Questions, Coffee & Cars #96 // Best age to buy a used car?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- This is a Motormouth couple car video answering your questions from Instagram, like: Do car companies use focus groups? Difference between wishbone and multi-link suspension? Why are some screen so small? Most cost effective time to buy used? Do panoramic roofs leak? Mazda CX-70 or Toyota Crown Signia? Lincoln self driving VS Tesla? Compact value SUV? Thoughts on Chevy Blazer?
Andrea Instagram / motormouth_andrea
Zack Instagram / motormouth_auto
0:00 Intro
0:30 Do car companies use focus groups?
3:07 Difference between wishbone and multi-link suspension?
4:51 Why are some screen so small?
6:07 Most cost effective time to buy used?
8:33 Do panoramic roofs leak?
10:22 Mazda CX-70 or Toyota Crown Signia?
13:50 Lincoln self driving VS Tesla?
16:25 Compact value SUV?
18:41 Thoughts on Chevy Blazer? 
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Great job guys! Glad to see some time allocated to a question on purchasing a used vehicle. I am sure that many of your viewers/subscribers would be interested and appreciate more content around the used vehicle industry.
It’s doubtful anyone ever told them they don’t want spare tires or turn signal stalks and that they want awkward hideaway door handles.
Sometimes they just do what they want for style and cost cutting purposes.
Its redundant to say but you two are simply fantastic and you know your stuff! I love that Andrea does not capitulate to what Zack says and Zack respects when there's a differing opinion....which is like life! Keep up the good work!
Another great video. I like the advice for buying used since that's more my style.
"9" is better than 7", Andrea"... Great line, love your stuff! 😁😁
Family friendly! 🙄
@@housepianist It's a couple car review bro, not sure if the target audience is a bunch of kids
@@housepianistthere always has to be one
@@calebwany8422 i understand that. doesn’t mean that younger people don’t watch it.
I was thinking that but can't believe Zack went there.
Thanks for your videos! Regarding the CX-90 that you discussed, I just bought the base 2024model to replace my 2020 CR-V. It was close in price to the mid-trim 2024 CR-V. I like that the CX-90 is bigger and classier looking….and the base model CX-90 in the US is close in price to the EX-L Honda. They both have similar features but the Mazda is bigger (and better in my opinion). The CR-V’s are everywhere so I like having a car that’s not as common. I also got a great deal with 1.9% financing.
also at 2:28! Glad to Know that BENCH SEATING is A MUST! captain chairs are overrated imo! BENCH SEATING is BEST and Glad FORD did that with the EXPLORER!
Love your videos! My go to every week :) So informative and you guys rock!
Thanks again Andrea and Zack!
I laughed when said “Keeping for 3 to 4 years or until wheels fell off”. Just to let you know my previous vehicle was 2010 Tucson is so good and I had it for 14 years and funny when I picked my new 2024 Tucson, the dealership ask how long are you planning to keep. My only answer was I have no idea.
Self driving is great but each companies set up different self driving program but not fully autonomous, my is a driver assistance driving. Great show Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
I was thinking of getting used car but when the cheapest interest rate for a used vehicle is 7%. I got 0.9% on a new vehicle and like you guys said, I got a really good trade in. So I went for new.
I always learn from you two !! Great posting as always. Look forward to each new one. Entertaining too !!!
Love watching you guys. I haven't missed a QCAC yet and I watch almost all your reviews...except maybe the ones that are waaay out of my price range... 💸. I always enjoy your content. Keep up the excellent work.
Great job as always!
When are you going to let Andrea sit in the driver's seat for these anyway? ;-)
Another great video😊
Thank You again Andrea and Zack good video ( Ty Ron
Skip the screen. Give me knobs and buttons.
Thats why i loved how my Acura MDX handled , but i now need a hybrid. Im now interested in the Crown Signia, yes i know can't compare to mdx. Thank u Andrea for mentioning the transmission comparison btwn signia and cx-70
Subaru Forester base for around $30,000.
