I hate how they cheat and try to get away with its not good to do and it's fake so don't watch it anymore and I think u should think about u play speed runs and please don't cheat on them Thank u and I love u all so much 💓 💗
Drem was probably just a dream fan who wanted to do what dream does but wasnt good enough, so he cheated and got exposed by his favourite youtuber Dream himself... now if he does an actual speedrun, people wont care because he is already known for cheating. I feel bad for him
Such an awesome video! It’s so cool to see the history behind the videos that I’m making. They take me a TON of time, and I’m definitely looking for more ways to innovate every episode I make. 👍 thanks Fizzy Banger for making a banger video 🙏
ayo, glad to hear you enjoyed the video! I can't wait to see how the story of fake Minecraft speedruns continues from here, and how you'll one-up the trend in the future! :-)
He did a 10 page document about how his speedrun is legit. But when he is about to get caught, he only reveal 70% of the truth. If he wants to admit and ask for forgiveness, at least be 100% truthful. What I meant is that when he does the document, he should have seen his game was modified. But all he say is "I did not know I cheated, not on purpose"
To those that don’t understand mods A mod from 1.15 doesn’t just magically work in 1.16 They are initialized in code to run on certain versions Plus if it’s changing drop odds on the next version then it’s changing odds on the previous version as it would be coded todo so A mod doesn’t just magically change odds of drops UNLESS it’s coded todo such a thing
*only 3 months later. but yeah, its kinda funny that Drem and Dream basically did the same thing, and you could even compare the way they denied accusations and treated the speedrun moderators. Maybe Dream was inspired by Drem to cheat, lol
@@PhoenixGami the speedrunning community did not accept his apology and his runs were deleted (not like it would matter since dream can’t even route a bastion)
@@FizzyBanger i don’t think dream was lying that he cheated mistakenly cuz my friend on java thought of doing a speedrun (forgot the time he got) but i remember he told he’ll get 11th place on leaderboard then he saw that his world had a data pack which he used to troll me (not lying this is true)
I'll be honest, the Minecraft community is pretty amazing, but I hate how youtubers just make videos about trends, call it fake speedrun, 100 days, "caves, ocean, etc world", Minecraft but..., etc. It isn't fun, most of the time looks totally fake and fixed, and the originality is below the ground, curious when we speak about a game that's about creativity.
there definitely needs to be more originality in the MC community, I agree. But the thing is, these trends have large audiences, and as long as ppl keep enjoying them, then the trends won't die. Hopefully, some new trends and new ideas will come up soon!
It's crazy to think drem could have gotten away with it if he had spliced his video just a bit differently, showing the world generation for his set seed instead and putting the cut between clicking create world and the loading starting.
Someone with 2k subscribers: you cheated on your speedrun dream Dream: Umm actually, the biggest thing that I think should make “the why” suspicious is what happened AFTER the 1.16 runs. After I ran 1.16, I hopped off and one of the very next days I ran 1.15. Now this doesn’t seem significant, except for the fact that I had a run where I entered the stronghold at 17:45. The current record at the time being 21:26. Meaning I had over 3:30 to beat the game to get world record, and longer just to get a top 5 time. I was just short on pearls due to ender men spawning, and wasn’t able to get world record. However, in an alternate universe where I get a few endermen spawns on the way to the stronghold during the night, which is actually the more likely scenario, I end up in the end around 18:30, with a pretty damn good chance at getting world record (I had the beds to one cycle). The interesting thing isn’t that I got this time, it’s that I got this time on a non modded client, and I got this time with generally average RNG, on a verifiable seed that can’t be cheated. If this run wasn’t cheated, obviously that would probably imply that my other (3) 1.15 world records weren’t cheated either. This is something that seems fairly accepted amongst the mod team and speedrun discord, especially because my initial world record was on a very unoptimized category where I chopped wood for 7 minutes. So then that poses again the question, why. Why when I know that I am fully capable of taking a world record legit, on stream, on a different version that I care about, would I decide to randomly cheat in a very specific way on a version that I have clarified I don’t really care about on many occasions. Why would I risk my entire reputation just to get a sub 25 time on a version I don’t care about, and then not cheat to get world record on a version I main. Now, that makes total sense, but only if you believe that I didn’t cheat previously. So then the question I have for you if you believe that I cheated my offline 1.15 