps just out for a stroll and enjoying the beauty of morning or evening landscape ! Yes the desert 🏜️ does have a beauty of it’s own !🌵IN a unique way ! You are not only bringing back artifacts of by gone years ! You are teaching us the way people lived and how they made life easier and comfortable as well as enjoyable ! You are an Archaeological Teacher as well as a Mud Larker ! 😊 Thank you so much for sharing your “Treasure’s and Adventures! Well Done ! 👍🏻👏👏👏👏👏👏🙀👵🏻😱🖖🏼👽🐲👍🏻👏 From ARIZONA WITH LOVE ,USA🇺🇸
Ayubowan Nicola. Another fascinating video. Cheers from Sri Lanka.
I like their ideas about more soft-scape in the gardens. I'm in the US, but that's what I do. Leaving the summer flowers to winter in the garden is good for the birds, grasses are good for rabbits etc. Thank you Nicole, Dr. Claire, and Dr. Hana...for all each of you do to make our World better.
Seeing the parts of the video discussing the changing heights of the Thame's river walls had me thinking about the Mississippi River. Over time, much of the Mississippi has had the heights of its banks increased with man-made berms (called levees) to contain potential flooding. Problem is that in trying to prevent flooding, they aren't utilising the traditional flood plains to accommodate the higher water levels. The result of trying to constrain and funnel the flow of water then may increase the velocity of the flow over historical rates & increase erosion rates. I said "may" in that last sentence because the containment can also cause the flow to be bottle-necked and back-up with more flooding. By increasing the levee heights they give those living in the historic flood plain a false sense of security. The efforts to avoid flooding can actually make the situation worse. It's a very challenging subject with no easy solutions. Hopefully some reading this can see how it could relate to the Thames.
& they drain all the silt into deep water destroying the natural everglades
I have lived within a mile or so of the Mississippi and/or Missouri Rivers for the past 40 years and have been personally impacted by 100-year and 500-year floods. The unintended consequences of the man-made changes to the natural paths of these rivers (originally meant to make barge shipping easier/safer) can be devastating to property and the natural habitats of countless flora and fauna. Governments and scientists need to keep unintended consequences (to nature and humans across the globe who are already struggling to survive) in mind when considering environmental legislation.
Dr. Claire Harris seems enthusiastic about her work and I like her accent.
I am excited about the possibility of visiting Petersburg and Jamestown in Virginia in March. 😊👍🇺🇸🇬🇧
Thank you for this piece of educational information. I’ve been following your channel for about over a week and I love it.
Many thanks for the interesting, topical plot!
If everyone made one little change towards a greener existance it would help tremendously. Thank you Nic for this learning moment.
I agree Sandy Lee. One change to consider, is giving up nail polish. It's totally unnecessary, full of chemicals, and very bad for the environment. I think it should be banned.
@@pamelavans5116 I stopped it long ago. You are absolutely correct.
I learn new things every day, bravo Nicola 👏 🇨🇦❣️
Thank you for this video, Nicola. We all need to keep in mind that although earth's climate has changed many times over billions of years, those changes were very, very gradual - over millennia - allowing life to change gradually with it. Today's climate is changing with mind-numbing rapidity. Life (including us) cannot adapt quickly enough to survive. Elizabeth Kolbert explains this in a very understandable way in her book "The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History". Thank you again for the great trip down the Thames with Claire and Hana.
That all past changes were very very gradual is untrue.
this channel has a huge importance for england´s history , i think nicola should receive a note from king Charles, cheering her up , she´s been mudlarking for years to get this recognition, we love you Nicola white.😍
That's very kind :) xx
Thank you very much, Nicole, for the lovely video and your sweet concern about mother nature. A grand salute 🫡 to you .
With love from SAM
Guwahati, Assam, India 🇮🇳 ♥️
Really fascinating story !
Thank you for group assembly this day. A lot of curious questions were raised and answered. Always an enjoyable video. Thank you ladies! 🇬🇧🙂👍🇺🇸
Great video again! You are important in so many ways...🌟❤🌟🇸🇪
Very interesting interviews. Thank you.
