Lucy Letby: Prison should be on 'RED ALERT' warns former Met Police Detective
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2023
- Former Metropolitan Police Detective Peter Bleksley weighs in on the sentencing of the former nurse who has been given a whole-life order for her crimes.
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The NHS should face consequences for allowing this amount of gross negligence to come to pass
Definitely
We own the NHS. Why punish an already failing system.
If the NHS get hammered more then everyone's waiting times will go up.
Bad people do bad stuff.
When you say ¨NHS¨ I hope what you mean is ¨the bosses¨. 😏
If financial the NHS won't pay it, we will.
@tomungless2852 yeah it's unfortunate the innocent seems to pay for all professional negligence from health to legal matters
Now that she’s convicted, the public enquiry ought to focus on the corrupt NHS executives in the hospital and board who protected and apologised to her! All of this to the detriment of its patients and those who fund public services. They used HR rules and PC legislation to protect her, whilst damaging the very people these rules were apparently introduced to protect. This case speaks volumes to the issues with Britain currently. We live in a upside down society where the innocent are victimised and harmed and the evil among us are protected. Sickening
This happens all over the UK, not just in the NHS, and not just in the Public Sector. Reputation management is more important than individuals .
@@garyh1572 Reputation management. That's the reason why whistleblowers are punished.
And the doctors who failed to take the matter to the Police themselves....Irrespective of the failings of the management, the doctors could have.
How old are you? seven! If you've nothing to say, say nothing.
@@gpw203 would certainly save quite a few bob of taxpayers money if she does 'off' herself. Takes a huge chunk of money to keep someone in prison for the rest of their natural.
Who were the managers who forced an apology to her before investigating? They are in the wrong line of work!
They are in the wrong Bulding ought to be in a prison Bulding
They should be digging ditches 12 hours a day no pay
Management are not medical trained ,they have no idea about people ,some are from big stores executives know about tins of peas etc etc.
They also need to go to prison
these hospital managers are thieves anyway, all of them need arresting
There should be CCTV cameras in EVERY hospital ward for babies now...what a shocking state of affairs for the NHS
Not just for babies but for everyone.
I think in one country they have cameras for each baby and it is sync to your smart phone so you can check on your baby any time. Great idea
The amount of hidden cameras in the hospitals I’m shocked nobody caught her
There’s definitely a lot more to this store then they’re telling
@@TheNonamedgirl That leaves around 3500 nhs nurses that aren’t caring..
@@davidbillyard6629 theres about 50 in hospital I know
No justice until hospital management who are complicit by enabling this are in the dock, charged and locked up.
And if after appeal she's found to be innocent (after all, there was no proof of her guilt) should the doctors that blew the whistle be jailed for getting it wrong?
A proper Investigation would look into that by pouring over evidence and analysing the statements of, as you put it, 'whistle blowing doctors' who got it wrong. @@paulroberts7544
@@paulroberts7544
She’s not innocent….
The evidence was circumstantial, but overwhelming.
She was caught red handed on at least 2 occasions, where it had literally just happened and she was the only person in the room.
In fact, there may be more victims
There were 17 other baby deaths during her time working on that unit, all of which are now going to be investigated and put under the microscope
@@paulroberts7544 what appeal. She won't get one.
These managers are utter scum who feared a unfair dissmissal claim from Letby who did not what a child killer on their whatch too many of these people belive the is no fult with their instution blaimming the doctors making the apologise WTF ! the ... Police schools hospitals and local authoriies are rank with this corprate culture of cover it up at any cost ..... How do these people sleep at night well very well in their fevered beds in luxuary home with full bellies these people are so aragent and intitaled we need a law of corprate mansloughter and lock up some these incopitant scum
The senior manager at the NHS who told the consultants they would not remove Letby from the ward three weeks before the Hospital called the police should be sacked and never allowed to work in the NHS again.
Name and Shame them, sack them, then prosecute. Trouble is that they always get moved on to somewhere new and receive a bloody massive paycheck. Corruption at the highest levels.
NHS not fit for purpose.
@@angelaharris6577 oh yes, the Peter Principle at it best
@@angelaharris6577 It's the entire public sector, not just the NHS.
The nursing chief Kerry something...who a Dr confronted only to be told forget it.
They could write a letter of apology to the doctors they force to write an apology letter to letby
The executives who turned their blind eye to this need to be prosecuted for wilful neglect. This is corporate manslaughter by them at the very least and should carry custodial sentences as well. It is only by throwing the book at them will it be prevented in the future. The NHS has been deified for decades now and this is what that has created.
I doubt it's the deification, I'd think it's the backdoor privatization of the NHS.
She is not the only one who needs to face justice, the people who continued to do nothing when told of what was going on also need to face justice
The bosses in that hospital must be fired . They are guilty of gross negligence.
This is what must happen.and no pay off .
Charged and convicted themselves of gross negligence leading to death, as well as threats they made to the doctors raising concerns about Letby.