runs, is again, why would I do this then? In your eyes, I was able to get away with faking 3 world records, offline, with very little questions asked and no accusations. If that was the case, why would I stream myself cheating for no reason? I’ve expressed on many occasions in private and public my disdain for streaming speedruns, and that I prefer to run offline by a large margin. I had also gotten explicit permission to run offline from Willz, and based on the speedrun rules it was perfectly fine. I also ran 1.15 online and had near identical results to my offline runs that were published. If I was cheating for “clout” or any benefit, why would I not just splice a 1.16 world record offline and look like a god? Or why would I not just do the exact same thing for 1.15. Why would I settle for live streaming for a sub 25 time, and then moving on to running a category for WR that doesn’t even have the same system I supposedly cheated (bartering). To me, that doesn’t make any sense whatsoever, and I feel like to most reasonable people it wouldn’t either. Now continuing on with “the why”, let’s talk about further motive. I care about speedrunning a lot as a whole, and I think that’s something that’s very easily provable through my public and private actions. I’ve helped grow the community and the major members of it, while always trying to make sure that speedrunning has integrity. I’ve helped the mod team on multiple occasions try to and succeed at catching splicers and cheaters.
All this speedrunners faking runs is funny because every time someone exposes another person for cheating time passes and they get exposed for cheating
Before I watch. 2 Names. Dream, and the guy who caught Dream, MinecrAvenger. Dream had mods running that increased his drop rates for pearl trades and blaze rods. A math youtuber used only the code to peg the odds of his luck at something around 1 in 1 SEPTILLION. Dream later confessed and said he had mistakenly had the mods installed and thought they were only server side mods. Believe it or not. Later, one of the guys who caught Dream, MinecrAvenger was exposed for being the biggest cheater the Minecraft Speedrun community has ever seen. And the story of him being caught is much more interesting. It involves generating ever chest loot table possible to see what was impossible, ender dragon perch times, and the rabbit hole goes on. I honestly believe most of dreams speed runs were real. Whatever happened in the end whether it was intentional or not, happened in the end, I think. But that's just an opinion, and opinions are like assholes. However, dream's behavior upon being caught was textbook cheater behavior. He went so far as to try to out math the real math with someone he claimed was a university professor. If there was a real professor, they would have gotten the odds right... 1 in something Septillion which is way worse odds than even the Speedrun.com people came up with. But those were the real odds. The math dude that did a video on it is legit, and it's a good watch if you like math/probabilities/etc. You'll find me in the comments defending dream regarding actual proof of wrongdoing vs probabilities, but I was wrong. Won't be the last time either.
This whole fake speedruns and it’s origin is truly unknown and the dream’s speed runs is definitely a video of its own. Thanks for the video fizzy it was a great video 👍🏻
The trend is about milking at this point. There's about 105810-751741571487510571- fake minecraft speedrun videos now. They're not even interesting anymore.
After the whole Speedrun Drama and what not with Dream, overtime I begin to dislike Dream and how he handles situations. He's very reckless with his huge following.
incorrect, Dream held the record for 1.16+, Random Seed, Glitchless at the time Drem uploaded his World Record attempt, but it was later taken by german Speedrunner NiceTwice, who was featured on the leaderboards in every commentary video talking about Drem.
Fake speedruns may waste moderaters' time, but I do agree that they're entertaining to watch, so I suppose we can't really be too angry at people who do them!
Hey well researched vid ngl but you didn't mention this video about it (ruclips.net/video/G3Yzk-3SZfs/видео.html) on the Dream cheating situation. It's basically Karl Jobsts newest vid about the situation summarizing the drama and explaining missinformation about it too and in the end concluded that the cheating wasn't intentional with others like antvenom saying it wasn't intentional as well.
Your Videos are so nice I cant speak englich very well, but i think in english you'd say ,, You have my Sub and Like!'' (I dont know how i should say it but i think you understood me :) )
there is actually a podcast saying that according to the maths it was impossible for dream to get ender pearls from the piglin so fast Edit: oh I watched more of the video and I found out the cheating was already proven
oh, definitely! "Minecraft, But" is becoming heavily saturated, and the only ppl who really benefit from the trend are those who've been on the trend early or have a reallyyy big core fanbase. New ppl aren't really popping off on Minecraft But videos these days.
