For anyone interested the Bullhorn bars are actually the most aero out of all of them. For the most aero position, you should try to have your forearm parallel to the wind and your head tucked in. This Position is far more aero than the drops on the drop bars. You can imitate it in the hoods of the drop bars, but that is much less safe and comfortable.
Hi, just bought my first fixie. It's a urban track. Cool bike cheap parts. So I already bought some bullhorns, brakes and peddles. Surprisingly the seat doesn't bother me at all. I guess we'll see with a little more time. That was going to be my first purchase.
If you include the "corner" position on the drop bars, I would say grabbing the end of a straight bar counts as well, giving the wrists a more comfortable position. Really not a good grip when the sh*t hits the fan, but on an open road a quite nice position to cruise around.
first off zack. why no love for the mustache bars? there a great alternative to drop bars with just as many hand holds. also would my bike have to be a fixed gear to submit it to fixie points? i only have a touring bike right now.
Switched from risers on my old single speed (got stolen) to drop bars on my new cross bike. I'm still getting used to it, but the versatility is awesome.
Hey zach. Right now I ride some converted bullhorns (cut from drops) with inner tubes as the bar tape. I love it so much that I have just enough hand positions to stay comfy on my regular 30ish mile rides and it's nice and light! I like them so much that I am going to attempt making my own out of carbon fiber.
That's pretty good advice about the boney protrution measurements. I've never been told that by anyone, not even online tech support when I ordered new handlebars. The larger Stem Clamps I'm assuming are probably for Carbon and Alloy type handlebars as they have to have larger diameter tubes to have the same or better strength and rigidity as steel.
I built my own, cutting down a BMX straight bar and putting side bars like a bullhorn, a little inset so I could mount shifters and brakes in a mountain position. I like it because it gives me the leverage, from a BMX background, to perform what I want to coin as urban rally. I'll race the train over the bridge and jump 25 stairs with a backflip for fun as I speed through downtown to get a 40oz and return sheet music to the library.
Nitto Noodle 177 bars in the 48cm size. I have NEVER ridden with better bars, the extra width is exactly what I needed. I no longer have problems with aches and pains in hands / wrists / arms / shoulders
Love my nitto moustache bars. My 86 Schwinn is heavy as is but with my added Wald double rear cage it handles like a truck. Drop bars where not giving me the turning radius I needed and flats where not comfortable. Moustache bars just gave me the turning and comfort I needed, and they look awesome!
great video but there are a couple points I'd like to add: firstly I think that with any change of handlebars a change of stem will probably benefit and second I'm very surprised you didn't mention upright bars! I love them and while they don't offer many hand positions (although some kind of do) they're really underrated!! great video as always :)
Its when he said when you're able to breathe better. I took a regular breath while sittin on my couch getting ready laundry I notice how much more air i have now vs when I'm out and about on my bike with drop bars
I plan on installing my bullhorn handlebars sort of at like a 45 degree angle. I'm mostly just buying them because I've start experiencing hand discomfort and numbness using a regular bar and thought a more neutral grip would help.
I just put bull horns on a few months back to replace the flat bar that was originally there. Note: I cut those down to a much narrower width which was great in traffic but horrible on climbs which is about half of my commute (round trip) The bulls extended my reach to more closely match the measurements I need. I put TT style break levers on bc my knees can't withstand hard breaking.
Carbon compact drops are the bomb! Yes wider is better breathing. Man, do I have a collection of stems from over time. Also, if you ride much aero bars are amazing!
I ride bull horns with a long stem and I really like it. I live by laguna beach (Dana point) and there are tons of hills, they help with climbing a lot .
Wrist pain ISNT caused by risers. Wrist pain is caused by bad bike fit, probably stem too long, resulting in you leaning over your bars too much and putting too much weight on your hands. You can get wrist pain on risers, flats, bullhorns, drops, anything.
Jake Swift Totally Agree. I can ride all day long with my risers no problem. With drops I’m pretty miserable after about 10 miles. I don’t need a bunch of hand positions. One comfortable position is enough for me.
