F150 - Rear Pinion Bearing From Hell - Part I
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- A classic story of when a simple pinion bearing change turns into an all day ordeal. Originally this was going to be one video but when I was putting it together it was way longer than I thought so I decided to split it up for you folks. Now let my misery be your entertainment.
-Enjoy!
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Just finished part one where we watch Eric go Medieval on some Meat & Potatoes with your classic sledge hammer.. Part 2 better deliver the 'Nuts' or I'm canceling my subscription to Discovery channel Bronze Age.
At 4:20 when my Dana 35 started growling and going out, it would blow a little bit of fluid constantly out of the vent tube. And that sir is where that fluid is coming from UC on that rear end I'm sure. They seem to create foam when they get the gap between the gear teeth. and feel the fluid with air bubbles.
Awesome, well you answered my first question from before about the silver on the bottom of the pig. Fantastic how you cleaned up everything to check out the rest of the surfaces and bearing s
“girls” watch this too, ya know!
I was thinking torch early on and holly molly! I'm pretty sure that one would have taken me days if I could have gotten it apart at all. Good job as always!
The scariest part of any difficult job is the point when you think you can't move forward but it's impossible to go back.
Just reading this gave me chills.
I had a similar moment trying to fix an electronic clutch actuator on a dps6 transmission. Simple job turned into "well, guess I have to drop the transmission now"
❤ "needs" must.
That's when junkyards are a blessing.
Sounds like the definition of marriage
I just retired after 40 yrs. as a truck mechanic! Sold all my "heavy" tools , now the hardest part of my day is pausing my SMA video to get another soda out of the fridge!! Cant wait till part 2!
Congrats my dude
Me too brother. Isn’t is amazing after we retire we watch people working.
10 - 4 here sir .
Lucky duck.. I love my fleet of trucks and equipment. You just sent me into daydream mode.
With my ladysoda in hand after a long day, chuckling at Mr. O's awesome comments.
Comic relief in an unforgiving occupation
@@mayhew75 ladysoda? The hops or the grapes my good lady?
Don’t worry Eric. I will go out in the shop to do what should be a 1 hour job, and it winds up costing me 8 hours and 6 trips to the parts store.
don't forget about needing 3 bandaids by the time you are done. fun times
It's a good way to increase your tool collection though.
I had to do three trips to the store just to get right sized tool to remove an oil filter from our king old Corolla. Now I have seven different kinds of filter removal tools... 😎🤣
Bandaids? You mean electrical tape and shop towels?
An diesel injector job i just did took 2 weaks instead of one day that i originally planed. Tried every thing i could think to remove all 4 injectors, heated the engine for a couple of hours then used all the injector loosening sprays that i could find and still noting. after 3 days of soaking the injectors in the spray i tried to use manual and pneumatic injector extractors and still nothing. After that used a 20 ton injector press and the injector broke in half. Had to change the engine with used one and do the job for almost free cause the costumer said that i didn't worn him that something like that could happen:)
We all been there 😂
"Why does every job in my life turn in to a four hour ordeal?"
Glad to hear even a pro like yourself says that! I have noon to four marked out today to rotate the tires on my wife's SUV.
As bad as I felt for you, I couldn't help but laugh when you walked into the axle. Just the cherry on top of the shit sundae. I did something similar to myself just the other day 😂
😂
"Just the cherry on top of the shit sundae"... that's going to be my new response to everything that doesn't go as planned. Thanks!
@@marksimonds13 I already used it once today haha
I know you must have bleeped out hundreds of ill feelings, because I was saying them just watching!!😂🤣
@@SouthMainAuto And that's why we pull the axles all the way out and set them out of the way. Couldn't you have heated that inner glowing red and knocked it out?
21:04 Eric O wiping off the handle of a screwdriver using the 'classic reach-around' technique, while casually mentioning a colonoscopy: Priceless! Oh, you are such a sneaky man...
Awesome! When Eric brings out the fire and the big hammers, you know you're in for a good show!
that's all i know!
