Obsessive Man Who Stalked His Ex-Girlfriend and Killed Her New Lover - Zachariah Anderson Case
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2023
- Wisconsin man Zachariah Anderson was accused of stalking his ex-girlfriend and her new lover, Rosalio Gutierrez Jr., before killing him and hiding his body. Prosecutors called him an obsessive ex-boyfriend, alleging he couldn't stand seeing his former partner with another man. The Law&Crime Network's Jesse Weber breaks down what led to the jury convicting Zachariah Anderson of murder, stalking, and hiding a corpse.
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For the family not to be able to lay their loved one to rest is beyond comprehension, I feel for them. 💔
@ALakes that still doesn't give anyone the right to take someone else's life. You sound ignorant asf
Agreed. He should man up and disclose what he did with his body. The victim's family deserves some closure.
@@CarrieAKouri but he is innocent
@@valorgaming7114 clearly not
It would be pointless for asking for parole at any time in the future while he refuses to disclose where the body is. In the UK there is a pressure group that wants killers to remain in prison while the body is still hidden even if they have served their full sentence.
It's SO CREEPY watching him flirt w his female defense attorney and seeing her look so flattered by it! If she's that easily manipulated, she should NOT be a defense attorney! She seems like the type of woman who'd help convicts escape prison bc he promised to "run away" with her!
Isn't it? Like watching a snake hypnotise a mouse or rat.
@@FernVert 100%! The first time I saw it was on Dr. G's body language analysis... Watching it in slow motion is HELLA CREEPY!!!
Wow I noticed that too..I thought I was just being naughty myself 😅
Not really. Ol’ greasy letecia stauch was giggling and flirting with her attorney, constantly, during a freaking child murder trial! I think some of these defense attorneys know exactly who they are tasked with representing and their actions come off as weird when it may just be a way for them to get through awful cases they know they can’t win, won’t win, but still need to come across as confident…
Same type of women that gets back with her abusive husband. Same type of women that is attracted by serial killers/stalkers/creeps etc. 🤮
You only know someone after you are separated from them. Not when you're sleeping with them.
Hard facts.
So very true.
My mother always told me someone shows you and tells you who they are from the very beginning if you’re watching and listening.
That facts
I had an ex husband like this,, I dated after years of divorce and was always tormented, threatened, even went to the guys house after church and threatened him. Nobody ever did anything. He told me he’d make sure I died an alone old woman. I stopped dating in 2011, he died in 2016 of a drug overdose, and I’m still alone and still stay scared. I can’t even sleep. I have to cover a few windows with blankets because he would call and tell me what I and our kids were doing that night and laughing about looking through the windows. Had several people tell me for years he was going to “do something “ to me…. It was a constant thought, I guess that’s what he wanted. He was always with other women, and he “their” house to constantly torment me. I’m shaking writing this
Oh my God don't let him win! Take your power back!!!! Some fear is good and can keep us safe, but living in constant debilitating fear is not good for your soul. Get a gun & learn how to use it....... take other steps to empower yourself.
@@astrialindah2773 thank you, but I stated he died of a drug overdose. Even had two children and each time I came home from the hospital with our child a woman he’d be seeing that I knew nothing about, would call and tell me… it was a constant thing. When I finally got away and it took three years for him to sign divorce papers. Always has restraining orders, never worked, he would come to my house and do things, he knew by the time the cops came he would be gone. Finally a judge wrote on the order to go pick him up because he was never here, but they still never did
Very sorry you had to deal with this torment. Don't let him control you for the rest of your life. He is gone now... never to darken your doorstep again. There will be no more girlfriends calling you. Life is short. It goes by so quickly. Do you want to look back and regret that you didn't enjoy your life. I never answer my phone. If people don't leave a message that's on them. Best wishes.
@@blueeyes4037 I know hun, and I'm sorry that you went through that.... But you stated that you still have fear and I'm just trying to get you to realize you need to release that fear..... In order to have a beautiful life. To stay in fear because of him basically lets him win. It's literally giving your power away. Be strong and I pray you are blessed from here forward! ❣️
@@blueeyes4037 You are now FREE. Some of us still have our abuser walking this earth... and still in fear. Yours is dead. Don't let him rob your life from the grave. He is gone forever. Live your life. His Karna came. Life is so short. Please start living again.
