Machining a Diamond shape with a Spin Indexer
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2019
- This video demonstrates a creative use for a 5-C spin indexer. I'll side mill one end and use a flycutter on the other to show a few milling approaches that can be used on your mill. The final "one way part" is very creative.
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It's rare to watch one of your videos where I don't pick up a trick or two. And in many I learn a whole lot. And thank you for sharing your knowledge in this way. But this was one of those rare ones. For a change thanks to already using my own spindexer a fair amount I got to sit back and relax while I watched something a bit different take shape.
Part of what I like is the pacing of your videos. Not filled with time wasters and yet there's a touch of machining art to them too. And typically with lots of gold nuggets of knowledge and experience being shared. Your channel is one of the first I tend to suggest or to check that other machine shop guys watch. And when I run across a fellow Joe Pi fan there's always a big smile of appreciation for good quality time spent on YT.
I hope you enjoy making these as much as we enjoy watching them.
I do. Thanks for the feedback.
Joe you are an amazing machinist... great teacher you always amaze me. Thank you for your time and effort to teach us new stuff. I really look up to you I'm a home machinist. I have learned so much from you.!!! Keep rocking out the wonderful videos they are greatly appreciated.
I am a retired machinist, from a one man, company owned shop. I wish that I had found your channel while I was still working. If I was the owner of a small shop, I would require / pay for each new employee to watch all your vids. Even a small tip - using banding to hold parallels - makes time spent watching vids worth every cent paid. - I used to use folded packing styrofoam, but it got ragged and needed to be replaced often. - Thank you Joe, your experience / patience is appreciated.
Your ability to take something that seems complicated at first glance and make it appear so easy never stops to amaze me. I would love to see how you would approach making something like a 20 sided die. I have thought about it a few times and don't see a way without some special work holding setup.
I made one! And it came out right the first time! All the women in my neighborhood want one! I gotta say, this is one of the coolest things I've made. I got real pleasure out of it.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks Joe! I always appreciate your videos and learn from them.
As always very nicely explained and beautifully made. Thank You Joe 👍
AS someone who appsolutely nothing about this sort of work . I find it fascination what you can make . Thank you for posting !
Wish I had a spin indexer before I got engaged... would have saved me a whole lot of cash!
Spin indexer, yet another accessory to purchase on the long list. It was good to shake your hand and say thanks for sharing your knowledge here on RUclips at the Good of the Land Fest.
The tool list will always grow. It was good to meet you all as well. the Good of the Land festival is a great place to explore and meet people. Justin, his wife and support team did a great job.
Awesome demo on using the spin indexer!
Thanks for the anniversary gift idea.
I always discover a different way to look at something with your videos. Thank you!
Great. thats the underlying message.
From good to good job as always , you are a master sir.
Thank you for sharing
Very nice work Joe. I like it.
Great idea. I do have one, used it a few times only. I really learned something
Thanks for showing.
Awesome little project. I'm definitely going to give it a try. I'm going to try it with some clear acrylic. Thanks for great tutorial! 👍
Excellent project and tutorial Joe, many thanks for sharing.
Indeed, out of the box. It's magnificent.
Thanks. Fun project.
DIAMOND GEEZER. that is a complement from an old engineer here in the UNITED KINGDOM., Thank you for a great demo. i have milled slots in the base of the indexer also my indexer came with E-R 32 Colette chuck.great bit of kit.
Perfect Joe as always, my spin indexer just arrived today, so obviously I searched for a video by your good self
Thank you Sir
Sweet plumbBob. Thanks for sharing. Needs a line cap.
Good Idea.
Always learning something new from you Joe. I've never used an indexer but now I have a hankering for one...
Why would anyone downvote this vid? Great content Thanks Joe!
Loved that. Thank you Joe!
As we have come to expect, an interesting and different take on an old subject.
For mounting the indexer, I milled an open ended slot in each side to take hold down bolts.
I just made one Joe. It was easier than I expected but still a bit tricky as my mill is not very big. I used the Spindexer in my vice and tipped it up at an angle of 30° for the first cuts with a Flycutter, then repositioned it in the vice 45° downwards and used an insert mill. Thanks for the Video! 😉
Awesome technique Joe!! I use a spin indexer almost everyday for grinding relief on endmills. Very handy piece of equipment! Take care!!
We called it the "Whirligig" in our tool shop. Very useful piece of equipment. Gave you a thumbs up for this one. Work safe.