GM products have no long jevity! Service sucks
Episode 100: Andrea wears a sombrero! Let’s make it happen! 😅😅😅
I'm such a fan of this segment and your reviews overall. My #1 place for car reviews. You guys do such a great job. I'm just curious and the question I have, once you guys reach your 100th episode will you stop saying why you started this particular segment? After so many episodes I'm just curious why Zack still explains why you started this segment, by always having to say "... we spun it off...". I would think by now that wouldn't need to be said. Maybe because I never miss an episode it sounds so familiar to me and goes without saying, but every time I hear it, I'm like this has to have a shelf life. LOL! Anyway, keep up the awesome job.
“9 inches is better than 7 right Andrea” 😂😂😂😂😂 We are talking about the screen, right?
Am I the only one who finds the innuendos absolutely hilarious 😂 from Zach
@@LordDelCasaFor those over 30 yes
As long as it is not a "skinny 9" !
buying at 3-4 years old and selling at 7-8 years old isn't so much getting 'equity' out of the car. it's a depreciating asset, so we're not talking equity per se, but we are talking about cars hitting about 80k miles and needing some TLC. Depending on the complexity of the car, it might make sense to sell it on, but if it's a Lexus, perhaps not.
And how well previous owner maintained their car
We have an Avalon, 2011 with 75k miles. Bought it used in 2014. Runs like a dream.
Love your work! We have sunroofs on our RDX and CX5, seldom open them. That cargo box on the roof of a car can cost you an extra 5 + mpg on your fuel efficiency...
Double wishbone is one type of multilink. Multilink is anything ≥ 3 links. The more links, the more adjustable the suspension is, and more experience/knowledge required to tune it. A greatly tuned mcphearson (bmw, porsche) can beat a mediocre double wishbone. Therefore if you are not modding your suspension, go test drive the car, don't take paper specs as everything
I am sorry but you could not be more wrong. Double wishbone front suspension experiences very little camber change under suspension travel compared to a MacPherson strut design. This is known as "bump steer". For this reason, all performance vehicles (and especially race cars) tend to use a double wishbone front suspension. Sure, you can tune a MacPherson strut system to handle well, but at the high end of the performance envelope, double wishbone will be far more tunable, and therefore more desirable. Strength and rigidity are the next big concerns. With MacPherson strut, you only have a lower control arm, so the strut tower bearing (yes, its a bearing because it has to pivot with the steering knuckle) carries the lateral load on the top of the steering knuckle, this greatly reduces the strength of the design let alone to rigidity, which is key to performance vehicles. With double wishbone, the strut (or even if it's a separate spring and shock absorber), the 2 control arms (and their bushings to be more precise) carry all lateral and torsional loads allowing the strut to just deal with vertical wheel control (compression and rebound).
@@drock6627 You either didn't read my comment in full or need to get eyes checked. I said a better tuned macphearson is better than a mediocre double wishbone. I didn't say a double wishbone is better than a mcphearson. Also double wishbone increases dynamic camber during hard cornering, which is what makes it superior. Lots of performance cars use macphearson due to packaging reasons, and last gen porsche gt cars still beat so many double wishbone cars.
A few observations, on the Korean models, the theta engines are still self destructing, the GM 1.4 the turbos are failing and often out of stock
I have a 2016 escape, well equipped that AI bought in 2019 with 36,000 KM, a lease trade in, 1.6 Turbo.
Love it, a great ride all in all and I would buy it again in a heart beat.
I have a 2024 Equinox LT (middle model) and like it a lot.
Hi Zack and Andrea,
I watch you guys every week and really enjoy the segment. I wanted to provide some polite and constructive feedback. You come off un-informed when it comes to Tesla FSD tech. If you don’t have access to a Tesla car with latest tech, because Tesla doesn’t provide you or any journalist in Canada with one, please decline to comment. Unfortunately, when you share rumours circulated on internet such as lidar stuff without actual hands on experience it reduces credibility of your comments. Just my 2cents. I am a Tesla Model 3 driver and I do have the latest FSD tech in my car. In the last 2months there was a huge improvement in performance and to not mention it makes you come off as un-informed. All the best to you guys, look forward to next show!
I definitely like 9 inches more than 7 inches! You two are so funny.
13:22 “ those Volvo guys…” 😂
Could you do a segment on the safest and best way to sell a car? Either on Q,C&C’s or on the regular segments. A daunting prospect in the auto-theft capital of Canada!
