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This bomb was meant to slap ships not from orbit like you are in testing but from lower altitudes over long slant ranges - that's why it has a 25km range real world, ostensibly against a ship sized target - you're not lasing a Mini Cooper at that distance. The INS Sahand was smacked with 4 of these launched by an A-6E the week I was born in 1988, in addition to 3 other Harpoons that hit. One can fire the skipper from outside of defensive range and then turn 90 degrees and keep the target lased in the TRAM turret without closing any more distance. Today such tactics are less useful as ranges of most naval SAMs have improved.
It is also a weapon that is used against a vertical target like a cave mouth or a particular floor in a building. The GBU-10, GBU-10I, GBU-12, GBU-16, and the GBU--27 all had a specific ballistics profile for either a horizontal or a vertical enveloped target. Usually that meant the laser guidance illumination occurred earlier in the delivery profile resulting in a flatter ballistics curve.
@@michaelspivey4574 TIL! Interesting - the slightly older GBU-15 slots in below the Skipper in range but then the AGM-130 shoots past it like a super skipper. All of these weapons are largely forgotten so it's nice to see the snail slide us some obscure toys.
Pretty sure what’s going on here is that the missile is still a paveway GBU, so the guidance system on the bomb isn’t acquiring the laser until it’s within a certain distance (I think the distance is like 2, 3 kilometers on the smaller paveways?) so you can’t rely on the bomb to guide itself completely to the target like other AGMs. It’s more of a tool to get the bomb guidance into range without having to float above
The missile doesn't know what is at any time, it doesn't know what it is because it doesn't know what it was. By subtracting the missile from the bomb, or the bomb from the missile (whichever is greater), it obtains an identity crisis. The missile uses the identity crisis to generate funny memes and deadly explosions.
The sea skipper is a laser guided weapon. In order for sea skipper (or a laser guided smart bomb for that matter) to hit a target that target must be constantly illuminated by the laser in either the dropping aircraft, a buddy aircraft, or an covert observer on the ground with a hand held laser targeting device transmitting the code loaded into the guidance unit on the bomb. The code was loaded into the guidance unit by the weapons personnel that loaded the store onto the aircraft. I was a weapon and avionics engineer on the F117 and the sea skipper was considered as a store for the F117. The only reason it was not a weapon on the F117 is that was 4 inches too long and making a special version for the F117 was not an option.
I worked on the A-6E Intruder in the early 90s. There was a report that came out the British tornado was top bomber and Intruder was second place. The ceiling minimum was 20,000 feet.
The problem with this new weapon is its trail. The A6E is such a deadly attacker in GRB because of its stealth at high altitudes. The trail of the PGM123 would make it much easier to spot.
@@GravityTrash.Yes, how ever the tunguska has a 70-80 degrees of elevation on the radar, that means that if you are above it and high enough, they will have no idea you are there, until a bomb drops
But with a rocket as well, is it still a guided bomb, or is it a missile? Maybe a rocket assisted bomb differs in that it's trajectory is always falling where as a missile has enough power for level flight?
Hi Phly! I live right near Cherry Point, and I can list all the aircraft on display in and around the base. -In New Bern, the largest town near base, there's an F-11F painted in Blue Angels livery on display next to highway 70. There's also a harrier in front of the regional airport. -In Havelock, the town adjacent to base, there's the A-6E you mentioned behind the hotel, which is also alongside an F-4 and an A-4. -On the south entrance of base is another harrier on display. Once on base itself. There's a large line of display aircraft which includes yet another harrier, an EA-6B, and a CH-46.
I first got into war thunder in 2020 because of your videos, but a while ago i stopped playing. At about that time is when you stopped making videos, but now that you are back i have started to get back into the game, and im having just as much fun as i did before. So basically you are the reason that i play war thunder, and your videos are just as good as before (even though the views dont show it). Great to see you back Phly!
i think the issue with these rockets is, at top tier you pretty much have to play jets up in space or SAMs slap you out of the air. so having to nose down at your target to fire these means you are losing altitude, so you are closer to the SAMs and you are also flying right at them which makes you an easy target to kill. the missiles getting to target faster is kinda helpful but i think the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. at least for war thunder.