Nice catch m8, The lady in the Hi Vis knew some stuff huh! Public Transport down here is not that good. I went to an Airshow in Echuca fro Geelong. To drive would have been under 4 hours. Public transport involved, A Bus trip to Melbourne from Geelong, a train ride to some place. then a Bus ride to Echuca, 9 hours total. $30 petrol, $45 for the ticket, return. Really hope 🙏 yours is better m8. Stay away from Teslas!
Thank you for this video Nicole,greeting from Austria 🙌🏻
Always love you, your finds and all the cool info you share with all of us! This world would be such a better place, if we really all did our part! Keep up the great work!❤😊
Very interesting again Nicola, thank you very much!
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Outstanding discussion, and for remaining on a focused topic. It’s informative and inspiring that this is being actively promoted as essential to our future. Well done.
Thanks for the information ladies, we do that here in the US. A lot more recycle, reuse repurpose. We are emphasizing this in our schools. Hopefully our efforts will help yours!
Thank you so much for that Nicola! It was very interesting, enlightening and I really enjoyed it! Thank you again! 😊💚
So interesting, nice to hear from Mola and Thames Foreshore. Found the tree drainage pipes fascinating and nice to know that the Thames walls will be heightened to prevent any flooding
Very interesting … Always an entertaining watch 😍
Hi Nicola, thanks for another very informative video. I hope this suggestion is received and shared with the kindness with which it is sent..... I noticed that the lovely Hana Morel is wearing nail polish. Nail polish is completely unnecessary, and there are loads of chemicals in it, and nail polish remover. It's a small change, but perhaps people would be willing to give up such a frivolous fashion choice? Over the years, I've noticed a lot of people ( yes, a few men too) who profess to love the planet, and then want to make changes, but they seem to overlook the completely unnecessary nail polish, and related chemical products, like polish remover. Please think about it folks. Thanks for listening.❤
Great show thanks
Absolutely Brilliant !!!!!
Lots Of Interesting Data !!!
You Are A Star !!!!
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Thank you dear Roger!! xx
archaeology is the best thing in the world. I love it so much i dream about it.
Hi Nicola! I found your channel a few months ago and have been steadily watching all of your videos and I have so many questions! I'll plop them all here and maybe one day you might do a Q&A video :)
Have you ever fallen over in the mud?
Do you ever worry about infection from the dirty water?
I've noticed you don't often wear gloves - do you not like them?
Do you have a historical education or have you just learned everything from mudlarking, you are very good at identifying materials and dates!
What exactly is vulcanite??
Has mudlarking made you rich? 😀
Do you always search the tideline, where is the best place to look?
Have you ever been nervous about sinking in the mud?
I've started to look around the shoreline where I live, but I'm not sure if it's best to wait until the tide is all the way out?
We only see the bits where you find objects, do you ever go out and not find anything?
Think that's all for now! Thanks x
Usng public transport - great - in London, but up here in the Northwest, you either drive or walk, and walking isn't an option if you want to move your week's groceries, etc!
Not to be a pain these doctors who study the river maybe can answer a question ,the talk about climate change what was the earth like before the earth was frozen was it tropical? And so how long did this planet was frozen before it thawed out it would seem to me that the climate would swing the other way like a pendulum you go one direction and it would swing back the other way did they take in account all ground that has been moved around for building and in your case canals and derverting ground water / well and damming rivers and streams when cover the ground with concrete and asphalt water doesn't soak in the ground so folks build storm water system run off to the rivers and streams that will raise water levels too
Enjoyed the site specific stuff on Greenwich . Erosion is a problem here ; threatening quite a few of our archaeological sites ; especially on the coastline. The most illuminating book I ever read about the Thames was from the fiction written by Peter Ackroyd who takes you by the hand literally and metaphorically and walks you through all of Londons history and what we had and what we have obviously lost. Roman Shrines etc etc etc . He is a man that uses the writers art to record archaeology . My ultimate mudlark in London would probably be with him walking on the Thames. Now that would be a trip.