Zach!! LIDAR is NOT a type of Radar. LIDAR uses laser light so it has some of the visibility limitations of cameras. Radar uses radio waves, sending out pulses of high-frequency electromagnetic waves that are reflected off the object back to the source. Radar can "see through" fog, snow or rain. LIDAR works better than cameras at night.
The best systems use combinations of all 3 for redundancy and better sensing than human eyes.
Well we now have a idea why Andrea is always happy!
Their humor is sometimes risqué and so point on for those who get it!
We bought our 2016 PriusV 2 years ago with 32K on the odometer. I can still sell it for close to what I paid for it but I just filled the tank for $50 after going 700 kM's and it isn't going anywhere anytime soon either!. We listened to you both and put our money in the "Bank of Toyota".
cleaning drain tubes is the best tidbit
No sun roofs for me and these drain holes under battery's and brake boosters are never mentioned for cleaning as the sun roof drains are. The y really take care of the consumer these Auto builders!
Just noticed in the pics of the CX70 that Mazda didn't even take out the storage and cupholders for the 3rd row of the CX90. Now, that is truly cheap on production. CX70 should have just been an option on the 90 if they are going to cheap out that much.
Re. the first question: I just can't believe any research whatsoever was done to find out how most consumers feel about piano black. That has the be the most ridiculous design choice ever.
The problem with the sub compacts are that most are NOT hybrids and gas mileage isn’t good. I think their sizes are perfect, especially for around town.
Kona
Taos
HR-V
Crosstrek
CX-5
I really enjoy listening to you review the EV’s. Have you test drove the Kia E6 GT? Thanks!
Fun fact: when Honda went to strut fronts from double wishbones, one of the things they cited was actually reducing cabin noise. I miss the feel of double wishbone front Hondas from the 90s, they kind of a had a more gradual roll-off as grip if you powered through a corner. But realistically, engineering overkill on a commuter car.
I have bought three Toyotas off lease. Still have powertrain warranty when purchased. The biggest drop in value has already happened. A 99 Tacoma, 11 Tacoma, and a 15 Sienna. Still have the 15 Sienna and the 11 Tacoma TRD Off Road double cab
Another great episode guys. Totally agree on the sunroof, Zack. We don't like it and we still have to get/live with it :D. Great touchpoint on used cars and their equity. Used car market is massive, probably bigger than new cars (more viewers too). Here is my request/suggestion why not cover 2-3-4 yr old cars that you think are great value, also cover important pros & cons for them. I shall leave it to you guys to decide since you know your business better than any of us. I am keen to find out how old a BMW X3, Volvo XC60 or Audi Q5 is a good value, 3-4 yrs old makes me uncomfortable unless I am wrong . Should you get a relatively newer model or a CPO for 3-4 year old car. Would request for a detailed viewpoint on this in one of your videos. I would want to avoid the headache of seeing any surprises in terms of repair. This is probably not where I will get the best answer. I will try to post on your Sunday posts. I just hate getting up early on a Sunday :P
That's what she said 🤣 I searched and I don't see that you guys have ever done a review of a Lexus ES350 If you can would love to hear your review of it. Thanks
Same i searched it up but didnt find it.
Sunroofs can lose 1-3” of headroom. So if you’re tall or camp in your car consider that point. We also live in the Pacnw, and both our cars have solid metal roofs (Subaru Outback and Nissan Leaf). The only time I partially opened my last cars sunroof was when parked in the sun to vent the hot air.
Mechanics have told me absolutely do not buy a Ford Escape or Edge ever ... Just the alternator is a $1k repair because of where it is ... I had fell in love with am Escape and my friends have lived theirs
7:33 “ . . . it’s been a good vehicle, I’d just keep it.” Bingo. In ‘97 I bought a ‘95 Dakota, in ‘98 a new V70, both stick. With a combined 530,000 miles on both of them, they’re both still here and ready to go wherever I need to go. That Volvo is as comfortable as an old pair of shoes.
There was once a used car lot in Baltimore called USED CAR HEAVEN (where only good cars go). But the payments went on for eternity.
regarding self driving cars - waymo is a driverless taxi service that operates in Tempe Az and surrounding areas. I believe they also operate in San Francisco area. It is fascinating seeing this car operate driverless around the Phoenix area.
screens dont much to me ease of use give me real buttons
Happy wife happy life❤😂
Good topic. I have a 2019 Porsche Cayenne purchased used last year with 40k miles.Certified Pre-owned warranty (for 2 additional years). How long will I keep it? Probably 3 years. It will have about 60k miles on it then. Warranty extension costs are significant. Repairs can be very expensive of course on a Porsche of any kind.