Cherry Point is about a 6 hours drive from where I live, I've been there many times. I used to spend a lot of time in Atlantic Beach when I was in my teens/early 20's. Still go there from time to time.
It looks like the skippers are more useful for launching forward as you fly low (but not lobbing so high that the seeker loses the target). Also less time you have to spend in line of sight.
Fun fact (and I have been seeing this alot lately ) you can use the guided bombs on the su-25sm3 (and maybe other variations) to lock on to a enemy aircraft and kill them with more accuracy than a missile cause there isn't annything to disturb / disrupt the guidance system....
I mean best way you can describe this gun is...i will bring up as an example the German V1 Flying rocket bomb but this one , it has got the ability to lock on a specific target or spot
Genuinely from what I recall, there was a bomb used by one of the powers in world war 2 that was specifically meant to be dropped above and in-front-of a slow flying bomber formation, and then disperse a hyperbolic metric ton of incendiary ordnance which would fall down onto and pepper the bombers, causing them to burn and crash. I cant remember for the life of me which country tried to use it, but I swear it exists
@PhlyDaily Cherry Point is a Marine base. lived there for several years. Fun fact its one of the few runways long enough for the space shuttle to land on in an emergency. I can still remember watching the blue angels fly in for the air show from the cafeteria in 5th/6th grade
If it had a ballistics computer it would be a lot more useful. You could potentially sling it off from really far range and guide it in once it got close to target while being outside SPAA range
Yeah Phly Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point is a USMC air base, they have a pretty sweet air show. I’ve flown out of there a few times when i was stationed with an Artillery Unit at nearby Camp Lejeune.
The skippers might be more useful against moving targets. Or maybe give you more of a chance when there's clouds on the map. I've spawned plenty of times in the A-6 and found that I can't even freaking use it because the map has too many clouds for me to see or keep lock on targets at high alt. So you can launch these from further away maybe?
If you turn into the Hampton Inn in cherry point with the A6E out front, there is a visitor center behind it with an F4 phantom, A4 skyhawk, and a CH46 :D
havent watched the whole vid, but id imagine if you went very high altitude and did straight vertical drops with the bomb aimed at the target directly it would reach the ground much faster and track much better then a GBU
I know Air RB isn't common on this channel but the British Gloster Javelin fills like a underrated air craft even with the capability to bring 6 AA missiles and have an afterburner in 8.0. Ps projectile poo could be classed as a bio weapon.
Derelict, Delapitated, Decrepit. Also NC getting a F-11 and harrier lucky. My home town has a F-4, A-4 skyhawk, and some soviet trainer i cant remember the name of outside.
6:35 : blinky = no-launchy. It has to be within the square (I have no idea how one calls that but it's like a target launch window... Particularly annoying in revenge drones XD ) and within the range bracket.
There are air to air bombs. Japan made them. It was called the Type 3 No. 6 Mk 27 Model 1. I also had an E6b fly 30 feet above my truck while landing. I was blasting Dangerzone at the time.
When you’re flying high and flat, the laser seeker on the bomb head, cannot see the laser on the ground. That’s why you’re not getting a range indicating for launch
Seems like that skipper has a motor on it from a remote control car cause that thing doesn't move any faster or better than that paveway. Still like the Su25's missiles/bombs lazer guided cause them things you can take out enemy planes with the Kh-38MT
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"There's no such thing as an air to sit bomb" I present the AIM-26 Falcon, nuclear air to air bomb. Or the AIR-2 Genie which was an unguided 1.25 Kiloton Wahead.