As far as I'm aware, most have moved on to other posts, or have retired. They will however, be expected to assist with the upcoming enquiry into what happened...and why.
What shook me to the core was hearing a couple had tried for a baby and eventually after many years, had had twins! Letby killed one of these twins, broke my heart!!
It’s heartbreaking 💔
It's beyond believe
@@user-zy2sk6kc9v *beyond belief
I can imagine how devastating it would be to those parents. Many parents suffered at the hands of Lucy Letby. There are more investigations of her killing babies even before she worked at that hospital. Yes, it is heartbreaking.
This is beyond evil
If she survives a whole life in prison. Inmates don’t take kindly to children abusers!!! If they get their hands on her, she’s be finished
She’s a child murderer, not an abuser.
And she is in a female prison, not a male prison. Female sexual exploitation serial killers do not receive the same treatment in female prisons that happens to males in male prisons where they have to be segregated.
She hit the babies too that’s abuse
@@sassyt1545of course that goes without saying. I was generalising as to the outcome whatever they’ve done
@@hazelhadley-britt6396 I don’t agree. Women are far more dangerous!
The management who let her "pass on by" should also be found guilty. Lesson's will NOT be learnt.
Worked in the NHS. Bullying is rife, cover ups and overpaid managers who don’t want their Trust to have a bad name. Glad to have left.
What a sensible gentleman he is. Very articulate.
He was a Detective at New Scotland Yard.
Bleksley is 'based' and is a highly experienced and respected police officer with a very distinguished career behind him. People quite rightly pay close attention to what he has to say.
An old school proper copper. You just don't see that anymore.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 couldn’t agree more.
It would be nice if he would acknowledge the countless lives lost through abortion in the UK.
@@jameshogan6142 sorry don’t see the relevance.
They should put in with the general prison population, then there will be 'justice'.
I think she'd suffer more in a room with zero social contact for 50 years. Being raped and murdered is short lasting pain.
But she wouldn't live to serve her sentence. They would simply save her from having to top herself.
Like it or not her legal rights entitle her to segregation. Probably the prison hospital ward for assessment then specialist segregation unit.
Hmmm She will get the easy way out
What type of room and environment will she be held in I seen today a beautiful place with pictures, lovely furniture no hardship visits from family and friends ect...for what she has done just doesn't seem right RIP precious babies🌺
What about the rest of the nhs workers who refused to act...?.. criminal charges need to be brought against them.
Any more exposing nhs staff will result in tic toc dances
Well done to the lady who said that this murderer is a coward. She is !!
I've called her a coward since she refused to appear for the hearing of her verdict and only a coward would target the most vulnerable. She will kill herself of this I am sure she's a nurse she'll find a way. Israel Keyes bit chucks out his own arms so hopefully the other inmates remove her teeth.
She's your typical liberal.
It is obvious that Lucy Letby the monster is a coward.
Predators as you can read the PSYCHOLOGY NEVER EVER RECOGNIZE OTHERS OR LAWS ..THEY ARE ABOVE ALL OTHERS AND ALL LAWS...THEY MAKE THEIR OWN LAWS... they all have "GOD COMPLEX" mind sets ...with no concience moral or empathetic attributes.
Her self ENTITLED MINDSET would not allow her to bow to OUR LAWS ever THE BABIES RIGHTS TO LIVE THE PARENTS RIGHTS DIDN'T MATTER AND NOR WILL THE COURTS.
She will become she was very soon
As a retired nursery nurse, this has affected me deeply. It’s beyond belief that this monster has been allowed to kill and injure beautiful, tiny babies on such a huge scale (and I don’t believe we’ve heard the end yet) because senior management put the reputation of their hospital before the lives of children! It’s incomprehensible and makes an absolute mockery of all the safeguarding procedures that have to be followed when working with children! All of those who ignored the warnings also have a part to play in these murders and injuries and MUST be punished by the courts for their negligence, otherwise justice is not done, as far as I’m concerned 😡 my heart goes out to all who’ve suffered. Absolutely gutting.
I hear you. You dedicated your working life and this thing destroys it. Don't despair. They're are more good than evil. Don't let the devil get the best of you. I recognise your good work and so do many others.
Yes I agree, I’m only a carer, and the amount of safeguards we have in place, policies and procedures we have to follow, it does make a mockery of all of it , it’s astonishing that this has happened and just shows that there are massive holes in the system that have to be addressed. It’s so tragic that so many innocents have had to lose their lives for this to be realised.
But l dont think impact statements all the actual sentences would have affected her
@rachelslocombe3567 you're a Carer. Not only a carer. Where would we be without carers. So much respect for you and all care givers. Its a hard job . I couldn't do it. Don't play your role down. You're a carer. 😇👏
Give senior management a life sentence. This is one more case of burocratic incompetence.
I can’t believe she was allowed to stay out of the court room to listen to the impact statements from the victims 😞
Really? Wow!!! That's so wrong!