He has a LOT of trust on his car lift....
Those lifts are well maintained.
Yeee yee
I wish I was that good with a torch! Done a few rear ends, never saw a bearing stuck like that. Did it spin due to lack of lube and weld itself to the pinion?
My F150 had a similar problem, bought a rear end from a junkyard and swapped it out. After watching this, I'm glad I did.
Quality is job 1. Am I right?
@@mattbrown5511 I have no doubt that SMAR will do an excellent repair but I paid $1000 for the rear end and installation for a 2001 F150 with 260,000 miles on it and the read end is going strong at 320,000. I wouldn't want to see the repair bill for all the aggravation that SMAR is going through.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I was poking fun at the old Ford advertising motto. I hold zero brand loyalty. I'll drive anything as long as it holds together. And Eric is a persistent dude. Whether one pays for labor or for parts, it gets expensive. Be well friend.
I did the same thing on my 1994 f-150.
Oh boy, I thought I was the only one who has this kind of terrible luck 😅
I knew it was going to be a good one when I saw that it was almost an hour long AND labeled "Part 1"!
Eric's new motto " Have torch will travel"
Best line of the day "just your average DIY job, can do it in your driveway "😅
The jobs that turn into 4 hours for you probably turn into "career decision days" for many. Fascinating.
For real 😅
That last think where the bearing breaks loose is one of the most satisfying things ever.
When you see a bearing removal video broken down into multiple parts you know there's gonna be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Spent 11 years in a welding shop. I know exactly how hard that torch job was. Well done Mr O.
More years ago than I care to remember, occasionally I'd use an oxy-torch (we'd call it a "gas-axe") to cut off some rusted bolts and that. Brute force and not much skill. But I was most impressed with Eric O's use of oxy cutting torch. I reckon he could almost do watch repairs with that torch of his !
This is a good representation of how almost every job I do goes...
I’m amazed that Big Nasty didn’t get in on some of that action there with Vic! Man that thing looks like it was an absolute PITA! Good job sir!
My Father was great with a torch too, he could split a bearing with the best of them. Good job Eric!!
Man that bearing certainly was a demon from hell, should have taken a page out of Andrew Camarata’s playbook and used an excavator to push it out 😂
Thanks Eric for showing us the real struggle of this rear end job. Alot of yt might have cut that part out. This is why I keep watching your channel to see the real auto work and your impromtue comentary that goes alongwith the work. I always learn something from you. Thanks for filming this and working around the camera.
Yep, this shows what it’s really like to work on this stuff. Helps put into prospective what can really happen. It helps when your a novice and haven’t done it or experienced any issues doing it before. Keeps you from loosing all hope when it goes sideways.
54 years as an auto tech/mechanic and I’ve never had one that tough to get apart, thank god. Excellent video Eric, this is real world stuff.
Saw a person at a trade show asking the Knipex rep how it's pronounced, they said use the "K", it's German. Your initial pronunciation was spot on.
I think I saw the same video. Did the gal pick up her iPad and kinda hide behind it?
@@dans_Learning_Curve Yep!
While I agree that the K is pronounced, the correct pronunciation is K NEE Pex. That's the German pronunciation and since it is a German company this is the pronunciation that I use. Similarly, I pronounce the name Ikea as ee kay ah and not eye kee uh as Ikea is a Swedish company and that is the way it is pronounced there. Naturally, people can pronounce the words any way they like as we are in America and not in Germany or Sweden. I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.
K is silent as in I know.
@@jo300hn You missed the fact that it was a knipex representative at the trade show, so you are absolutely, positively wrong.
Eric O. muttering to himself as the scene fades to black. LMAO.
any time you see him reaching for that much PPE, something serious is about to happen.
How much would it have cost to just get a salvage yard rear axle and replace the whole thing? I don't think many mechanics would have the skill with a torch or the patience to get that pinion out. Admiration Galore!