My freewheel is a riser. Great for everything except climbing. My roadie has ergo drops from ritchey... Tho you made compact sound pretty nice... Time to go shopping!!
One plus to the bullhorn - I feel that I have a better control over my fg than with a riser bar, with a bullhorn I can skip better, and because I'm 190cm I need the long place :) And I hurt my knee with a drop bar once, and I didn't use the lower position.
I'm using bullhorns, and I'm finding some drop bars to be aerodynamic; wish I could purchase a set of TT/U bars Drops are the most comfortable out of all I tried, but it looks a bit weird on my bike. Dunno why
Hey Zach I'm a starter fixed gear rider in Amsterdam so the bike takes some serious weather damage and also I'm not always riding asphalt streets. Any recommendations for day to day commute in a city like this with a fixed gear. Also maybe a recommendation for the next bike to buy ;)
I have two bikes, one with compact drop and one with ergo drop. I like them both for different reasons--compact drop is definitely ideal and gives you a lot of good options for positioning. The bike with the ergo drop bar has a relaxed/endurance geometry (it was my first bike and I didn't understand geometry), so there was too much head tube stack for me to get as low as I wanted to go. So I find the deeper drop got me as low as I wanted to be on the front end and the "flat curve" section makes it more comfortable to stay in the drops.
hi zach, I'm looking at getting a single speed bike with a freewheel. apart from the freehub and brakes, everything else you talk of should be the same right??
Yo zach, you neglected to mention 2017's hottest new handlebar trend that usurps 2016's 700+mm mountain riser trend - townie bars! Although I haven't jumped on it, I bet I will be pressured to eventually. Also I plan on submitting my whip to you for critique. Woo!
Hey, random question, but are you a John Green fan?? I get some John Green vibes from your voice and cadence in parts of this video lol. In the best way possible.
I love love love my bmx handlebars and gooseneck on my mtb. I tried other flatbars with different angles, but I feel bmx look very good and ride awesome. I ride all day like I could when I was a kid. Looks like a bmx on steroids. They look very aggressive especially riding crazy FAST! I don't feel the jolting from the uneven pavement on my hands, wrist and shoulders. All of that is on my suspension seat post, cushioned padded seats and standard suspension front forks and 2 inch tires, Feels like a soft tail frame. My hands up to my shoulders are relaxed and so is my rear end. Aero dynamics? I can reach well beyond 20mph with my 500w bafang motor w peddle assist. It's pure peddle assist by choice. Even without the motor, I feel it's a big upgrade over a flatbar with my upright position. My legs have more weight to push the pedals. Making my bike feel lighter. I Love all my bmx-mtb bikes, motorized or not!
If I buy a riser bar do I have to put on you gear shifters? Because my current bar has dropped bars with hoods but I'm thinking about putting a riser. So do I need to buy new gear shifters?
Love your vids, but you should tighten up your cloth tape game. Perhaps consider shellacking the tape once on to provide a protective coating from dirt, as well as providing a waterproof barrier to prolong the life of the tape and prevent rot. You would get some real vintage points for the shellac!
Just bought myself a State Delfin and a set of drops like my old days as a roadie. Bolted them on, took them for a short spin, and immediately regretted getting them. Just too low for me. Back to the stock risers for now.
What about those who want to ride UPRIGHT using RISERS with GRIP ENDS, like the Ergon GP5? Is there a bar end with an L-shape similar in length to the lower portion of the DROP -BAR?