Government apparently trying to change that within law
I don't understand. How on earth 😢
If a defendant pleads guilty, then yes. If they protest their innocence to the end, then it's not so clear cut.
@@yggdrasil9039 can I ask why? Thanks 🤗
So much for the human rights of the victims if these perpetrators can choose not to attend the court.
It’s just unbelievable that they are allowed that choice!
Don't worry its in hand to be changed.
She was in court but refused to leave the holding cell in my eyes she has no rights
It’s a crazy, woke world we’re living in.
Won’t be long before murderers will be able to “choose” not to serve their sentence….. they have human rights, don’t ya know !
I don’t see how a murderer gets to have their ‘rights’ when they’ve snuffed out any rights their victims may have had 😡 this country is going to the dogs with its wokism. She should have been forced into the courtroom come what may, IMO
What about the rights of the victims she murdered!! Her rights shouldn’t matter now!!!
Then what would define us as being different?
@@wayneelliott2462you're confused about the difference between a baby murderer and someone who says criminals shouldn't have the same rights as the rest of us? Seriously?
I am talking about the legislation that is in place right now, someone's view alone cannot and will not change or trump that legislation!@@apebass2215
HRL can say whatever they want doesn't mean murder es shouldn't be dragged!!!
Human rights always matter.
All " NHS Managers" who have absolutely no medical qualifications should be sacked and replaced with properly qualified Doctors and Consultants.
I absolutely agree with you. It needs to be stopped. Not just another level of administration to cover up the lack of expertise
I agree, a big shake up in all department and social services, again and again children being let down get rid of the dumb people!!!!!
That is why you have a Chief Medical Officer as part of executive leadership, but it sounds like he was weak against the rest of the ELT.
You are very naive and don’t have a clue how corrupt the nhs is. The doctors and consultants are the worst. A bunch of grandiose narcissists . They all worship at masonic temples and promote anti white and anti christian agendas in exchange for promotions. They are the drug dealers of the big pharma who own them. I don’t even want to say much about research and how corrupt that is. Sometimes ignorance is bliss
Same with the Police Service
The managers committed criminal negligence! Put them in prison! NOW!
yes I agree with you.they. must have known what was going on
Oh shut up!
The trust management are guilty. They allowed this to happen after the warnings from experts. They are just arrogant, I worked in the NHS this rubbish management should be sacked on the spot.
The complete truth has yet to be unveiled
I totally agree with you. There is a lot more to this than we are being told.
Yes! Probably not her first kills!
Yes. There is also the question of what SHE thought motivated her to do this. I mean, unless she's in a satanic cult, or was in some way not competent to stand trial, SOMETHING made her do it. The public understandably wants to know more, since people want to try and grasp how such horrific things can happen.
Tip of the iceberg.
I agree!
For that crime hanging should be brought in again
I'm all for capital punishment, only problem is the justice system in this country cant be trusted. This particular conviction is pretty shaky if we are going to be honest.
But hanging would let her off the hook. People want her to rot in jail, so they hope she will live a long time.
It poses a nice dilemma. They want her to live long and be made to suffer as much as possible, but if she is regularly beaten up, injured, fed adulterated food, etc. and probably pretty miserable, even depressed in consequence, then she won't be healthy and won't live very long. Perhaps they'd be better off asking, not for her to be hanged, but to be killed in some long, slow, painful and degrading way. I'm not sure how this could be done, but from reading the comments here, it looks like there are plenty of people who'd love to think about it and come up with some really revolting ideas.
No it shouldn't, police are not clever sherlocks, they are very fallible, they are mostly stupid and they DO make mistakes.
A public hanging at least
@@tendrosstoodross2976
Letby's conviction is not in the least shakey. Why do you believe it is ?
She won't kill herself. It actually takes a few minutes of real courage to inflict fatal harm on yourself. An infant murderer is the definition of a coward.
I actually don't agree, suicide is the ultimate cowardice
@@helenhenninger835that is an incredibly toxic statement. How many friends have you lost to suicide
@@helenhenninger835 It's good that you've never lost a loved one to suicide. However, your post is so offensive and cruel. You obviously don't know what you're talking about and are too judgmental to even care anyway....
It's hard for me to believe that criminals don't have to attend court if they choose not to. They've committed crimes; they've forfeited their rights to do as they please by committing those crimes. Yes, they should be shackled if need be, but they should have no choice in the matter of whether they attend court to hear the victims' impact statements and the judge's verdict. SMH that this is even a thing in once-Great Britain!
she should have been dragged into the court room and made to face the sentencing. cowardice to the end.
@@foreverhungry84
ABSOLUTELY 💯🎯🇺🇸🇬🇧
But, you’ve got to protect the climate. Also, the amount of police needed to accompany her to court. I think they didn’t have the manpower as after the stunt by Greenpeace, Sunak will now have half the met following him on holiday and khan, because of ulez having the other half.