Probably more when you factor in labour because how long it'll take to drop the "old" axle to put the "newer" one in. Think of how many bolts could be completely rusted tight when one tries to remove an entire axle assembly in the rust belt. Replacing the axle is definitely not the easier or cheaper job. I'm no mechanic, But I would bet it's far more expensive. Providing you can even find a better used one that's not already pulled. Obviously it'd be easier to just replace the Diff. But there's no real guarantee that those bearings will last tens of thousands of miles. Customer could be right back with the same problem 10k miles later on.
@@jonnywilson9117 That's when you let your customer decide. It's their money after all.
Difference between a mechanic and parts changer
You can do it Eric, but 99% of us certainly can not. What a struggle! Am in awe at your skill & knowlage.
I can...
There is no such thing as a silent K , know what I mean???
Can't not say I've missed the .5 second window a few times, but still a pure joy to see the work with the axe. And yes, almost all jobs turns into 5 hour jobs.
Think it's time to aim the torch at the u-bolts and call your favorite junkyard for a replacement rear axle! But, then again, I'm always looking for the easiest way out of a mess! Can't wait for part 2 !!!
Been in the business for a almost 3 decades and have never seen that. Well played man. I have to admit I would have just installed a lkq rear end so going to that length is very impressive. You would kick some butt where I work.
What is an lkq rear end?
@@TonicofSonic salvage yard.. used parts... second hand... Ya know the drill...
@@granitecowboy2199 ah thanks much.
Been watching for years but this video made me just join his patreon. 👍
@@patrickfranklin3548 Hell ya man. This guy is amazing, I have considered driving from MN to NY for repairs. No joke.
“unless you speak Greek, then you’re like, that’s not Greek”. 😂
Your experience and tenacity is what won this battle!!
I took 2 months until I found time to watch this. Glad I did. The torch work is impressive, and knowing about "air gap", or the lack thereof, is the lesson here for me. Thanks Eric O.
When you see part one you know it’s a good one 😵💫
The guys that know, know. The guys that don’t, wish they did. Legend.
Absolutely, one of those jobs that can be done with some basic tools in the driveway. Favorite type of fixes of this channel is the electrical ones with the wire tracing and the ones with the torch and big hammers.
Me too
Laughed so hard at the end. "All you gotta do is gently tap your bearing out." After an hours of heating, torching, cutting, beating, smacking, cussing.
Thanks for sharing the epic battle with us Mr. O! Persistence wins the day. Great work sir!!
Awesome video! " Oh yeah, first try", LMAO😅😅
I love it! No matter how long we’ve been in this business there’s always that “ never seen that happened before” Kudos to you Mr O I like the way you get after it.
@35:30 “At this point, we’re past this point.” Brother, I feel for you. Sometimes you just have to get out the torch, I get this sense of shame when it comes to this point, like I can’t do it without the torch, but it’s better to get over that and get it done. I really enjoy your videos and your diagnostic skills are impressive.
When working on these problems, I chant its not a heater core,not a heater core😅.
1 thing I have learned for stuck parts,is weld the race.
Learned on here,and applied twice.
Your patience and lack of swearing is admirable!
Man!! Mr. O that was brutal!! “Easy DIY in your driveway”😂🤣🤣.
26:05 Now I see why this is a long 2 parter. Amazed that's the only bearing to die in that rear end!
It's a pretty common issue when run low on oil. The rollers get pitted & jam up slightly. Letting the pinoin gear to spin inside the bearing race. They fuse very rapidly. Once you hear that pinoin bearing noise you now it's going to be a big job.
I see as you hammer the rust is raining down from that truck
@@larrycorey9596 It's NY red rain. 😂
4hr job...
When Eric bumped his head on the axle…. I felt that…. 😢
It’s what I thought might happen when he said he was going to leave the axles poking out of the housing rather then pulling them all the way out.
ooh yesss, is this one of those epic battles where we see metal, fire, loud sounds and loud words?!!