The drop is not the most aero position while you are seated. You expose more arm to the wind. Most aero while in the seat fighting head winds are the hoods. Lower arm is in almost horizontal and offers no plane to the wind. The drops are almost only useful as soon as you get up on the bike and want to throw some serious watts out while also not expose your upper body to the wind. ...the drops feel faster than they actually are. ;-)
The less than $20 Easton Monkey bars in the video on eBay are now $50 USD and for me, 25-35 USD to ship from the UK. Though that doesn't sound as bad as the "reality" in my Australian currency, where all up it's 70 + 35-50 = $105-120
I have a cannondale caad 10 speed and I wanted to know if I can put a basket in the front and back??please answering me back I want to do ubereats soon
What happened to porteur/touring/moustache bars! Some of us ride porteur/townie geared bikes and notnjust "fixies" or fixed geared street bikes, tarck bikes, whatever you want to call them. I would like to see you cover more differenct kinds of bikes! I'll try and send a photo of my bike when I get a chance! (:
I ride with wide risers and some compact drop I could never stick to some bars I'm always switch between them. one week I'll ride my risers but the next get my drops 😂😂 it's to hard to stick to one bar for me
I've never used a drop bar or a bullhorn bar, because I ride a mountain bike, and because my mom dont allow me to use the money I earned from work... The only thing I've done to my godamn bike is upgrade to hydraulic disk brakes and wheels... For $200... The rest of my $1600 is just sitting in my bank wondering how's life outside...
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I have a Schwinn Dual Sport that I brought from Walmart for like $250. The more I learn about bicycles, the more I hate my bike.
Sakatoki91 if it gets the job done, it's okay.
See you later space cowboy.
Ride it into the ground, then upgrade.
I've found nice looking bikes for that price on Craigslist.
Gotta love that Schwinnedischwinnmofo!
Tell us about that basket. Looks clean and efficient.
Don't tell us!
For anyone interested the Bullhorn bars are actually the most aero out of all of them. For the most aero position, you should try to have your forearm parallel to the wind and your head tucked in. This Position is far more aero than the drops on the drop bars. You can imitate it in the hoods of the drop bars, but that is much less safe and comfortable.
Did you have any pictures? I don't understand what you're saying since english isnt my first language
I find the lack of Tupperware organization on that shelf in many of these videos to be quite stressful.
Pretty organized according to my standards
The lids are on the tupperwares, what more do you want?
Make a video on bar tape , review a different brands , and materials made from , and their price points / grips
Jose Gonzalez Ooh yeah! And cover wet weather, and gloves vs gloveless when wet too. Thanks Zach! All the way from New Zealand (:
Jaybie Dayy No no, I want to watch Zach make a video on bar tape.
he is running the worst possible grip tape. hell its just white cloth.
Hi, just bought my first fixie. It's a urban track. Cool bike cheap parts. So I already bought some bullhorns, brakes and peddles. Surprisingly the seat doesn't bother me at all. I guess we'll see with a little more time. That was going to be my first purchase.
If you include the "corner" position on the drop bars, I would say grabbing the end of a straight bar counts as well, giving the wrists a more comfortable position. Really not a good grip when the sh*t hits the fan, but on an open road a quite nice position to cruise around.
first off zack. why no love for the mustache bars? there a great alternative to drop bars with just as many hand holds. also would my bike have to be a fixed gear to submit it to fixie points? i only have a touring bike right now.
Switched from risers on my old single speed (got stolen) to drop bars on my new cross bike. I'm still getting used to it, but the versatility is awesome.
+1 for 'comfortability'
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i'm riding drops right now but wide risers are probably my favorite
Why do I watch these I’m not a beginner. Been rising over 7 years but I still find these entertaining.
Hey zach. Right now I ride some converted bullhorns (cut from drops) with inner tubes as the bar tape. I love it so much that I have just enough hand positions to stay comfy on my regular 30ish mile rides and it's nice and light! I like them so much that I am going to attempt making my own out of carbon fiber.
Very impressive,! Good luck.
That's pretty good advice about the boney protrution measurements. I've never been told that by anyone, not even online tech support when I ordered new handlebars. The larger Stem Clamps I'm assuming are probably for Carbon and Alloy type handlebars as they have to have larger diameter tubes to have the same or better strength and rigidity as steel.
Excellent and straight forward information.
I built my own, cutting down a BMX straight bar and putting side bars like a bullhorn, a little inset so I could mount shifters and brakes in a mountain position. I like it because it gives me the leverage, from a BMX background, to perform what I want to coin as urban rally. I'll race the train over the bridge and jump 25 stairs with a backflip for fun as I speed through downtown to get a 40oz and return sheet music to the library.