What are your thoughts on Fake Minecraft Speedruns as a trend? Also, what do you think of cheaters in the MCSR community?
Let me know in the comments!
They’re the FUNNIEST
(Fake speedruns ever)
Fake speedruns are bad but I don't think anyone need to hate someone for this for more than 2 or 3 months is. The obvious fake runs are funny I guess.
@Ayundaru 😂 not bias or anything
I hate how they cheat and try to get away with its not good to do and it's fake so don't watch it anymore and I think u should think about u play speed runs and please don't cheat on them
Thank u and I love u all so much 💓 💗
Make more fake Speedruns most are hilariously spliced
Drem was probably just a dream fan who wanted to do what dream does but wasnt good enough, so he cheated and got exposed by his favourite youtuber Dream himself... now if he does an actual speedrun, people wont care because he is already known for cheating. I feel bad for him
Dream also cheated "'unintentionally" but nobody really cares. It shows how fame and 9 year olds can bury the truth.
@@yvricz1410 yes true very true
it would've been funny if Drem was a real speedrunner, and he broke Dream's world record, but alas, we got a cheater instead
@@FizzyBanger yes its sad
I misread the whole comment at first and thought you said: ''Dream was just a dream fan himself'' [Continues] and I was very confused.
Drem and Dream are literally the pointing Spidermen meme
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Faxs Faxs Faxs
Such an awesome video! It’s so cool to see the history behind the videos that I’m making. They take me a TON of time, and I’m definitely looking for more ways to innovate every episode I make. 👍 thanks Fizzy Banger for making a banger video 🙏
ayo, glad to hear you enjoyed the video! I can't wait to see how the story of fake Minecraft speedruns continues from here, and how you'll one-up the trend in the future! :-)
@@FizzyBanger niceeeeee vids
The man himself replied
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Really makes me hate myself for spending so long on my video lol
He did a 10 page document about how his speedrun is legit. But when he is about to get caught, he only reveal 70% of the truth. If he wants to admit and ask for forgiveness, at least be 100% truthful. What I meant is that when he does the document, he should have seen his game was modified. But all he say is "I did not know I cheated, not on purpose"
There was never an apology, only a pastebin. Since it's his first drama and shit I don't expect better.
@@Heraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa first drama lol it's not his first drama
To those that don’t understand mods
A mod from 1.15 doesn’t just magically work in 1.16
They are initialized in code to run on certain versions
Plus if it’s changing drop odds on the next version then it’s changing odds on the previous version as it would be coded todo so
A mod doesn’t just magically change odds of drops UNLESS it’s coded todo such a thing
I like how you said “drem, not dream” and yet close to a year later dream cheated
*only 3 months later. but yeah, its kinda funny that Drem and Dream basically did the same thing, and you could even compare the way they denied accusations and treated the speedrun moderators. Maybe Dream was inspired by Drem to cheat, lol
@@FizzyBanger wait 3 months I thought it was more like a year lol
Yea but at least Dream apologized and owned up
@@PhoenixGami the speedrunning community did not accept his apology and his runs were deleted (not like it would matter since dream can’t even route a bastion)
Dream did legit speed runs and didint cheat even a bit
i didnt know that the loading screen is THAT RELEVANT
Been looking forward to this one, you cover these topics really well.
Thank you so much! I've been hyping up this video for a while :)
@@FizzyBanger i don’t think dream was lying that he cheated mistakenly cuz my friend on java thought of doing a speedrun (forgot the time he got) but i remember he told he’ll get 11th place on leaderboard then he saw that his world had a data pack which he used to troll me (not lying this is true)
"Not lying this is true" has the exact same energy as "100% real (NOT FAKE)" so I hope that's what you were going for
Mojang needs to allow Java and Bedrock players to choose who monitors their servers instead of enforcing their own rules on every single one.
Fantastic analysis dude! Loved it.
thanks man! :))
Hey Brock I really like your vids when is the next hardcore vid?
