Thanks for making this clear. Too bad the supply chain in this game is still needlessly complex... All we need is a simple get x at y, unload at z and repeat command. Your own stations and traders shouldn't be transferring goods via buy/sell orders and cluttering up the ledger. I wonder what keeps them from simply giving us a transfer goods command.
this a milion times... like seriously: -Select ship -Click transport resources -Then click on a station that has any resource and a list comes up with the available resources on that station select one. -Then click on the other station you want to transport it -Click on repeat command. DONE !
I was just now trying to figure this out. I took a break, opened RUclips and this video was right there. Didn't search for it. Crazy! Thanks so much for the info!
It would be nice to be able to memorize a ship's order list with repeat order command, so that you can recall it with other ships. This command is great because you can distribute all your resources with 100 transporters traveling continuously between all your stations. Unfortunately, setting up 100 ships by hand is quite tedious :(
I wonder if you could put them in a fleet and assign the commander to the station? Or would that just make all the subordinates follow the lead ship to the station it is going to? Do they still work independently, even if they are in a fleet?
And they clog unassigned ship list, they could at lest divide combat and civilian ships. Shure there is icon on the ship type but that is not enough. I heave ui scale/enlarge to 1.3 so I need to name ships short, whish I could put more descriptive names to ships.
@@TENGILL Unfortunately the repeat orders behavior is completely independent, you cannot group it with the mimic command. This change would probably have been a great solution
I really hope this gets an overhaul. As I found my empire quickly expanding and using this to sell wares across the galaxy...which was okay but then I quickly found that this doesn't seem to work with fleets... which means setting up my new trade outposts populates my "unorganized ships" section of my property. Dear Egosoft if you see this; Let "Mimic Behavior" copy the repeat order commands that are given to the fleet leader (buy, sell, ect)
I've recently become aware of how difficult it is to build a properly planned and selfsustaining factory complex without constantly losing workcrew, something i also believe is an overall issue with the game. Everytime i build a station, i set it up to slightly overproduce everything, which leads of all production units that that gets full, loses their workcrew because there is no work being done. The only solution for this, currently, is to plan and build stations which aren't really self sustaining and can't produce enough products. I really hope they sort this so you don't lose crew.
Don't know what you are refering to exactly. But usually workforce goes down if you don't supply enough food and medicine to your people on the station or if you mix multiple different habitats, i.e. Teladi with Argon, and only supply one of them with food. Note that the outlined consumption to production ratio is based on the current number of workforce. It is therefore likely that you didn't expand on the food/medicine part while growing your station. The workforce in addition to that is not required at all to run a station. It will only provide additional yields per production cycle. Loosly speaking you get just additional products for free when supplying enough workforce. If you really plan your station to operate on the limit of that "overproduction" then you should grow your station very slowly as the workforce needs to go hand in hand with the overall station expansion
Also, if you don't want to have that many single traders for the repeating orders part, you can test with the fleet command mimic commanders behavior. I only did this with mining fleets so far, but it should work with one repeat orders commander as well
I have been using mining stations for a while and they work so much better. however, it is possible to have a mining station to do both 1 mineral and 1 gas. without causing issues since there is no overlap.
If you are on 4.1 beta, you can have 4 minerals and 3 gases per mining station no problem, because the bug caused by multiple solids or multiple gasses at a single station is sorted out now.
I am wondering how would AI react if you build one station for all (raw) resources, have only traders assigned to station and set up different miners to supply that station with repeat order...
My issue is I can't use up all the goods, I still want to sell to AI, but want my stations to get it. Also do they actually pay money from one station account to the other?
Is it just me or is that no longer functional if distance is too great for the captain's rating, even when using repeat orders? I had a two star captain caught in a loop of "not finding" trade offers that were too far away, even though satellites clearly showed that the configured trades were very possible. If I moved the cargo vessel within two sectors of the solar power stations, it suddenly found wares to buy, but would now refuse to sell to my trading station. Such a change is devastating to Terran players trying to establish temselves in the Protectorate.