My goodness .. wished this video went on for hours .. so interesting and something we must know about, we all live around climate change so it's very important.. thank you Nicola and to these two lovely ladies ❤
Very interesting of how times change over the years, some of it is quite scary especially the erosion around our country!
Such a great segment!
Things like this help people make better choices but also teaches.
Those already aimed in the right direction recieve a little Confirmation they are doing it right.
Always great to see smart woman finding solutions ❤
Seeing how the ice selves in the artic are melting and countries that were once dry are trying to regreen the land bring more and more rain, I can see how the tides would rise so much. The erosion and all the mud, I know there are so many historical items still buried , but if a lot of the muds were removed the tide water won't be a high. At the same time to live sustainably, more trees are needed to filter the air, to stop the high winds which cause erosion as well..Perhaps if dry countries like the middle East and Australia to name just a couple, would create man made lakes using desalted ocean water the tides would also lesson a bit. It all plays a role for sure.
Im not sure 1 meter going to b big enough.not figured in from time to placement of 1 meter would have to be 2 meter not 1.
Victorian era caused so much damage, but technology improvements.
Fosil fuses.
No local transport where we live.been disabled i need to use car to transport my electric wheelchair.
Wonder what could be done for disabled people.
Electric cars cant afford but petrol hybrid self charge better than plug in .all electric cars ot enough charging points.along routes not enough in rest stops.
Disabled people, no way, can they get enough money for advance payments i know its 3rd week loking,there less cars around for hoist and electric chai.
Bad enough 3 years ago and now choice is drastic trying to get petrol hybrid automatic. Lets hope thers 1 out of their.
Today was another great piece lot's hard work andgettingg speakers on to who had knowledge on this subject. Ty Nicola great show x
Fascinating, thank you.
Loved this show - thank you.
Very interesting & very important !!! Everyone should help in some small way !!! Thanks Nicola for sharing !!!
Doing a great job nicola always interesting what happens on the river Thames well done.
Wonderful! We all need a little reminder now and then on how to save our planet!
Superb and well presented. History is vital ! Thank you
Nicola, This is a wonderful video and very interesting. It was great to see you had two experts to discuss different aspects of climate change and its effect on the Thames.
Great work. Thank you.
Thank you. Im so glad you enjoyed it Stephanie.
@@nicolawhitemudlark, I always enjoy your videos. I lived in England for almost five years many years ago and love visiting when I get the chance. Unfortunately it happens less frequently than in the past so I live vicariously through your videos.
For that I thank you.
I occassionally consider entering your giveaway competitions sometimes but as I live in Australia I don't think it's right to potentially saddle you with postage costs. 🙂
Cheers, Steph. 🇦🇺
These are knowledgeable and credible women who can give us Direction. how to adapt to climate change has been, from what I understand now, an ongoing historical event throughout human history. I loved when she said just pull the plug and that makes a big difference another word stop wasting electricity. Tell me more please.
What a great informative video thank you 👍
thanx, i learn so much about the Thames & archeology from your videos.
Thanks for sharing.
You made me think, which is probably a good thing to do, now and then. They make some very good points, which I can apply to my life here in Michigan, living on the edge of a lake that was here before the invasion of Europeans, and has an interesting history of things falling into it, such as 19th century train cars, and such. If I could hold my breath long enough, I might try to find what's down there. Anyway, a fascinating episode, and thanks so much for making it happen. I lift my gin-and-tonic to toast the mighty Thames. Long may it flourish, as we embrace its changing ways.
Thank you Nicola. I am always learning new things from you.
Great program!
I loved this video, it was really interesting. There is so much that we can learn from the past.
Wow,this one was a particularly eye opening episode.
At 4:10, that side by side comparison photo ( 2010 vs 2019 is shocking,that’s a huge drop in the foreshore level.
The old log drains,I am fascinated by them,and just assumed that these were naturally hollowed logs that were used because of this quality.