Fizzy Banger is literally a banger when he posts!!
this is true :))
Is this one of the reasons why people don't really like Dream? Alongside the Dream Stans
I'll be honest, the Minecraft community is pretty amazing, but I hate how youtubers just make videos about trends, call it fake speedrun, 100 days, "caves, ocean, etc world", Minecraft but..., etc. It isn't fun, most of the time looks totally fake and fixed, and the originality is below the ground, curious when we speak about a game that's about creativity.
there definitely needs to be more originality in the MC community, I agree. But the thing is, these trends have large audiences, and as long as ppl keep enjoying them, then the trends won't die. Hopefully, some new trends and new ideas will come up soon!
Now in 2022 " I escaped the hardest prison in Minecraft" titled video were trending origin by seawatt gaming
I have plans to look at that trend in a future video! It's definitely a really cool one :)
But then I had a very good idea. I used f5...
It's crazy to think drem could have gotten away with it if he had spliced his video just a bit differently, showing the world generation for his set seed instead and putting the cut between clicking create world and the loading starting.
Someone with 2k subscribers: you cheated on your speedrun dream
Dream: Umm actually, the biggest thing that I think should make “the why” suspicious is what happened AFTER the
1.16 runs. After I ran 1.16, I hopped off and one of the very next days I ran 1.15. Now this
doesn’t seem significant, except for the fact that I had a run where I entered the stronghold at
17:45. The current record at the time being 21:26. Meaning I had over 3:30 to beat the game to
get world record, and longer just to get a top 5 time. I was just short on pearls due to ender men
spawning, and wasn’t able to get world record.
However, in an alternate universe where I get a few endermen spawns on the way to the
stronghold during the night, which is actually the more likely scenario, I end up in the end
around 18:30, with a pretty damn good chance at getting world record (I had the beds to one
cycle). The interesting thing isn’t that I got this time, it’s that I got this time on a non modded
client, and I got this time with generally average RNG, on a verifiable seed that can’t be
cheated. If this run wasn’t cheated, obviously that would probably imply that my other (3) 1.15
world records weren’t cheated either. This is something that seems fairly accepted amongst the
mod team and speedrun discord, especially because my initial world record was on a very
unoptimized category where I chopped wood for 7 minutes.
So then that poses again the question, why. Why when I know that I am fully capable of taking a
world record legit, on stream, on a different version that I care about, would I decide to randomly
cheat in a very specific way on a version that I have clarified I don’t really care about on many
occasions. Why would I risk my entire reputation just to get a sub 25 time on a version I don’t
care about, and then not cheat to get world record on a version I main.
Now, that makes total sense, but only if you believe that I didn’t cheat previously. So then the
question I have for you if you believe that I cheated my offline 1.15 runs, is again, why would I
do this then? In your eyes, I was able to get away with faking 3 world records, offline, with very
little questions asked and no accusations. If that was the case, why would I stream myself
cheating for no reason? I’ve expressed on many occasions in private and public my disdain for
streaming speedruns, and that I prefer to run offline by a large margin. I had also gotten explicit
permission to run offline from Willz, and based on the speedrun rules it was perfectly fine. I also
ran 1.15 online and had near identical results to my offline runs that were published.
If I was cheating for “clout” or any benefit, why would I not just splice a 1.16 world record offline
and look like a god? Or why would I not just do the exact same thing for 1.15. Why would I settle
for live streaming for a sub 25 time, and then moving on to running a category for WR that
doesn’t even have the same system I supposedly cheated (bartering). To me, that doesn’t make
any sense whatsoever, and I feel like to most reasonable people it wouldn’t either.
Now continuing on with “the why”, let’s talk about further motive. I care about speedrunning a lot
as a whole, and I think that’s something that’s very easily provable through my public and
private actions. I’ve helped grow the community and the major members of it, while always
trying to make sure that speedrunning has integrity. I’ve helped the mod team on multiple
occasions try to and succeed at catching splicers and cheaters.
Lol one of my recommended videos was about that guy exposing fake minecraft speedruns while u were talking about it
Ive been craving for a new video by you, and needless to say, you made is amazing as always
You deserve this popularity, you really work hard for these vids
When he said ‘I messaged sipover about his fake Minecraft speedrun video’ I thought ‘why does every RUclipsr know each other?’