18:32 DUDE DOESN'T BLINK 😂 I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A PICTURE TIL I REALIZED HIS LAWYERS MOVIN BESIDE HIM 🤦🏼♀️😂🤷🏼♀️😆
Good old Walmart. They help catch a lot of criminals.
I don't wait overnight to get ahold of a family member. If I don't hear from them after trying to call and talk for a couple hours I'm out looking for them and making calls. I was a Firefighter/EMT for years so I'm always concerned about their well being. I don't think I'm alone in my thinking.
No you're not a lone. I'm the very same way.
Yea, I have some single older friends that we all call each other at least before bed so we know we are all safe and everything is ok. Yea, our kids check on us, but we are all old n disabled w pets, so we always check in. Actually just got my good nite call from one of them lol
Thank God it’s not just me. I have two grown sons, my eldest, I was calling for hours, and he’s normally really receptive. In the end, my husband went round to his house. He was working and his phone was on silent. The terrible thoughts that went through my head, I can’t begin to tell you. I take nothing for granted when it comes to my family. 🌹
@@lisabishop6266That’s absolutely wonderful. My parents have a social group like that. They all worry about each other. It’s so heartwarming. 🌹
@@angeladavis9254 *alone
18:28 That stare is so creepy.
Unfortunately, evil people like this will never admit they did it & wont tell the family where his body is so they can never get peace.
Honestly, I thought for a moment my screen was frozen. 😳🙈
@@mellec917 I did too! The way he was staring at his daughter without moving was creepy! I wonder if his kids will have any contact with him after this?
I’d tell him if he told where the body was I’d keep in contact. If not he’d never hear from me again.
I thought the same thing too! He looks frozen in shock listening to his own daughter calling him out on what he was doing!
@@shayshaymann113 I don't think it was shock.. it was more like pure evil staring at his own daughter in a threatening way to scare her into not talking. He's disgusting and guilty. 😠
IMO!
I just watched the verdict but had no idea about the case. Great summary.
Glad this family got some Justice.
A moment of madness causes a lifetime of pain
He was nuts for more than any moment.
What’s up with all the crime in Wisconsin?
The way he sits there with a straight face like he’s innocent and not a cold blooded killer. I wish these types of people would just plea guilty from day 1. Also hard to fathom how that little weasel managed to overpower the victim and succeed in killing him.
They get them from behind... he may have asked to come in and speak to the guy and caught him off guard. Or got him as he unlocked his door. We will never know.
He was not violent. Some big men are peaceful.
They said he was bigger before this muscular
@@jaybrybry yeah he looks big in that walmart video.
The most chilling and hard to wrap your head around aspect of this case is his closing statement following his conviction. He sits there calm as can be like hes reading facts out of a textbook and claims he didnt do it, the guy is truly a psychopath with no remorse. He truly does not care that someone is no longer with us bc of his actions and it really doesnt bother him at all.
His closing statement on a different site is the reason I’m here. I don’t know much at all about this case. You are right, if he did it, he is a complete psychopath… But what if he didn’t?
@@losanto2295the victim's blood was found in this dude's work van. how do you explain that?
@@losanto2295 The basic crux of it is he stalked his ex wife to the point even his own daughter testified against him bc she knew it was wrong. I just dont see how it just so happens his phone was turned off at the time of the crime and he has no allabi accounting for him. So either he was set up by a complete mad genius out of a stephen king book or he did it
@@scorpion-lg4ic Exactly, with bleach stains covering his whole back area of the floor. Something that wasnt there days ago by his own daughters testimony. Shes 12, kids who are 12 are smart enough to have a basic understanding of the truth and whats right or wrong and she understands her dad could go to jail for her testimony claiming that and still did it bc she knows it was wrong.
@@Mclovinit8171 after posting my comment, I watched a whole lot more stuff on this case and yes… It’s pretty irrefutable but your last sentence is cause for reasonable doubt. I’m not arguing, one way or another… I’m just saying “what if“.
Can we give a round of applause to WalMart and their camera footage for corroborating SO MANY of these cases?
That he bought gloves and bin bags? 😅 I know I bought some this week hope I wasn't on camera Jeeez I might be said to have murdered someone aye
And Home Depot and Lowes.
@@youtubebram4393 But is there blood of a missing person in your vehicle?
