The True Purpose of Meditation | Dr. Sam Harris & Dr. Andrew Huberman
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2023
- Dr. Sam Harris shares with Dr. Andrew Huberman the true purpose of meditation.
Dr. Sam Harris is the author of multiple best-selling books and is a world-renowned public-facing intellectual on meditation, consciousness, free will, psychedelics and neuroscience. He is also the creator of Waking Up and the host of the Making Sense podcast. Dr. Andrew Huberman is a tenured professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford University School of Medicine and host of the Huberman Lab podcast.
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This clip is from the Huberman Lab episode "Dr. Sam Harris: Using Meditation to Focus, View Consciousness & Expand Your Mind." The full episode can be found on RUclips here: ruclips.net/video/-wIt_WsJGfw/видео.html
I had to stop at 2 minutes it. Too many big words, too much word salad...needs to make it more user-friendly.
Listened to this twice, plus the last 40 seconds an additional time-I think Dr. Sam Harris is speaking to the yogic value of Aparigraha, which is non-attachment or non-clinging, and in this instance, to the concept of "I"; in other words, detaching from the identity of oneself.
The deeper you go (and the more experienced/advanced you become) in the practice of meditation, you realize that all the classic benefits (stress reduction, anxiety management, more presence, feeling grounded, etc.) are of course positive and useful, however even greater than those, perhaps the best benefit is the increased ability to expand our perception beyond our self (physical body, ego mind) so our consciousness transcends to a state of full acceptance of the general "is-ness" of our existence... "it just is..." then experiencing enlightenment, peacefulness, and contentment with that deeper knowledge and acceptance.
That's my takeaway. 🧘♀
Thank you.
Love this
Than you!!!!! Also I feel that’s why we do psychedelic things lol
...and finally, into the dissolving of the "Sense of I" into InfiniteLove,
Monoism, Advaita Vedanta
I meditate 15 years every day morning and evening. That’s totally changed my life, my mind, my heart in best way…. I totally forgot about sickness…. We really don’t need any religion or philosophy… all is simple. Divine inside us and lead us. Who listen that voice?
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So 1 day is like 30 years for you? Sick
great
Sure but don’t you think praying twice a day will be considered a religion? I meditate as well but I think this is another type of self created religion
@@bitkurd religion is a totally different thing..meditation is a totally different thing
He’s describing transcendence of the ego without using spiritual language.
Exactly.
He doesn't do spiritual, unlike the majority of humans who meditate.
Well put🤌
He sounds just as hard to understand on the Waking Up app, but funnily enough, it starts making sense after a certain period of time. I'd highly recommend Waking Up to anyone and everyone, I think it does an excellent job of reframing the purpose of meditation and ensuring that meditation is not viewed as something supplementary to life, but rather should be a natural part of it (and the introductory course does it simpler than this clip).
Tldr of my insight from a year of it:
You can meditate any time you choose to do so. There are enough different kinds of environments that change what mindfulness can mean in your specific contexts. Take a moment to focus on the context and dedicate some moments of focus about what you're about to do without doing it yet. Even playing games or watching a RUclips video - you can take a moment, to appreciate and experience that particular moment to the maximum you can. That's enough.
Parsing those moments to consider them outside of their current time period - introspecting and reflecting with the INTENTION to do so - can be considered meditation. You can look back on any of your emotions or spatial experiences or internal state of being - it's up to you and it can be a different thing you choose to reflect on compared to what you may have focused on during the particular event.
I never understood what the purpose of recognizing the self was though. I did waking up for a year and still never understood. Like how is it the real purpose of meditation, sure my perception of the world changed, my surroundings no longer seemed outside of me but apart from that it didn’t really affect my life in any other way.
it took me 6 years but just a month ago it started to make more sense. That flash of realization, where there truly isnt any thought. I recognized it fully and now I am expanding it. It has been a truly life changing experience. All I can say to anyone that is struggling is have patience and trust the process. u will still have thought but u will start to realize it isnt u.
