Water Pump Slinger made on a Manual Mill -- No CNC
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Just when you thought you needed a CNC mill to make a part that's all curves, think again. Viewers choice and project #3 in the rotary table demonstration series is finally here. Take a Look. The final part doesn't look possible for a manual mill.
The cost of owning a CNC machine is decreasing on a daily basis. As the CNC hobby sector grows it allows for more people to have access to this awesome technology.
Having been a machinist for 26 years now I have run all types of manual and CNC machines. I even have a shop at home with CNC and manual equipment in it. In the next
generation of manufacturing professionals there will be few if any that have expert knowledge of manual equipment. Computers have become such a large part of our lives
that you cannot be a competitive manufacturer without them. That's a shame. The first machine that I got paid to run was a worn out Bridgeport Series I with an old Anilam
DRO. It taught me to understand and appreciate the forces exerted by the cutter. I had to learn how to finesse the tool and machine to get the desired result. That experience
benefits me in so many ways today but unfortunately that experience is likely to die with me. In 100 years no one will appreciate the effort and skill it took us to get to where we
are now. It will be taken for granted in the same way that we take electricity and running water for granted now.
sad but true. wonder if that's a good idea, make some craftsmen website where such experiences are stored for the ages, on computers, hmmm... not that you'd agree to it.
You can't store that knowledge. It's experience, instinct and feel, you can't learn that from reading. Sad but that knowledge is going to die with the last generation of craftsman.
@@thetoecutter13 can set up practicals that teach it, videos, or even small little kits.
I work around young people and I have to say they are for the most part about the most stupid people I have ever seen in my life and it is getting worse by the generation.
There are tons of books and tons of old training videos and these people dont care.
All they care about is the smart phone, energy drinks, hating baby boomers and social media.
You cant make people learn if they dont care.
I am a self taught machinist for the most part and do it for fun and to take my mind off of life's troubles.
Worth Doss I have to agree with you. I'm 37 and probably the last year of the last generation that can work with our hands and takes pride in that work. My parents are baby boomers, they had me a little later in life, they instilled the values their parents (who born during depression and grew during and in the war) instilled in them and I am grateful.
Thank you for sharing these gems of wisdom. Every time I watch one of your videos, I learn a different approach to solve a problem or need.
Mission accomplished. Thanks for watching.
Totally worth the wait. You kick butt Joe!
Great job Joe thanks, fantastic!
Even after all these years, a "free hand" feature is an important part of your skills.
If you get to the Bar Z bash this year, there is a great mill skill challenge setup to test your eye hand coordination. It looks easy, but guaranteed to get your heart racing.
Bar Z bash will be awesome! theres no sight quite like racing hearts of machinists!
Thanks again . . .
As always, Joe, you are a gifted teacher. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You may need that water pump for all that rain. Thanks for the video Joe.
I'm halfway there.
Always love your video's ,so often your set up and fixturing tips and tricks have little gems of wisdom that are invaluable ... it's easy to think of a part in its final form, like a 3inch diameter part should be made from 3 1/4 stock and skimmed to size.But you regularly show how critical to have extra stock to enable good solid fixturing and how spending that bit extra on more material can save you from scrapping a part that's ineffectively held that the machine decides to eat!
Great,clear videos always well presented. Much appreciate what you do Joe.
Ps loved the idea of a cutter maze for training I can really see how that would teach people to control the X,Y and save them making a mistake by rotating the handle in the wrong direction. Again simple but brilliant :)
Beautiful. Thanks and welcome back, we’ve missed you.
Good to have the time to do it. Its been crazy around here.
Daniel Van Der Torre comment just blew me away. Sir Joe" the Mathe involved in this project must of taken hours to prepare, you said cad was a big help but that is no simple task to make a part like that, and yet again you make it look like a child could set about it. Nothing holds you down, your work you so kindly prepare & present to us is without doubt the best on youtube. Stefan Gotteswinter, Robrenz yourself total Grandmasters. its taken me 1 hour to read all the comments people just get you Joe. *****
Thanks for the comment and compliment Rob. This was a fun one. Its the kind of part you absolutely can't get distracted on. I really appreciate everyone that takes the time to leave comments and to all the other fine machinists that have welcomed me into this community.
Joe I will have to watch this one at least a couple of times to figure it out , Nice work !
Try turning those cranks. I was dizzy after this one.