@@youtubebram4393 Yes, because DNA is pointless lol
@@youtubebram4393 what a t-wat you are
12:58 that prosecutor is geeked. His elbow swings and repeating the words the witness said are dead give away.
Not that it matters to the case or outcome, but that dude is cracked out
I've been geeked out .. that's not it bro.
“My ex was getting serious with this guy *and she was happy* “. Wow.
Shows how truly sick a lot of men are. I'll never understand why they can't move on. Women literally outnumber men but one man will kill his ex just so she can't move on with another smh. In this case, kills his exes lover. He looks like he feels proud of what he did.
Women can be just as jealous and cruel. Most people are decent and want the best for their exes, no need to make it about men vs women.
@@lareinelester685 lol women are a lot worse than men…let’s not go there
@@Josh_you_uh Yes. Jody Arias, enough said.
He had a girlfriend also during that time.
Top notch reporting, Jesse. The summary here was so easy to follow and enjoy. Great editing.
Thankful the ‘justice system’ worked this time and found him guilty.
Feel so sorry for his Children
I wanna know when & why his daughter OA was threatened by the defendant. That was the craziest moment of this whole case. There is no doubt in my mind that he is guilty of killing Rosalio
The daughter never said WHO she was threatened by. For all you know, it could’ve been Sadie (her mom) who threatened her. This comment, or your inference, is precisely why a mistrial should’ve been declared at that exact moment because despite the daughter not saying who threatened her, you still inferred it was her dad, much like I’m sure the jury did. I’m disappointed the defense didn’t push harder for a mistrial, particularly after the judge himself said “how do we avoid a mistrial?” in response. The result was this man did not get a fair trial (in a bevy of more ways than just this) and whether or not you think someone’s the guiltiest murderous murderer, you should never want for a breakdown of our judicial process like that, because one day it just may very well be you who’s being framed & charged for murder.
@@OliviaNile A lot of people don’t understand why due process, even for the clearly guilty, is so important. And you hit the nail on the head at the conclusion of this comment.
This whole DA’s office is a mess. Remember these are the same people who brought charges against Kyle Rittenhouse (Gravely wisely gave this unpopular case to Binger).
Gravely comes across like the kind of prosecutor who would manufacture evidence in a slam dunk case.
@@OliviaNile I did have something similar happen to me, and trust me they're not bothered about the truth or who did anything they just want a conviction against anyone they bring in
What did he say in sign language?
@@OliviaNileapparently you missed when the judge asked the lawyers if they knew what it was all about and they said yes. They said it did NOT have to do with THIS case but that it involved the defendant, his daughter and the gun. So yes, it was her dad who had threatened her. It wasn't her mom's gun so how would she threaten her with it? In the very first interview, 2 days after the murder, the child had with the police and forensic interviews with professionals that deal with talking to kids, OA asked if she could leave to ask her mom something. There were multiple people there. She asked her mom if she could talk about the gun her dad had. Her mom said she had no idea what that was about and didn't know anything about him having a gun but that yes, she should tell them everything she knows and tell them the truth. Witnessed by multiple people on May 19th, 2 days after RG was killed. Maybe you should take your own advice and make sure you listen to all of the testimony and the trial before making baseless accusations. The defense was shady. They tried asking questions making it look like OA wanted to go out and get info from her mom to tell them and then fought to keep out the info about her asking her mom if she could tell about the gun and Sadie not knowing. They opened that door and were mad they couldn't keep it out and ruined their "mom was giving her info" bs.
What an excellent and experienced prosecutor!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The prison witness is not credible and all he said should be dismissed.
Such a ridiculous logic. ZA has a record so anything he claims should be not credible right? You take their info and match it to other facts. He knew that his house was crappy in a nice area. He knew that ZA was a jealous ex of Sadie and was mad she was happy with meeting someone new. He knew there were also knife wounds that matched the blood testimony. You don't discredit just because they are in jail. You use it to corroborate with the other facts and whether it matches or not.
@@lisamcclendon2720 It's not that he has a record, I just didn't find him credible
His lawyer was a bit taken with her client. Touching his leg to comfort him and showing way too emotion towards the words said about him. Very oblivious
She was so unprofessional and gross . Clearly she’s enamored with the psycho .