Thank you. Very helpful.
His approach to meditation it's perfect
@@yarpyarp85 And what is the purpose of knowing it isn't you?
I'm not high enough to understand this
Me neither.
Yes pope ! Salute
@@FarisSarrar _How can someone tell others that they didn't actually see the video they're commenting on, without saying they didn't see the video._
I am.
Please don't think like that
This is all great - and…this is all what the Buddha taught. There is no separate self. Thich Nhat Hanh’s modern teachings of “Interbeing” offer a means to directly experience what Sam is speaking of…not for egoic purposes but for the benefit of all. Thank you Dr Huberman and Sam Harris for this conversation 🙏🏻
I practice self compassion meditation to relax, reset to stay in the present moment and reduce anxiety.
Good effort from Sam here at putting into words the inexplicable.
Came to check out the content after not listening for a few weeks, and I found this gem? I’m stoked to give it a listen! Of course for the meditation, which I’d like to start up again, but I’ve been very interested in hearing these 2 discuss free will.
A lot of comments under this video, and RUclips comment sections in general, show how needed these meditative insights and practices are.
I love this! It aims to explain this very deep sense of perception of our reality that we as humans all experience, but can very rarely put into words. Hats off to Sam Harris for this seamless and brilliant explanation of how we as humans try and comprehend our very existence. There is a definite emphasis on this very experience during a psychedelic experience, which is interesting too.
I don't fully agree with the pursuit of meditating to come to a realization that we are not two parts but rather one so that we find some net result that benefits us. I believe the real answer to this experience is a lot more complex than our neural anatomy giving rise to these incredible states of consciousness that we have the ability to synchronize for our benefit.
I believe we are spirit beings having a natural experience. In fact, spirit, soul, and a natural body. This branches into a topic very few like to speak about freely, Christianity. If humans have the ability to have supernatural experiences (which happen all the time) be they spiritual or psychedelic; we then cannot deny the possibility or in some cases the fact that we are spiritual beings that can interact in states of consciousness far beyond what we can imagine.
In Christianity the purpose is not about trying to become one with yourself, the purpose is to synchronize yourself with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides our thoughts, actions, and decisions to live a life free of the past, focused on the present, and excited about the future by changing our hearts and affections completely.
Christianity is by no means boring! Hope this perspective gets at least one soul to explore the Holy Spirit offered to all of us so that we can interact with this natural environment with no guilt, shame, or condemnation, but rather eternal peace given to us free of charge by the one God that died for it all.
Hope this helps guide someone who is exhausted but looking to science, people, and the world for peace.
I appreciate your comment. Do you have a particular book or ? that focuses on what you're saying here? Something easy to understand. Thanks.
Very well said
I think Micheal Singer has a great Podcast about this
I could listen to this man talk for hours. Also his meditation app is awesome af.
Wow! This is the first video on RUclips that I didn't understand anything!! 😒
i was going to comment on this video and then i looked at the comments and see there is no need for another comment...your comment along with the "not being high enough" is the best lmao...it was extremely frustrating trying to watch this video
lol sooo i guess 'I' did comment after all
I think he’s just commenting on how we view our selfs and our experience and how that may change if one takes the time to meditate, as well as the implications of that change in perspective
Imagine you are living inside yourself and the body you are living in is just a suit. Meditation allows you to be aware of your body so you are more connected to that inner peace. When you take time to listen to that inner self it shares insight into making your life easier. He's basically saying that you feel more sensitive to the subtle signs around you.
What it said actually there is no inner self that it is just illiusion whole time but whatever
@@solidsnake7302 that's true I am working on listening more but I was just trying to summarize for people to understand.
some grt humans of our times. hugs to humanity who strive to make a better world
Good effort to describe in words something that's beyond the realm of senses
I’ve practiced meditation almost on a daily basis for years, this is probably one of the most cryptic descriptions on meditation that I’ve heard, and probably kind of a turn off for anyone Interested in trying meditation.. it’s actually quite simple, but difficult too
Yup, this is a horrible explanation
This is how Harris explains everything: meandering and without substance but with a soft voice that people are mesmerized by.