Because we got connections. Even ive (kinda) talked to people like fizzy and sipover lol
Thanks Fizzy, even I tired to find out the story of fake speedrun but I failed
the full story is quite interesting, glad to have helped bring more attention to it!
Your videos are far too good. You deserve millions of subscribers. Keep it up with this amazing content!
I really appreciate this comment :))
One of my rules is, once caught, confess everything
ik im "late"
bt a lot of videos with fake speedruns shows a video of a troll who just maked a video showing a fake video speedrun on purpose
Not been here in a while.... last time I was you were at 9k subs. Congrats dude
wow, you've been subbed for a while! Cool to see you here again :)
Now you have to make a Fake Speedrun video!
/j
Great video as always!
I'm all for hijacking another trend! I did it to 100 Days, next stop, Fake Speedrunz >:)
He actually did lol and it was amazing
I just read the title and thought that fake Minecraft speedruns just had a storyline for some reason.
in a way, the trend has went thru an interesting series of events tho
It’s funny how dream pointed out how drem cheated when dream was currently cheating.
Some fake speedruns are just jokes
Gosh, i absolutely hate it when youtubers add obviously joke speedruns...
All this speedrunners faking runs is funny because every time someone exposes another person for cheating time passes and they get exposed for cheating
Imagine being the first person to search "Fake Minecraft speedrun"
The editing and scripting is insane
great video bro!
ayyy, thanks :)
Before I watch. 2 Names. Dream, and the guy who caught Dream, MinecrAvenger. Dream had mods running that increased his drop rates for pearl trades and blaze rods. A math youtuber used only the code to peg the odds of his luck at something around 1 in 1 SEPTILLION. Dream later confessed and said he had mistakenly had the mods installed and thought they were only server side mods. Believe it or not. Later, one of the guys who caught Dream, MinecrAvenger was exposed for being the biggest cheater the Minecraft Speedrun community has ever seen. And the story of him being caught is much more interesting. It involves generating ever chest loot table possible to see what was impossible, ender dragon perch times, and the rabbit hole goes on. I honestly believe most of dreams speed runs were real. Whatever happened in the end whether it was intentional or not, happened in the end, I think. But that's just an opinion, and opinions are like assholes. However, dream's behavior upon being caught was textbook cheater behavior. He went so far as to try to out math the real math with someone he claimed was a university professor. If there was a real professor, they would have gotten the odds right... 1 in something Septillion which is way worse odds than even the Speedrun.com people came up with. But those were the real odds. The math dude that did a video on it is legit, and it's a good watch if you like math/probabilities/etc. You'll find me in the comments defending dream regarding actual proof of wrongdoing vs probabilities, but I was wrong. Won't be the last time either.
Takes one to know one.
If you are cheating in your speedruns and doing it well, you can easily spot people that don't do it as well as you.
Great content! The fact that this has 100k Views but zero dislikes is impressive. (at least for now that's how it is)
Oh wow, when I was watching I completely forgot this was about fake speedruns. I thought I was literally just about drem
This whole fake speedruns and it’s origin is truly unknown and the dream’s speed runs is definitely a video of its own.
Thanks for the video fizzy it was a great video 👍🏻
This is a really cool topic
amazing video this is better than most history mc videos
In an Alternative Universe he Would Said "Dream,Not Drem"
I think the most famous and the smartest fake speedruner is drem
well, he got caught, so maybe not the smartest 😬
You should do escape room videos… like SeaWattGaming. Great video dude 😎
Fake speedrun
@STEVE Placeholder your first
fr, you were the first comment. respect!
Fizzy you are as amazing as your content
Hold up you only get 50k subs?!
You really looked like the kind of channel that has 1.345million
Subbed
That means a lot to me! Thank you :))
The trend is about milking at this point. There's about 105810-751741571487510571- fake minecraft speedrun videos now. They're not even interesting anymore.
I find it hilarious how both sides did homework lol
Alternative title: "fake Minecraft speedruns be like" be like
After the whole Speedrun Drama and what not with Dream, overtime I begin to dislike Dream and how he handles situations.
He's very reckless with his huge following.