Mr. Gutierrezs’ family at least got legal justice but will forever grieve their beloved.
Well they better start looking for him because they've got the wrong guy.
@angeladavis9254 LOL! They've got the right guy and he is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.
@@angeladavis9254 Are you going to write to Zach in prison to try and become his girlfriend or wife?
@@johngarry1238 😂 You better hope you never end up in this situation. I'm pretty sure I'd find you guilty. JS.
@angeladavis9254 I won't ever stalk and murder people like Zachariah Anderson did, so I have nothing to worry about.
Just another person who could've been saved if stalking was immediately an arrestable offense, make it a 24 hold on first accusation. If there's any evidence like phone records then it's a felony. If I can get up to 20 years for getting caught with heroin without hurting anyone then these violent psychos should get that and more!
How you gonna prove stalking tho? Even with phone records any dude with a decent lawyer is debunking that and getting you out. Only way you could is if you had a PI or cop outside your place at all hours, nobody has money or time for that usually. You know how expensive a PI is? You know how much crime is going on in wisconsin? Crimes in this country have to be proven it has to be proven you did it, Drunk driving thats why you take a breathalyzer, Assault thats why they look for marks corresponding with the victims marks, and so on.
@@Mclovinit8171stalking could be proven by having ring doorbell cameras or other surveillance cameras set up that record the person being at your house, driving by etc. then the stalker's cell phone footprint can be matched up with the person they are stalking. phone records of the stalker calling or texting you.
Pony boy tried desperately (and fails) to pull off the classic Johnny Depp court-case look.
I thought the exact same thing 😅😅
Ponytail my friend, not Pony
I thought the man bun was outdated by now.
That bun gonna be shaved right off… 😊
ha ha ha yes..but some in the live chat felt for it!
Thankyou for doing these videos..I love watching crime cases but don't have the time..so these smaller videos are wonderful..
Every time they’re guilty, the defense goes for “botched investigation.” This defense attorney was 🗑️
She was flirting and giggling with him during the trial . She was so disrespectful and rude . Dressed inappropriately too one day with her breasts hanging out .
I randomly came across this guys final statement and sentence and had to learn more about this. Crazy stuff.
Me too🤯
I’m so annoyed at his look when his daughter is testifying.
His face when his daughter called him the defendant made me chuckle for the daughter. After all he put her through
Why is her face not shown.. Is it for protecting her identity/privacy?
@@shishiq4850 yes, since she’s a minor they’ve hid her face and name too I believe
@@shishiq4850 yes, she’s a minor.
If anyone watched his speech before sentencing he really knows how to gaslight. Also I sense a weird connection with is lawyer. She almost seems enamored by him.
She feels for much he was hurt. He had a family with the woman. She left him for a guy with two kids to start another family. It broke him so he did the unthinkable.
@@jeffm1083 sounds like you're justifying it.
This is really sad, what could have been you know.
@@1w598 Rosalio could've lived a long happy life, raised his children, become a grandparent, you know. but sadly that was all stolen from him
Very worried about some men making excuses for this stalker....
Or somehow blaming the ex girlfriend for the acts of Anderson 🤢
Well considering we actually elected A complete misogynist to be President nothing surprises me.
I am worried too. But probably not like you are, because i am a man who got backstabbed multiple times by w and never by men. Have seen the most unloyal, superficial and snake like behaviour from exes. Im not dating anymore. Its over for some of us, sometimes we can't even get to dates, no matter what we try (egoless). F transactional relationships with neither honor nor loyalty. I'll stay with the boys and ignore women (besides family). Its sad because i always wanted women friends, a family and kids. Still want but im not risking trusting again.
Sadly he killed this man out of hate. He got every bit of what he deserved. watching this man in court made me want to throw up. This guy is completely arrogant and manipulative.
Watch his chest when they read the verdict. Reality hits him.
Oh look he moved, he must be feeling something.😂
Reality? How would you react if you were innocent?
Lol
Bless this man’s mama wonderful lady ❤️
Dude belongs in prison forever there's nothing you can do to make anyone disconnected with you ever change their mind to get back with you 😒
So many people saying he’s attractive… he is not!
It's a test on whether you can separate emotion from logic. He looks like DeCaprio to me but it's irrelevant to his case. You're one step away from measuring head size to determine intelligence.