People like Letby, use 'human rights', as a device to hold onto the 'control' that drives them to do these things in the first place! It's all about attention and an imaginary 'power' she believes she deserves.
If I was innocent I'd be clawing my way into that court room and you wouldn't be able to shut me up. Not sure why LL didn't do that if she says she's innocent. There's no way I'd even allow the judge to speak I'd be shouting over everyone
As a parent with a 2 week old baby, this is beyond belief incomprehensible
I’ve got a 9 year old I agree! Last week I walked across Westminster bridge where a man was stabbed once, could you believe it? I recently flew to India, and that’s only 7000 miles away from the rough area that the plane fell,out of the sky a few years ago. Could you imagine how shocking that was? I was in Austria. Few years ago, and you know who was born there? Yes! HIM!
If she wants to end it all then let her get on with it.
Now go after those who enabled & protected her for YEARS!!
Agree 100%
@@wespaul9345So do I.
She chose to hurt those babies instead of herself, so I don’t think her get out of jail free card should be played now. But I agree - she’s not the only who needs locking up.
Dr Dewi Evans, paediatrician & expert witness in this tragic case, condemned the managers of this hospital & compared them to negligent parents when it came to putting their own needs above those of others, he also said that this attitude is endemic throughout the NHS. This erudite man is the only person I've ever heard say this, the whole edifice needs to be dismantled & his words should force that to start immediately.
Get the NHS MANAGEMENT. Why did this go on ignoring whistleblowers? Why?
Highly paid managers that would faint if they actually had a job to do
The Doctors who raised concerns, were bullied by the management? were the top management involved?
That Hollywood baby blood adrenochrome harvesting theory doesn't seem so off now, does it.
Thinking of their careers
@@GloriaL28they are very busy propagating a particular style of managing a very big system- their way.
They are so arrogant that they live in the comfort zone of not having to hold the discomfort that needs serious critical thinking skills to decide on a course of action- that what the consultants who came with their concerns did. Teflon thinking for management where they protect themselves with policies and can use these to essentially threaten clinical staff. Modern technology gives them fantastic opportunities to build on their product- it’s a bit like “made in China” that’s why there’s an exponential increase in the “stuff” they can hide behind.
Thank you Peter Bleksley for voicing what most are thinking.
Most people are thinking as if it is still the 1600s when it comes to these serious subjects, including the police, media.
She's a vicious serial killer. Keeping trophies, writing down her deeds, etc.
This evil person deserves to rot in prison.
But what if she didn't do it.......
And in hell
Paul gavin I hope there is no modern day Lord Longford skulking around to visit her, take her out and campaign for her release.
And yet still there are people out there who think she is innocent and that a huge miscarriage of justice has occurred. Unbelievable.
She did it!
As an American where our convicted murderers must be in the courtroom for victim impact statements and sentencing, I am CHEERING you on in getting your laws changed. Its about justice for the victims period!
The justice system in the UK is geared towards protecting the defendant first before a guilty verdict.
Hearing the voices of the parents may not affect her, considering that she is a psychopath with no empathy.
I agree but the parents deserved closure, they were her victims too.
I agree, but the very fact she didn't want to hear it should have been enough to FORCE her to listen!
Good for the detective for bringing to light the life sentences the victim's loved ones go through. This week marks the 48th year of my sentence: a drunk driver killed two members of my immediate family. At the time, I was 16. What happened has hung over my entire adult life. If I could find that driver, I'd ask him, "Are you still serving your sentence? Because I am still serving mine."
How awful for you Anne, I can't imagine what you've been through. Am so sorry.
Paul Gavin. Thank you for sharing your horrific memory.
I am deeply sorry for the terrible loss of your two beloved family members Anne. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma you've suffered over the past 48 years. It is such a tragic irony that it's more than a life prison sentence. Big hugs from Australia Anne.💖🌹☮️🇦🇺
Why is it that when ordinary people get killed the bosses get their fantastic pensions and retire, Danny Cotton when Grenville happened is a prime example. Now we find the bosses at the NHS who have been complicit in the murder of babies have either retired on a pension that most of us can only dream about, or have moved to better jobs. Where is the justice for the families in this, when babies could have been saved, but the NHS have rewarded these people.
There are things in the world we just can’t understand no matter how hard we try. This is one.
Two explanations. One, evil, as explained in the Bible. Two, a sadistic, jealous killer, who may or may not be a psychopath. Sadistic is obvious, given the nature of the crimes; jealous, given that she wrote that she would never be married or have children
No,there are things in the world that YOU cannot understand. Most of the rest of us understand perfectly.
@@simonwinter8839 So how do you understand that, mr perfectman?
@@dodianzures Because you don't have the right to speak against what the majority of people believe. You call me Mr.Perfect yet you speak with the "Royal we".