20:00-Some people think it's a waste of time but on the tight diffs like Chrysler's I use a spreader going back together so as not to have to force anything because those shims will crack when forcing. I know a guy that happened to once. 😂😂
@ 23:08 "Go borrow a friends screwdriver" made me laugh. I remember borrowing my father's tools to work on my go-kart when I was a kid. My father was pissed when he would find his tools in the yard when he hit them with the lawn mower. The good old days when I didn't know better.
This was a good one. Real world crap. I kind of thought a torch would be needed but, you have to be real good with the torch. Too bad there wasn’t a way to show the molting metal. Great camera angles. Thank you so much Eric. I wonder how the inner bearing of that pinion is going to be to come off.
Now that is dedication! It is worth noting you could have just called the customer and said we need to replace everything. That is an honest mechanic.
Reminds me of the time I could not remove a manual transmission because the pilot bearing seized on the input shaft !
"It's an easy job, you can do it in your driveway." LOL I woke up everyone in the house laughing at that!
Great freaking job, Eric! That bearing really was from hell, and by hell it was driven out :-)
Nothing like that feeling when it finally all comes out in kibbles n bits
I thank god that guys like you are out here helping people with their cars.
These things are a nightmare to work on, but it has to be done 💯.
Keep it going 🏆🏆
Great video Eric - and a tough problem. I have been expecting you to get Big Nasty on the end of that pinion shaft….
Great video Eric: I loved the little caveat at the start: if you don't like the way I do it -then go watch something else!! Whilst I'm glad I'm off the tools in many ways - I do occasionally miss this sort of challenge...maybe I'm just a touch weird, I don't know.
I laughed so hard when Eric said it was a job you can DIY on your driveway !!!!.
Eric, your misery and struggles are not my entertainment. However, I almost always learn from your videos. I thought you'd just blow the guts out of the bearing rather than going after the race. But you did a master class with that torch my dude. Can't wait for Part 2.
They ain’t all easy peasy. We all hit these seemingly impossible jobs. The difference is how we go about overcoming the obstacles. Eric, you are a real pro. Sometimes I walk away and it always comes to me after I calm down. Usually about 3:00 am in the morning.
WOW!You sure rode the struggle bus on that one! Gonna go check my diff oil level!
45 years on the wrenches as a heavy equipment mechanic. Have had to get creative with a torch more times then I want to remember. Most turned out good but there was that one time...
Nice save Eric.
I retired a few years ago, the old body was just complaining way too much.
Watching other guys on youtube is about as technical as I get now.
We all feel your pain brother : )
Back to basics man.... Best ever.
I love the videos and appreciate your skills. Every time I pretend to be a mechanic, I struggle on the small stuff. Part of me is happy to see you struggle for once. :)
Miss the old the intro the good old hey their viewers welcome back to SMA channel.
Oh praise be! My rear ends been howling and it's upsetting the neighbors. I've been concerned about pulling my rear end out in the driveway and have been putting it off. Seriously though, Dad's old '07 needs this done so I'm grateful you recorded this job for us!
Yell your neighbors to.mind their own fkn business
I laughed out loud when I heard, “you fat pig”! LOL! I’ve yelled that in my driveway so many times working on my Jeeps. Haha! Great job you’re still living good, you got that out.
Very impressive persistence! I've learned a lot watching you deal with PITA problems such as this. The fixes you figure out give me the confidence to just dive in and fix whatever's left over. I've restored a number of muscle cars, especially midyears and now I've been sucked into the other-world of older English cars and mid-60s BMW motorcycles. You have helped me quite a bit! I have also learned to accumulate the most vital tools YOU use such as a complete collection of hammers and torches. I now know that wrenches and sockets are not really necessary. Excellent!
Thanks for sharing the "journey" that is what makes your channel the best.
AWESOME, We had Danger Destruction Fire Sparks Melting Metal & Loud Hammering & Eric remaining calm and patient throughout, well done mate what a rotten job. Will look forward to Part 2 mate but very glad you got that done.
Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘💖💖💖💖
With no safety glasses!