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Poor Phly :´(
“There’s no air to air bomb”
The F15E that killed a helicopter with a laser guided bomb wants a word
was about to say XD
Also there were Soviet defensive AA bombs mounted on their WW2 attack aircraft I beleuve
There where also German ones in ww2, and also in Cold War there was some nuklear aa bombs.
Do it phly! I concur! 😅 be that guy!
I mean arguably that one airburst nuke idea for taking down planes could almost be classified as a ‘bomb’ 😂
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lol was about to say the same thing
now his warthunder gameplay looks more familiar
This is turning into a channel meme 😁
"If you take your poop out of the toilet and throw at your enemies. You're not throwing poop. You're throwing a missile."
PhlyDaily, 2024
I'd have to wonder if you throw it at your neighbour and he's not in the military is it a war crime?
@@nosedive1236 civilians don't need to comply with the Geneva checklist, even better you could say its a "missle with a biological warfare warhead"
The real question is what is it called when you put your poop in bags, attach them to balloons and let them fly over to your enemy.
i think we're underestimating the threat that mokeys pose to us.
@@T.efpunkt We call that a North Korean war crime.
This bomb was meant to slap ships not from orbit like you are in testing but from lower altitudes over long slant ranges - that's why it has a 25km range real world, ostensibly against a ship sized target - you're not lasing a Mini Cooper at that distance. The INS Sahand was smacked with 4 of these launched by an A-6E the week I was born in 1988, in addition to 3 other Harpoons that hit.
One can fire the skipper from outside of defensive range and then turn 90 degrees and keep the target lased in the TRAM turret without closing any more distance. Today such tactics are less useful as ranges of most naval SAMs have improved.
Yeah i was gonna say it’s an anti ship “bomb” so I’d reckon you’d be low down when using it
so, this is something like stand-off cruise missile, but 40 years old
You should be careful posting any identifying information publicly, particularly around your birth date.
It is also a weapon that is used against a vertical target like a cave mouth or a particular floor in a building. The GBU-10, GBU-10I, GBU-12, GBU-16, and the GBU--27 all had a specific ballistics profile for either a horizontal or a vertical enveloped target. Usually that meant the laser guidance illumination occurred earlier in the delivery profile resulting in a flatter ballistics curve.
@@michaelspivey4574 TIL! Interesting - the slightly older GBU-15 slots in below the Skipper in range but then the AGM-130 shoots past it like a super skipper. All of these weapons are largely forgotten so it's nice to see the snail slide us some obscure toys.
“Derelict”??
no, he clearly said "delerik"
@@tripy75 garlic?
Beherit ?
peherit ?
@@Gurkani-xv7knPeanut butter
Catapult=missile launcher
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Technically yes
In the state of Colorado it’s illegal to throw a missile by hand. I’m not even kidding.
Pretty sure what’s going on here is that the missile is still a paveway GBU, so the guidance system on the bomb isn’t acquiring the laser until it’s within a certain distance (I think the distance is like 2, 3 kilometers on the smaller paveways?) so you can’t rely on the bomb to guide itself completely to the target like other AGMs. It’s more of a tool to get the bomb guidance into range without having to float above
its because the bomb has to be dropped directly facing the target or in close proximity, then it will track from farther ranges
The missile doesn't know what is at any time, it doesn't know what it is because it doesn't know what it was. By subtracting the missile from the bomb, or the bomb from the missile (whichever is greater), it obtains an identity crisis. The missile uses the identity crisis to generate funny memes and deadly explosions.
I read that in the damn missile voice.
@@f82usa61 Perfect.
The sea skipper is a laser guided weapon. In order for sea skipper (or a laser guided smart bomb for that matter) to hit a target that target must be constantly illuminated by the laser in either the dropping aircraft, a buddy aircraft, or an covert observer on the ground with a hand held laser targeting device transmitting the code loaded into the guidance unit on the bomb. The code was loaded into the guidance unit by the weapons personnel that loaded the store onto the aircraft. I was a weapon and avionics engineer on the F117 and the sea skipper was considered as a store for the F117. The only reason it was not a weapon on the F117 is that was 4 inches too long and making a special version for the F117 was not an option.