@@simonwinter8839 So what is your take on that evil deed? How do you interpret that? Or are you one of those lunatic pronoun persons? lol
I hate to tell you all but as a 24yr serving Corrections Officer, prison these days is NOT the horrible place it used to be. The rights of the prisoners far exceed what we would like to see. Most of the staff they employ these days are taught that they can make a difference and change these people into law abiding citizens. Us long serving staff know better, but we are scorned by the new staff as having no empathy. She will get used to prison life and ingratiate herself with the staff. I've seen it all before.
My daughter’s friend works with young offenders who are given all the latest gadgets with no questions asked. No wonder they don’t fear the system.
So you think the younger prison staff will fall for her ingratiating ways? This is dreadful. You must be so angry with the system you work in. Thank you for your comment, it's really made me think.
@@Haberdashery22 unfortunately I do, I've seen it many times. I'd like to hope that someone will have enough sense and maturity to see how she operates and helps to keep the younger staff safe.
We had a serial killer in our Prison who was also a psychopath, he was extremely dangerous but was very manipulative. He ended up taking one of our female staff hostage. It was extremely scary. She was locked in a room with him for about 7 hours before the police threw a flash bang in through a skylight. I saw the whole thing, I never want to see that again. She never returned to work again. The younger staff don't understand how dangerous some of these men are.
I'm not sure if heard of the English back packer Grace Millane who was killed by Jesse Kempson in New Zealand. He was in our Prison and he was very manipulative too and also very dangerous, but he managed to manipulate a female staff member too. Thankfully he was moved to another prison before anything could happen.
I'm not say that Letby would be like that, but there are other ways to manipulate staff to get things they want.
Sorry for the long rant. 🙄
@@gloriahooper5023 Please don't apologise. What you have written ought to be out there for the masses to read. Is there some platform on which you can all speak out? Most of us know that prison officers have a difficult and arduous job but have no idea quite how dangerous and as you're telling me, traumatic, the job can be. Cases as you describe should be out there for public awareness/debate.
The news on TV is so diluted, it never goes into enough detail. We are sick of bits of news from the main channels that give us so little information. Where are the documentaries? The inside stories? Thank you for taking the trouble to write what you did.
This whole part of our lives (and how our prison service operates should concern every single one of us!) should be of much greater public focus. I wish you a smooth path up to your retirement. Thank you for your public service.
Jesus Christ that is terrible - my sister Karen chetcuti was brutally, raped, tortured, and murdered in country Victoria Australia in 2016 - he was sadistic, showed no remorse, he received life without parole sentence - 😞 its horrible the prisoners are treated so well grr 😡
All those involved who played a negative role in this need to face criminal trials. All pensions made null and void. And a ban from working in the health sector for the rest of their lives. Families need to take civil action against those involved. Less for the money but to make people aware of those involved. Because criminal convictions may fail.
We need the death penalty back for murder! Screw killers human rights, put victims rights FIRST!
Totally agree with you 👍. People like that should get the same fate as they gave their victims.
There's always the risk an innocent person might get executed , so no to the death penalty I'm afraid.
@@Ben-cn4hmIn such a horrific case, when there is not a thread of a doubt about the guilt of the murderer ,death penalty should be applied
no, the death penalty will just give these scum an easier way out. when they die, they’ll be at peace which won’t be serving justice at all. it’s better to let them rot away behind a cell for the rest of their lives, rather than ending their suffering
These filth don't deserve to breathe.
Monsters like this should lose their “human rights”! Their victims had theirs taken away from them!
Hand her over to the prisoners for true justice to be served.
Hand her NHS enablers over as well...
Naa I think the parent of those babies should deal with her, let her be in pain let the parents do what she done to their babies.
If Beverley Allit survived ..so will Letby....depending on placement..the lesbian mafia will protect her from the rank and file cons ..in return for sexual favours...she represents fresh meat
She us going to have a dreadful time of it with other prisoners. In the womens estate ,a baby killer is treated the same as a paedophile in the men's estate.
They are seen as the lowest of the low
@@lindamorris4542 I think the parents should be allowed to punch and kick and attack and shout at Lucy Letby.
Lucy Letby should be kept in her cell with a recording playing constantly of the victims stories. She would have to endure the heartbreaking sounds of those poor parents cries. What shes done should be imprinted in her brain.
Wouldn't work with her. For one she liked stalking the families after she killed their children because she got off on it so she would probably enjoy the recordings. Secondly, she's a psychopath which makes her incapable of guilt or regret.
Or the judge,s summing up statement played on a loop inside her cell every day of her pathetic life..she,ll have to take thos filthy murderous fingers out of her ears at some point.
She’d probably really enjoy that! She gets off on other people’s suffering.
@@disabledparentspoliticalun4830
Absolutely agree with you.
This is horrible enough (babies murdered in front of their eyes) not to also penalise hospital management. I read some of them got more than a million pounds pension of public money, that is a shame. There must be some accountability.
Remind me again, why we don’t have capital punishment in the UK?
Ruth Ellis...Should never have happened. These days she would have had mental health support!