Nitto Noodle 177 bars in the 48cm size. I have NEVER ridden with better bars, the extra width is exactly what I needed. I no longer have problems with aches and pains in hands / wrists / arms / shoulders
Hi Zach, I have track bars. They match up with my shoulders, and I enjoy climbing in da drops. Yo, bout them fixie points?
Love my nitto moustache bars. My 86 Schwinn is heavy as is but with my added Wald double rear cage it handles like a truck. Drop bars where not giving me the turning radius I needed and flats where not comfortable. Moustache bars just gave me the turning and comfort I needed, and they look awesome!
Moustache bars are the shit. Love ‘em.
@@banjomechanic right! Just about to throw them on my wabi since my Schwinn is no longer in service...rip
great video but there are a couple points I'd like to add:
firstly I think that with any change of handlebars a change of stem will probably benefit
and second I'm very surprised you didn't mention upright bars! I love them and while they don't offer many hand positions (although some kind of do) they're really underrated!!
great video as always :)
Its when he said when you're able to breathe better. I took a regular breath while sittin on my couch getting ready laundry I notice how much more air i have now vs when I'm out and about on my bike with drop bars
I plan on installing my bullhorn handlebars sort of at like a 45 degree angle. I'm mostly just buying them because I've start experiencing hand discomfort and numbness using a regular bar and thought a more neutral grip would help.
Dude thankyou sooo much i was looking for some answers and i got them just from you i culden’t find my answers all over the internet
Thankyou 😄
I just put bull horns on a few months back to replace the flat bar that was originally there. Note: I cut those down to a much narrower width which was great in traffic but horrible on climbs which is about half of my commute (round trip)
The bulls extended my reach to more closely match the measurements I need. I put TT style break levers on bc my knees can't withstand hard breaking.
zach you need to figure your bar tape man, and cinelli giro d'italia bars are a classic for a reason there awesome
I'm about to Start my first fix gear build. I've been planning for months to get it right.
Great video!!
Do you know the name of those brakes? They look sick! (Looking for good looking breaks for my fixed gear atm)
As always, just a great informative piece. I was wondering about Trekking bars or Butterfly bars with even more hand positions to choose from.
Carbon compact drops are the bomb! Yes wider is better breathing. Man, do I have a collection of stems from over time. Also, if you ride much aero bars are amazing!
I ride bull horns with a long stem and I really like it. I live by laguna beach (Dana point) and there are tons of hills, they help with climbing a lot .
I am liking the idea of the Surly Moloko, could pair well with that sweet All-City.
Zach, I've been binge watching your videos. But... Why not geared bikes?
Wrist pain ISNT caused by risers.
Wrist pain is caused by bad bike fit, probably stem too long, resulting in you leaning over your bars too much and putting too much weight on your hands.
You can get wrist pain on risers, flats, bullhorns, drops, anything.
Jake Swift Totally Agree. I can ride all day long with my risers no problem. With drops I’m pretty miserable after about 10 miles. I don’t need a bunch of hand positions. One comfortable position is enough for me.
My personal favorite: the drop bar flipped upside down.
what.
Bum bars lol. Good for wheelies.
Menace
The barfly style😜
Swept back (30 deg) and bolt-on aero bars spaced shoulder width apart for headwinds and 15+ mph.
My freewheel is a riser. Great for everything except climbing. My roadie has ergo drops from ritchey... Tho you made compact sound pretty nice... Time to go shopping!!
One plus to the bullhorn - I feel that I have a better control over my fg than with a riser bar, with a bullhorn I can skip better, and because I'm 190cm I need the long place :) And I hurt my knee with a drop bar once, and I didn't use the lower position.