Nice lil project. I can see myself starting to become a better machinist, I was able to guess about 70% of your setup and moves before watching the full vid..thanks again
its that extra 30% that we all need help with, Joe is a Masterclass.
Well done Joe. Nice clear description!
Well done ,and it only took you 32 minutes.Would have took me forever and then i would have gave up.Couldn't even imagine how to start.
I love the witness cut on the fixture plate ..Great Video Joe
I was wondering how many guys would pickup on that.
Impressive and very educational! When I saw this project my first thought was "put a rotary table on a rotary table". (The lower one to cut the curves, the upper one to get into the six positions.) Kind regards Harald
Nicely done Joe! You must have been a real "badass" with an etch-a-sketch as a kid! LOL
I feel like I should be getting credits towards a degree when I watch your videos. Always expanding my capabilities. Thanks Joe!
CNC is great, but seeing how it was done before there was such a thing as a CNC machine existed is really cool. Both take a certain amount of skill to get it right, but doing it manually is a skill all of it's own. Great vid Joe, thanks for making this series, it is very enlightening.
CNC is great if you're making a number of parts... it's basically for mass production.
Suppose a customer comes to you with a print, or a CAD file. He tells you he only wants one, and it's something doable manually. Would you 1. CAD, CAM, and then convert to G code, set up the CNC machine, make a few dry runs to make sure the programs actually work (sometimes the CAM software doesn't translate everything the way you think it should), then make the part, or just set up the mill, then make the part? That is of course assuming you have a CNC which is a pretty substantial investment.
Hi Joe, I have watched this video numerous times and am in awe each time I see it. Your skill is incredible and thank you for sharing.
Thanks for coming back. It was a fun part to make for you guys.
Back at it again with the wealth of knowledge!
Thanks Joe for another great video and it is much more interesting to those of us who can't afford cnc equipment in our home workshops It just goes to show with a bit more intuition just what can be achieved on a manual mill Once again thanks Joe Pete (UK)
Cad/cam ~10 minutes. 5 minutes clamping and indicating. 5 minutes machine time. Much respect to the process, just something I would never want to have to worry about figuring out!
Thank you Joe!
your time, effort and knowledge being shared are very much appreciated amongst the majority of us.
Thanks for watching, and for sparring in the comment line.
Absolutely brilliant ! Great fixturing idea ! You are very clever and very skilled. Thank you
The fact that you wanted to match the drilled surface with the mounting surface is something that get little or no explanation on most you tube videos. The use of GD&T or the use of datums to best maintain tolerances. It might make a great subject for a video! Great video, thanks!
You make it look so easy, but with some care ( a lot of care ) it can be done . I like your air blaster that i will make this week for sure!!! Be well and be safe....
P.S. Thanks again for all your vid's.......
Good to see you again Joe.
That was totally fascinating and super demo to see. :) You should certainly be well pleased with that result.
I like the fixturing choices even more than the actual milling process. Impressive work and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
My, that was very clever. I had to think hard about what was going on. Thanks Joe.
This one you had to concentrate. One slip and BAM. junk.
Hi Joe, I am always amazed at how easy you make it look (it probably is for someone with your knowledge ) but for me being self taught it blows my mind lol anyway just wanted to say Thank you for all your time (time is money as they say) & hard work. I have learned so much from you ( and mrpete as well as others but mainly you two fine men!) and your videos Two Thumbs Up Sir!
Thank you very much. All the great feedback keeps me motivated. You all rock.
This was a pretty damn slick video!!!
For the printer mouse.
Really enjoying this series. Learning so much. Thank you.
Excellent video Joe.
Very impressive!
Very educational project,Joe.Thanks to you I´m allready using my rotary table.
I enjoyed your video immensly. From 1980 - 2000 I worked for a large slurry pump manufacturer in Sydney, Australia. Then 2002 - 2007 I worked for a plastics company. While I assure the slurry pumps where not made of delrin you just put 18+ years work into one video.
This part is certainly not a part the average guy would think to do on a rotary table.
Wow, that's incredible. Until someone tries out a rotary table for even the most basic task, it's hard to imagine how tedious and impressive all these moves are to execute perfectly.
Hey thanks for this (and all your others) upload! I had some time between projects and I modeled it up and made one similar. My vanes end on the centerline rather than go past like yours. Also, mine is out of some acrylic drops I had. Very tricky! Those intermediate points are not trivial, nor is confirming cutter clearance in the CAD model. Took me 2 tries to get a halfway decent result. Thanks again!