Almost 50k and also well edited video
thank you! hopefully 50k subs happens soon
4:10 "Sipover was already making fake minecraft speedruns before it was cool"
So was dream.
No, he meant things like "The FUNNIEST FAKE Minecraft Speedruns Ever...", not actual fake speedruns.
@@majorse000 it's a joke
Love this channel , I’ve been watching since 17k subs, even though this channel has amazingly grown he deserves way more views!
I think when dream said he did cheat on the 1.16 speed run I think he said that to stop the argument
Bro ayundaru exposes the fake speedrunner
I have seen so many videos about these fake mc speedruns and I knew that alot were fake easily
Congrats on 49k subs
Keep up the good work man, really like the content you put out. However, dream did the not hold the wr when drem claimed he got the wr
incorrect, Dream held the record for 1.16+, Random Seed, Glitchless at the time Drem uploaded his World Record attempt, but it was later taken by german Speedrunner NiceTwice, who was featured on the leaderboards in every commentary video talking about Drem.
Fake speedruns may waste moderaters' time, but I do agree that they're entertaining to watch, so I suppose we can't really be too angry at people who do them!
Hey well researched vid ngl but you didn't mention this video about it (ruclips.net/video/G3Yzk-3SZfs/видео.html) on the Dream cheating situation. It's basically Karl Jobsts newest vid about the situation summarizing the drama and explaining missinformation about it too and in the end concluded that the cheating wasn't intentional with others like antvenom saying it wasn't intentional as well.
Drem was just Dreams burner RUclips account
y0u cant disagree that ayandaru is the peak 0f reacting t0 fake mc speedruns
There was a fake speedrun on my birthday D:
(Drem)
this is great keep it up!!
The only youtuber that makes fake minecraft speedrun videos I watch is Ayundaru.
i hate that fact is he cheating at tnt run 6:16
Jesus christ they all made insane yap sessions 💀
"drem, not dream. but also dream."
I’m just enjoying the tnt run
Does anyone noticed that he introduced himself in the end of the video ? xd
Btw
Good video !
consistent bangers
Woah new video from Fizzy Banger
ikr woah! I rarely upload, but when I do, it's always a banger lol
You deserve more subs bro
Your Videos are so nice
I cant speak englich very well, but i think in english you'd say ,, You have my Sub and Like!''
(I dont know how i should say it but i think you understood me :) )
there is actually a podcast saying that according to the maths it was impossible for dream to get ender pearls from the piglin so fast
Edit: oh I watched more of the video and I found out the cheating was already proven
Eyyyyyy it's another Fizzy *BANGER*
every thumbnail i saw yesterday:
iTs nOt fAkE gUyS
I wonder how big dreams font was.
My loading screen is in the middle idk why its completely weird
That video was up uploaded on my birthday :D @ 5:05
why are people getting angry on a block game
why didn't he trim it after the loading screen?
I used this same song at 8:28 for a school video for pe lol
My life in a nutshell: 3:36
Under 1 hour gang
If the owner trademarks it XD
Great video! Very interesting!
thanks! :)
How about the real fake speed runs?
what do you mean?
@@FizzyBanger the fake speedruns that are real (eg they actually exist, but arent legit)
i will make a video on beating minecraft in creative
The research that goes into these videos is amazing! I love these videos! :)
glad to hear someone appreciating the research! This one took a long, long time to get all the facts together
@@FizzyBanger Research goes under appreciated so I'm here to appreciate it 😋
octo 19 my birthday bruh
i feel like the same is happening with minecraft but
oh, definitely! "Minecraft, But" is becoming heavily saturated, and the only ppl who really benefit from the trend are those who've been on the trend early or have a reallyyy big core fanbase. New ppl aren't really popping off on Minecraft But videos these days.
@@FizzyBanger I actually plan on making challenging Minecraft but videos
remember me when you get famous.
good luck ;)
Almost 50k!!!
Banger
Hold up i so Preston skin and blue dream skin in dis video
I love how the fake speedruns are all a running joke about how much of a fraud Dream is lmaoo
The end got me
Why does dream have a cat as a profile picture now? Maybe u could explain that lol
its bcos it's his cat, lolol
Another banger very nice 👍