This case should give you a clue! Because of the risk of executing an innocent person.
This woman was convicted without any proof of her guilt. The only evidence was circumstantial. In other words, she will spend her life in prison because she present when the babies died.
People are wrongly convicted all the time. Which is why they are shit-scared to bring back the death penalty. You can release someone from prison and compenstate them. You can't un-kill someone.
@@paulroberts7544 "she will spend her life in prison because she present when the babies died" That's a lie, though, isn't it?
@@user-ln4qe1sh8ishot her boyfriend dead, cant really have a lot of sympathy for a murderer
Paul Gavin. The reasons are complex, but in a nutshell the incoming lABOUR Govt in the 1960S knew that the nations problems were almost impossible to solve. The country had serious economic and trading problems and Labour knew that their policies if implemented would make the situation even worse. So they concentrated on social issues. it is so much easier to be seen as
c o m p a s s i o n a t e than to be proved competent. So they abolished capital punishment for Murder and were generally soft on crime. The people in the red wall would always vote for them in any circumstance, and they would also benefit from the y o o f
vote. Maybe a slight simplification, but a true one.
Lock her up and forget about her. If you dragged her in court, it won't change her and god forbid, she could just mock the parents and families in the dock making things worse. Forget about her. Prove her insignificance.
THE TROUBLE WITH THIS COUNTRY AND THE WEST IS THAT WE ARE TOO CIVILISED
I think you mean wimpy
Soft, liberal cowards have beed destroying the west since the sixties.
@@MK-cc5ve that too
A death sentence by electic chair lethal injection for some like her! Gonna use taxpayers money now for 24hr suicide watch what a waste
Molly coddled generation of psychopathic liberals whose feelings are more important than a life of a child
Yep very civilised lol, about as civilised as is innthe film demolition man
Those who also turned a blind eye to the warning signs made by other doctors should also face charges as many lives could have been saved
The detective talks about her taking her on life. If she is in contact with any other prisoners, there is also a risk of her being killed. Child killers do not do well in prison.
Give the management the same sentence for covering it up
She is jailed what about the people who abetted her in the woke NHS who have already found a scape goat and you can bet he or she is low down on the tree and a PM lessons will be learnt, the old chestnut meaning nothing will change
Myra Hindley had girlfriends and celebrity status in prison. She should not have any special treatment
Hindley was actually up for parole in 1990, got bounced a few times, and in 1994 then-Home Secretary Michael Howard went on a spree of lifing-off the most notorious offenders in the system. Dennis Nilsen was originally given a tariff of 25 years and could have been paroled in 2008, except Michael Howard bestowed the same fate on him as well.
Rose West also took well to prison life and was seen as basically the prison mum. She's surprisingly uncontroversial and quite well liked i.e. there isn't a queue of inmates waiting to do her in, she's also an excellent baker and won a prison bakeoff competition. Her personal risk is seemingly very low and to be honest she may well be fit for release, but no Home Secretary would ever dare.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 Hindley and West are probably both natural leaders as well as players.
My brain is to small to understand this horror. I do understand that the manager's of this hospital must be bought to account. Must be.
She deserves to be in constant pain for the rest of her life.
The parents of the infants she bumped off are.......
Prison danger will not be from self-harm but harm by other prisoners who may become vigilantes on behalf of the little ones who died.
Babies are a gift. Well said. The whole thing is heartbreaking.
God love the babies and their families. 🕯️
She stole their gift & took innocent voiceless defenceless lives, what kind of kick was she getting out of that I wonder? 🤔
A prisoner doesn't have any choice but to be in court during the case, so they shouldn't have any choice in being in court during sentencing.
video link from her cell should have been done
@@kimgrant3879 Nah ...drag her kicking and screaming into the dock for sentencing if need be.
He's right about prison officers; they have to put up with the worst of humanity every working day with risk of being beaten, stabbed or other grievous bodily harm. A lot of them are females working in male prisons as well, so hats off to them.
I don't think a criminal has ever made me so angry as this girl has made me feel today. What a coward she is.She has rubbed the parents of those precious little soul's noses in it by not going to court and hearing their impact statements. Evil,wicked woman 😢
Quite right - babies are a gift. I am pleased she won't be allowed to commit suicide and at a loss as to how the hospital management were so lax and unaware of the consequences of their ineptitude. I cannot imagine the pain of parents who lost their gifts. ❤
They were made fully aware of exactly what she was doing. Their incompetence led to more babies being murdered.
Please God don't let this be the tip of an iceberg.
How on earth can people trust the NHS.
Heart and soul breaking.
It was the whole of the nhs that killed them was it?
It the same with the Police they're losing trust just like NHS is! 🤷♂🤷♂
@@jackjones544 I thinks there is someone else still working in NHS were a part of it. In 1989 in same hospital there were a babies killer in that year. Can't be Lucy as she were just 1 at the times. And a man refused to gives a full report from the NHS to the court of that bit
@@jackjones544 I thinks they should be forced to handed over the rest of the report and evidences
The bosses at that hospital should face criminal charges also so many babies could have been saved
Peter bleksley always speaks 100% truth.