@@CaptainCollins Thanks! My own experience is that L-size solid miners are good only if the density is high enough, say, around 20/km^3 or more. But in the asteroid belt they suck...
@@conradolacerda Makes sense there a bigger and have to constantly move around in the asteroid belts to find resources and may get stuck ,while if they see a big block of resources they can just dig their way into it since they don't have look constantly where the next yield is . There path finding for jumping trough gates is atrocious though especially when there are other big ships trying to pass through and that along with being bad in the asteroid belts makes them really slow .
Is there any reason why he assigns the station traders instead of just using repeat orders to distribute the ore/silicon? I've tried both methods and it just seems like station traders have a lot more downtime/idling compared to repeat orders.
No, because "Distribute Wares" is limited by the star rating of your pilot. More than 5 systems away? Will never work. Your pilot only has 1 star? Good luck finding anything :) When you have specific stations, that's the only reliable method.
Any reason i cant transfer wares or trade silicon from my L freighter and my Supply station? I am trying to transfer silicon and its greyed out. I have cargo drones on the ship and station so i cant see why its not working.
Do you know if there is a mod for X4 that includes X2 capital ships? I only found one with smaller ships. I love the Argon and Boron carriers. If you install a ship mod, does it replace all the current ships in the game or it adds them next to the already existing ones?
I tried to set up supply station chains so i WOULDNT have a million unassigned traders on repeat orders...and they work...except for fucking energy cells half the time.
This method does not work if the station "buying" the ware does not have an operating budget. My shipyard station has an estimated budget of 500 million CR. If I dont feed it with at least a 50 million CR it wont "buy" the wares.
I agree. I have the same problem where my traders only sell a part of their load e.g. medical supplys (like 150 out off 1k loaded) if the station does not have enough money. In the worst case if i allocate no money at all they wont sell any wares even if the sell price is set at the lowest for the traders. In the current build of the game its very annoying to supply your own stations.
Hi, I'm live at the moment and proofed that it is exactly working like I told you in this video. The trading station has 0 credits and the L traders are unloading ALL wares just like showed. It has to be something else, that's causing trouble in your game. If you like, join our Discord and we can have a look.
Maybe in version 556.2 of this game the traders of this fantasy technologically advanced distant future will finally figure out a way to transport raw materials with their transport ships instead of having to use mining ships. But hey, at least there is a mod for that. But cmon Egosoft, really?
I don't get the Point, why you don't just trade the refined product ? I just calculated it for Ore/ReMetals. You need 2,72 Ore for 1 Refined Metal. Ore is 10m³ ReMe is 14m³. Taking the Shuyaku for ReMetals (44.000 m³) and the Crane for Ore (57600 m³). You could Transport 3142 Units of ReMetals with the Shuyaku and 5760 Units of Ore with the Crane. 5760 / 2,72 = 2117 the equivalent of ReMetals you would get with the Ore-Trader per Run. It's a little closer with gas, but why the hassle with if you could just trade the intermediate product.
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Thanks for making this clear. Too bad the supply chain in this game is still needlessly complex... All we need is a simple get x at y, unload at z and repeat command. Your own stations and traders shouldn't be transferring goods via buy/sell orders and cluttering up the ledger. I wonder what keeps them from simply giving us a transfer goods command.
this a milion times...
like seriously:
-Select ship
-Click transport resources
-Then click on a station that has any resource and a list comes up with the available resources on that station select one.
-Then click on the other station you want to transport it
-Click on repeat command.
DONE !
I was just now trying to figure this out. I took a break, opened RUclips and this video was right there. Didn't search for it. Crazy! Thanks so much for the info!
Thanks Captian!
It would be nice to be able to memorize a ship's order list with repeat order command, so that you can recall it with other ships.
This command is great because you can distribute all your resources with 100 transporters traveling continuously between all your stations.