I heard Sam talk about this several years ago on Joe Rogan and I felt the exact same way "What the hell is he talking about? Of courses I'm behind my face, inside my head. What's the illusion there?"
And that inspired me to pursue this further. I started the Waking Up app, and although it didn't make much sense in the beginning "Look for the looker, and you won't find it" A few weeks later, I had a realization while just laying in bed at night, and I realized what he meant all along. I could SEE that the self is an illusion and the it felt so life changing. And everything he had said all throughout started making sense. I'm not kidding. I would highly recommend Waking up to anyone. The introductory course is gold. It may seem frustrating at first but it will all make sense one day. And then you keep coming back to the introductory course and keep finding it more and more insightful than the last time.
I love this man.I am a Muslim.But this man even as an atheist is amazing.I love his content and completely understand him
Harris has said on many occasions he thinks Muslims are dangerous. Tread lightly.
Man is the Eye that sees the Truth,
The Heart that feels the Truth,
And the Soul that realizes the Truth.
-Enlightened master Sri Chinmoy
I started learning meditation under Sri Chinmoy since 1989. It has been the best thing I learnt in my entire life.
It's interesting how my logical reckoning of his language is sound regardless of the circumstance, yet I wouldn't actually understand what he said in this video had I not experienced it myself.
4 to 6 am best time for meditation and chant Om
Sadhguru spoke about this concept in simpler terms - all of his life until his awakening - he knew what was “him” and what was everything else - upon awakening he wasn’t able to distinguish between the “I” and everything else - which is non-duality or union or being 1 with everything
I get this at the level of basic mind intellect but definitely not at the level of actually experiencing this. This is what Sam is saying about meditation - it’s like climbing a mountain and non-duality is what you’ll find at the summit.
I love that he has 2 coffee mugs in front of him! I love the content!! ❤
Like he said there’s 2 reasons why one meditates. For the healthy benefits it brings and secondly to inquire about the nature of the self.
Understanding how meditation leverages a subjective experience of the nature of the mind is critical. I very much support this kind of content. Keep it going, it’s the best kind of medicine, supplement and exercise one can do in order to achieve lasting happiness.
i use it to quite the mind and natural movement
Sam Harris had a great conversation with Swami Sarvapriyananda about Vedanta and Nonduality. I would love to see Andrew and Jordan Peterson have a conversation with Swami Sarvapriyananda as well.
I lost myself in meditation, i did it to find myself and understand, but it got me more lost bc i was asking an unknown source for it. I can identify when i set limits for myself i can feel my soul and god. But meditating made me be nobody and i saw that is possible to lose yourself if you want to. So I’m actually really puzzled about if meditating has any sort of benefit. To be honest i feel like it’s a scam. Like a drug
I feel like i need some guidance in this
When you turn to look for the observer while meditating you find nothing. Turns out you are not inside experiencing, you are the experience. When you are in the way with thoughts, you have diminished your awareness in the field of consciousness. In this way it is possible, like I did for decades, to live life on the surface, riding an endless stream of thoughts. Identifying with them in a personal way.
The day I realized I am as much my next thought as I am the wind, and that I have as much control of one as the other, much of my anxiety and stress evaporated.
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so interesting !
I found it difficult to understand. Luckily I have studied and watched various teachers so I know what he’s getting at. So those who are finding this difficult look to others who might be saying the same thing but in a way you understand. Rupert Spira is one that cleared it up for me with his analogy of us, being like a TV screen etc. Anyway, to get a better idea of what I’m trying to say it’s best to listen to Rupert yourself. Good luck.
Would you mind pointing me towards Sira’s video that you mentioned above?
Please continue this content of mind science! Something so important for us all.