I've called it that as well. Have you ever seen the Harig indexer. Next level stuff. www.harigmfg.com/grindall1g.html
Makes me think I really ought to 'play' with mine again sometime - not used it a whole lot. Nice demo Joe, thanks. :)
Diamonds are forever Joe, Nicely done!
Great video! Love your approach to machining always learn something! Thank you.
Pretty slick Joe it's great to think outside the box
I had a spin indexer, a cheap Chinese one, actually did some fairly critical work with it. I actually had considered retro fitting a couple angular contact rollers to it. I was working in a shop around 2006, the recession hit, when I got laid off, I left it behind. Not as stupid as getting addicted to cigarettes, but close. Nice tool. Never leave yours behind!
Love the way you play! Great job!
cool as usual Joe. thanks for taking the time
Hello Emma. thanks for watching. Fun project.
I love it.
You make it look so easy.
Great tutorial. Good teachers use interesting visuals when teaching. You sir are a good teacher.
Thank you for your continued support.
Your so amazing joe a true master ,I so appreciate you sharing your knowledge,Thank you from Canada 🇨🇦.Tony
Thanks Tony.
Beautiful
good lesson, as you mentioned my spin indexer base has been machined square.....never the thought of mounting to the rotary table, but now one to remember
Meatball! Lol kinda meatballed my last mill project too. Love the techniques you use here. Never would have guessed how this was done on manual machines.
Hey I have been subscribed to your channel foor several years now. I really like the videos and I appreciate the Metric values you report. I am sure the british people watching would appreciate but so do I, Regards from the Netherlands! I like the instruction/tip video's keep them coming.
Thanks for the support. Tell your coworkers.
from someone new to mill that would be a great practice part..thanks
Love your Tips Joe. Keep em coming.
You bet.
Decent as hell - Gonna take a heck of a ring to hold that "Rock." Thank ya for demoing that process.
That was really cool. It looks like you could use this kind of setup for making the precise angled plates to assemble a brass icosahedron or dodecahedron box.
Thanks Joe, that was very interesting 👍
thinking outside the box, very nice job
Well Thanks again Joe Pie.. been trying to fit a decent sized rotary table into my budget for a new concept wind turbine project I'm currently scaling up from a very successful model, my favorite tooling and equipment store has a spindexer on sale but I having never used one felt reluctant to spend the money, nice job on the vid. I look forward to more vids and to using my new Spin Indexer. Cheers!
Great demonstration! I might have to try this.
Joe! I have a 16 tooth gear, its 22.5 degrees between centers in teeth. I need to cut the center between each tooth. So i make a fixture to line up the gear in the collet. I cut every other tooth, 45 degrees, then remove the gear and line it up with the fixture to cut the odd number teeth. I have now cut at every 22.5 degrees. 😁 Machinists will make it happen!
yeah! pretty good keeping your (and our) minds on problem solving, the tough to machine parts. Dos'nt get better than that thanks again Joe love nerdbydesigns rubber tube idea too
Thanks, Joe. “Meatball Setup” & “One Way Part” added to the lexicon! ^___^
Right next to " Unloosen"
That looks like fun, Joe. I'm overdue for some non-production work in the shop and stuff like this is just what I need. Thank you, sir. Hope all is well! - Tom Z
Hi Tom. Make a big one and use it for a paperweight. Fun project.
That was such a joy to watch.
Just having fun.
Absolutely brilliant!!!
Very creative, thanks for sharing
Awesome demo Joe!
Never seen a part with so much geometry awesome buddy
Very cool. I'm wondering if I can make up one of these with the 12 sided collet block that I've just ordered. I think it will be possible.
Hey Joe, looks fantasic on the surface finish, always learning new stuff, and really like your comments on hold down and saftey in the shop. I could watch your vids for hours on end. If you would be so kind as to make another one in a very hard material in a video for us in the future try having all the fly cutter facets 15 degrees off from the facets made on the lathe. lets see how the edges turn out and see what kind of burrs occur on a corner having three facets meet instead of four.. Thanks for all your hard work and careful thought..
Nice. Very good Joe.
My father made me a couple of custom tie rod ends for my 1985 Mustang GT and he used one of these indexers to machine the hex nut on one end of the rod end.
Thats one of many uses for sure.
Love your channel Joe. This video inspired me to cut some diamonds myself. Wish I could send you some pictures.
great short and fun video Joe. nice. would be good content seeing how to square up and grind in the spindexer base too. just sayin'!
The front face is true for use on a grinder. But how hard would it be to do all 4 at the factory? Right. I may finish it out. If I do, I'll film it.