Unfortunately, setting up 100 ships by hand is quite tedious :(
I wonder if you could put them in a fleet and assign the commander to the station?
Or would that just make all the subordinates follow the lead ship to the station it is going to?
Do they still work independently, even if they are in a fleet?
And they clog unassigned ship list, they could at lest divide combat and civilian ships. Shure there is icon on the ship type but that is not enough. I heave ui scale/enlarge to 1.3 so I need to name ships short, whish I could put more descriptive names to ships.
@@TENGILL Unfortunately the repeat orders behavior is completely independent, you cannot group it with the mimic command. This change would probably have been a great solution
Great information video as always, thank you Captain!
Nice and easy to understand . Thanks Captain
Epic, thanks Captain!
I really hope this gets an overhaul.
As I found my empire quickly expanding and using this to sell wares across the galaxy...which was okay but then I quickly found that this doesn't seem to work with fleets... which means setting up my new trade outposts populates my "unorganized ships" section of my property.
Dear Egosoft if you see this; Let "Mimic Behavior" copy the repeat order commands that are given to the fleet leader (buy, sell, ect)
I've recently become aware of how difficult it is to build a properly planned and selfsustaining factory complex without constantly losing workcrew, something i also believe is an overall issue with the game. Everytime i build a station, i set it up to slightly overproduce everything, which leads of all production units that that gets full, loses their workcrew because there is no work being done.
The only solution for this, currently, is to plan and build stations which aren't really self sustaining and can't produce enough products.
I really hope they sort this so you don't lose crew.
That sound like a save game that would be interesting for Egosoft. Provide that info in their forums, maybe it gets fixed 👍
Don't know what you are refering to exactly. But usually workforce goes down if you don't supply enough food and medicine to your people on the station or if you mix multiple different habitats, i.e. Teladi with Argon, and only supply one of them with food. Note that the outlined consumption to production ratio is based on the current number of workforce. It is therefore likely that you didn't expand on the food/medicine part while growing your station. The workforce in addition to that is not required at all to run a station. It will only provide additional yields per production cycle. Loosly speaking you get just additional products for free when supplying enough workforce. If you really plan your station to operate on the limit of that "overproduction" then you should grow your station very slowly as the workforce needs to go hand in hand with the overall station expansion
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Also, if you don't want to have that many single traders for the repeating orders part, you can test with the fleet command mimic commanders behavior.
I only did this with mining fleets so far, but it should work with one repeat orders commander as well
OMG, thank you!
Great videos! Thanks!
Ayone know if Egosoft plans on adding trading ships that have universal storage like the 2 yaki ship's?
No info on that yet, but it's a nice idea for the next DLC "ahoy" 👍
I have been using mining stations for a while and they work so much better. however, it is possible to have a mining station to do both 1 mineral and 1 gas. without causing issues since there is no overlap.
That's what I said.
@@CaptainCollins didn't you say to have a separate station for each resource?
@@ADMNtek AND that solid and liquid will not interfere with each other, if you want to do it that way. I didn't said it clear enough at 5:57
@@CaptainCollins oops must have blanked out at that part.
If you are on 4.1 beta, you can have 4 minerals and 3 gases per mining station no problem, because the bug caused by multiple solids or multiple gasses at a single station is sorted out now.
I see that you too are a fan of Tagons Toughs
I am wondering how would AI react if you build one station for all (raw) resources, have only traders assigned to station and set up different miners to supply that station with repeat order...
My issue is I can't use up all the goods, I still want to sell to AI, but want my stations to get it. Also do they actually pay money from one station account to the other?
Is it just me or is that no longer functional if distance is too great for the captain's rating, even when using repeat orders?
I had a two star captain caught in a loop of "not finding" trade offers that were too far away, even though satellites clearly showed that the configured trades were very possible. If I moved the cargo vessel within two sectors of the solar power stations, it suddenly found wares to buy, but would now refuse to sell to my trading station.