I can tell you,I’ve hollowed a log(using MODERN tools), and it is a difficult task that I shall never perform again!
Lastly,if Dr. Morel is reading this:
I noticed the strand of beads,I am a bead aficionado.
At a glance,they look like Western Asia glass beads,perhaps Afghani,or somewhere in that region?
I would LOVE to know,as the size of them is impressive.
My largest of that type is just over half the size,and it’s just one bead…
You need your own series on Netflix
That would be fun!
I've learned so much from watching your adventures. Would love to try this myself some day. I know licenses aren't given out anymore or as easily. I'm just fascinated by the Thames@@nicolawhitemudlark
Very interesting video,
That was fascinating, thank you 😊
Help me to understand. If the oceans are rising, how is the Thames smaller? Isnt it salt water at high tide?
It's a process called canalisation. River walls started to appear from Roman times. Through the middle ages successive walls narrowed the river creating new land. See Gus Milne's "Port of Mediaeval London" for more details. Further land was taken from the Thames in the 19th Century by Joseph Bazalgette's embankments. More embankments are being completed now as part of the Tideway project.
Brilliant. So interesting.
Thanks Nicola, that was so interesting and important!
Very interesting.
Outstanding!
Have viewed a documentary on pacific islands that are being lost for human occupancy because of sea level rise and the increase in tidal destruction. Tropical weather events have caused the relocation of entire indigenous populations. Enjoy your climate change discussions.😊
This was fascinating. Thank you for all you do to call attention to global warming.
Hi Nicola 👋👌👍🏿
I did not know that, thankyou.
👍🏼 "I'm making a difference."✌🏼
It would be interesting to see photos of the river as it was 1000 years or more ago.
Very interesstiing and any clear, thank you. No mention of the effects of the natural movement of rivers as they scour bends and deposit the material elsewhere.
Goats which have overridden 😮 local authorities' warnings to avoid building on flood plains have caused a lot of problems.
Google Layers of London to find overlays of historic maps.
Here in NZ rising tides are threatening our Maori archeological sites and history which a lot are based around the seashore.
What happened to the river during the last ice age?
Does the Thames Barrier change the tides at all?
Mudlarks can help archeologists by collecting exposed artifacts that would be washed away if left exposed. ?
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From actual experience, I'd say your hollow logs are most likely made from drift wood. You will find that any large piece of driftwood is usually completely rotten on the inside. Whereas hollowing out a good solid tree, even in this day of electric power tools, is totally ridiculous.
Longest and I bet most dug to
Why are there so many pipes and pipe stems ?? on the Thames ??.
Because they were sold pre-filled as smoke once and throw away.
they were disposable!
Climate Change is real and it is happening.
Over the years Man has changed the course of the Thames making it narrower thus changing the flow and speed of the water dependant on weather, season and the Moon.
There are other factors at play for the Thames also, we have harnessed a way to stop the Thames on unusually High tides with a danger to life when the mighty Thames Barrier is put into action along with additional flood gates at Barking and Dartford.
Sadly, the foreshore is moving, parts of it are being torn away and being redeposited, some parts of the foreshore are changing so fast there is question to determine why and how the acceleration is happening including sharper slopes of brick debris build-up which cannot be attributed just to the tide, we only need to look to Sydney Harbour in Australia a good few years ago and why the same was happening there until certain vessels were banned from being used because of damage being done to the Sydney foreshore, sadly, there is very strong evidence that the Sydney reason is a factor to irreversible damage that is also happening to the Thames foreshore too.
Thanks Maarina! xx
When archaeologist tells you to unplug the plugs its like me telling you "if you fined something you think is ancient dig it out, clean it and try to disassemble it" - might sound smart but is actually not... please don't unplug plugs - electronics expects to be plugged in - if you unplug it every time, you shorten its life because every plug in is a shock for it...
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Hana Morel, please consider not wearing nail polish. It's completely unnecessary, and very bad for the environment. Thank you for your consideration. ❤
Nicola, i think you should start "thames time team" , you could present it as the lady tony Robinson 😀