If you’re interested in knowing about the Mind, check out Science and Philosophy in the Indian Buddhist Classics, Vol. 2: The Mind (2)
A book by His Holiness The Dalai Lama, where science and a religion dating back more than 2500 years ago come together to investigate the nature of the Mind.
I had pain in my stomach last night, and I didn't know how to inform my stomach to stop doing whatever was going on.
Stop eating often helps.
He's referring to Enlightenment.
sense of self is not illusory, centring in self makes everything illusory
I heard him say corticle thinning, that’s about all I remember
Calling the self “illusory” isn’t necessarily accurate. There’s clearly an “agent” that makes choices of its own free will, so there is clearly a “self”.
You did not understand
"Heed these words, you who wish to probe the depths of Nature: If you do not find within your Self that which you seek, neither will you find it outside. If you ignore the wonders of your own House, how do you expect to find other wonders? In you is hidden the Treasure of Treasures. Know Thyself and you will know the Universe and the Gods." --Oracle of Delphi
I agree with @Achindia 💯 %. Why does he make it so complicated to understand.
I Love You All!
Can someone break this down to me as if I was 5 years old please. Thank you
Meditation isn't just good for stress reduction and better focus but it also helps you realise that the self doesn't exist but didn't elaborate why this was beneficial.
I do it because things bother me less.
I tried it and it bothered me so I stopped
That was something I certanly wasn't noticing
I think he just means that when meditating you understand that the "I" or "me" that most people think of themselves as, does not exist.. It is an illusion. You feel instead part of something much deeper and fundamental of which we are all part. When I am meditating I am not Emmanuel, 48 years old, a father, a husband, in my pyjamas, stting on an armchair. I am part of something much bigger/deeper that is enabling this temporary human experience to happen. That's how it feels to me anyway. Now if I could feel that all the time, that would be something...
But how is this knowledge beneficial to your life?
The way you describe yourself restrict yourself. The words you use to describe yourself limits your life and experience. It makes you really loose time thinking about yourself. Most of the thoughts about yourself are useless and false because we tend to think about ourselves in emocional situations (and emotional situation are really variable) @@danidejaneiro8378
Rust Cohle would agree
I need to watch this stoned❤
The point he is trying to make starts at 4:35.. "the deeper claim that if you look for this thing.." :)
he kinda takes the long way round doesnt he? lol
I'm a huge fan of meditation and have been using it as a detachment tool for more than 350 days in a row now and plan to keep going as the nature of my type of work means it can feel like days can blend into one and it lets me get out of the stresses of my body. But this explanation by Sam Harris is one of the most off-putting explanations for meditation - would suggest people look up Ray Dalio's thoughts on meditation or some Hindu spiritualists. There is such a thing as over-intellectualising a concept without setting a theme or framework beforehand to structure the thoughts which really harms the effectiveness of the message - this is a fantastic example of that.
Lol there’s nothing difficult to understand it’s just because your brain is so conditioned to understanding a very particular form of knowledge and metaphysical viewpoint. Don’t shame things that are beyond your grasp, that is the worst thing to do if you want to learn
if you're using meditation as a detachment tool then you're really far off from what Dr. Harris is talking about. Mindfulness meditation is the tool to connect with your moment-to-moment experience.
Salute with intimidating attitude
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Sam was right, but the problem had been rightly tackled by the Buddha, and his solution is called the 4 foundations of mindfulness. Despite all the benefits gained from the first foundation of Mindfulness of Body (more specifically, breathing,) a meditator should eventually get to the fourth foundation of Mindfulness of Dhamma, i.e., to realize the conceptual content of the brain. Then the meditator is able to know that self-consciousness is merely conceptual, and there is actually no self.
This guy said absolutely nothing. wow
if you think that, you do not understand.
I cannot understand, when I try to meditate I feel more drown to past trauma
he is speaking english.. but not the one i understand.. man needs to work on his skills to connect with an audience
3:45 if you didn’t take shrooms
At best, ambling with no point, at worst, a subtle diatribe with no subtance; come to think of it, that might have been the point.