No one can argue that 9 inches isn't better than 7 inches. Now mine is 15.5 Inches and that's a little too big. It really stands out and it grabs a lot of attention from my passengers.
Won’t touch a reply to this comment with a 10 foot pole. I bet your passengers notice!
New car features are driving up prices fer sure, but out of curiosity I looked up what our 2019 HRV Sport would cost today (bought in Aug 2018). We paid roughly $28k US then and today that’s worth $34,840! Post-COVID inflation has been brutal!
I prefer to keep a car long term. Its a lower total cost issue for me.
Also, when we visited Taos, NM years ago the locals said the name is pronounced like "house" an in Touse. Just one syllable.
I hate screens wait til it breaks after 3yr warranty is up way to much high tech in cars I like buttons and dials
TESLA is also being sued for false advertising about FSD. They have been charging for that feature for many years and keep saying it's around the corner for as long which has not yet happened
My Wife never really complained about my past BMW E38’s pretty and reasonably useful 6-1/2” screen, she liked how I used it. But ever since she got her 2012 VW Jetta with it’s 7” screen (the Fender one!)…. she says she’ll never go back. But I think she’s getting greedy when she ‘now’ says… she really fantasies about getting something like a 2015 Lexus RX350 with a whopping 9.8” screen. Will this madness ever stop! So question… should I get a new Lexus or a new Wife? … or a marriage counselling? Thanks for the video.
Good point about engine power. We have an Outback 2022 with the standard engine. We drive on two lane roads and don’t have a passing problem. I like the improved fuel economy over our 2017 turbo Forester. I like to watch excellent reviewers like you two, then I make my own decision after a test drive. I appreciate your viewpoint and it’s very helpful even if I go a different way.
0:31 no. If they do I doubt nobody has brought up the fake exhausts. They need to stop with that. I’m sure many Tiguan owners would love to see a trim level that offers more power.
Hahahaha. Zack put Andrea at a loss for words. That’s rare, 😂
So the wife wanted a panoramic sun roof and the Model Y. Guess what I got? Not a Miata... that's for sure.
6:07 Zac went real quiet there 😅
Thule will suck a little fuel economy only when you use it vs. having a larger vehicle which sucks more fuel All The Time even though you don't need the extra space.
I was 40 years old when I bouught a used Lexus and that has been a great vehicle. So my vote is 40.
The big difference between Tesla and everyone else is that only Telsa can used off limited access highways and on city streets. Many hands free systems are geo fenced to pre-mapped roads only (GM, Ford, Nissan), MB doesn't appear to be geo fenced.
Perhaps Tesla will eventually added lidar but doesn't matter now - they are already training their automation modelling in much more complex conditions - this is where Tesla continues to be way ahead of the the legacy automakers, not sure about Chinese based companies. This is something that reviewers should take the time to understand since it comes up so much.
Not true, Volvo Pilot Assist works OK on secondary roads but best on limited access hwys.
@@billurban1581 The Volvo isn't designed for city traffic with lights, stops signs, etc.. It's lane keep & cruise control - yea my Ford Edge will do the same and not very useful in practice on side roads
@@novaguy9767 I stand corrected regarding stop signs, red lights, I never drove a Tesla or studied their system.
Tesla used to have lidar. They stopped installing it saying it was too complicated. I believe they also disabled lidar in their earlier models.
In our family, we ice engines and a Tesla model 3 my wife drives. I have no interest in self driving, and really dont understand why anyone would want it. If you dont want drive the car take an Uber or taxi.
Andrea ❤❤❤❤❤
When you guys come to NL. Notice how much more our vehicles rust compared to an 10yrs old vehicle from BC.
No mention of the CX-50?? You can shop around and get one for around 30.5k OUT THE DOOR. Seems like a good value the base model select offers a lot of features. I see CRV's here starting at 29999 before taxes here. I think Mazda or Honda will give you better service and resale than Ford or Chevy based on historical data.
Mazda 3 went from an independent rear suspension to a solid axle rear suspension. This is a step backward for a car company having desires to be more upscale.