The other inmates who may have children won't take kindly to her I'm sure if there's anyone thats despised inside a prison its child killers
HOPE SHE GETS PRISON JUSTICE
Look, you lot could have lynched her ages ago. Why shrug off your responsibilities onto people who are already suffering in prison?
I suspect you are right that there are enough evil people like you in prison, so they will do your dirty work for you. But I do hope there may be enough of them with some sympathy and understanding, to help her.
But why not let her take her own life?....Why should we pay for her possibly for the next 70 years?
because then she gets the last laugh, she has controlled her fate. she should be denied that just like she denied the poor wee souls right to live. she needs to spend her days rotting.
Try put yourself in the parents shoes... You think they want her having the easy way out?
@@foreverhungry84The punishment from our Creator will start when people like her pass. What happens in this world is nothing in comparison to Divine Justice.
No,she needs to suffer as those blessed Babies and their families have suffered.
So she pays the full price for what she has done
Those managers who were allowed to retire on huge pensions need to be prosecuted too..and stripped of their pensions...
Ian Harvey been named today..
I think they will have to put her in solitary confinement!! The other inmates won’t be able to tolerate her.
There’s more than one way to skin a cat, she has to eat ...................
They should put in with the general prison population, then there will be 'justice'.
ABSOLUTELY
@@stephenminohara2519 but killing her means she won't have served any time
@@user-yp7rn6tb2t you wouldn’t want to annoy any prisoners who work in the kitchen x
Verdict and sentencing should be carried out at the same time. This would cut down on the number of criminals hiding in their cell
This detective makes sense. I agree with him.
By not going into court to hear her sentence, Lucy has sealed her guilt
Is this the kind of society we want , creating monsters like this ?
Allowing it is wanting it.
I think it's a little unfair to claim that society itself created this awful scenario. After all, there aren't millions of Letby's out there, thank God. Thankfully, most people are decent and honest, with at least some compassion when necessary.
Even after Letby was convicted of murdering seven babies, everyone still talks about her rights or what you can or cannot do with her. Bullsh*t. Once she murdered one baby, she lost all rights...period!!!! Anything you do to her is not enough.
The consultants that were forced to apologise should publicly name the individuals who personally or in written form made them apologise.
Victims have human rights, she no has any. They are forfeited!
His comment about human rights lawyers is spot on.
Although no words could ever give the parents of those poor newborns comfort, I also have a great deal of sympathy for Letby’s parents. Only they know what must be going through their minds right now , I’m sure they’ll be blaming themselves for every one of those children’s lives their daughter took away .
I hadn’t realised they don’t have to appear! That’s terrible
Evil killers/ criminals receive more support than the victims
Everything is tilted towards criminals these days
Why are the bosses not answerable ....why do prime minsters keep quiet n ignore My best friend was left paralysed for life during childbirth. when the matter was brought to PM David Cameron. The Nhs bosses replied.we dont know who was working on the shift that day. Everyone deserted her. PRIME MINISTER kept silent too.
As far as people like her not being dragged into a court room because of the spectacle it would create. I am sure that many people would like to have seen her being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the court room to face her crimes.
@@user-yp7rn6tb2t Well if you do not know I cannot explain it to you.
Do away with human right's full stop for this type of criminal, after all we all know they only ever apply and benefit them and not the rest of us. Any human rights lawyer protesting this should automatically be kept away from any trial of this nature.
@@user-yp7rn6tb2t No, drawn and quartered first
The NHS needs complete reorganisation.... it's now full of management not medics..but, these management teams need to face accountability for their actions.
It is quite some time ago now, but I once read an article about the NHS having around 180'000 beds being available in the whole UK system, and 232'000 managers. Something *very* wrong there..... At the time of their collapse, the Rover car manufacturing group, had an HR department with around 700 staff members in it. And look what happened to all that..... Around 10 years ago, my local NHS hospital were advertising for a Grounds Manager, to oversee/manage the grounds, grass cutting, weeding, litter picking etc. Not too long after that, I learned that the Grounds Manager had appointed both a Deputy and a secretary/assistant, with 2 further staff employed to actually carry out the exterior tasks.... Bloody ridiculous.
The death penalty should still be available for such heinous crimes.
The only problem with the death penalty is, it is too quick and doesn't extend their suffering to spend years reflecting on their crimes as she will exist in solitary confinment with little human contact. Lets face it, we all die one day so she will suffer no more than the rest of us . The differnce for Lucy Letby would be that she would experience death somewhat earlier than the rest of us might expect in our own lives., I've never thought that death is something to fear as it happens to every one of us. The death penalty would give her a means of escape from an otherwise meaningless life.