Yeah, he's definitely attractive. Probably could have found another girlfriend easily.
@@LegendLength 😂
Yeah I found that so odd.
I can see no Dicaprio and no Depp.
I can however, see meth head.. Some of these ladies are a little desperate. Lol
Please get some glasses. It has nothing to do with what he’s done. He’s just not attractive to people who have good eyesight.
He's guilty,. What an evil creep.
Have a heart for evil creeps you meany
He had no emotions, no remorse. Nothing in life is worth another's life. Couldn't imagine walking into the victims apartment, and no body found the family needs closure.
Government: Oil! Have you heard of oil!? Pretty sweet though, riiiight?
This actually is one of my worst nightmares tbh
I did not watch much of this trial. I did watch the testimony of his daughter. It was so creepy to watch him stare at her while testifying. It was very clear how torn she was. I may be wrong, but I can only imagine she must have felt like he was somehow trying to control her testimony. Then I did see he was trying to give her signals from the defendants table. So frightening. I hope she can obtain help to be sure she is coping well, and for her Mother as well. Very sad, no winners here.
I haven’t followed any of this case, but his speech before sentencing seemed believable. Everyone’s saying he’s a narcissist, and I do have to remind myself there are a lot of narcissists in the world. It doesn’t make them all killers. There are a lot of bad people in the world, but it doesn’t make them killers. so I hope justice was served and I think I need to watch more of the case. I have heard a lot about the daughters testimony being against him, so I probably should watch that to
His daughter is not loyal. She snitched on him about a man that didn’t raise her, didn’t love her. She sold her dad out & really could have stayed quiet. He didn’t kill her mother or a family mwmber. The daughter is honestly a little punk & he should have instilled better loyalty values in her. I would disown that snitch tbh.
@dom garcia please don't have kids. That child had the strength to face her father and tell the truth about how he treated his mother. Calling her a snitch!?! You're a garbage human and a complete POS!
Well justice was served
Defendant and ex gf would make for an odd couple
Nah. She was very easy for him to control and he used her up.
I thought that too x
At 13:30 this is how a lawyer should conduct their questioning. Not what we see with the murdock and paltrow trials
He is signing to his daughter, too. Before the zip it thing.
Yep full sentence.
@@TheUnderCoverMother2020 but for real… why is no one doing anything about this?!? Or even mentioning it anywhere?
Yes! Spotted that too. I wonder what was communicated.
A quality lawyer would have stood between her and her dad so she didn't realize she was being constantly glared at.
Or asked him to stop intimidating the witness, then if he continues he can get slapped with contempt of court. Have seen that happen before when I was on a jury for a domestic. The bf was intimidating the gfs mother by glaring at her while she testified
100% agree
That is one CREEPY CREEPY stare!
He's also guilty of a man-bun. His future cell mate may think otherwise though.
Obsessive Monster with extreme jealousy is a deadly combination. My Ex=husband is still stalking me. Very scary!!
Glad justice was done. Once you leave a relationship - you walk away. It doesn't matter who they get with Personally, I would never get with a guy who has man bun. I am glad she won her case.
This is what a guilty man looks and acts like. I knew first time I saw him he did it.
I hope you're not ever a juror lol
Goodcatfilms
LOL
why they have head set?
Yes!
Glad family got justice
Will you televise the sentencing and victim impact statement?
I have no idea what he saw in his ex girlfriend…he could have so many chances in life because he is quite a good looking guy … it is such a shame that he ruined his life for nothing… unbelievable…
No. It’s a shame he ended another human‘s life!
So many wrong things with this comment. Didn't even knew where to begin
Looks aren't everything...
I only caught bits & pieces but was his daughter deaf that was why he was signing ? I thought I heard her speak and listen to verbal questions and what was the device the girlfriend and her family were wearing ? Thx
No, but her mum had worked with deaf children, or something like that, and she taught the rest of the family some.
Oh dear lord - His defense had a crush on him. look at the footage of his attorney leaning into him while he licked his lips and stared at her breasts. She openly flirted with him. He is a narcissist creep.
Timestamp?
@@clintenos it's a 30 min video. I'm not rewatching
@@dukecity7688 scrub
Yes she flirted with him the entire trial and he stared at her and looked her up and down .