Thank you Joe. I just purchased one of your alignment/location tools. I have learned alot from watching your videos and appreciate your effort in teaching and supporting the trade.
Thank you.
Yep, also made wood trials before certainly helped me.
Love your work Joe, thanks.
Joe, you are so cool! Thank you for sharing!!
Joe it's perfect for my Dobel Mobile water pump Cheers. 🙌🔔🔔🔔.
Very interesting video. More info than I could process as you explained it so easily, LOL. I'll probably have to watch it again a couple of times before it all soaks in. I really enjoyed seeing it done on a manual. I've been wanting a mill for the last 20 years or so and finally bought a 1975 Bridgeport with a new DRO about a year ago for $1000. I just hooked up the static convertor box and got it running about two weeks ago. I watched them on E-Bay for at least three years and couldn't see paying $6000 to $7000 for a 1960's 1/2 hp model. I would see the same mill on there sometimes for two years. I'm getting some tooling for it now and should be using it in the next week or so. Thanks Joe for sharing the vid with us. Dan
Great video. Very educational. Your years of experience, and skill, are showing.
Thank you sir. I'm still not sure this is what I want to do when I grow up.
@@joepie221 Never grow up, that's when you grow old!! LOL
Wow I'm impressed big time. Great job. I always love watching Joe.
Thank you for the share, Lance & Patrick.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks Joe, It wasn't as complicated as I expected, as usual, you made it look easy
Another great video! Thanks Joe. Use a magnetic base or make a dovetail block and attach your air line to ram dovetail. Air is always on the tool and doesn't move with the table.
Very impressive. I wonder what kind of mess I could create if I tried it :) That rainstorm was a doozy :)
Wow! When I can afford it I see I must get a DRO. AWESOME JOB.
You can do this on a cross-slide rotary table without doing all the locating holes. It's basically a small mill table built on to the top of a rotary table and that is then mounted on the Bridgeport mill like you would any rotary table. You would use the cross-slide to position the centers of the arcs over the center of the rotary table and then use the Bridgeport's X and/or Y axis to determine the radius to cut. A good cross-slide rotary table can be had cheap now but they used to cost over $5,000 30 years ago. These cross-slides rotarys were precision made and very accurate and weighed close to 1000 lbs. I still have one here that's mounted on a BP Series II special. It does need risers because its about 10' tall plus your vice.
Did I see that ? Did you align the tool above one of the indexing pins before you started each initial cut? THAT'S one of the reasons I really like these videos! I open my eyes and learn every time.
Thanks Joe great content keeping the moves in your head is half the battle
So true. loose focus on this one, and you better just raise the cutter and start over.
Nice work
I recently made something similar with Aluminum but it was a bit easier since it had straight vanes. I did end up using a rotary table for a hub OD that was integrated with the vanes, along with setting the appropriate angle between the vanes. It worked really well.
Better inside during the storm than outside...
Texas rain can be extremely heavy. It shakes my building.
You're the man Joe, thanks so much for the video!
Well worth the wait, great work Joe, thanks👍 . It looks like you did a reality check skim on the fixture to check your tool path, right?
I did.
Really clever work Joe!
Thanks for yet another great video.
Paul
Hey Joe.
Great video, I've watched it a few times. I'll be using this new knowledge in a project and it will make life much easier. THANKS!
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you for this valuable lesson.
Great explanation of the job. Glad to see you back.
Its the calm between 2 storms. I figured I'd shoot a few topics. Thanks for watching.
That blew my mind! Somebody gave this thumbs down? Seriously??? 🤦🏻♂️
must of been a sowing machinist.
Thanks Joe!
Neat as a weevil!
Gday Joe, I found this very interesting to watch, it is amazing what you can do me a manual machine, that rain storm sounds like it dumps a lot of rain in a short time, thank you for showing how this was made and please keep them coming, all the best Matty 🇦🇺
Great video! Always look forward to seeing your wisdom at work very impressive to say the least.
learn somthing new every tim i watch
“IF YOUR GOING TO MAKE A MISTAKE”😳😳😳....🤬🤬🤬...last night as I was grinding (finishing) the V on a V block I fed the down feed wheel (😴😴😴) thinking I fed the crossslide for a .018 edge damage to a near finished part....lot more grinding to do now, glad there is no set tolerance/measurement ....your comment uplifted my spirits 😍....enjoyed the video/discussion/demonstration along with placing an order for your centering tool. ATB
Hi Chuck. Its always good to get a comment from you. The day we stop making mistakes, someone better check our pulse. Without realizing it, as a machinist we constantly have to do 9 things at once. I hate screwing up. It bothers me for weeks. I saw your order this morning. Thank you. I'll make sure it ships today. You're going to like the ease of setup with this tool. So fast its almost simple. Good luck with your battle my friend.