@@hazzard8760 yes ive thought of that too. But surely a face to face with their maker to explain their actions would be much more terrifying than lingering here for 30-40 years and all the expense it requires. Trust me i worked in a prison, she will have a cushy life other than the loss of her liberty.
@@garyhendrie4001I prefer forced slavery, we might as well extract economic value from them
@@allamasadi7970 a good idea, but what do you do when they refuse to work.
The death sentence would make us as bad as these murderers are. Going back to capital punishment would only be a step backwards.
Put the cowards in handcuffs and lock the handcuffs to a bar installed in a glass, soundproof cubicle in the court which has speakers installed through which the impact statements and sentence are played. This forces the criminal to attend and hear, but prevents them from causing a ruckus to interrupt the proceedings.
I wish you’d stop using her nursing pictures, it feels offensive seeing her in uniform holding babies.
She actually was a good nurse.
@@anncleveland-dunn5944 A good nurse?? Well I suppose she was actually very good at getting away with murder...That evil cow murdered seven vulnerable babies and attempted to kill another six before the police arrested her. There's always one joker in the RUclips pack!
I couldn't agree with you more.! This vile creature's mug shot is far more appropriate. I'm sure the families of the innocent babies she murdered also agree.
We cannot force accused to stop being cowards. We must retain the dignity of courts. If she wants to commit suicide we should allow her to, let her go. Keeping her isn't going to change what she's done. The NHS has a HUGE amount to answer for. The parents of the deceased babies who were murdered after the doctors raised the alarm have my complete sympathy and compassion.
Why should the 🇬🇧taxpayer pay for her receiving 3 meals a day a warm room and clean bed, we should bring back the death penalty for murder. Our judicial system needs shake up, why should she be allowed to refuse to attend the sentencing? She should have been dragged into court and face the consequences of her actions.
Because we follow Christ...in this country...
@@bettyboossister3918 Unfortunately, Letby did not.....
This must be the only country in the world that allows criminals not to bother turn up to sentencing. It works in all the other countries. 🤷♂
Good to see a proper old school Bobby, the sort who used to say ‘Oh dear, you appear to have violently hit my boot wiv your ‘ead’ and ‘ He fell down some stairs sarge ‘
Here is a sensible man talking. To those clamouring for capital punishment, think on his words. Full life term…in her case probably 50 years,is a far more terrible punishment than a lethal injection next Tuesday. You all see that, right? She is descending into a nightmare from which she will never wake up.
If she took her own life then it would save the taxpayer money! Bring back capital punishment I say!
he's suggesting people work hard to keep her alive, when taxes need to go on saving people in hospital. If she loves killing so much, why not finish the job? I mean she's that far in at this point I'm not sure what difference it makes.
@@amytiffanyhemingway Nope, no way. Those families have to live in a hell for the rest of their lives and so should she. This is past the point of rehabilitation, it is about the punishment.
@@kinziek3190 fair point
I seriously do think its time to re visit the death sentence question, if you ignore (yes i know its hard ) the attempted murders.
The piece of dirt is convicted of murdering seven babies, that gives her NO RIGHT TO LIVE ANY SORT OF LIFE !!
I don’t … don’t stoop to their level. Just bring back labour within prisons make them work
My friend she killed several new born kids really, im shocked at your reply, are you religious ?@@Ayat78
@@geordiejones2 It’s the easy way out. Trust me it’s not a good idea. I do think prison for these crimes shouldn’t be about rehabilitation if someone is guilty and has had 14 life sentences … bring back hard labour in these prisons.
Here in New Zealand many years ago, a person committed a dreadful crime against a very young girl and imprisoned. He was eventually allowed to work in the prison kitchen and one day, there he was on the prison kitchen floor with his throat cut and NOBODY saw a thing!!! Justice achieved!
What a stupid thing to say
Guilty was the verdict, and she will spend the rest of her life behind bars. However there were more victims than the poor babies and their parents, her own close and extended family!
How her own parents are feeling I cannot imagine. They will also spend a life sentence of their own anguishing over what, it anything, they did wrong to bring these circumstances about. They will also never recover, and their neighbors will forever point the finger.
It’s a waste of time trying to “reach” a psychopath, they will not hear their victims or contemplate their own wrongdoing, everything is through the lens of self.
The managers should be going to jail with her. They were protecting themselves by not stopping her earlier, all the facts and signs were there.
All people are GIFTS....LIFE is PRECIOUS...
I am a nurse too. Letby is such a disgrace to this profession!
Always find it interesting that prisoners have their own code of honour. Anyone found to be a child abuser/ r@pist / murder is seen as the lowest of the low in the eyes of the other prisoners. They will likely make her life a living hell during her time in prison.
I've worked in a prison----- they wont get anywhere near her
Unfortunately it will be years and years before she mixes with the general population of the prison..... and the cost to j
Keep her alive will cost the tax payers millions.
she will be segregated.
stealing from tesco to feed your children v babie killers or any other crime against children who side would you be on that's a easy one