I worked on the A-6E Intruder in the early 90s. There was a report that came out the British tornado was top bomber and Intruder was second place. The ceiling minimum was 20,000 feet.
Makes sense since the Tornado is both newer and more capable
It doesn't. Two different aircraft with two different design doctrines.@@christopherchartier3017
That moment when Phly accidentally uses the 123 as intended right at the end of the video without realizing it 😂
The problem with this new weapon is its trail. The A6E is such a deadly attacker in GRB because of its stealth at high altitudes. The trail of the PGM123 would make it much easier to spot.
Don't they already make trails flying up that high anyway
@@GravityTrash.Only if plane goes above 5k altitude
@@alphawolf1786 But wont you be in Tunguska range then ?
@@GravityTrash.Yes, how ever the tunguska has a 70-80 degrees of elevation on the radar, that means that if you are above it and high enough, they will have no idea you are there, until a bomb drops
@@armandoestrella3097 Ah okay thank you 😁
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That is basically cheating
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Guided bomb - gravity propels the bomb but computer system steers it toward to target like a glider
But it isn't propled by gravity?
@@zack65769 it is tho, at least on the orig versions
@@zack65769 Being pedantic, gravity is an attractive force, so it can't propel anything.
But with a rocket as well, is it still a guided bomb, or is it a missile? Maybe a rocket assisted bomb differs in that it's trajectory is always falling where as a missile has enough power for level flight?
@@MrEsphoenix a guided munition with it's own propulsion system, I'd call it a missile.
Hi Phly! I live right near Cherry Point, and I can list all the aircraft on display in and around the base.
-In New Bern, the largest town near base, there's an F-11F painted in Blue Angels livery on display next to highway 70. There's also a harrier in front of the regional airport.
-In Havelock, the town adjacent to base, there's the A-6E you mentioned behind the hotel, which is also alongside an F-4 and an A-4.
-On the south entrance of base is another harrier on display. Once on base itself. There's a large line of display aircraft which includes yet another harrier, an EA-6B, and a CH-46.
I first got into war thunder in 2020 because of your videos, but a while ago i stopped playing. At about that time is when you stopped making videos, but now that you are back i have started to get back into the game, and im having just as much fun as i did before. So basically you are the reason that i play war thunder, and your videos are just as good as before (even though the views dont show it). Great to see you back Phly!
i think the issue with these rockets is, at top tier you pretty much have to play jets up in space or SAMs slap you out of the air. so having to nose down at your target to fire these means you are losing altitude, so you are closer to the SAMs and you are also flying right at them which makes you an easy target to kill. the missiles getting to target faster is kinda helpful but i think the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. at least for war thunder.
I love how often you upload now! Keep it up💯🔥
Thanks to phly, I truly understand what makes a missile a missile. Thank you!
Cherry Point is about a 6 hours drive from where I live, I've been there many times. I used to spend a lot of time in Atlantic Beach when I was in my teens/early 20's. Still go there from time to time.
The skipper is built for long lateral launches at lower altitudes
AGM-123 Skipper are ASM but could be used on AAA and SAM sites but mostly used in the Anti-ship role, and low flying missile.
As a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, so must you become Derelicte!
It looks like the skippers are more useful for launching forward as you fly low (but not lobbing so high that the seeker loses the target). Also less time you have to spend in line of sight.
They look like they're made for you to do low-level infiltration and then pop up at the last second to lob the skippers at the target.
Good news! You get to wait until after the update to play the t55e1. Losing wheels will add a significant entertainment factor I can feel it.
Fun fact (and I have been seeing this alot lately ) you can use the guided bombs on the su-25sm3 (and maybe other variations) to lock on to a enemy aircraft and kill them with more accuracy than a missile cause there isn't annything to disturb / disrupt the guidance system....