Ha! I was doing that a little too frequently. On a BP it's too easy to grab the knee crank handle instead of the Y axis if you aren't looking. Now I turn the knee handle backwards when I'm done with it. You learn when you make a mistake, you cease learning when you do it to perfection. That's a cheesy aphorism/excuse, but it works for me.
Mad skill, as the kids would say. Very impressive!
Great job! Thanks
Easy enough! I probably would have just double stacked and offset rotary tables to do the same thing as your fixture plate:-)
This video was another great learning opportunity for me as all your videos are. 🤙
Thank you for sharing of your extensive experience and knowledge, awesome videos
Very nice job on that impeller part. That water pump slinger threw me there for a moment. Who says ya have to have a CNC to do something like this?
Thanks for the demonstration Joe.
I'm going to try this using my Jig Grinder and setting stops on the rotation.
you're a wonderful teacher Joe. enjoyed that
Always good to get a comment from you. Thanks for stopping by.
absolutely amazing
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
How do I get one of the alignment tools for my largest 1/2” Collett
Awesome my brain is twisted have to watch it a few more times.
this is were you go if you don't think it can be done .
I once had a supervisor that soon realized if he told me it couldn't be done, I was like a pitbull on a chain. He knew how to inspire me. Thank you for the comment. I take that as a high compliment.
it is I tend to think out side the box too .
Very smart Joe! Thanks for the video!
OMG Joe, that's amazing! It's so cool to see how a Pro goes about solving a machining challenge. You knocked it out of the park yet once again. Thank you for taking the time and effort necessary to produce these wonderful videos to share just a little bit of your knowledge.
I am very proud to own my Advanced Innovations Alignment / Location Tool! I bought it when I first saw it in one of your previous videos. What a beautiful tool!
See you at the Bash!
Hey Guy. Good to get a comment from you. This was a fun one. Glad you like your tool. It will save you many headaches. I am actually flying Southwest out of AZ on the Friday before the bash. You driving that one? Either way, see ya there.
Great thought provoking content as usual. Best machinist channel on RUclips
Thank you very much.
Awesome as always buddy, hope your not getting flooded by the rain
Sounds like a Texas rain storm that's about to become a Texas flood.
In a heartbeat. That happens a lot around here.
This is one of those parts where you are really appreciative if you do have CNC mill and CAM software. In fact between the costs of accessories like a rotary table, dividing head, tooling etc... the CNC mill will pay for itself if you have a viable business.
Very clever thinking
props. this is next level manual machining. u a god xD
Thanks. Thats not beginner material for sure.
Very helpful in technique you demonstrated - thanks.
My god. If Anything screams make me a CNC this is it. Very impressed on a manual mill.
Years back, if someone asked me to do this on a manual mill, I would have laughed and walked away. Thanks for the comment.
Which is fine if you have space, money and time to learn G-code or CAD
Very cool. Nice job Joe. I enjoyed that
It was a fun one to shoot. Just don't loose your concentration on a part like this.
Sounds like someone whispering two words on 5 mins 52 seconds.Other than that I'm loving your videos pal,learning so many tricks from you that I have used at work.You're a fantastic Engineer.The best pioneers are those who can think outside the box like yourself,keep up the awesome work.Much respect from Leeds,home of the mighty whites (Leeds United) LOL! That's in the U.K.
First time I've ever seen an impeller with circular veins
Google it. They come in a variety of styles.
nicely done joe. you do a lot of production, dont you? your fixtures are elegant. poppy's workshop says HI
I'm a big fan of a good fixture.
Thanks Joe, another great video.
Hey Joe, Great, as always!
Noticed on the initial cad illustration that the core of the spinner was hollow(Without Post) while your finished part had a connected Post in the center of the spinner... mods & changes, I guess.
Outstanding Sir! I've been waiting for this one and you don't disappoint.
Great work Joe!