A piece of soft rubber tubing on the part makes a feature that a rod or dowel in the tail stock can catch. It is basically a temporary bore hole that is easily put on or removed. That was a little trick an old timey machinist taught me.
Great idea, thanks!
@@ferrumignis no problem
I have been known to make a small cup my drill chuck holds to catch small parts if I have a bunch. Even small parts get hot.
I've faceted many hundreds of stones , & designed quite a few 'cuts'. . . Try indexing several times with each facet ; roughing in , then medium & fine cut before polishing ! Sometimes it takes several days to cut just ONE design to completion . . . but then , I'm talking about a one of a kind cut . . . with hundreds of facets ;) * I don't think the refractive index of brass is very high , ( regardless of the facet angle) ! Great demo of the spin indexer though , thanks Joe !
Fun stuff ! You COULD 're-machine' any one of those facets , but you'd need to make a pair of dops , then a transfer block ( you could use a pair of 'V' blocks for the transfer . . . to swap ends for cutting / polishing the other facets ) 'nothin to it , like eating lettuce !
Nice project.
Seems to me I see where you could build a spin indexer and even one that could do 1/2 degrees. with the dreaded rotary table a lathe and a good drill press or milling machine.
Hey there Meatball - cool indeed. I used to cut sapphire into stone facets like that but I held one end in hard wax on a stick and lapped it down with diamond. Almost 60 years ago.
Somewhat smaller I imagine.
love your safety tips
Thanks. They are very important.
very cool , thanks for the video and lesson,,
Joe, there is Norwid's poem about Ashes and Diamonds and you are definitely a Diamond
Awesome work Geezer
This geezer still has a few tricks up his sleeve.
Good God! I thought you were cutting brass... all the way until 11:40.
Neat video, thanks again Joe.
Nathan,
Joe has the smaller version of my Clausing Colchester 15.
They are incredible lathes. The clutch is great. They have a clutch in the apron as well. Turning to a stop is easy.
great project
Amazing!
Nice work.
Excellent video, there is not many on spin indexers ,even the instructions that come with one don't always explain how it works, I have 2, with my Phase II the operation was explained better , it is a handy tool if you don't have to split degrees,
pretty cool! that took some imagination.
Genialne, wygląda pieknie, powodzenia kolego
Tom Lipton (Oxtools) has a video series from a couple years ago demonstrating how to adapt various and sundry hole plates for the Phase II spinner.
Pretty cool diamond - thanks.
I have the same indexer and I like it.
I just bought one of those. We just needed a spinner for the surface grinder to relieve endmills and maybe a simple part here and there. It was about $100 so you couldn't beat the price. It's Chinese but to get something better, it would be a lot more than that.
neat project thak you for showing what's possoible
Very Cool !
A modified pin end when spun 45 degrees can give you 1/2 degree directional movement.
Really cool videa. Not many of us have a spindel indexer, I was wondering, if this can be done on the Rotary Table ? If so would you please be kind enough to show it ?
You'd be surprised how inexpensive they are. I ended up winning a used phase II from eBay for $40. It was missing the lock screw and plate pin, but they were super easy to make so it was WELL worth the money. I very often see them for around the same price. Even new import versions can be had for
Interesting and a pleasure to watch Joe TFS. G :)
Just got my own Spindexer! Second time watching this video LKD &SBSCRBLD the first time
Thank you very much. Welcome aboard.
A swivel base on your Kurt vise would’ve been nice for this. You could’ve held on to your spin indexer by the sides of the base. Then you wouldn’t have had to worry about it pulling out of the clamps and 1-2-3’s. Not being critical at all, just my machinist brain thinking.
Great video! I love seeing out of the box things like this being made. There are so many things like this that are just fun to make that you don’t normally get to do in a work setting. 👍🏻
I have one, but it consumes too much vertical space. I just shift the vise when needed.
I will try same one! :D thank u for idea
can you make a cam grove or flutes with that, like the ones on old maschinery or automatic and straightpull weapons
Not with a spin indexer. Maybe a dividing head is a better option.
Nice job.
Very nice!
Diamonds are forever !!!
Great show Sir Joe, new mic I think👏👌
Joe. I have the same exact indexer . How could I use it to mill replacement gears ? Or do you have a video showing that using that indexer. ? Thanks 😊
if your gear teeth divide evenly into 360, you can use an indexer and a form cutter. If not, a dividing head with a proper index plate will be required.
Awsome video joe.. thanks karl from Malta
Greetings from Austin Texas USA. Thanks for stopping by.
@@joepie221 almost every video I saw from you channel.. you thought me alot how you should work and do things the right way... Always appreciate your time to do videos....