Such a change is devastating to Terran players trying to establish temselves in the Protectorate.
Noticed you only use M-size miners. Are L-size miners any good in your experience?
Never wanted to spend that much on L class. But I heard that L gas miners are better, pre miners are worse.
@@CaptainCollins Thanks!
My own experience is that L-size solid miners are good only if the density is high enough, say, around 20/km^3 or more. But in the asteroid belt they suck...
@@conradolacerda Makes sense there a bigger and have to constantly move around in the asteroid belts to find resources and may get stuck ,while if they see a big block of resources they can just dig their way into it since they don't have look constantly where the next yield is . There path finding for jumping trough gates is atrocious though especially when there are other big ships trying to pass through and that along with being bad in the asteroid belts makes them really slow .
Is there any reason why he assigns the station traders instead of just using repeat orders to distribute the ore/silicon? I've tried both methods and it just seems like station traders have a lot more downtime/idling compared to repeat orders.
Isn't it possible to achieve something similar with "Distribute Wares", if you tell your ships to only trade with your own faction?
No, because "Distribute Wares" is limited by the star rating of your pilot. More than 5 systems away? Will never work. Your pilot only has 1 star? Good luck finding anything :)
When you have specific stations, that's the only reliable method.
Any reason i cant transfer wares or trade silicon from my L freighter and my Supply station? I am trying to transfer silicon and its greyed out. I have cargo drones on the ship and station so i cant see why its not working.
Do you know if there is a mod for X4 that includes X2 capital ships? I only found one with smaller ships.
I love the Argon and Boron carriers.
If you install a ship mod, does it replace all the current ships in the game or it adds them next to the already existing ones?
I tried to set up supply station chains so i WOULDNT have a million unassigned traders on repeat orders...and they work...except for fucking energy cells half the time.
anyone know where can i get capital ship (biggest ship) like tokyo and so on ? please im new player X4: Foundations 🥺😭
This method does not work if the station "buying" the ware does not have an operating budget. My shipyard station has an estimated budget of 500 million CR. If I dont feed it with at least a 50 million CR it wont "buy" the wares.
I agree. I have the same problem where my traders only sell a part of their load e.g. medical supplys (like 150 out off 1k loaded) if the station does not have enough money. In the worst case if i allocate no money at all they wont sell any wares even if the sell price is set at the lowest for the traders. In the current build of the game its very annoying to supply your own stations.
Hi, I'm live at the moment and proofed that it is exactly working like I told you in this video. The trading station has 0 credits and the L traders are unloading ALL wares just like showed. It has to be something else, that's causing trouble in your game. If you like, join our Discord and we can have a look.
@@CaptainCollins I can confirm this still does not work. Im happy to show you whenever.
EDIT: My mistake. I thought I was on 4.1.
I wish we could rename NPC employees because I really want Captain Collins to fly my flagship.
still valid in 5.0?
Yes
Maybe in version 556.2 of this game the traders of this fantasy technologically advanced distant future will finally figure out a way to transport raw materials with their transport ships instead of having to use mining ships. But hey, at least there is a mod for that. But cmon Egosoft, really?
whats the name of the mod ??
@@zordiarkdarkeater8625 Universal Transport
I don't get the Point, why you don't just trade the refined product ? I just calculated it for Ore/ReMetals. You need 2,72 Ore for 1 Refined Metal. Ore is 10m³ ReMe is 14m³. Taking the Shuyaku for ReMetals (44.000 m³) and the Crane for Ore (57600 m³). You could Transport 3142 Units of ReMetals with the Shuyaku and 5760 Units of Ore with the Crane. 5760 / 2,72 = 2117 the equivalent of ReMetals you would get with the Ore-Trader per Run. It's a little closer with gas, but why the hassle with if you could just trade the intermediate product.
Refined Metals is not a terran ware and will not be useful. This is Cradle of Humanity DLC.
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