We are avatars
Dr. Huberman has patience of another level for putting up with this kind of talk. Our Indian spiritual gurus have explained meditation in such simple terms. Sam Harris is making it all sound so complicated and confusing !
I don't understand why people would find it complicated and confusing what Sam Harris is saying. Long winded, yes. But difficult?
@@ThePathOfEudaimonia Yes, he is making it difficult and complex. People follow and appreciate something only when they understand. Such a convoluted explanation is difficult to comprehend for a regular person or a youngster. Please refer the works of Swami Vivekananda, Swami Yogananda, Osho etc. on this subject to know the difference.
@@Archindia I don’t necessarily thing those people are better or worse than Sam lol. I personally found this and the Buddha’s way of explaining to be more precise. That doesn’t mean it’s accessible to everyone, it’s kind of a trade off
@@SuperAwesomedude20 The people I referred are undoubtedly better and beyond Sam. They are enlightened souls and are incomparable. Meditation mustn't be a trade off, it must be made available, accessible and comprehensible to everyone.
@@Archindia ok man. I’m not saying meditation is the trade off, I’m saying explaining things is a trade off between being precise vs accessible. Best teachers maybe can do both at different times. I do not agree those figures are enlightened necessarily but I’m happy you find them helpful
Sam really can't look at someone without raising an eyebrow
In Buddhism we teach. "Meditate to meditate". or "Meditate for meditation"
Don't expect other benifits (many people or sciencetists claim long list fo benifits) even calmness. We may or may not have these benifits but don't expect to have them.
Karmar is about cause and consequences. What we can controll is the cause.
So the self is illusory so give all your money to other people, don't be selfish 😅
I could argue that destroying/dissolving our sense of self and ego can be bad for practical and survival purposes in this earthly world
Following the advice of someone who is willfully blind to God about any spiritual practices makes about as much sense as taking nutritional advice from a cancer patient.
It’s normal in buddhist practices.
Meditate on what?
I am winning because I can take all pains
In a rambling statement he identifies what many already know intuitively, but couldn't put words to. BUT the ending needs a clear call-to-action - or else why did he bother recording this.
The subject line borders on clickbait - in that he in no way states what "The True Purpose of Meditation" is.
Why does this man sound like Nicholas Cage
why does he have 2 cups...why?
After the entire 5:21 minutes I have no better knowledge of meditations true purpose. This was - for me - a whirlwind of vocabulary that stopped before the point.
You gotta do it to get it.
To see reality and yourself as they really are. Nondualistic and impersonal.
I understood what he was saying, just not why it's important. He said that we think we are separate from our bodies and are experiencing the world from behind our eyes and brain. Meditating doesn't just help with stress reduction and better focus, but will also help you realise that the self (what you think of as "you") doesn't exist. He didn't say why it was good to know this.
Does meditation help cure TDS? Asking for a friend
Meditation cures all forms of politarding.
Where is casualty hides? You cant find it by experience 😝
Sam Harris should use visualisations to explain his thoughts... I am sure he in not blabbering, but....but..
What!!!!!!!
What
In Islam we doing "Shalat"
The most rudimentary explanation is: the “self” you feel like or what you are calling “I” doesn’t actually exist. It’s just the product of thought. Meditation is not about getting rid of it, meditation is about recognizing that it was never there to begin with. You can’t get rid of something if it’s not there. Once you no longer have a “self” to cling to, everything is open and free.
What does that mean, that everything is open and free? Do you have some examples from your daily life?
@@danidejaneiro8378 everything being open just means that every experience is all happening in the same context. Sights, sounds, sensations, thoughts are all arising in the same context. True freedom comes when you are able to recognize you are not separate from experience. You are not on the edge looking out into the world having an experience. Everything is arising in the same space. You are not separate from experience. That’s true freedom. If you are more curious about the nature of your mind I would recommend his app, Waking Up.