Laughed out loud when you left the axles in and took caps out, cause not 6 months ago I did the same exact thing and spent 20 minutes trying to work the carrier out and thought I was the dumbest person in the world, glad to see it happens to everyone
Badass job Eric! You're a lot better at your craft than you give yourself credit for!
I have a Vic, but no skills, certainly none like Eric O! A master class!
I've usually had success with repeatedly heating & quenching with PB Blaster or Panther Pee. Lots of time, sweat sometimes blood and always a lot of swearing. As always, great video and sound effects. I always like the Brake Clean appearance!
i use "free all" much better that PB blaster. i have removed parts from under a rust belt car that were impossible to remove. i spray the free all, then tap tap tap on the seized hardware. repeat until it busts loose.
@@makeitpay8241 I've worked on everything between Florida humidity and salt air to Aspen, CO salted roads. I know the "Rust Belt" situation all too well.
Heatn' and beatn' with Eric O. As usual, the Master prevails!
Full tang scraper is the word combo you're looking for! Nice work as always Eric.
PryDriver.....I thought it was a ScrewChisel.....great video thanks!
Eric, as a German, I can tell you the proper pronunciation is Ka-Knee-Pex. I'm considering a TOPTUL order so if you need anything give me a call. Denny.
You're a better man than me, my language by that second head bump would've offended a veteran trucker.
Great video, your patience and skill always gets the job done!
Always click yes for you Mr. Eric!
Best guy ever! Excellent mechanic!
I got to be honest, I’ve watched your videos for years now, and it kind of makes me happy to see a pro like you struggle a bit. I like to work on my own broken stuff and I think I have some skills, but I end up struggling on just about everything. This video was like watching a pro golfer rip a drive 150 yards into the woods.
Well done. That's the closest I've seen Eric come to swearing. 😅
You know it's going to be good when the flames of glory arrive on the scene.
I've pulled alot of shaft bearings. The shop has a $12,000 pneumatic over hydraulic Enerpac that was custom to pull 10-12" dia bearings. When that unit maxed out, it was straight to tourch or air arch gouging. Get the face off and rollers out and chisel the inner race until cracked... or air arch those off too and weld up shaft if damaged.
When people ask, why do you need extra time? You quoted me 2 hours. Don't you know what you're doing? ... just sit them down to watch this nonsense ! Well done Eric, that was one hell of a battle
"But Oz never did nothing to the Tin Man" - America 70's
"Cuz' Oz never did give nothin' to the tin man, that he didn't...didn't already have." "Ventura Highway" 1976
“Oww son of a mother that was my head”! You got a hell of a head man hopefully that axle was ok
Had one like that ,heated with torch sprayed with rust buster and oil finally oil wicked between pinion and bearing after many heat and cool down cycles, used air hammer with drift directly on pinion finally broke loose. Murphy always working. Well done.
Brooksy and Vic, 2 of my favorite tools in Dr. O's shop! Mine too, I LOVE my Brooks hammers and punches and my "smoke wrench"! A few of the best tool investments I've ever made!
FLASHBACK to my driveway after loosing my ds rear axle.. it was like a 1920's cartoon...
thank you FORD!
My driveway fix was amazin' just needed to slightly notch my king to get it in.
*Eric: this will be an easy job* Pinion bearing: NOT TODAY FELLA!
Papa torch is proud, Me-maw is proud, even Rosy the riveter is proud of you!
Your approach never ceases to amaze Me Eric,never take a pea shooter to a gun fight,bring the mother loving cannon.🤣
Call Scotty, he has a big fancy scan tool for that 😂
And you wanted to be a mechanic 😂😂😂
That one definitely tested you 👍👍👍
I love watching these videos. Im fairly new in the trade at only around 4 years, but I have worked at the dealership my whole life. Such a calm atmosphere in the videos, no advisor breathing down your neck, no customer thinking you can do a 7 hour job in an hour and a half. Not to say that there aren't time sensitive jobs, because im sure there are. Watching these are almost comforting, when all I feel at work is stressed and rushed. I just wish I could do my job at my own pace and actually enjoy it, and not get shafted by crap labor rates.