"Dicksinbut" Phly thought he was gonna be slick. But I saw it. You're not getting away this Phly!
Camp blanding, near Jacksonville, Florida a decent museum was a WW2 P.O.W CAMP and also got a good lake on post. Recommend highly
Dude I stayed at that hotel back in 2018, was nice being able to walk around those aircraft.
I love to see you are back
The King is Back 😂❤
I mean best way you can describe this gun is...i will bring up as an example the German V1 Flying rocket bomb but this one , it has got the ability to lock on a specific target or spot
Genuinely from what I recall, there was a bomb used by one of the powers in world war 2 that was specifically meant to be dropped above and in-front-of a slow flying bomber formation, and then disperse a hyperbolic metric ton of incendiary ordnance which would fall down onto and pepper the bombers, causing them to burn and crash. I cant remember for the life of me which country tried to use it, but I swear it exists
germany experimented with normal bombs with time delay
Tbh phly I don’t finish every video but I certainly do like as many as I can because I love you
this video made me remember that after about a year and 6 months of having my PC done, I also haven't activated windows lmfao
I don’t think this has the potential of those French missile bomb things, but these were for low altitude high speed anti-ship work.
@PhlyDaily Cherry Point is a Marine base. lived there for several years. Fun fact its one of the few runways long enough for the space shuttle to land on in an emergency. I can still remember watching the blue angels fly in for the air show from the cafeteria in 5th/6th grade
If it had a ballistics computer it would be a lot more useful. You could potentially sling it off from really far range and guide it in once it got close to target while being outside SPAA range
As a AO watching gameplay about ordnance I see at work scratches that part of my brain
Yeah Phly Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point is a USMC air base, they have a pretty sweet air show. I’ve flown out of there a few times when i was stationed with an Artillery Unit at nearby Camp Lejeune.
Felt my IQ drop quite a bit in the first 3 1/2 minutes of this vid. Love you Phly, glad you're back, day 2 of asking you to activate windows.
proud of you phly
The poop joke ...😂😂😂 damn it...😂😂😂
My man get in contact with me and i will buy you a windows activation key lmao, love your content bro glad you're back!
The skippers might be more useful against moving targets. Or maybe give you more of a chance when there's clouds on the map. I've spawned plenty of times in the A-6 and found that I can't even freaking use it because the map has too many clouds for me to see or keep lock on targets at high alt. So you can launch these from further away maybe?
If you turn into the Hampton Inn in cherry point with the A6E out front, there is a visitor center behind it with an F4 phantom, A4 skyhawk, and a CH46 :D
You should try out the squadron a4. Its guided bombs will float across the sky. It's like they forgot about drag.
"We're asking the real questions here today."
Fucking dying bro xD
2:36 And there's the Hickory Aviation Museum, which has some cool aircraft including an AH-1W and an F-14, not too far from Charlotte 😄
I missed you phly I hope returning to the game has made you happy because we are happy you are back
Phlyhourly...and I funking love it!
They have two at the entrance of the air base in Oak Harbor WA. So cool
Ahhhh that poop definition is why we come here Daily, we PhlyDaily over here if u will HA!
I'll see myself out.
The fact that phly search up a missle and it said shopping is so funny😂
Ima now do my own thing
You know what’s fantastic. We’re all drone operators that can control munitions. I love war thunder.
Only Phly can upload a 20 minute video in a test drive featuring a bomb and get 100k views
2:05 "Skipper" "Launch range: 20.00 km" Proceeds to launch from altitude at point blank range for 16 minutes.
Google approved poop missiles😂😂 what a start to a video
The Main question is can you lase Helicopters with it 😅
Phly "There's no such thing as an air to air bomb"
F15...... ...."wanna bet?"