So basically he is saying that self doesn't exist and It's just an illusion. That is so counter intuitive and depressing. As a theist i can easily explain subjective experience through soul. But because sam harris is a materliast and consciousness isn't something that can be empirically verified that's why he is calling it illusion.
Sam is the GOAT
He is saying meditation helps you realize that the separation between mind(consciousness) and body is an illusion. He does meander but it's fun.
Is mind and consciousness the same thing? Or is consciousness the awareness that arises from the mind, in result being able to observe the thoughts that also arise from the mind (which include the 'I'), making it seem like a dualistic experience. Or might it be true that there is in fact dualism: consicousness as an awareness that is seperate from the thoughts of the mind and the body.
Mthe-I think you are not far off Mthe. Harris would define consciousness as “the space in which everything arises”. I’m not sure how he would define “mind”, but I if I would have to take a guess, I think he’d say that the mind is the activity of the brain. So the mind produces whatever is noticed.
Now to your point that dualism might be true, in the sense that consciousness is separate from that which arises in it, that might be true. However, i think this is looking at the problem of dualism vs non-duality from a philosophical and “logical” perspective. What is meant in a Tibetan Buddhist context, is that duality would be the feeling of being separate from experience. There is an “I” experiencing experience. While non-duality would be a state in which there is only the experience. Paradoxically: “you” find “yourself” becoming part of what’s going on. Very often Buddhism is much more about the experience rather than the abstractions of experience.
Just Pray, you'll get better results
Praying is a form of meditation. A contemplative one.
Facts, I just increase my quantity of faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ whenever I don’t feel content
do you have the right to wonder more than 15min.?
we're gamers
Folks pissed poor folks are all dismissed by Sudan Suleiman !
Consciousness is best understood by joining the Mariens, trying out for the Navy Seals, or becoming an Army Ranger, both courses. Meditation is something one can try at an older age.
No one's talking about demons waiting to snatch a new body when you float out of it but the devil worshipers know this. Don't do it kids!
What the HELL DID HE SAY??
I have no idea what he’s talking about
You are not in control. The “I” you talk of Sam is in fact an illusion; ego. The is not dualism, logical or paradoxically. “ you; the person “ don’t exist.. you are trying to rationalise that which can not be spoke of. It’s not just interesting to go beyond it is truth. We are “ consciousness.” It’s like you are trying to explain God.. You can’t do it. 😊💚🙏✨🧬
uhhh.... what?
Steevkelly--what is hard to understand for you?
So if we can't name "that thing" or that "I self" that doesn't exist, then why talk about it all???? Talking about implies that IT DOES exist, ie. "that thing" that Sam Harris states in this interview. I've heard this from countless others that explain Zen, Buddhism, meditation, etc. This is what I find so frustrating, this back and forth between the "mystical" side of Buddhism and meditation and the materialistic side of these these, ie. "the science". It's as if a handful of these experts know a secret, but yet that can't explain it because "this thing doesn't exist, therefore they talk in circles sounding smart. Sounds like a perfect example of a logical fallacy to me.
I think the problem is that "that thing" is beyond any kind of concept knowable by the mind. However, since most people strongly believe themselves to be a separate body and mind, a concession must be made in order for them to be drawn closer to the truth, that means it must be conceptualized and talked about.
If everyone already clearly knew the truth, there would not be any need to speak about in any form.
Sam Harris should meditate more. This dude got too many bugs in his head.
Basically there's nothing there
The major benefit of meditation is the ability to realize that you are not you...
I just realised that Andrew Huberman is just a reincarnation of Plato. Like if you agree
P. S.
ROFL
I go Gym make the best version of myself and go hunt girls who with my boyfriend anniversary 😂
Always end up expecting more but get disappointed by Harris.
Way to confusing !
This dude is yapping
jesus christ this was hard to follow.
There’s a pun here somewhere 😁
Meditaion is a farce. Just take a nap and get back to work.