Have you reviewed the Silverado EV ? Videos show it gets great range but I wonder if it has “gm” issues ?
For the person looking at Mazda CX-70 or Toyota Crown Signia, perhaps another couple of options could be Toyota Highlander (or Grand Highlander) or maybe the new Chevy Traverse. Always a good idea to check out a few options, they might be pleasantly surprised.
The GH is on a stop sale, being recalled for air bags.
@@magnoliap5824 fair enough. Like Andrea and Zack have said though, the Traverse is impressive. If you need space, that's a tough one to beat.
@@jeffer1101 but it's a gm product
@@calebwany8422 so, it appears to be a good one.
9” better than seven right Andrea? Lol. The Tiguan should have a 300hp r trim.
I adore you guys and I have watched every single episode you have put out. But Zack, there is nothing even close to what Tesla has for Self driving. I am not sure if you have recently tried this, I own a model Y and even though it has its short comings and I agree, I dont see how camera's can achieve the ultimate self driving experience but again Tesla is way ahead. Just my two cents. Keep up the good work.
Find 10 year old Lexus' worth 35-40% of their original cost and drive it to the floor. Picked up a 2012 RX350 for $25k with 50k on the odo last week. Clean as hell. Original cost was $65k in 2012.
Question: I'm seeing alot of used cars with temporary plates. Does that mean the price has gone down on used vehicles?
Pwfhaps or more people can't afford new cars and forced to buy used now.
1st one to like today.
Buy a used well maintained Land Cruiser - it’ll last forever 😎 love my German SUVs but the Land Cruiser is amazing. Old, new, and even really old!
Couldn’t agree more! Some just slam gm . I don’t get it. All makes have lemons, flips, recalls. Some rust mire then others, some have engine or tranny issues. Blah blah, get what you like! They all depreciate and it’s no where like it used to be where certain brands held on strong for resale.
My 22 year old Thunderbird has my butt groove in it and isn't going anywhere anytime soon................................and it's paid for. I put 50% down and 50% on delivery with no payments.
Why don’t you ever talk about the Korean made Trailblazer. It’s a fantastic vehicle with go kart handling
I’d take an 84 Buick Regal Grand National over an Equinox any day!! 😊
You want handling C1-C8 Corvette
I have bought many cars of different brands and no one ever asked me to be part of a focus group. I think it is bogus.
They're probably looking to life long dedicated customers.
@@owenmcdonald5922that makes sense. They won’t focus on fly-by-night owners of past multiple brands who would most likely not give any meaningful feedback.
I was 17 years old when I bought my first used car. LOL
Give me Captains Chairs all day.
Why are you guys wearing long sleeve jackets all the time? I mean is it that cold where you’re at? Holy cow it’s like 90 down here in good old Florida!😂
Zack, happy wife , happy life.😂
Is Ford abandoning the Escape in near future, like they are doing with the Edge?
Nice video. FYI Zack messed up the explanation of volume. He called it square footage when it's cubic footage.
My bad
Buy older and hold, i bought a chevelle for $900 drove it 100,000m then sold it for $800 5 years later.
The Crown Signia is delayed and only around 20k are being made, so good luck with that. 😂
Most people who want big cargo space end up driving around a lot of steel containing air. Plain stupid
Sedans are typically 12 to 15% better on mpg and emissions than a SUV with the same drivetrain - less weight, better aerodynamics.
Or they need and use the cargo space
How did we ever survive before SUVs? I agree most people don't need the cargo space or they only need 1 SUV in the family but they have two. The problem is, the manufacturers are not making enough sedan models. They want to sell more SUVs because they make more money on them. It's the opposite in Europe. Sedans galore and most can be had with a manual. We're dumb in north america
how is owning a used CAYENEE! my dream is PORSCHE SUV but do not like the NEW MSRP prices lol! love the reviews! and love the comfort seats on the CAYENEE
Just bought a 21CPO Cayenne. Love it. I have three years of warranty and 25% less than sticker. Only 5600 miles!!!
@@scottthompson5855 how much did ya pay out the door :)
ZZ top's.
Long time viewer, are you guys going to keep on saying counting each episode ? 96,97, etc 100/200/300 etc?
We are, we like it!
Will we even see the Sigma in 2024?