Germany: Amateur
There was a Japanese air to air bomb, it was a shrapnel bomb with a time fuze to break up bomber formations
Oh yes phly love you videos 😂
I love to see phly rocking the free version of windows
havent watched the whole vid, but id imagine if you went very high altitude and did straight vertical drops with the bomb aimed at the target directly it would reach the ground much faster and track much better then a GBU
I definitely have been to that hotel and walked across and got pictures of those machinery
It's a missile.
Rocket motor: Check.
In-flight guidance system: Check.
Missile.
There is an A6 outside Naval Air Station Whidbey Island as well in Washington State
"Activate Windows" lmao
Can we take a moment to appreciate the thumbnail really quick? It is actually sick
hey Phly! would love to see you try out the AMX M4! it's a highly underrated French monster
Phly, the Skipper is an Anti-Ship missile. Look up its use against the Iranian Navy and Iraqi Navy in 1988 and Desert Storm respectively.
As mentioned, F15E took out a help with a laser guided bomb before. So yes, bombs are air to air.
Also a 10/10 ground rb video idea.
Bomssile
Bomb, missile
A BISSLE
@@vokun5881 Perhaps even a Momb, if you will xD
I know Air RB isn't common on this channel but the British Gloster Javelin fills like a underrated air craft even with the capability to bring 6 AA missiles and have an afterburner in 8.0. Ps projectile poo could be classed as a bio weapon.
Derelict, Delapitated, Decrepit.
Also NC getting a F-11 and harrier lucky. My home town has a F-4, A-4 skyhawk, and some soviet trainer i cant remember the name of outside.
Yo I’ve been to that A-6!!! It’s next to a Mexican restaurant in front of the hotel! That’s sick you called that out haha
why is the first thing I hear when I turn my headset on is, " Poop being considered a lethal weapon". Part of me is not surprised just disappointed.
I love this so much🤣
6:35 : blinky = no-launchy.
It has to be within the square (I have no idea how one calls that but it's like a target launch window... Particularly annoying in revenge drones XD ) and within the range bracket.
There are air to air bombs. Japan made them. It was called the Type 3 No. 6 Mk 27 Model 1. I also had an E6b fly 30 feet above my truck while landing. I was blasting Dangerzone at the time.
When you’re flying high and flat, the laser seeker on the bomb head, cannot see the laser on the ground. That’s why you’re not getting a range indicating for launch
Seems like that skipper has a motor on it from a remote control car cause that thing doesn't move any faster or better than that paveway. Still like the Su25's missiles/bombs lazer guided cause them things you can take out enemy planes with the Kh-38MT
Dude, where you at MCAS Cherry Point for the airshow? I was! Just a random thought lol.
Bro still hasn't activated Windows 🤣💀
"There's no air to air bomb"
That one f15 kill on a mi24 hind says otherwise
Not the Bissile lmao
Yuh yuh yuh yuh yuh its da Flay daylay!
The Navy calls the AGM-123 Skipper a rocket assisted bomb, but it is still classified as a missile because it has thrust.
Love this guy 😊
Erm Phhly the Tornado GR.1 has the same thing except the PGM.2000s' have over half a tonne of TnT
I've seen a Tornado pilot dropping pave way bombs on pve bomber waves ... very effective!
Didn't they add a mode that lets you quickly practice and try out new missile systems? Pretty sure that's how i learned to use manually guided ATGMs
you can force activate windows easily for free its kinda sketchy but its only like 4 lines of code in the CMD and it force verifies some random windows 11 code you give it as valid
I don't even care about gameplay i just wanna watch phly happy.
"There's no such thing as an air to sit bomb"
I present the AIM-26 Falcon, nuclear air to air bomb. Or the AIR-2 Genie which was an unguided 1.25 Kiloton Wahead.
The aircraft next to the hotel is also next to the visitor center. I think it's supposed to be a marker for it but it's a bad one
More Centurion, please! How about a big ol' Cent round-up? MK3, FV4202, Action X?