Zacky the evil doll man will spend the rest of his life shut away and stewing over how Sadie, Olivia and the boys are living happy, meaningful lives without giving him a single thought.
What are these headsets they are wearing?
I thought cardi b was reading the verdict 🤣 same sound
People are crazy.
That's pretty scary 2 that he involves his daughter in his stalking episode. He midas well have taken his daughter along w/him to kill the guy. Just saying he already got her so involved. Shame, shame, shame on him. Keep him FAR AWAY FROM THOSE KIDS. The daughter already knows he dad killed the guy. He is super, super, super dangerous...
All murderers get caught buying something not good in Walmart
This guy looks so creepy (17:50) and he is trying to control his daughter, even in court. I wonder if he ever thought that if he wasn't so obsessive, dominating, controlling, that she might not have left him in the first place. ❤Rest in Peace Rosalio❤
Did the Judge know about the signs he was making towards his daughter? Especially the don’t speak or keep lips closed….that was so creepy and scary…..
Jeez this prosecutor shouts when talking
He's very passionate 😆
Not passionate but wants it all his way
@@slisha4940 That is his job thou and he embraces it.
@@slisha4940 So you’re on the creepy murderers side…Got it. You’re 💩
Yeah, picked up on that at sentencing.
Do you ship to other countries?
The poor kid. Houdini is big in Wisconsin
It looks like they're prosecutor's face would fit right into that brown molding in the background. That's all I can focus on when he's talking😂
I want to take this opportunity to state,"I HATE Temu".
This guy is the spitting image of Ian Brady.
Didn't ZA tell SB that he found a love letter to/from someone else in RG's vehicle? If he thought RG was cheating on SB, why would he kill him...if such was the case they'd be bound to break up at some point.
Also, as an obsessive stalker lover, I would think ZA would kill SB rather than RG.
Aww bless
It's said all the time... a normal person can never understand the what or the why. It never makes sense. Very sad.
You make very good points. Too bad the state didn’t even investigate Sadie, or any of the other suspicious characters. And because of that we’ll never know the truth, because the state certainly did not prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt in this case. They couldn’t even prove the man is dead and no longer alive. That’s a huge problem.
@@OliviaNile I would and could never, ever, find someone guilty of murder without a body, never and I’ve set on many trials in my years and have been the only hold out. Unfortunately people don’t take the law by it’s written word and act on emotion, which is the #1 instructions to not do.
@@dudemorris7769 If I had been in this jury my vote would have definitely been guilty. Too much evidence and incriminating behaviour. There are countless victims who have ‘disappeared’ and never been found. If he had been set free would Sadie be his next victim - leaving his children without a responsible parent? Sadie’s initial mistake was thinking Zach cared about his children versus only cared about controlling her.
ACCUSED. SCOTUS recently ruled for other cases that stalking and threats MUST be proven for guilt to be established.
It’s super freaky how similar my situation is to this… count your blessings, everyone
So glad he got convicted thinks he can get away with killing people just because his girlfriend had a new boy friend. Let him rot in prison. He will not have his x girlfriend again or his children.
She was being loose. Shoulda kept her legs closed
False he was many women's boyfriend.
Shady Sadie I'd a barfly who left those children a lone to go off to mexico with someone she hardly new. She also traumatized their daughter with that pathetic sign in the back of her car and made O A testify against her father and put him a way for a long time. Shame on Sadie and the Jury for not being intelligent enough to see through this made up fabricated story the DA put out there. Ridiculous.
I’m guessing you didn’t watch the trial
Ya not really sure what you’re talking about when you say had a new boyfriend. Guitierrez literally had a date with another woman the night he was allegedly killed. Or went missing. He was also seeing another woman too. Three total. No exclusivity other than in Sadie’s head. Makes you wonder if she happened upon him with his other date that night.
Unfortunately, in the UK where I live it is illegal to carry pepper spray. The law here is far more protective of criminals than it is the victims and women's safety is pretty low down on the list of priorities . In my opinion.
Australia also
Hair spray and other legal things you can spray will do just as much damage.
@@Bettinasisrg ...but if you used it as a 'weapon' against a criminal..you would be prosecuted and the criminal would be allowed to sue the victim for damages to property and person...