I'm using bullhorns, and I'm finding some drop bars to be aerodynamic; wish I could purchase a set of TT/U bars
Drops are the most comfortable out of all I tried, but it looks a bit weird on my bike. Dunno why
Hey Zach I'm a starter fixed gear rider in Amsterdam so the bike takes some serious weather damage and also I'm not always riding asphalt streets. Any recommendations for day to day commute in a city like this with a fixed gear. Also maybe a recommendation for the next bike to buy ;)
I have two bikes, one with compact drop and one with ergo drop. I like them both for different reasons--compact drop is definitely ideal and gives you a lot of good options for positioning. The bike with the ergo drop bar has a relaxed/endurance geometry (it was my first bike and I didn't understand geometry), so there was too much head tube stack for me to get as low as I wanted to go. So I find the deeper drop got me as low as I wanted to be on the front end and the "flat curve" section makes it more comfortable to stay in the drops.
Great video yet again! Can you start reviewing messenger bags? Just a thought! Cheers from the Philippines!
Just use a backpack
Get a Bagaboo or Trashbag (and yes, the company is called trashbags)
I ride an origin8 flatbar with some compact barends. It's like bullhorns but without the ridiculous reach.
hi zach, I'm looking at getting a single speed bike with a freewheel. apart from the freehub and brakes, everything else you talk of should be the same right??
The looping string technique is so big brain time moment. How did I not think of it... lol
I see that you wrap your handlebars (as everyone seems to do)...what do you wrap them with? Is that just for comfort?
Yo zach, you neglected to mention 2017's hottest new handlebar trend that usurps 2016's 700+mm mountain riser trend - townie bars! Although I haven't jumped on it, I bet I will be pressured to eventually.
Also I plan on submitting my whip to you for critique. Woo!
Hey, random question, but are you a John Green fan?? I get some John Green vibes from your voice and cadence in parts of this video lol. In the best way possible.
I have shimano ultegra clipless pedals (came with the bike). Would Odyssey twisted fit? How do I find pedals like that would?
Fantastic video. Thank you very much for the information!
I wonder why you didn't talk about the option of using a combo of risers/flat bar and bar ends.
I'm using bullhorns with bar-end brake leavers.
I love love love my bmx handlebars and gooseneck on my mtb. I tried other flatbars with different angles, but I feel bmx look very good and ride awesome. I ride all day like I could when I was a kid. Looks like a bmx on steroids. They look very aggressive especially riding crazy FAST! I don't feel the jolting from the uneven pavement on my hands, wrist and shoulders. All of that is on my suspension seat post, cushioned padded seats and standard suspension front forks and 2 inch tires, Feels like a soft tail frame. My hands up to my shoulders are relaxed and so is my rear end. Aero dynamics? I can reach well beyond 20mph with my 500w bafang motor w peddle assist. It's pure peddle assist by choice. Even without the motor, I feel it's a big upgrade over a flatbar with my upright position. My legs have more weight to push the pedals. Making my bike feel lighter. I Love all my bmx-mtb bikes, motorized or not!
Nice video and nice channel. could you make a video with the best under budget gravel bikes ?
i ride a Salsa Bell Lap. the added flair is nice on a drop.
I really enjoy your videos, keep it up. You just made a subscriber. BTW could you make a vid on the Aventón Mataro??? Greetings from Berlin!!!!
yuedatte komm erstmal nach dessau, dann weißt du was ne große stadt ist 🤘
***** niiice
yuedatte I bought the cordoba on Zach's recommendation. It's really great bike.
Zach Gallardo looking forward to this!!
Sam Tijerina can't decide between the Córdoba and the Mataro.
Nice Video👍(as always)
I Ride the dropbars you recvomendet and I Really like them.
P.S.: Did you receive my e-mail? (white raleigh frame)
Deda crononeros low pros with grippy DSP 2.5 lizard skins bar tape is a great combo!
If I buy a riser bar do I have to put on you gear shifters? Because my current bar has dropped bars with hoods but I'm thinking about putting a riser. So do I need to buy new gear shifters?
Dang, I thought you were going to get into butterfly, aerobars, H-Bars, and hornbars too. The different touring types
I put SE racing bars and stem on my retrpspec single gear...im luving it!
Love your vids, but you should tighten up your cloth tape game. Perhaps consider shellacking the tape once on to provide a protective coating from dirt, as well as providing a waterproof barrier to prolong the life of the tape and prevent rot. You would get some real vintage points for the shellac!