@@kitchenworker446 no, you'd be just fine. If someone was attacking you and you got hold of your alcohol/perfume/deodorant etc spray, in th UK you'd not be the one in trouble. Now if you were to carry something illegal/suspicious and use it unfortunately it might be a different story.
Uk is a leftist hellhole. To many wogs.
Hello, You...
Watching him watch the daughter and not blinking like he was waiting for her to look at him!
Exactly how my ex stared at me when we were in court. He knew he could intimidate me with that stare.
Couldn’t liquid blood splatter occur with the first blow though? If the object used in the blunt force trauma broke skin & revealed blood upon the first strike / blow / hit & then it had blood on the object as it was pulled back, it would splatter blood, would it not? Couldn’t blood spew from the body itself to make such splatter upon the first blow too?- Especially if the object struck a certain body of the body, like an area with a big vein / artery (are arteries just below the skin? I don’t think so but I’m sure certain objects could make a deep enough wound / hole upon one hit to strike & cut open an artery as well as the flesh & muscle above it) as the area would then spurt blood outward from the body. Correct?
He could have covered his head to catch blood splatter. Arteries are deep. If however the artery burst internally you would not see much blood. The last thought I have is Police don't work with possibilities they worked with probability. Is what you are saying probable or possible?
Nicole Muller/Mueller-have you EVER heard about “professional/attorney-client boundaries”?? Watching the interaction between this attorney with her psychopath client was so off-putting, left a bad taste…just inappropriate.
Nicole-I’m embarrassed FOR you!
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I've been in court with a nut case like this for 3 years. The feds wouldn't charge him but the state of Florida has. He has just appealed my order of protection the FL supreme court last month. I think he even has his lawyers convinced that the 100 instances of stalking, harassment, and cyberstalking were just nothing. Let me know if you want to cover the story.
This guy went to his hairstylist and said "Uhhhh, can I get the Alexander Jackson cut, fam"?
I'm not seeing anyone interpreting the signs he made to her. The first one is "father" and I believe there is a "mother" in there, I think rubbing the chest is "please" and then the last is "thanks" But I didn't catch the whole phrase, I'm not great at ASL. Anyone know? Starts around the 21:40 mark.
What is Sadie wearing when shes sitting in the gallery?
His lawyer looks like his ex
The way he stares at his daughter whilst she is testifying gives me the heebie-jeebies, he doesn't even blink, wtaf!!!!!!
its called intimidating a witness and its common place
Inmates are going to love his man bun!
isn’t she supposed to be saying “we the jury find in the INDICTMENT” , not “in the information” smh 🤦🏼♀️
Did the defence help the jury see any other threats that were around this victim? Or was Zachariah the only problem or known threat in this victim’s life?
How did he lift 240 lbs of dead weight though? ZA is not a huge man. What's with the friend who had a date to meet Guttierez at his townhouse at the time ZA was in the house?
Great Questions. The puzzle doesn't quite fit does it?
& lift his dead body and manage to not be seen by anyone!
He probably lifted him up under the armpits and dragged him bit by bit and didn’t get caught doing it.
Zach lost weight, he was more stocky at the time of the crime.
Difficult not impossible at all.
The defense’s attorney isn’t very smart & you can tell by the way she spoke and laid out her argument. He was always gonna lose this one lol
Jesse don't forget the word "allegedly". I do hope the family learns what happened to their son.
I mean we can say "allegedly" without a body all we want but what matters is there was obviously enough for a jury to pull the trigger. But I did not watch the case nor did I really study it and it being out of wisconsin leads me to believe it wasnt handled with the greatest care by the DA. I got a feeling he did it tho, just looking at the basic motives, the guys record, and the fact he had already gotten in trouble for stalking her. If he didnt do it then theres a mountain of coinciding evidence sitting next to him and he was put into one of the greatest set ups of all time.
Well said
Never wear a man bun to a murder case.
I wonder how much time they shaved off the cellmate’s sentence to get him to testify.
10 years
What was the judge’s sentence?
Life wont make a decision on parole till hey elgible which is when he turns 95
Ohhh ok. So he put the body in a trash composer. That body is gone and unfortunately will never be found 🥺 the daughter testifying broke my heart for her having to witness her father spying on her mom and her new lover. She’s a strong one
Seen this guys family on Facebook make a post that theirs not enough evidence & that he is innocent lol blaming his ex that she set him up.
Guilty on all counts!