No love for swept back bars. Would love to hear more! Though I imagine you have another video on the topic ha
Type of front rack and basket? Pros and Cons of front rack/basket vs. rear with panniers? Thanks!
Just bought myself a State Delfin and a set of drops like my old days as a roadie. Bolted them on, took them for a short spin, and immediately regretted getting them. Just too low for me. Back to the stock risers for now.
Simple. Riser "flat bar" with "bar ends" INSIDE the grips. You get drop bar position with the control of the flat bar.
What about those who want to ride UPRIGHT using RISERS with GRIP ENDS, like the Ergon GP5? Is there a bar end with an L-shape similar in length to the lower portion of the DROP -BAR?
I ride 42cm FSA Omega Compact drop bars
Brandon Owen same😂
What was the bike you used for the riser bars
The drop is not the most aero position while you are seated. You expose more arm to the wind. Most aero while in the seat fighting head winds are the hoods. Lower arm is in almost horizontal and offers no plane to the wind. The drops are almost only useful as soon as you get up on the bike and want to throw some serious watts out while also not expose your upper body to the wind. ...the drops feel faster than they actually are. ;-)
Nice cut Zach
True ...true and true Great job brotha !!
@zac gallardo where di you get the front basket from?
Pizza hut
The less than $20 Easton Monkey bars in the video on eBay are now $50 USD and for me, 25-35 USD to ship from the UK.
Though that doesn't sound as bad as the "reality" in my Australian currency, where all up it's 70 + 35-50 = $105-120
In terms of choosing width, it’s ‘err’ on the side of wider bars, not ‘error’ on the side of wide bars…🤘
hey zach what are your thoughts on motorized bicycles?
An I get drop bars on my first bike, in middle age, or should I go flat bar
hey Zach I was wondering if I could get your opinion on the kilo TT pro vs the kilo WT?
I have a cannondale caad 10 speed and I wanted to know if I can put a basket in the front and back??please answering me back I want to do ubereats soon
Wide riser bars 700mm when riding around / standard drop bars when trying hard
Clear solid bruh
What about cruiser bars? So much comfort.
bullhorn or dropbar? brands and price
Risers and two piece are best for freestylin
have a pro plt combo compact dropbar . pro make realy good stuffs . versatiles , beautifull , stiff and affordables
Great video! Thank you for all the info you provide!
Hey Zach! How do you clean your steel-framed All-City bike?
Vince Lacuarin he's got a video for it.
wasfun22 Really? Thanks bruv!!
wasfun22 I checked it and it's about cleaning only the drivetrain
What kind of bike was used for the riser example?
What is your front basket make / model? Looks clean af
It's a Wald 137 zip tied to a Nitto M12 front rack
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Yo. What basket? For my dog? Please help
What happened to porteur/touring/moustache bars! Some of us ride porteur/townie geared bikes and notnjust "fixies" or fixed geared street bikes, tarck bikes, whatever you want to call them. I would like to see you cover more differenct kinds of bikes! I'll try and send a photo of my bike when I get a chance! (:
Josh Chacón it's a fixed gear channel be smart and find a different channel
TrevorCanToo *Bike channel
where is the email link? Also I ride Orion drop bars with red synthetic leather grip tape. I got them for 18 bucks great buy!
:Excellent, excellent vid. Highly specific and detailed. Very informative, very good. Thanks.
Drops are common on Road Bikes though
I ride with wide risers and some compact drop I could never stick to some bars I'm always switch between them. one week I'll ride my risers but the next get my drops 😂😂 it's to hard to stick to one bar for me
I drink at all de bars..🚲..
Is that an aero shopping basket too?
Is the diameter of the tubing just preference?
I have a question do you guys think a zf prime for 170 is to good to be true?
I've never used a drop bar or a bullhorn bar, because I ride a mountain bike, and because my mom dont allow me to use the money I earned from work... The only thing I've done to my godamn bike is upgrade to hydraulic disk brakes and wheels... For $200... The rest of my $1600 is just sitting in my bank wondering how's life outside...
Awesome video man! Keep it up